Google Social Network: Orkut 623
shelleymonster writes "According to CNET, Google has quietly released its own version of Friendster, called Orkut. About 3 months ago, Google entered into talks to acquire Friendster, but was turned down. Named after one of its engineers, Orkut Buyukkokten, the new social network looks even tougher to get into than Friendster. An initial 12,000 invitations were sent out, and new users can only join through an existing user. Someone want to invite me?"
Get Invited... (Score:3, Funny)
Friendster? (Score:5, Funny)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Friendster? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Friendster? (Score:3, Funny)
Friendless (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, the above is sarcasm!
Re:Friendless (Score:3, Interesting)
Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)
Orkut? (Score:5, Funny)
They should have named it Buyukkokten!
Re:Orkut? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Orkut? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Orkut? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Orkut? (Score:3, Funny)
Since the first part (Buyuk) is "big" in Turkish you could be righter than you know.
Re:Orkut? (Score:5, Funny)
Looks like something one might hear while playing Street Fighter.
bukkake? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:bukkake? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Orkut? (Score:5, Funny)
Sorry, but Ogg already took that name for another codec. Expect Ogg Buyukkokten to arrive soon and deliver amazing, patent-free chocolate cake compression over TCP/IP.
Re:Orkut? (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:2)
Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:2, Insightful)
Because it has a clean, simple and intuitive user interface. It is very well designed, except for the database part
All the other social networking sites are a PITA to navigate, and have really cluttered, obnoxious UIs.
Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:2)
Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:4, Insightful)
Because once on there are women who troll for "friends of friends" to bang?
Because most those women are computer Geeks who like "Geek pillow talk?"
Because most the female pics are very pretty???
Any of that explain it???
Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:3, Funny)
Or maybe I'm confusing AOL chat rooms with friendster.
Re:Friendster is so 2003 (Score:5, Funny)
WOO HOO! (Score:5, Funny)
YAY!
Re:WOO HOO! (Score:3, Informative)
/. Fan (Score:5, Funny)
Invitation only society (Score:5, Funny)
I don't want to be invited into that!
To quote Groucho Marx (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Invitation only society (Score:3, Funny)
So, what, we should expect to hear banjos when loading the home page? How will this effect the search results for "squeal + pig"?
Branching (Score:5, Interesting)
You could see how they branch, what countries they cross into, and how people relate to each other (interests, age, etc.)
I wonder if this'd be something sociologists would like to watch...?
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Branching (Score:2)
Re:Branching (Score:3, Insightful)
Or the Department of Homeland Security...
Re:Branching (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Branching (Score:3, Insightful)
Though, you are seeing only those people entering the network who are
A. Thought of as at least potentially interested in joining.
B. Wouldn't think less of you for asking.
I would like to know what sociologists think of these kinds of groups, and what purpose they serve.
The point (Score:3, Insightful)
I would go so far as to say that's the whole point. They're probably doing this to analyze statistically how such networking takes place. This would be useful as a model for many things, and I'm sure marketers would be interested if no one else.
Information transfer theory is cool, and no one has the possibility to study it like Google does.
Buddyzoo does this (Score:3, Interesting)
googoogaga (Score:4, Funny)
Re:googoogaga (Score:2)
Or "Googleplex", maybe...
Re:googoogaga (Score:5, Insightful)
a) not as stable
b) hell to install)
Can I be modded +1, Prophetic?
Google Company Directive (Score:5, Insightful)
Ok, that is a cool company. I wish I was working at Google. But they haven't opened a software development office in Iowa yet.
Re:Google Company Directive (Score:5, Funny)
Is it the Sunday?
A New York State of Mind (Score:2)
Sounds like living in the Hamptons.
Quite obnoxious (Score:3, Insightful)
Why, exactly, is this on Slashdot?
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Re:Quite obnoxious (Score:2)
Because for the zillions of geeks here who couldn't care less about a "No Outsiders Allowed" club, it will be a pleasure watching their servers melt down under a good
Re:Quite obnoxious (Score:3, Insightful)
Certainly this isn't about keeping people out, more a mechanism to get people to want to be in. There isn't any meaningful criteria to be met in order to get in.
The phrase "I belong to Orkut." is about the same as... I'm a nerdy computer geek in search of validation.
While exclusivity does have it's place for certain things (rock climbing afficinados for instance) exclusivity for the sake of exclusivity serves as more of a warning for the rest of
What a way to attract users.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Frankly, I think they can go screw themselves....I won't hunt down a way to get into "the clique" and may not even if a friend invites me.
baaaa (Score:5, Insightful)
get over yourselves and do something useful.
Invite yourself? (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems to me, that once you've been invited, you can "invite" your web-driven robot, which can offer a backdoor for many other random people you don't know.
It's like saying you can't get into a brick-and-mortar "gated community." Unless you're a pizza delivery guy. Or any of his friends.
oo, shiny web site (Score:5, Interesting)
2) The Orkut website is really pretty.
This is typical for Google. How do they get the text to fade in on page load? It's really neat. Look at the TOS [orkut.com] page for an example - you see the pink/purple orkut.com's for a while, and then the rest of the text fades in. Is this just a simple CSS thing I should know but don't because I'm stupid?
3) Check out the "golden key" icon (at their privacy policy). It's amazing! lol
Re:oo, shiny web site (Score:3, Informative)
Re:oo, shiny web site (Score:2, Informative)
Re:oo, shiny web site (Score:4, Funny)
Re:oo, shiny web site (Score:5, Informative)
This is only art of it, but it's the color changing part...
Too bad Friendster didn't make a deal (Score:2, Interesting)
I saw this and got really excited! (Score:5, Insightful)
Call me pessimistic... (Score:5, Interesting)
All forms of socialization over the internet seem to start out with loads of potential, but in the end, they all suffer from the scum that tends to surface.
Re:Call me pessimistic... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Call me pessimistic... (Score:4, Funny)
Call it "Pruning the tree".
Diversification before IPO? (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course, being private at this time, none of this has any basis in fact. Although, the fact that Google's probably going to spend $25mil on this suggests that they really do have stupid piles of cash, and can afford to potentially toss big chunks of it away on potential failures.
A Guaranteed Hit in Finland... (Score:2, Interesting)
The potential is huge. Eventually both Finns currently reading slashdot will join, and will be largely disappointed.
-bpfh
I don't know why everyone make so many jokes.. (Score:5, Funny)
Catch 22 (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Catch 22 (Score:3, Funny)
I had one friend on Friendster...he's a real kind of savvy guy who's totally well adjusted. Joining via him added a bunch of new contacts, some of whom I got on very well with.
So, I join friendster with one friend, and suddenly I have ten more. I introduced a few others to my wife, who used to complain about not being able to meet people.
Friendster is just another way to meet people you might like. It's like a digital party, only you don't have to clean vomit off your couch.
"In affiliation with Google" (Score:3, Interesting)
Orkut membership for sale on Ebay (Score:3, Funny)
Nothing on eBay... (Score:2)
Not the most fortunate name (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Not the most fortunate name (Score:3)
Re:Not the most fortunate name (Score:5, Funny)
Thanks!
- Google Orkut Development Team
Re:Not the most fortunate name (Score:4, Interesting)
(..like anyone is really intereted in the linguistic finesse of finnish slang :)
Harumph! (Score:2)
---anactofgod---
Join Orkut (Score:5, Insightful)
Riiiight... (Score:5, Funny)
Riiiiight
Twelve thousand initial invitations went out to join.
Riiiight
Only members can invite new members.
Riiiight
This is the BEST vaporware campaign EVER!
---anactofgod---
Invite only? (Score:5, Funny)
Sounds like the Stonecutters ... (Score:2, Funny)
Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs the cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscars night?
We do! We do!
Yeah. I really want to be part of Orkut. Please, someone invite me.
Google DOES NOT own the domain... (Score:3, Interesting)
Scalability vs. exclusivity (Score:5, Insightful)
A more scalable approach would allow open enrollment and self-organizing clusters. Each joiner would become trusted within one or more loosely defined clusters of BOFs, while remaining untrusted or disliked by other BOFs. At a higher level, BOFs could even assign trust to other BOFs, with members partially inheriting the relative trust levels of the BOF(s) they belong to.
Membership-by-invitation creates an unfortunate hurdle to creating truely globe-spanning networks because it means you have to know someone to be permitted to know someone. Although intended to weed out the riff-raff, invitation-only policies probably do more to create obstacles for legitimate, but previously socially unconnected, potential members. A better post-joining filtration/sortation/cluster would let everyone find their respective community(s).
A truely scalable social network would admit and support gun-toting republicans, and enviro-liberal democrats, and Microsoft apologists, and Apple fanboys. A set of trust distance functions would ensure that each member stays within their respective BOF clusters.
SocNets we'd like to see (Score:5, Funny)
Witchster: you must be an initiate into witchcraft. To get in you need to have posted at least one spell of your own creation, with details on the underlying operation principles. First 12,000 invites went to the High Priest/Priestesses of covens registered as nonprofits.
Govster: you must be a politician who is, or recently was, running for any public office in the United States of America. To get in you must have a public web site that contains the slogan "Vote for America! Vote for me!". First 12,000 invites went to the list of people who ran for Governor of California in the latest state election.
The Eric Cartman business model (Score:3, Funny)
People will be clamoring to try and get access to this thing only because they're being told they can't have it.
What a great country!
They should call this WHOogle (Score:5, Funny)
Whoogle -- social networks
Oogle -- porn
Doogle -- jobs
Zoogle -- info on animals
Choogle -- food, recipes, and restaurants
Club Nexis (Score:4, Informative)
where'd they get 12,000 e-mail addresses? (Score:4, Interesting)
Seems like a lot of addresses. How were they gathered?
Doesn't look like orkut.com had [archive.org] a sign-up period or anything...
Doesn't look like it was sent to Google-Friends Newsletter [google.com] (not in the archive [google.com]; plus RTFA, in which says "Google spokeswoman Eileen Rodriquez said that despite Orkut's affiliation, the service is not part of Google's product portfolio at this time.")
How to Win Friends... (Score:3, Insightful)
The TOS (Score:3, Insightful)
orkut.com's proprietary rights
By submitting, posting or displaying any Materials on or through the orkut.com service, you automatically grant to us a worldwide, non-exclusive, sublicenseable, transferable, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable right to copy, distribute, create derivative works of, publicly perform and display such Materials
Emphasis added by me.
deja vu (Score:3, Insightful)
Given the proven theory of 6 degrees of separation, it shouldnt take very long for all possible connections to be made before the growth reaches a plateau.
Eventually, everyone on each social network will want to have the most connections and will also get an account at all the other social networks.
I've seen this happen in online dating websites that offer "free" accounts.
I've browsed all the online websites that have a sizeable number of people in my city, and 90% of all the women with a free account are the same women across all those sites.
Slashster (Score:5, Informative)
Okay everyone, shameless plug time.
I am currently creating a PHP version of friendster which I call Slashster [slashster.com]. (Yes, this is inspired from Slashdot and Friendster).
I figured that a PHP/mysql implementation would be interesting, and I'm rather curious to see how this thing can end up scaling, and if it can do it well.
I was thinking of launching this on Monday, but this slashdot story was too relevant for me to wait on it, and get some of the press on it.
Right now, its layout is nearly identical to friendster, but will change once I actually get someone with design skill to help me redo it.
There are a couple primary differences between slashster and friendster so far:
I'm very interested in getting input on the place. I'm still doing bugfixes on the site, as I said before, so people visiting might get the occasional parse error or two while I'm updating things.
Still, I'm looking forward to any feedback (positive and negative) on this place. I'm really hoping this post gets modded up, simply so that more people will check it out.
You can email me at the address listed with this user account [mailto]. Thanks everyone.
--Mark
This is an expansion... (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue8_6/adami
Here's what you do... (Score:3, Funny)
If it responds with "invalid e-mail address", then you struck out; if not, score!
Now, next thing to do is to automate this [cpan.org] with your mailbox, and then see which of your "friends" didn't invite you!
Orkut running Windows/ASP.NET ... HMM (Score:3, Informative)
REALLY, REALLY old news (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, Stanford mentions it here [stanfordalumni.org]. It's also been live for quite sometime as Stanford's inCircle [stanfordalumni.org]. The oldest mentions I can find in Google are from 1991, but then again, Google's been pretty well stripped of information on the subject.
The oddest part, of course, is that http://www.clubnexus.com/ is gone, and purged from the Google cache. Same thing is true of http://clubnexus.stanford.edu/. *sigh*
Anyway, here's Club Nexus/Orkut in a nutshell: "Some people were upset because they're not sexy," says Buyokkokten.
Cheers.
Initial seeding could determine the end result? (Score:3, Insightful)
6degrees or whatever it was called was fascinating to me. Not so much for the seperation angle or the giant cloud, but rather for the cliques that showed up and/or developed.
I wonder how Googles newly populated universe will end up. And I wonder how cool it would be to have a UID
--D
Can Anyone Say "Beta"? (Score:3, Informative)
I'd guess the reason it's invite only is to keep things manageable. If you had a community in beta, would you want it slashdotted with new users (many of whom would bitch and moan about every glitch) while you were still trying to smooth out the rough edges?
I'm sure that once Google feels this is ready for unfettered public consumption, the invitation only rule will die.
Greg
Re:It won't be too hard (Score:4, Funny)
slashdotters don't know 3 people each if you discount both parents and Mittens the cat.
Re:so when will they open googleporn.com (Score:2)
http://www.booble.com/
I'm sure Google owns googleporn.com just so no one else would buy it and use it, not because they have any attention of using it themselves.
Re:so when will they open googleporn.com (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:MOD PARENT DOWN!! IMPERSONATION!! (Score:2)
Re:Friends? Who needs friends! (Score:3, Funny)