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Arthur C. Clarke Reports From Sri Lanka 704

Jeff Patterson writes "Sir Arthur C. Clarke has filed a damage report from his home in Sri Lanka on the Clarke Foundation page. He is fine, however 'among those affected are my staff based at our diving station in Hikkaduwa and holiday bungalow in Kahawa -- both beachfront properties located in areas worst hit. We still don't know the full extent of damage as both roads and phones have been damaged. Early reports indicate that we have lost most of our diving equipment and boats. Not all our staff members are accounted for -- yet.'"
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  • Or maybe.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by KinkifyTheNation ( 823618 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @05:46AM (#11198089) Journal
    "Arthur C. Clarke Reports From Sri Lanka, Says It's Pretty Wet"
  • by Gopal.V ( 532678 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @05:47AM (#11198093) Homepage Journal
    Diving stuff and boats were the major disaster area.. I think Sri Lanka is a bit more exposed than Kerala was.

    The wave in kerala went nearly 4 kms inland (though it's through the backwaters) and I'm still having painful memories of seeing a white mercedes floating around in the basement of a building ...

    The Marine Drive is around 6-7 feet above sea level and is the major business/market area in Cochin - thankfully we're on the right side of India to be compared to the earthquake.

    Thanks to a timely news on radio and TV , only a few hundreds were caught unawares ... East coast was not so lucky.
    • by EvilTwinSkippy ( 112490 ) <> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @10:20AM (#11198969) Homepage Journal
      Not that this in any way compares to the devastation you are seeing, but I've seen flash floods in person. My uncle used to live next to a creek that had a habit of overflowing it's banks. I still vividly remember towing pizza and a generator in a Canoe past submerged cars and trucks, and thinking to myself, "inanimate object in boat, people wading next to boat, something is seriously wrong with this picture."

      Come on slashdotters, what are your good flood stories?

      • by Naikrovek ( 667 ) <jjohnson.psg@com> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @10:53AM (#11199136)
        well in my homedown, the house i grew up in was in a depression. rain kinda puddled around my house. my dad did an EXCELLENT job of waterproofing the walls and stuff so that wasn't a problem.

        The City of Abingdon, Illinois, doesn't like rainwater in their sewers, so they pump it out - and right into customer's homes. since my house was the lowest in town, all the rainwater from the sewers (and sewage that was carried with it) went into my basement. the entire town's turds and femine hygene products wound up in our basement after every heavy rain. The city would not stop pumping, even after legal action was taken. Apparently a city can do whatever it wants to protect city assets. Such is the case in Abingdon, Illinois, anyway.

        My father took an old tire inner-tube, cut it from an "O" shape into a "C" shape, rubber cemented and wirewrapped the ends, waterproofing and airproofing them. then, we waited for a rain. when it began to rain hard, we shoved this tube down into the main house drain. in the basement, where the drainpipes left the house, there was a drain grate - we took the grate off, shoved the innertube down into the pipe that led outside, and inflated it. no more of my city's sewage found its way into our house! Yahoo! no more weekends spent hosing toilet paper off our basement walls... But the story does not end here.

        When we blocked our sewer, we just diverted the problem. someone else had to deal with it now. then that person figured it out, and the next had a problem. eventually everyone connected to that pump blocked their sewage drains somehow, and the next time it rained, the city's pump kicked in, but that sewage had nowhere to go. The pipe outside our house (which later we learned had been cracked by a nearby tree root) failed, and our front yard erupted with the same familiar sewage. Since the pipe was between our house and the street the city declared the problem to be ours, and went on their merry way. our sewage made it out through that pipe okay, but when it rained, and with the route into every other house blocked, the sewage piled up in our front yard several times a month.

        Legal action proved fruitless. My father started attending city council meetings and raising a "stink" about the problem. The city asked him to stop attending city council meetings. He did not comply. He would pull cops over (!) and ask them when the pipe would be patched. He would knock on the mayor's door and ask about the pipe at least once a week. He would bring the issue up with his dentist (also the mayor). He basically performed a very gentle and 100% polite campaign to annoy the decision makers into doing the right thing. None of that worked. This went on for 10 years.

        I don't know the rest of the story, but from what I've heard he got a little help from some organization who had a lot of members in the city council. Next day the pipe was dug up, replaced, dirt put back on and new grass planted. My guess is that the Freemasons helped him but I don't know.

        A year later, after all that work, my father died.

        That's my flood story.
  • This is Good News (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Mycroft_VIII ( 572950 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @05:48AM (#11198096) Journal
    Glad to here he's alright. Although someone who had said he was a neighbor (in another /. article on the tsunami) said Clarke's house was to far inland to be affected there was still a chance he had been spending the day at the beach or some such.
    I'd really hate to see one of Great Authors taken by this disaster, not to diminish the loss of life that did occure.

  • by konmem ( 628046 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @05:49AM (#11198101)
    Curses! Foiled again!!!
  • by elpapacito ( 119485 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @05:54AM (#11198112)
    Curiously enough, in my first book on Sri Lanka, I had written about another tidal wave reaching the Galle harbour (see Chapter 8 in The Reefs of Taprobane, 1957). That happened in August 1883, following the eruption of Krakatoa in roughly the same part of the Indian Ocean.

    Maybe some people should have remembered Krakatoa cataclism or just simply should have seen Clarke book. Damn, some people should just read to help prevent disasters.

    I know it's dark humor, but what can I say ..the tide was predictable, nothing or very little was done. Ok not everybody could have been saved , but even one life was worth it, in my humble opinion.
  • by pamri ( 251945 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:04AM (#11198138) Homepage
    Wikipedia has two articles churning out information about things as they happen besides info about the disaster that have already happened and they contain plenty of links to other news sources. See, 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake [] and 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake in India []
  • fyi: bbc radio is reading angry messages from listeners directed at the noaa and the usgs

    the criticisms are that all you had to do was pick up the phone and call cnn: 3 hours before it hit indian coastline, something could have been done to save lives

    the indian ocean has no warning system like the pacific does in place, and no one knew the extent of the wave, and even if someone had acted like the world was ending, calling everyone in the world, the fact that nothing like this has ever happened before in the indian ocean in a few centuries would mean that the bureaucracy in india, sri lanka, etc., and the media, would have moved slowly... and even if the local authorities had somehow miraculously gotten megaphones on the beach in time, you can be certain people there would have just yawned them away...

    additionally, unlike in japan and the philippines, for example, the people in the indian ocean do not know to head for high ground if they feel an earthquake... this is simple education that would have saved thousands of lives

    but there is no experience with tsunamis on the south side of sumatra, for example, so for the people there, where a warning system would have made no difference, simply feeling the ground shake would be all the warning that was needed to get the heck to high ground asap

    so, given the anger and grief and role hindsight plays in how people judge how their reactions would have been different, and you can see a shit storm of blame and finger pointing coming: "americans don't care if we drown"

    just like the tsunami, here comes a massive wave of political shitstorms

    it is most important to remember that thousands died needlessly in this event had their been a system of warning buoys in place in the indian ocean like in the pacific, and the onus is on the governemnts in the indian ocean to have done that, but considering the fashionable anti-americanism in the world right now, you can easily see how this tragedy can be spun for political ends

    political tsunami warning system activated
    • by OverlordQ ( 264228 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:59AM (#11198283) Journal
      The countries that bore the brunt of the tsunami had no notice of what was coming but the earthquake, the largest for 40 years, had been monitored by the Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre in Honolulu.

      "We don't have contacts in our address book for anybody in that part of the world," National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration director Charles McCreery said.

      Story here []. Since that didn't work, they called the State Department, who ALSO [] tried to find out who to contact, but again, due to lack of adequate warning systems/organizations, they failed as well.
    • Good Grief (Score:5, Insightful)

      by The Tyro ( 247333 ) * on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @07:55AM (#11198429)
      All the recriminations now begin, even before the bodies are buried (or even counted). Bottom Line: This is an unprecedented natural disaster, and the same warning/response systems that existed in the pacific didn't really exist in that area of the world.

      This is something so far out of the realm of most peoples experience, that it's quite natural to assume some incredulity on their part. Do you pay attention to the wide-eyed guy on the street corner with the sign that says "The end is near?" I thought not... most people ignore him, just as you probably do.

      Just to add to the political fray, some reports have UN officials already complaining [] that the US and other western nations are being "stingy" with their aid packages... and even suggesting that those countries raise taxes on their citizens to pay for more aid (if you believe the Wash. Times).

      Maybe some of these folks should focus more on helping, rather than wasting their breath trying to find a scapegoat.
      • Re:Good Grief (Score:3, Informative)

        by teg ( 97890 )

        Just to add to the political fray, some reports have UN officials already complaining that the US and other western nations are being "stingy" with their aid packages... and even suggesting that those countries raise taxes on their citizens to pay for more aid (if you believe the Wash. Times).

        That particular official is from Norway. Norway, with less than 1/60th of the US population, has already donated 50 million NOK (a bit more than 8 million US dollars), mostly through NGOs. The US has donated 15

        • Re:Good Grief (Score:4, Informative)

          by Martin Blank ( 154261 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @11:57AM (#11199595) Homepage Journal
          The US is also moving naval assets in the region -- which often have helicopters -- into place to assist with operations, and is deploying P-3 Orion reconnaissance aircraft to take pictures of the coastlines to assist in planning recovery operations.

          I expect US donations from private citizens and aid groups are ramping up fairly quickly.
        • Re:Good Grief (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Hallow ( 2706 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @11:59AM (#11199618) Homepage
          That's 15 million to the UN for aid, and that's for "starters". Forget that we contribute over 20% of the UN's budget, and in the past few years have actually paid in the billions.

          With the oil for food fiasco, the UN is not the logical place to put all the money for this, unless you want it horribly mismanaged.

          Personally, I think groups like the Red Cross/Red Crescent would be able to make better use of the funds.
          American []
          International/Red Crescent []
      • Re:Good Grief (Score:3, Insightful)

        It's unprecedented in recent times. The explosion of Krakatoa in 1883 killed about 36,000 people, but since then, the tsunamis have been pretty rare, with the most powerful one killing only a few hundred in India. The region really had no reason to concentrate on a tsunami warning system, because there were always more important (and less expensive) things to deal with.

        What this should remind everyone is that no one is immune to tsunamis. Even the eastern coasts of the Americas and the Caribbean Islands
    • by kalidasa ( 577403 ) * on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:07AM (#11198465) Journal

      What makes you think they didn't try? Even if GWB got on the phone and called the heads of government of all the countries likely to be affected, without an emergency response system, by the time the news filtered down to the people who could do something about it, it would have been too late.

      Anyone who blames the US for this is simply looking for excuses to blame the US for everything.

      • by HeghmoH ( 13204 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @09:27AM (#11198728) Homepage Journal
        Anyone who blames the US for this is simply looking for excuses to blame the US for everything.

        Events like this can make for good filters. If anybody actually seriously tries to put any blame on the US for any part of this disaster, you can safely ignore anything they say about almost anything.
    • by TheAcousticMotrbiker ( 313701 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @09:09AM (#11198669)
      Oddly enough, the Arthur C Clarke Foundation is actually working on just that. Setting up an alert system for Tsunamis:

      PROJECT WARN in Partnership with the Japan US Science Technology and Space Applications Program (JUSTSAP)

      The purpose of Project Warn is combine enhanced communications and IT systems to provide warning of impending natural or man-made disasters and to provide on-going communications and remote sensing and GIS support during disaster relief operations. The Clarke Foundation is working with the Pacific Disaster Center, the Asian Disaster Mitigation Organization, the United Nations, and the US and Japanese Governments as coordinated through the JUSTSAP organization to carry out a suitable test and demonstration in this area. In particular a simulation and test is being planned in the Pacific Region in 2005 to determine to how to use the latest information and sensing technology more effectively in the advent of that a major Tsunami might impact an Asian country or island. Clarke Foundation personnel are providing technical advice and support on a volunteer basis to this project.

    • With all the hand-wringing going on we have to ask this question: why hasn't the governments of Indonesia and New Guinea instituted a tsunami warning system that covers the entire Indonesia Archipelago and the Indian Ocean?

      People forget that the Indonesian Archipelago sits on one of the world's most geologically-active areas, the Indonesian Subduction Zone just south of the archipelago. As such, Indonesia is very prone to earthquakes and is home to some of the most powerful volcanic eruptions in recorded h
  • by Spy Handler ( 822350 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:25AM (#11198196) Homepage Journal

    Human death is always unfortunate, and tens of thousands dying is a major tragedy indeed. But there are so many people now, living on just about every habitable patch of ground on earth, that any kind of a natural disaster happening anywhere in the world kills massive numbers.

    The thing is, vast majority of humans today still live in impoverished, technologically backward societies. 6 billion is too many people for a primitve infrastructure to handle.

    Actually Earth can easily handle hundreds of billions, but we would need advanced technology like the Puppeteers. And not just advanced technology, but also advanced cultural and societal organization far ahead of what we have today... plus a fundamental change in how people think and behave. Now we can't just suddenly become a herbivorous herd society like the Puppeteers, but we can be nicer to others and try not to be such assholes.

    Solution to earthquakes, tsunamis and other natural disasters lie in advanced technolgy. Fleet of Worlds!

  • Terrible tragedy (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:27AM (#11198204)
    It's not only the death toll.

    This tragedy affects the life of millions of people.
    I was in Sri Lanka two weeks ago and I got to
    know a few inhabitants there, who are living from

    They now have to go back to fishing again (I'm not joking) until the tourists are coming back
    (hopefully next year).

  • Worry is not over (Score:5, Interesting)

    by tanveer1979 ( 530624 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:28AM (#11198205) Homepage Journal
    The death toll here in india is mounting with over 4000 dead in the far flung andaman and nicobar islands and 13000 still missing. An air force base with 100 officers, their families has vanished into the sea. Due to the earthquake the indian techtonic plate has sunk 30 meters deeper. Scientists say its the biggest displacement of the plate ever recorded and it may result in new volcanos forming in near future as well as similar or larger earthquakes.

    Moreover this region is not linked to the pacific ocean tsunami network. There are no bouys here. Now the Indian Govt is planning to place deep sea sensors as well as tsunami detection system. This data will be linked with pacific ocean tsunami network.

    • Re:Worry is not over (Score:3, Interesting)

      by pe1chl ( 90186 )
      >Moreover this region is not linked to the pacific ocean tsunami network. There are no bouys here.

      Why do you need a tsunami detection system when an earthquake detection system is already in place?
      What you would have needed is an alarm system, something that can be used to quickly alert people along the coast. A common contact number or e-mail address where a warning could be sent that all local radio stations will broadcast, for example.

      It was wellknown to all seismic centres around the world that th
  • by sanspeak ( 734959 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:33AM (#11198222) Homepage Journal
    Some south asian bloggers have created a blog [] blogging about the latest news and information about the tsunami, agencies suppoting the victims and involved in relief, places where donations can be made, volunteering information and much more.
  • by AnuradhaRatnaweera ( 757812 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:46AM (#11198253) Homepage
    We spent most of yesterday trying to contact relatives and friends to make sure they are okey. Now we are keeping an eye on this page [] for new potential earthquakes.

    We used to enjoy walking and relaxing on those beaches regularly. I don't think we will ever be able to do that again in a free state of mind. :-(

  • tsunami Video (Score:5, Informative)

    by nodnarb1978 ( 725530 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @06:52AM (#11198267) Homepage
    Video here [] high bandwidth server, no worries. 4 different videos. Amazing footage.
  • Donations (Score:5, Informative)

    by riteshm ( 839763 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @07:02AM (#11198292) Homepage
    I am from India so I can talk about my country.

    Any of you planning to donate some money? Dollar may be losing ground but it still has 44 times more value than Indian Rupees. So if you donate 100 dollars that means 4400 Indian Rupees (INR). And to give you an idea what this could mean.. a normal meal in India is around 40 INR while cheap clothing is around 100-200 INR. And medicines per day per person won't be more than 100-200 INR. Taking some conservative estimates, your 100 dollars can save an Indian for 10 days till things get under control and one can start living on one's own. Kindly consider donating... Visit my blog [] and this blog [] for some info on how/where to donate. Redcross and UNICEF are also accepting donations now.

    Regards, Ritesh

  • by AnuradhaRatnaweera ( 757812 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @07:38AM (#11198395) Homepage
    Most media are reporting that this is the first of this kind in Sri Lanka. I think it is wrong. Sri Lanka has a written history of over 2500 years in a book called "Mahawamsa", which is still maintained, and it reports (along with many other books and of course fork tales) a huge natural disaster in 2nd century B.C., where sea waves came upto Kelaniya (close to Colombo).

    This Sunday times article [] starts with the latter part of the story. Complete, but brief, story can be found here [] and here [].

    This article [] gives a list of kings, but nothing about the disaster.

    • If the last time this sort of thing happened in Sri Lanka was in 200 BC, then I suppose one can't be so harsh on the Sri Lankan Gov for not being that prepared for such an event (even though IMO after a 8.9 Richter (or anything over 7) event anyone in coastal areas around the epicenter should obviously prepare for tsunamis).

      Oh well. Hindsight 20-20...
  • by Aku Head ( 663933 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @07:39AM (#11198398) Journal
    From what I have been able to determine, we don't really predict tsunamis. We detect an earthquake under the ocean and wait for the tsunami to hit. If the earthquake is less than 6.5, we ignore it.

    The tsunami is detected by buoys that measure the tide. If the tide goes way up at the wrong time, it must be a tsunami. If the buoy is close to the epicenter, we can then warn people that are farther away. The buoys only work when they are in shallow water. It has been reported on the news that the buoys are very expensive and this is why the nations that were hit by this disaster did not invest in tsunami prediction. It seems to me that a shore based tide detector would be very cheap if it was connected by land line.

    A massive displacement of the seafloor or an undersea landslide is required to create a tsunami. There doesn't seem to be any theory for predicting this other than going with the intensity measurement of the earthquake. There doesn't seem to be any large effort to place instruments on the ocean floor to detect this movement. (It would probably cost too much)

    What about the high energy wave that travels vast distances through the ocean? Shouldn't there be some way to detect this wave?

    • How are you planning on warning people in countries that barely have working phone service? These are countries where fire claims lives because there are no fire codes, and people don't know to evacuate during a fire alarm.

      You are going to need a massive education program to accompany said warning system, in nations where large portions of the population can't read. While it can be done, and it should be done, all the technology in the world is not going to fix this problem. Education will.

  • by GuyFawkes ( 729054 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @09:08AM (#11198659) Homepage Journal
    I forget the exact details, but there is a MASSIVE mountainside in the canaries, which are just the sticky out above the surface bits of FAR larger undersea mounts, that is very unstable and waiting to slip.

    This slip is in a sense like the NASA tracked 2004 MN4 in that nobody knows WHEN it will happen, but unlike it in that it WILL happen as there is no way for it to miss.

    From my recollection the waves, when they hit the eastern US seaboard, will be much higher than the indian ocean event, due to the mass of water displaced by the falling mountainside, I believe wave heights of 100 feet were mentioned, and flatlands like florida being scoured as far inland as orlando etc... deaths would probably total millions, not tens of thousands.

    • Found the reference (Score:4, Informative)

      by GuyFawkes ( 729054 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @09:12AM (#11198681) Homepage Journal ws/2001/08/29/nwave29.xml

      BRITAIN faces a natural disaster that will flatten the Atlantic coastline for several miles inland, a scientist predicted yesterday.

      A massive landslide caused by a volcanic eruption in the Canary Islands would create a giant wave that would hit the coast at up to 500mph.

      The largest mega-tsunami ever seen would be generated when an eruption of Cumbre Vieja on the island of La Palma caused a part of a mountain twice the size of the Isle of Man to plunge into the Atlantic.

      "The first impact will be when 330ft waves crash into the west Saharan coast of Morocco," said Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig hazard research centre at University College London.

      "It is not a question of if it will happen, only when it will happen. It could be in the next few decades; it could be hundreds of years hence."

      Devastation from the tsunami was also highly likely in Florida, Brazil and the Caribbean. There the wave would reach heights of 130ft to 164ft - higher than Nelson's column - and could sweep four and a half miles inland.

      Dr Day said: "It is a geologically definite process, a bit like a pressure cooker, with the volcano heating up the ground water and pressure building up inside the mountain."

      In 1949 the mountain moved 12ft in two days, but the disaster waiting to happen would be much greater, according to Dr Day's report, published in Geophysical Research Letters.

      The collapse of the mountain on the west of Cumbre Vieja would release enough energy, equivalent to the electricity consumption of America in six months, to generate a wave more than half a mile high and tens of miles long.

      This would collapse and rebound on the Canaries. As the landslide continued to move underwater, a series of waves would develop, creating enormous surges all over the Atlantic.

      "After only 10 minutes, the tsunami will have moved more than 150 miles," Dr Day said. It would reach America in little more than six hours.

      There have been at least 11 tsunamis in the past 200,000 years, one of which wiped out Minoan civilisation on Crete.

      The largest recorded wave to hit Britain was the Lisbo tsunami of 1755, when 12ft seas pounded Cornwall.

      About 7,000 years ago, the Storegga tsunami, caused by a landslide off Norway, deposited silt several miles inland in northern Scotland.

      "When the wave from the Canaries reaches Britain, it could be as high as the Storegga, which may have been up to 60ft," Dr Day said.

      "It is difficult to know how far the ramifications will go. We should be looking at the doomed civilisation of Crete when assessing the effects." la nds+mountain+landslide+tsunami&spell=1
    • There is a reference to this theory in a CNN article [], talking about "a wall of water more than 164 feet high" hitting the U.S. east coast.

      Don't panic.

      But other researchers in Britain discounted the prediction as the product of a speculative computer model. They said that over the last 200,000 years there had been only two huge landslides on the flanks of the Canary Islands and that there was geologic evidence indicating the slides broke up and fell into the sea in bits instead of one big whoosh.
  • by phr1 ( 211689 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @10:30AM (#11199008)

    Land Mines Add to Sri Lanka's Misery

    Tidal waves that hammered Sri Lanka have uprooted land mines that threaten to kill or maim survivors trying to return home while endangering relief workers, a Unicef official said today.

    The tsunami have scattered mines and destroyed warning signs, said Ted Chaiban, the aid agency's Sri Lanka chief.

    "Land mines are posing a new risk to Sri Lankans, and to relief efforts," he said. "Mines were floated by the floods and washed out of known mine fields, so now we don't know where they are and the warning signs ... have been swept away or destroyed."

    The greatest danger will come when survivors begin to return to their homes, not knowing where the mines are, Chaiban said.

    More than 1.5 million mines have been planted across Sri Lanka by the army and Tamil Tiger rebels have been fighting for a separate homeland since 1983.
  • by Chanc_Gorkon ( 94133 ) <> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @12:12PM (#11199712)
    Everyone should check out and see alot of the data collected on this. I know this seems kind of cold to look at the data, but the thing that impressed me the most was the animation they have that shows just how large of an area that this has affected. It's staggering. BILLIONS of dollars will have to be spent over many years to get things back to the way they were on Christmas day. Lives of MILLIONS will be affected in one way or another. The most disturbing thing that I have heard has been the greens blaming this on global dudes.
  • by Vinnie_333 ( 575483 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @12:53PM (#11200062)
    My God ... it's full of starfish...
  • by rbanzai ( 596355 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @01:53PM (#11200662)
    I'm not sure where these weird claims are coming from that the U.S. media is not giving this story enough coverage.
    The first day there was not much but I think that's because the initial damage reports sounded outlandish.
    By the second day it was the top story of every newscast I've seen, both national and local and that persists to today.
    I don't watch Fox news so I can't tell you if their coverage is weak. I'm watching CNN/headline news, NBC and ABC national and local news.
  • by bluenote39 ( 766441 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @02:34PM (#11201024)
    There seems to be a connection between suicide in whales and earthquakes. Around two weeks ago, an Indian Doctor had predicted this earthquake [] on Princeton's mailing list based on whale behaviour in Australia. Interesting...

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