Electrolux Robot Vacuum Cleaner 219
An anonymous reader writes "Modelled on an ancient arthropod the Electrolux Trilobite is in stores from Friday and should cost around £999." It isn't the first robot vacuum, but they do claim it automatically recharges itself (which I don't think the Roomba does). And for only 8 times the price! A bargain. Electrolux's website has some more information.
Critics are not so positive... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:2)
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:4, Informative)
I've got the standard cylinder version but as soon as the robot verion is released in full I'm getting one.
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:4, Funny)
You'll probably enjoy the oral sex more too.
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:2)
> You'll probably enjoy the oral sex more too.
With the robot, it may not be good, but at least you know you'll get it even after the purchase order's signed.
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:2)
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:3, Funny)
At least it doesn't have a rat brain [slashdot.org]. At least with the mood swing robot you'd only questioned about why you were home late, and why you forgot to vacuum. If it was a rat powered vacuum you'd here it late at night vacuuming in the crawl spaces, you'd never be able to catch it, and your cheerios box would have a hole eaten in the bottom corner, all the cheerios being of course, sucked out.
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:2)
What you really need is one of these babies [henryvac.co.uk]. Now that's a design classic.
Re:Critics are not so positive... (Score:2)
I've heard these things kinda suck... (Score:3, Funny)
Handy hint: (Score:5, Funny)
Magnetic strips must be placed at doorways and near stairs to act as invisible walls and stop it plunging to its doom down a flight of steps.
Re:Handy hint: (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Handy hint: (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Handy hint: (Score:3, Funny)
You mean, like this [somethingawful.com] little fella?
"EX-ter-mi..."
*pause*
"FUCK."
Re:Handy hint: (Score:2)
Your last word is what I thought when I clicked the link and got the anti-leech image, urgh! It ought to be added to the 'goatxxxx' related list (of images you shouldn't have to see).
Although I don't have a link, there was a Daily Mail (UK bigoted middle class rag) cartoon that had a Dalek hell bent on world domination to be confronted with stairs. Unfortunately the first time I saw the Daleks in an episode, it hovered up some stairs - so the joke was lost on me for a while.
I wouldn't mind getting the Dy
Re:Handy hint: (Score:3, Informative)
Slashdot is for college kids (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Slashdot is for college kids (Score:2, Funny)
Dupe? (Score:2, Funny)
Very big news indeed (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Very big news indeed (Score:4, Informative)
Proving once again ... (Score:2)
Roomba self charger add-on (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Roomba self charger add-on (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Roomba self charger add-on (Score:2)
Perhaps it was mis-labeled, on both the sign and the boxes, whatever, but yes I do know the difference between a fast charger and a self charger thank you. They were DIFFERENT (that means they are not the same, in reality).
Thanks for the "instructions" too but I already knew how to recharge a batte
Re:Roomba self charger add-on (Score:3, Informative)
Check the iRobot roomba [roombavac.com] website. If there was one, I'd be the first to buy it.
Re:Roomba self charger add-on (Score:2)
Even without that capability $199 is a decent price (in my mind) and $1800 more for a self charging vacume (Electrolux) is just not worth it to me. Still planning on getting a Roomba sometime this summer.
Re:Roomba self charger add-on (Score:2)
Finally the future arrives! (Score:5, Informative)
Electrolux are a huge mainstream consumer goods company so that they have the balls to develop and market this is fantastic and it will spur others on, which will reduce costs and expand the market.
I'm 31 - when I was a child they promised us a life cast free from housework with more time for leisure.
While it's always been tantalisingly close, most products have been out of the reach of the general consumer, or produced by esoteric manufacturers that are not household names.
Now they are actually starting to deliver. I salut you, Electrolux!
Re:Finally the future arrives! (Score:2, Insightful)
This is also important because of the aging population. As my parents get older, I watch everyday tasks become increasingly difficult. This makes a mainstream product of this sort more than just "cool" or "neat".
Re:Finally the future arrives! (Score:2)
Yeah, it's neat, but it doesn't pick up like a real vacuum, doesn't have a very large capacity, and makes enough mess emptying the bin that you have to do it outside. I have a feeling I'm going to take mine apart and cross it with an old shop-vac, and just let it drag a cord around the room.
Re:Finally the future arrives! (Score:3, Funny)
What they meant was that by the time you are 31 you should be married, and then free from housework with more time for leisure.
PS: this is not sexist since I do not know the gender of the original poster...
Lies lies lies! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Lies lies lies! (Score:2)
For the record, my mother is one of the most tight, bargain-conscious people in the world and she was totally dedicated to Electrolux vacuums. I can't speak to their quality myself (the lawn was my job) but that she was willing to part with her cutter for them speaks pretty highly of them. Of course, this was in the 1970s, so I have no idea if it holds today...
Re:Lies lies lies! (Score:2)
Personally I think Dysons are expensive so I really can't fath
Re:Lies lies lies! (Score:2)
Kirby is no better than Electrolux. They're deeply overpriced and have no better cleaning capabilities than vacuums a tenth their cost. In fact, they usually have fewer features, are louder, and do a worse job cleaning than the other brands.
Roomba.. (Score:5, Informative)
The way you normally use the Roomba is you set the room up so the Roomba can't escape, and you let it go. It does the room, and then chirps when it's done (or stuck). If you don't lock the roomba into the room, it'll wander the whole house but not really get anything done since one charge (of either machine) is really only enough battery to do one room.
To automatically recharge, the charger would need to be in the same room as the vacuum cleaner. If you have two floors, or you have doors, steps, or other obstacles, I imagine that part of it wouldn't work so well - you'd have to keep hauling the charger around as well as the vacuum.
Also unless the AI is good enough that the thing really can navigate itself around a changing environment (hey there wasn't a dog there last time) and make it's way back to the charger before dying every time, I imagine you'd find a dead Trilobyte fairly frequently.
The Roomba normaly takes 12 hours to charge, but if you get the fast charger, it charges in an hour and a half. The fast charger is $69, but well worth it.
And if you buy it from http://www.hammacher.com, they give you a lifetime warranty! I'm wondering if they're going to regret that someday..
So unless this thing shows some other serious advantage over the Roomba, I can't see how it justifies the price..
And I'm not sure how they can say "While other firms have shown off prototype robot cleaners, Electrolux is the first to put one into production.", the Roomba has been on the market for a while now.
- Steve
Unfortunately, the roomba isn't terribly durable.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Its an interesting device, but I've not been terribly happy about how its aged in the six months I've had it...
Re:Unfortunately, the roomba isn't terribly durabl (Score:5, Informative)
Have you also cleared the brushes 20 times? I didn't think so. You're supposed to do that after every run. Wrapped up hair can provide enough friction that it thinks it's stuck.
Re:Unfortunately, the roomba isn't terribly durabl (Score:2)
It's not necessary to clean the brushes every run. According to this page [roombavac.com], they recommend doing it every ten runs. Although I think most people could go with, "As needed." Picking up a lot of long hairs? You'll probably need to clean more often. Not much hair? You can probably do it less frequently. Just clean it when a big wad of hair accumulates at the ends of the brushes.
Re:Come on nowC.... (Score:2, Informative)
That bit about the cat would make it worth it to me if I had a cat and didn't already have one...
I have a Roomba, and I love it..
It requires a fair amount of cleaning to keep it running right at first, but once you've gotten your carpet really clean, it doesn't pull up as much stuff during every cleaning if you let him run often enough. Once you get all the heavy dirt up, and there's not much to pic
Re:Come on nowC.... (Score:2)
They get kitty litter FRICKIN' Everywhere outside their box.
If I could put something down and let it run 3 times a week, that seems like it would be worth the maintainence.
Re:Roomba.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Roomba doesn't map the room with ultrasound. In fact, it doesn't map the room at all. It drives around starting by spiraling out from a room's center, and uses heuristics-based AI to decide when it has cleaned the room. It lightly bumps into everything to navigate around - there are no beams to keep it from bumping into things.
The self-charger is a good idea, and from what I've read the only thing that makes this vaccum superior to the Roomba (and does not justify the price difference). Roomba also can automatically detect a falloff like a stairway ledge, which this Electrolux cannot (without laying down strips). This is true, but is also worth mentioning that you can arbitrarily decide where rooms begin and end because roomba comes with an invisible wall. You don't need to create barricades or shut doors.
It's a pretty neat little device. I sure as hell wouldn't be vaccuming under my bed and couch on a daily basis if it wasn't for this thing going in there by itself.
Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
Would it look like this? [oceansonline.com]
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Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
they give you a lifetime warranty! I'm wondering if they're going to regret that
This is a little off-topic, but from my experience a "lifetime warranty" is defined as the "lifetime of the product," not your lifetime. That means that when the product's "life" has come to an end, they warranty is over. This is defined in many ways by different companies (read the fine print), but I've found when the product is broken in any non-trivial way it's "lifetime" is over.
And yeah, it's a scam. I once had a very
Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
And they [hammacher.com] sell [hammacher.com] such [hammacher.com] cool [hammacher.com] stuff [hammacher.com]. - Steve
lifetime warranty (Score:2)
Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
Re:Roomba.. (Score:2)
on the positive side, their vacuums are close to bulletproof and typically last for decades.
Dirty Corners (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dirty Corners (Score:3, Interesting)
In the grand scheme of things... (Score:3, Informative)
You are absolutely right about the reaching corners part. But apparently, they had done tests with people vacuuming and found that most people miss patches here and there. Thus while the robot does miss corners, it has slightly higher covering percentage overall.
Tor
Re:In the grand scheme of things... (Score:2)
That's right up there with "What's the probability that software bug will be hit in the field?" (Answer: One. And if you hit it even once in testing it will KILL you when a few million people are using the product several hours per day.)
If t
Re:In the grand scheme of things... (Score:2)
First of all, let's think about Electrolux' objectives. It is not to make a robot that cleans 100% well. The goal is to get a robot that works reasonably well at a reasonable price.
I think they have reached the works reasonably well part, but not the price part.
Now is not the time to add an extra "crack-and-crevice tool that pokes out". Now is the time to work on cutting costs in production, and reaching a bigger market.
Of course, if it were as simple as a superficial ch
What I want to know is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What I want to know is... (Score:2)
I Think it has to do with it sucking the cash out of your account.
-Rusty
Does it... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Does it... (Score:2)
Now that's an idea. If a robotic vacuum can plug itself into a charger, why not also plug into a central vac outlet to empty out its dustbin? THAT would be cool.
Re:Does it... (Score:2)
"Magnetic strips must be placed at doorways and near stairs to act as invisible walls and stop it plunging to its doom down a flight of steps."
It doesn't do stairs.
"...returns to its recharging station when it has finished cleaning a floor..."
Yes it's a good little cleaner.
Re:Does it... (Score:2)
(Let's see if the mods understand the joke)
Re:Does it... (Score:3, Insightful)
Electrolux first customer! (Score:2)
vs. the roomba (Score:2, Informative)
this sucker looks a hell of a lot like the roomba, as stated in the post. we sell (or tried to sell) the roombas where I work [bedbathandbeyond.com] for $199.99, and they sold like crapcakes. Nada. People want a vacuum that can hold more than a handful of dust.
I daresay this version will have the same problems owing largely to its short profile. no room! now, if part of the auto-charge trip included an auto-discharge (of waste tray contents) then I think more people might consider dropping that kind of money.
just my 19,999 c
Lazy! (Score:4, Insightful)
I must buy this thing! (Score:3, Funny)
You know, Microsoft makes a vacuum cleaner, too (Score:5, Funny)
Thank you. I'll be here all week.
Basic design flaw (Score:3, Insightful)
Rectangular rooms. Result: dirty corners.
MMM (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:MMM (Score:2, Funny)
The picture in my head resembles the Yoda fighting scene in Star Wars II... at least if it's starting from the top.
industrial applications? (Score:2)
For a normal-sized home though, I'd have thought the setup time - setting the thing going, laying the magnetic strips, emptying the (presumably small) dust box and kicking it when it gets stuck - would be similar to the amount of time it would take to vacuum the place yourself.
Five years ago... (Score:4, Interesting)
I wonder what took them so long to go to market...
Tor
Simple, no pressing need. (Score:2)
The thing to note, these engineers apparently had the bucks to get it done.
Perhaps the real benefit is to make people think of new and more useful ways to employ robotic help around the house.
Is This The Robot . . . (Score:3, Funny)
Put to evil uses (Score:3, Funny)
Besides, the only reason I would want one is if i could control it from work via internet and have it chase around the cats. (that would be great)
cat-chasing (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:cat-chasing (Score:2, Funny)
Re:cat-chasing (Score:2, Interesting)
Plenty of great ideas to experiment with, but the obvious thing to replace the IR LED with is a laser pointer.
Of course, if you are truly ambitious in your cat-chasing expectations, you nee
A possible Slashdot suggestion (Score:2)
Mod me a troll if you want, but this is an ad for a freaking two year old vaccuum, people. When did Ron Popeil become an editor here?
Co-developed with Toshiba, Cute lil' bugger. (Score:2, Informative)
Check out its stunning personality here [toshiba.co.jp]. It bleeps, bloops, and whines while cleaning, which makes it about fifty times as personable as I am while I'm doing my chores.
This promotional site has been up for quite some time, so I had no idea it would take so long to get the Trilobite to market. Personally, I'd prefer a cuttlefish-like robot that swims a
I am going to get one of these and put Linux on it (Score:2)
. . . No, that would suck.
The funnier the slashdot moderators find me, the more my friends and family think I have lost my mind. Perhaps slashdot is a government tool to preoccupy the insane?
Roomba seems to a have a leg up in usablity (Score:2)
However, the way the electrolux figures out a room sounds a little better than the Roomba...
My question is - surely people are doing home versions of these? After watching the Roomba in action for a while in my own house I think I could come up with some better cleaning algorithms.
Some thing I'd like see in a robo vacuum:
1) Sturdier treads so it can over over tricky obstacles (like chair
Terribly old... (Score:2)
This is my cat's worst nightmare. (Score:3, Funny)
What is the point? (Score:2)
Robot vacums will become mainstream when designer will allow them to be used as normal vacum cleaner. I do not want 2 vacum cleaners, only one. It could let it go automatically once in a while to clean the large surfaces, and at every 1 or 2 weeks, I would vacum thouroug
Noisy (Score:3, Informative)
I checked out the Trilobite in the shop a few months ago, and the first thing that struck me was the noise. You don't want to stay in the same room while it is doing it's thing...
Trilobite as registered trademark? (Score:2)
From dictionary.reference.com
3 entries found for Trilobite.
trilobite Audio pronunciation of Trilobite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trl-bt)
n.
Any of numerous extinct marine arthropods of the class Trilobita, of the Paleozoic Era, having a segmented body divided by grooves into three vertical lobes and found as fossils throughout the world.
[New Latin Trilobts, former class name, from Greek trilobos, three-lobed : tri-, tri- + lobos, lobe.]trilobitic (-btk) a
My parents had an electrolux... (Score:2)
Uh oh (Score:2)
Dave
My ideal autonomous vacuum cleaner... (Score:3, Funny)
Secondly, it should digest and live off the dust, which is mainly human skin, so rich in protein. I'm thinking a small bacterial engine that can turn dust into glucose, and pass that onto a glucose fuel cell of some kind.
Thirdly, should be really cheap. I don't want to have to take out my credit card each time I step on the cleaner by mistake. I'm thinking that the ideal model would actually be organic, which makes sense, given the bacterial engine, and so it could actually breed. Hey, why not?
Forthly, I want a powerful AI engine that can avoid stairs and feet, and will search for dust where it's most prevelant, namely in corners and in those hard-to-reach areas.
Fifthly, why not make it able to walk up walls... perhaps using those little sticky feet that pickup the dust so well.
Lastly, since the model is small, it should package its collected dust (after bacterial digestion) into easy-to-sweep nodules. This will eliminate any need for dust bags, discharging stations, etc.
Reviewing my design against the available models, I think the most practical solution would be to use standard breeding techniques combined with genetic engineering to create a species of super cockroaches that live off dust. There may be a small market acceptance problem, but I believe this can be overcome by finding a new name and a cute logo... how about "RoboRoach"?
Re:My ideal autonomous vacuum cleaner... (Score:2)
Have used the Trilobite (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway, October 2002 I showed the Trilobite actually working in a stylish living-room type setting, actually a lounge area we set up in the Swedish Embassy in Tokyo for a few weeks of events. Electrolux was a sponsor. It was made almost entirely by Electrolux, with some changes for the Japanese market provided by Toshiba (mainly electrical and marketing I believe).
Here is a page [e-daimei.co.jp] in Japanese showing the Trilobite on sale for 268,000 yen. Not cheap for sure.
The unit is astounding when you try it, it navigates around table legs and goes under sofas, and starts up and shuts down by itself (and docks itself too). One of the areas they wanted to improve was to make it quieter so that may have been done already. (the Japanese page says 65dB) It is kind of like an Aibo that actually does work for you. It also walks around you, not the other way around.
Oh, the irony (Score:2)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=42669&cid=4
http://www.three.co.uk/
I've worked with this vacuum on stage. (Score:2, Interesting)
It almost fell off the stage during one show...
http://www.iee.org/Events/Lectrs/Faraday/2001/
Re:reminds me... (Score:2)
-Rusty
Re:Sooo Close... (Score:3, Funny)
You have a girlfriend and you're reading slashdot? Begone, infidel!
Re:Sooo Close... (Score:2, Funny)
If a vacuum cleaner can replace your girlfriend, then I'm not going to ask what you're going to use the hose attachment for...
Re:I didn't know! (Score:2)