Evil Bit Added to TCP/IP Packets

Absolut Ralts notes that " RFC 3514 is now available. It provides for an additional so called 'Evil Bit' that can be used to determine the nature of the TCP/IP packet. This should vastly simplify networking and internet security, and prevent the beepers of tired sysadmins from going off and interfering with Warcraft III!"

Three times!?

[Anonymous Coward]

Third post, then?

Re:Moderators on crack, again

[Rick the Red]

Oh, NOW I get it! So modding all these posts Redundant is a meta-meta-joke! Ha ha ha ha! LMAO! God, how stupid I was! You are so damn smart, AC!

The parent is both "Insightful" and "Redundant"? MOC, again. I rest my case.

Most postings on the front page of a single story

[Anonymous Coward]

This is the third posting of this on the front page in the SAME DAY!!!!

I want what TACO smokes ;-)

Clever

[_bug_]

Post a dupe and get away with it by posting another and chalk it up to April Fool's day.

Very clever.

And you would have gotten away with it too! Had it not been for those meddlesome kids.

reminds me of the time when

[theLime]

OH ITS A DUPE OH MAN WHY CAN'T TACO READ HIS OWN POSTS YOU WOULD THINK THIS IMPORTANT SITE WOULD BE RUN BY PEOPLE WHO KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS /. AND *THINK* FOR A SECOND GOD THIS TOTALLY INVALIDATES SLASHDOT IN MY EYES OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE AMATEURS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD ANY REAL RESPONSIBILITY JEEZE AT LEAST LOOK DOWN 3 OR 4 POSTS BEFORE YOU CLICK SUBMIT AAAAAA BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I LOVE TO HEAR MYSELF TALK IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT *BONK* OW JESUS WHAT WAS THAT

*sigh*. I was going to leave it at that, but the /. 'lameness filter' wont let it go through. Putting all of this normal text down here at the bottom really takes something away from the knee-jerk idiot image i was trying to portray, but oh well, I guess you all get the idea.

Re:Clever

[dr_dank]

Get away with it? I don't think so. All in favor of demoting CmdrTaco to the rank of corporal, say aye.

Re:Clever

[Cpt_Kirks]

It's a poodle. Put it on delicate.

I'd prefer to put it on the grill. Maybe that new iGrill?

mmm, hot dog...

Hmmmm....

[reddeno]

It's going to be a long day...

Slashdot appreciation day

[Codex The Sloth]

The annual april fools crapfest serves to remind us all, on this very special day, how much worse the whole mess of perl scripts and duct tape could be.

April First

[pommiekiwifruit]

Gosh, all this effort each year just to make fun of people who still think April 1st is the first day of the year. I.e. the tax departments of the world, who don't care what that uppity new guy Julius Caesar says, starting the year in January will never catch on.

Uh huh ...

[A nonymous Coward]

... about 24 hours worth.

Triple duping, now?

[Robotech_Master]

Or is this just a cruel Slashdot April Fool's prank?

Oh, and first (subjectively, anyway) post! :)

Re:Triple duping, now?

[azaroth42]

If a post in duplicate is a Dupe, then a triplicate must be Tripe!

(groan!)

--Azaroth

Re:Triple duping, now?

[toriver]

Repeating it too many times makes it trite as well.

Both of you should know better

[DaveAtFraud]

You know the law: Use a pun; go to prison!

Re:Triple duping, now?

[PygmyTrojan]

Wouldn't triple duping been six?

Re:Triple duping, now?

[Lemmy Caution]

O of n^2. Eight.

This story must be real...

[mivok]

its been posted three times now!
Its not just a dupe.. its a tripe!

Re:This story must be real...

[mindriot]

When it comes around the next time, should we call it Quad Damage?

Deja Vu?

[freaker_TuC]

I have the strange feeling this world is upside down because of DEJA VU's ?

Re:Deja Vu?

[gmuslera]

Is not deja vu... is just a bug in the Matrix, or maybe just Agent Taco playing with us.

If you say it ofter enough...

[wheany]

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

Re:If you say it ofter enough...

[CSG_SurferDude]

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

If you say it often enough, it will become funny. Just like CowboyNeal.

Hmmm, I don't think so....

Get some coffee

[Ahlee]

Better brew yourself a pot there Taco. Duping April Fool's jokes is bad, mmmmkay?

Had me.

[dnoyeb]

I read the first one. Evil bit. I was thinking of legitimate usages and stuff. Then I saw the dupe and was thinking...idiots. Then I saw the 3rd one and I was thinking...idiot. :-D

I hope this slashdotting of slashdot is not a joke! Don't mess with my information drip!

Re:Had me.

[_anomaly_]

Had me too... till I actually started to read the RFC... pretty funny stuff, esp:

Intrusion detection systems (IDSs) have a harder problem. Because of their known propensity for false negatives and false positives, IDSs MUST apply a probabilistic correction factor when evaluating the evil bit. If the evil bit is set, a suitable random number generator [RFC1750] must be consulted to determine if the attempt should be logged. Similarly, if the bit is off, another random number generator

April Fool's Day

[Nefrayu]

God I love April Fool's Day. Keep on posting dupes, it makes the page more fun to read.

Re:April Fool's Day

[Michael_Burton]

Keep on posting dupes, it makes the page more fun to read.

Well, it certainly is a time-saver.

Hoo Hah

[ackthpt]

This just in:

Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, founder and editor on Slashdot.Org, an internet news site was found to be infected by a mysterious new virus. The infection had been long suspected, but its severity has increased recently by reducing his memory window. A posting on the news site "New RFC Adds "Evil Bit", posted on Tuesday April 01, @05:02AM was reposted less than three hours later, revealing the crippling effect and progression of the disease. In prior instances articles would be repeated several hours or over a day apart.

Experts have issued grave predictions for Mr. Malda. "It was that 534th viewing of Spirited Away, while popping blue penis pills that did it", CowboyNeal, an associate lamented.

In other news: Intel unveiled a previously unknown high priority development project for a 64 bit CPU aimed at the consumer and server markets. Codenamed "Upsidaisyium" it shows Intel did take the AMD Opteron threat seriously after all, further, upstaging Opteron with an earlier release. "We have no software whatsoever which can run on it," said an anonymous source, "because the engineers accidently based it on the 6502 8-bit core. It should make for great new versions of the Commodore 64 and Apple II, though."

Moo

[Chacham]

A dupe of a dupe, about an RFC that's not even that funny.

Oh well, at least there's a spelling mistake to laugh at. "Insecure systems MAY chose to crash," Go figure...

Hate to say it

[binaryDigit]

But I told you so. [slashdot.org]

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[account_deleted]

Comment removed based on user account deletion

Re:Enough already - it's not funny any more!

[rangerx]

It looks like I was correct in suspecting /. changing thier firewall ruleset to allow packets with the evil bit enabled first. Normal packets are trottled down to a crwal. It took me only a few minutes to change the tcpip stack so I can read /. again at decent speeds :)

Again?

[sporty]

Is this Taco's way at getting back at us for complaining about dupes in the first place?

KHAN!

Repetitive

[blues-l]

Okay it is April Fools but why the same thing three times on the same page?

April Fool's

[zero-g]

I think the April fool's joke wasn't the multiple posts, but the horrendous load time.

Either way, i'm calling it -- another post of this story in an hour or so.

Terrible April Fool's Joke

[p0rnking]

K, in the last 12 hours (~10:30pm last night, and 8:30am this morning), this has been posted twice.

And then it took another 5 minutes, to get to the comments (which there were none that I seen at the time of posting.)

Bah...just the Diet Coke of evil.

[numbski]

Just one calorie *not evil enough!*

Tripe!

[The Swedish Chef]

First Taco dupes someone else's post, then he dupes himself. A double-dupe, or "tripe" (pun intended).

This is a perfect example of why I will NEVER pay for /.

Aaarrrgggghhhh!!!

[TopShelf]

This is truly Evil!!! Make it stop!!!

Oh, Geez

[hackwrench]

What's the point of having an evil bit if you don't do something evil with it time and again. I mean, it IS an evil bit after all, what do you expect. It's not every person who knows how to make the most of an evil bit. It's not like it's an evil byte you know, but one of those could come in handy, it's an evil bit, and you simply have to make the most of an evil bit, because it's only so much evil, hardly enough to go around, don't you know.

Wow, Taco!

[Kredal]

third repeat, second by you in 2.5 hours.

That takes talent!

Did it occur to you

[UberQwerty]

that he might be doing it on purpose? To annoy you?

Here's Your Problem ...

[Col. Panic]

Repairman: [pointing to a Good/Evil switch on the back of the doll]
Yup, here's your problem. Someone set this thing to ``Evil''.

Awesome triple post, guys.

[dave-fu]

Once, [slashdot.org] twice, [slashdot.org] thrice [slashdot.org] an unfunny fake RFC makes it to the front page. Adding to the in-jokey humor, CmdrTaco greenlighted two of them. Ho ho! Poking fun of your inability to implement story management or spend any time editing a site you expect people to pay money for? You truly are the living end!
Just post this story and nothing else all day and be done with it. It can't be any worse than any of the dreck you normally shovel off on us for April Fool's. Oh, wait. Maybe you could work in a story about M

Slashdot not RFC3514 complaint

[b1t r0t]

I sniffed the packets from this duplicate article, and the evil bit was not set! I demand Slashdot immediately implement RFC3514 for all duplicate articles!

Re:Slashdot not RFC3514 complaint

[quantum bit]

I sniffed the packets from this duplicate article, and the evil bit was not set! I demand Slashdot immediately implement RFC3514 for all duplicate articles!

They're waiting for Debian to release updated packages...

Is it really April Fools??

[daoine]

With all this story repetition, I'm starting to think I'm in 'Groundhog Day'...

HAHA when will it stop!!

[Wakko Warner]

Rob, this story was great the first time [slashdot.org] I saw it. It was even better when you posted it [slashdot.org] 2 hours later. Now it's just utterly hilarious! Please post it again and again so it becomes the best April Fool's Joke EVAR .

Go for it!!!

- A.P.

The first ever threepeat?

[Drakonian]

Is this the first time the same Slashdot story has been posted 3 times.... and ALL ON THE SAME DAY? We have entered a new era my friends! Now come drink the Koolaid with me, this is the sign we have been waiting for!

Who's the April Fool?

[HardCase]

And the winner for the shortest time to post a dupe?

Taco! -- 5 minutes.

Wrong day!

[mbbac]

It's April Fool's day, not Groundhog Day!

Get it right, Taco.

HAHA! MAKE IT STOP!

[Wakko Warner]

Rob, this story was great the first time [slashdot.org] I saw it. It was even better when you posted it [slashdot.org] 2 hours later. Now it's just utterly hilarious! Please post it again and again so it becomes the best April Fool's Joke EVAR .

Go for it, man!!!

- A.P.

It's not funny anymore.

[mackman]

Ok, now it's funny again.

First April Fool's day Triple Post??

[tweakt]

Whee! First triple, april fool's day post:

• 2003.04.01 10:30 - RFC 3514: New Bit Defined for IPv4 Headers [slashdot.org] (CmdrTaco)
• 2003.04.01 8:02 - New RFC Adds "Evil Bit" [slashdot.org] (CmdrTaco)
• 2003.03.31 22:25 - Evil Bit Added to TCP/IP Packets [slashdot.org] (jamie)

I only wish it was a joke... *sigh*

Utter tripe

[Glorat]

Slashdot is not about the dupe now. It's full of TRIPE.

Re:First April Fool's day Triple Post??

[syle]

Rob was making fun of himself. Of course it was a joke.

Re:First April Fool's day Triple Post??

[sam_handelman]

*MY* unique, inspired, BRILLIANT april fool's day submission was rejected, and in order to make room for THIS?

Q. Isn't complaining about what the editors post offtopic and flamebait?
A. No! WRONG.

Q. Isn't grousing about rejected submissions offtopic?
A. DOUBLE WRONG.

Q. How about the moderation system? Complaining about that, surely is offtopic.
A. TRIPLE WRONG.

Q. Wasn't my posting rascist, libelous and vile? Also, not funny? Weren't slashdot's editors correct to reject it?
A. WRONG TO THE FOURTH POWER!

That

Good one...

[jgerman]

... it's nice to see Taco has a sense of humor about the things he (and /. in general) get's flamed for. Especially considering /. is free (if you want it that way) and no one has much right to complain. Next year, the editors should all get FP's and mod themselves way down ;)

oh boy.

[vena]

here's a tough one - april fools, or sad reality of slashdot?

dupe the comments too... :)

[muffen]

I still find it amusing that people have comments the third time this article is posted :)

Re:dupe the comments too... :)

[frostman]

actually they're the same comments as on the other two posts, but the randomness of the moderation system brings different ones to the top.

Re: RFC 3514

[MerBat]

As a member of the IETF*, I argued vociferously for a minimum of 3 bits (two to encode [good evil neutral], the third to encode [lawful chaotic]); but after much argument over the space limitations, and confusion over how to interpret the "extra" bit pattern, I was finally shouted down with cries of "you're either with us, or against us!" * Not.

/. first

[evenprime]

I've seen redundant stories posted here before, but this is the first time I've seen it happen so quickly that the first posting [slashdot.org] was still up on the front page!

/. editor enthusiasm

[Alain Williams]

Did CmdrTaco have the evil bit set when he uploaded this article ?

Is this the slashdot editor's equivalent of the first post game ?

Wow

[The Only Druid]

Already a double post of an April Fools joke within 2 hours. Very impressive.

Incidentally, shouldn't these jokes be funny? Jeesh.

At least one thing doesn't change on April 1...

[pjrc]

...dupes!

New Slashdot RFC

[LinuxParanoid]

Hey, could someone help me finish up this RFC?

Slashdot Working Group
Request for Comments: 3514b
Category: Informational

The Duplicate Article Flag in the Posting Queue

Status of this Memo

This memo provides information for the Slashdot community. It does not specify an Slashdot standard of any kind- we don't have standards around here. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

1. Introduction

Slashdot authors [CBR03], lameness filters, troll detection systems, and the like often have difficulty distinguishing between articles that have are duplicates and those that are merely redundant or stale. The problem is that making such determinations is hard. To solve this problem, we define a duplicate flag, known as the "dupe" bit, in the Slashdot article posting [RFC T4C0] queue. Genuinely novel articles have this bit set to 0; those that are used for boring the reader with redundancy will have the bit set to 1.

....

Must... get... back... to... work...

--LP ;-)

boring the reader with redundancy, heh !

[forged]

those that are used for boring the reader with redundancy will have the bit set to 1.

LOL !!!!!!!!!

If Slashdot had any value between 0 and 1, your post alone had made it worthwhile for me today =)

story posted in triplicate

[x0n]

"Hey Mr. Taco, this story appears three times on the homepage, being attributed twice to you as a poster."

"Yes, I know. April fool! Hahahah!"

"I want to laugh and feel caught out by the joke, but I'm finding it difficult to derive humour from it."

"That's because it was a genuine mistake! hahhah! April Fool!"

"It's still not funny. You're not getting out that easily."

"..."

"Evil Bits"?

[skydude_20]

Whats with this recent surge of evil bits stories? Is this some let-Bush-edit-for-a-day thing slashdot is trying out?

Re:"Evil Bits"? And then some

[Havokmon]

I saw a proposed addtion to that RFC.. It provides the ability to mark packets as:

Lawful Good
Lawful Neutral
Lawful Evil
Neutral Good
True Neutral
Neutral Evil
Chaotic Good
Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Evil

Taco sensitive?

[div_2n]

I wonder if Taco got a little chapped about my 10 point joke about dupes in the previous dupe?

Taco, did I frost your mouse?

third time's a charm

[cpfeifer]

I love the jokes today, but we really need to start being more innovative.

Frist Stop!

[Noryungi]

First Post in a TRIPLICATE April Fool post that is ruled, in Soviet Russia, by Beowulf cluster of nude Nathalie Portman, covered in hot grits and saying that BSD is DEAD, Doggoneit!!

There... I feel better...

Its past 12 pm

[Neophytus]

*slaps cowboy, the jokes on you!

Ground hog day

[Morgahastu]

Come on taco, this is April Fools day, not Groundhog day starring Bill Murray.

Enough is enough!

[Deven]

This is a cute April Fool's RFC (although I prefer the classic "TELNET Subliminal Message Option" or "IP Transmission Over Avian Carriers" RFCs), but did we really need to be told about this three times today?

The dupe game...

[guido1]

Current scores:
CmdrTaco: 2
Timothy: 0

In a resounding move, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda has leaped into the lead over Timothy "I love dupes" with an amazing double-dupe!

Analyists believe Timothy's only chance to get back into the game is to try for a double-doggy-dupe.

We'll keep you updated...

e-fucking-gad.

[intermodal]

what happened to the day when people would post a simple note pointing to an article rather than giving the whole damn thing away before you read the RFC? If I got sent a link to WOM (write only memory) or CPIP (RFC for carrier pidgeon IP) that gave away the whole damn thing i would be pissed.

Repeat?

[BlackHawk]

Oh my GODS, Taco repeated a story! He's having a stroke, folks!!

The first time it was mildy funny...

[Da Fokka]

The third time it's downright annoying.

And are slashdot's evil bits currently set? slashdot behaves like it's being slashdotted itself.

I'm starting to detect a theme...

[Lindril]

Of course, if duplicate stories are an April Fool's prank, then the editors must believe that every day is April Fool's on Slashdot.

RFC Hattrick

[diggem]

How many times can we post about the same stinkin RFC?! Third time's a charm? .. and a hat-trick! Yay! Two story posts were even about the same feature I think. What's extra cool is they're all from CmdrTaco.

Methinks there's a RoboTaco who's taken over lately?

Drug of choice?

[foo fighter]

April Fools Day is not a license to get stoned before noon.

UGH!

[curtisk]

Ok....ok...ok...you guys can poke fun at yourselves, since a dupe is not all that uncommon, and the third time is the "exclamation point" on your joke, we get it....crimey.....enough is enough already....

you'd almost think that there was no real news today at all! Too bad we can't moderate the mods who post the news!

Triple Duplicate Fake Out

[kris_lang]

So there we have it. A triple duplicate posting to fool some of the ./ers some of the time, especially those who do not look at the top page simultaneously containing all three postings at once! This was obviously done to counteract the comment in the first posting stating that if this were a REAL story, there'd be duplicate submissions.

But really folks, a duplicate submission by the same editor within 148 minutes? Outrageous!!!

New game for those tired of google-games: find the shortest interval dup

Slashdot hacked?

[morcheeba]

CmdrTaco posts the same story 2 1/2 hours apart... is that how long his memory is, or is someone else helping out?

CmdrTaco, I salute you :).

[powerlinekid]

Taco, you are friggin awesome :).

Hes doing it on purpose to get a rise out of you all. No matter how stupid Slashdotters in general think Taco is, hes not stupid enough to post the same story twice. Yeah he does dupes but come on... do you really think he'd post the same story twice unless it was on purpose?

The best part of this is that Taco is trolling the crap out of all of you and hes probably sitting at work reading the comments and laughing his ass off.

Now a real April fools joke would be Katz posting a story that didn't have the phrase "... in these post 9/11 times..." ;).

Re:CmdrTaco, I salute you :).

[haggar]

... do you really think he'd post the same story twice unless it was on purpose?

How sadly and pityfully deluded you are:
Google Releases an API for Their Database [slashdot.org]

Google to Offer API [slashdot.org]

Both posted by El Taquito. And check this out: both have been posted in April, for f*ck's sake!!

Re:CmdrTaco, I salute you :).

[Oriumpor]

You mean there are people who DON'T filter that horrible semi-writer out with their articles preferences?

Already the third "evil bit"! Great work!

[tsvk]

OK, as I have understood from all the reports today, this is the third "evil bit" added to the Internet Protocol.

Using all these three bits together, it is now possible to express 2^3 = 8 different levels of evilness, ranging from 000 = "not an evil datagram at all" to 111 = "a more evil datagram than anything you can imagine". And yesterday we had no means of indicating the degree of evilness in a datagram at all! Talk about progress!

Obligatory Simpsons Quote

[cygnus]

That's your problem! This TCP/IP packet is set to *evil*!

Firewall

[Fuzzums]

I'm prepared!!

it does require a patch, but it's integrated in the statefull module of ipchains.

example: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state EVIL -j DROP

Slashdot! The only place where . . .

[Sodium Attack]

1) A first exclusive interview gets posted twice.

2) New scientific discoveries sound familiar.

3) 10 questions turn into 20.

4) Last interviews turn into next to last.

5) Congress is considering the first ever digital cloning ban.

6) Duplicate replies to duplicate posts get duplicate moderation. [slashdot.org]

7) The only thing not duplicated is polls (not even sure about that).

8) 1000/1 = The ratio of time it takes for moderators to discover a dupe vs. the readers.

9) 0 = The number of dupes deleted.

10) The post (God

THIS IS A TERRIBLE APRIL FOOL'S JOKE!

[mustangdavis]

and prevent the beepers of tired sysadmins from going off and interfering with Warcraft III!"

Beepers interfering with Warcraft III!!!

AHHHHHHH!!!!!


Silly people .... you should turn those off BEFORE you start playing!


What a nightmere! A beeper going off while I'm chain lightning a bunch of wisps!!!


NOT FUNNY!

Offensive, Inflammatory, Innappropriate, Offtopic

[Oriumpor]

now that we have established a BAD april fools article, how about we stop doing them. After the first few years it gets kinda old.

AND not that long ago, this was A DUPLICATE AND an april fools article BOTH which I HATE.

Stop with the april fools, tag them jokes, put them in the humor section WHATEVER, just make it so I can filter this garbage out.

Brainwashing

[jd]

In a move long expected by the Department of Homeland Security, CmdrTaco was revealed to have Suspected AlQwerty links, after he attempted to brainwash the readers of Slashdot with a triple posting.

AlQwerty is a terrorist organization aimed at the overthrow of the Dvorkian empire and the establishment of the Old Key Order.

OMG a third dupe, go taco ! go!

[oPless]

Network Working Group S. Bellovin
Request for Comments: 3514 AT&T Labs Research
Category: Informational 1 April 2003
The Security Flag in the IPv4 Header

Status of this Memo

This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2003). All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

Firewalls, packet filters, intrusion detection systems, and the like often have d

GWB names himself good bit

[Creepy]

George W Bush today named himself the Good bit, and anything Arab the Evil bit. Everyone else will be sorted on a case-by-case basis. The NSA hailed this development, stating that it will help packet sorting by at least threefold, as well as aiding in priority sorting for Carnivore.