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Comment: Re:Can we stop trying to come up with a reason? (Score 1) 699

by Aighearach (#48200763) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

We all still have the right to live under a bridge...

Here in the US every bridge is owned by a state or federal Transportation Department, and it is illegal to camp under them, or even to trespass under them in most cases. So no, you have no under-bridge rights.

Comment: Re:Can we stop trying to come up with a reason? (Score 1, Informative) 699

by Aighearach (#48200755) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

With that many links they won't refute anything because nobody is going to click them. It is an obvious troll.

If there were just 3 or 4 links, then a person might think, "Oh, somebody researched it and found something contextual." If it is a giant list of links, it is more like, somebody did a search and pasted it. Which is just trolling, we all know how to do an internet search on our own. With that many links, I'll bet half of them repeat each other's language because they're repeats of the same source documents.

And the high percent of tumblr and youtube links makes it even more clear it is not serious information.

The vastly most likely answer is that it is pasted from some anti-feminist list.

I did check a couple of them and they were absurd crap, not anything relevant to this discussion, and not anything that a reasonable person would confuse with being relevant here.

Comment: Re:1..2..3 before SJW (Score 1) 699

by Aighearach (#48200707) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

It's the SJW ninnies that are trying to pretend that nerds are the perpetrators here when they are generally powerless and denigrated.

I find the idea that nerds would ever chase off women particularly amusing. Hell, most of us would KILL to have women around. If women are electing to not pursue the field, it's certainly not because they're unwelcome. On every team that I've ever been on with women, the guys went out of their way to be nice to them.

Actually, sorry to break it to you, but "OMG OMG OMG it's a female programmer she must be a nerd like us OMG OMG OMG AWESOME" is going to be very scary to most women. It is mal-adjusted and creepy. That it feels like a positive reaction to the guys who respond that way doesn't make it any less scary, it just makes it more difficult to correct. And any unusual behavior that is based on gender is going to be "unwelcome," it is not only intentionally unwelcoming behavior that is unwelcoming.

That there might be a co-worker who would "KILL" over having her around is... exceptionally unwelcome.

Comment: Re:All the movies had women in business (Score 5, Insightful) 699

by Aighearach (#48199325) Attached to: NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

Actually you underscore the lack of socialization during programming. Your attempted counter example shows your social meter is differently calibrated than average people. You accept a very tiny bit of edge dialogue as a replacement for continued socialization all day in typical office jobs.

The loner might not be a hermit in the mountains, it doesn't change that the job is primarily solitary, even when coordinating with a large team.

Comment: Re:What? (Score 1) 542

by Aighearach (#48197693) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

Bullshit.

Everyone I know that is either (1)uninterested in the systemd debate, or (2) actually in favor of systemd is (3) a completely incompetent hack in most areas that (4) have mostly bad ideas generally.

So rather than "Bullshit," your claim actually supports mine. The only ones who don't support it are the ones who don't care, or are idiots who already aren't listened to by their peers.

Comment: Re:That's all we need ... (Score 1) 542

by Aighearach (#48192765) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

No, the "blowback" is just like #gamergate, a bunch of angry neckbeards who didn't even research the problem, and don't even know if their specific complaints are real things that happened, or hater propaganda they're repeating.

You'd almost think from the propaganda that systemd doesn't still allow the legacy SysV init scripts to run. But it turns out, they still work fine, and most of the distros with systemd haven't even ported many startup scripts, and even on a computer running systemd most of the startup is still done by the legacy initscripts.

I support systemd wholeheartedly, but I'm not going to port my old startup scripts. New software, sure, I'll learn the new stuff and integrate the way that is normal in the year that I'm writing the software. But backwards compatibility is a thing.

Comment: Re:What? (Score 0) 542

by Aighearach (#48192745) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

Your point seems to be, "new stuff requires new debugging methods on failure, avoid new stuff."

Like most sysadmins I generally agree. But also like most, I'd been waiting decades for SysV init to get replaced. It is worth learning something new every couple decades.

As an aside, most competent admins wouldn't be "resorting" to the kludge you describe, and will probably just stare and you and blink rapidly when told doing so is supposed to be a good thing.

Comment: Re:And this is why Linux will never win the deskto (Score 3, Interesting) 542

by Aighearach (#48191245) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

I'm still running the same timeseal binary for internet chess that I was running in the 90s. I'll bet the old *bsd builds still work, too.

It is over 15 years old.

I still sometimes run programs I wrote in 2001. I don't make any changes or upgrade anything, it all just still works.

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