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Taiwan Bans Recruitment for Jobs in China To Combat Brain Drain (nikkei.com) 40

Taiwan has told staffing companies to remove all listings for jobs in China, a drastic move to prevent the outflow of vital tech talent to the mainland amid rising tensions between Taipei and Beijing. From a report: The Labor Ministry said that all Taiwanese and foreign staffing companies on the island as a general rule may no longer post openings for jobs located in China, especially those involving critical industries such as integrated circuits and semiconductors, according to a notice seen by Nikkei Asia. The move comes as Beijing seeks to build up the mainland's semiconductor industry -- a goal that has intensified demand for Taiwanese engineers. "Due to geopolitical tension between the U.S. and China, China's semiconductor development has suffered some setbacks and as a result China has become more aggressive in poaching and targeting top Taiwanese chip talent to help build a self-sufficient supply chain," the ministry said in the notice.

Recruitment platforms and headhunters are barred from helping or representing any company in efforts to hire individuals for work in mainland China. Violators face fines from the ministry. "If the recruitment involves semiconductors and integrated circuits, the penalty will be even higher," the notice said. Taiwan's biggest recruitment platform, 104 Job Bank, told clients in a letter Wednesday to "please close your job vacancies in China as soon as possible to avoid violating the regulation," citing the ministry notice.

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Taiwan Bans Recruitment for Jobs in China To Combat Brain Drain

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  • by reanjr ( 588767 ) on Friday April 30, 2021 @04:48PM (#61333506) Homepage

    If little China's economy can't keep up with big China's, then little China's raison d'etre seems shaky. I expect Big Trouble in Little China soon.

    • what about big n little america ?
    • Shaking down a billion peasants and low value added workers by artificially suppressing their wages and using the money gained to jump start higher value added industries works. But that's not on the strength of the economy, but on the strength of mercantalism.

      Mercantilism works ... just like protectionism can work for the US.

    • Taiwan's GDP per capita is only... 2.5x bigger than big China. They're hardly in danger of losing that competition, despite the way most people refuse to look at anything but the latest trend lines.

      • by kinko ( 82040 )

        Taiwan's GDP per capita is only... 2.5x bigger than big China. They're hardly in danger of losing that competition, despite the way most people refuse to look at anything but the latest trend lines.

        [slightly off-topic]
        talking about "per capita" with China hides the massive imbalance between the rich Eastern coastal provinces (with wages and standard of living comparable to "the West") and the much poorer inland provinces. The rich Chinese don't particularly like the uneducated peasants/factory workers...

  • by Ostracus ( 1354233 ) on Friday April 30, 2021 @05:12PM (#61333594) Journal

    Due to geopolitical tension between the U.S. and China, China's semiconductor development has suffered some setbacks and as a result China has become more aggressive in poaching and targeting top Taiwanese chip talent to help build a self-sufficient supply chain," the ministry said in the notice.

    Thing is invasion is a poor recruitment tool for a country as well.

  • wouldnt pay in china be significnatly less than taiwan ?
    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      Do you know what cheap arseholes who do not want to pay top wages do when competing countries offer better pay and conditions, the ban the foreign country. This is insane anti-worker stuff, fuck you and your brain drain, smart workers are not your fucking slaves, you stinking pack of shit heads, we go where the fuck we want to go and to where they offer the best pay and conditions, of employment and quality of life.

      What a pack of master slave shitheels, want to keep them, you lying greedy fucks, provide be

    • by ghoul ( 157158 )
      When you are trying to build up an industry you pay a premium. 5 years back when Reliance was trying to start Jio they poached entire teams out of Apple Cupertino and paid them more than what Apple was paying in the Bay Area for jobs in Mumbai Everyone who went knew this was a 5 year assignment and within 5 years they would be replaced with cheaper homegrown talent. But the cost of living savings meant in 5 years they had saved enough to buy houses in the Bay Area and pay for kids' college. Didnt hurt that
    • For average worker - of course, but not for an highly skilled expert. Know how is in short supply in China and because of that they pay what they have to, which is often as much or more than what the expert would earn in US, EU, or in any developed nation. It's either that or they outsource the engineering effort, which they also do quite often.
      • It seems you are just making up stuff, you make one claim and then contradict yourself in the last portion of yoru sentence. So which is it ?
  • Not just Taiwan (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BetterSense ( 1398915 ) on Friday April 30, 2021 @05:43PM (#61333684)
    I work in the US in semiconductors. This year I got a direct job offer for 50+% more than my current salary, and my current salary is nothing to sneeze at. Great-sounding "technical leadership" role, 100% remote except "required quarterly travel to Asia manufacturing site".

    Of course, back a few years ago when I worked in a different, highly proprietary segment of the industry, everyone knew the story of the poor epi engineer who took just such a role, but quickly quit. Unfortunately he didn't wait until he was back in the US to quit, suffered an unsolved tragic accident, and returned in a body bag. Very real story, there used to be an awareness website up about it.

    Instead of banning recruitment though, it's too bad for the Taiwan engineers that they don't get to benefit from the competitive pressure. It seems like only sports players and actors ever get to benefit from high salaries from bidding wars.
    • To leave Taiwan to work in China if you had a choice. Lifestyle, politics, and dangerous if you ever wanted to return.

      Presumably these engineers are not badly paid in Taiwan.

      So I am surprised that the recruitment ads are relevant.

      Poaching corrupt TSMC employees to steal trade secrets is a different measure. But they would not be advertised in any normal way.

      • Poaching corrupt TSMC employees to steal trade secrets is a different measure.

        If they've worked on anything important, the "trade secrets" are in their heads. So they don't even have to "steal" anything. They just advertize, hire, and pick their brains.

  • is proof that this system works. If you prevent your smart people from going anywhere else they have no choice but to stay at home and innovate.
    • Pulling off the bomb half a century after rest of the world isn't much of a innovation benchmark. If you can keep someone from bombing your nuclear program to rubble it's not that technically challenging to pull off, just demanding in resources. The problem with nuclear programs is that they are really damn near impossible to hide and when the information inevitably leaks you are in all sorts of trouble.
      • by ghoul ( 157158 )
        US built it with British help. Than gave it to the Brits. The Russians were given key info by British scientists with Communist sympathies. French did on their own but then Madame Curie discovered radioactivity so the French had a head start. The Israelis stole it from the French and American programs and had the sympathies of a bunch of German Jewish scientists who were pioneers in nuclear research. China was given the bomb by the Russians. India had an early lead as Jagadish Bose had collaborated with Ein
  • In the 80s and 90s, Hong Kong was the largest source of foreign direct investment in China - a process that "not only helped reduce China's capital shortage problem but has also promoted its foreign exports and accelerated technology transfer from the industrial world." [jstor.org]. Only for China to eventually clamp down, impose restrictive laws and chuck people in jail.

    Taiwan's just avoiding upfront payments for its own demise.

    • ^^Good post.
      Taiwan isn't about freedom, it's about making as much money as practical before freedom ends. Sane Taiwanese with money will have bought homes and had children overseas to expedite their escape from a fate only fools (and NeoCon shills nostalgic for the Cold War but in no danger of personal combat) pretend isn't inevitable.

      Taiwan's fall is unfinished business from the Chinese civil war and of vital importance to the unification of China. Taiwan does not acquire nuclear weapons because it is not

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