Final Fantasy XIII Announced At E3 123
Thought it's not terribly surprising, it's nice to hear. Final Fantasy XIII has been announced for the PlayStation 3. It actually sounds like there will be three separate titles: A traditional RPG, a mobile game, and a 'versus' title. From the article: "FINAL FANTASY XIII. They pulled a serious bait-and-switch on us. Sword-and-gun-wielding heroine who looks like Yuna, flipping her way around a high-tech, futuristic world ... Motomu Toriyama will direct the game. And apparently FFXIII isn't the only game coming out of this universe--there's a, uh, mobile game too. Oh. It's Final Fantasy Agito XIII ... Final Fantasy Versus XIII?" Additional announcements include a new Crystal Chronicles and Dragon Quest for the Wii, and a Final Fantasy VII universe title for the PSP.
My first reaction (Score:4, Funny)
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That's why it was X-2 rather than XI. It actually was a sequel. I think spun is trying to say a change in Roman numeral does not imply a sequel with FF.
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Okay, then it was named X-2 rather than XIII, or XIV now if you want to be so technical. But I should hope everyone got the general idea the first time.
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I read somewhere that you don't actually have to buy a Final Fantasy title when it comes out. It's sorta like that 'suggested donation' sign in front of the museum.
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No. (Score:3, Insightful)
Besides, if you're still buying Final Fantasy games by the 13th game, and you feel bad about it, then you've got some kind of weird self-abuse issues.
Re:My first reaction (Score:3, Insightful)
Such is the stock witty remark made by every other person who doesn't care for the Final Fantasy series. Seriously, I've heard this "original" comment from no fewer than 20 different people.
Like most things, there's actually a reason and a story why they name a seemingly unending series "Final". Wikipedia has a nice summation, which can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy#O [wikipedia.org]
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yay (Score:1)
Say it ain't so! (Score:1)
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That comment could have been made much funnier with the proper insertion of a "with."
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Thirteen? (Score:1, Informative)
There can only be one! (Score:1, Funny)
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Final Fantasy "Whatever" (Score:1)
Sure, I've played FF7 and FFX, and they were quite good, but honestly, how does this stuff get marketed so successfully? It seems like nothing but hype to me...
I really can't see kids getting excited about ALL new characters.
Most console RPGs are this way, in fact. (Score:3, Insightful)
The Dragon Quest series.
The Tales series.
The Grandia series.
The SaGa series.
The Wild Arms series.
The Shining Force series.
The Atelier series.
The Breath of Fire series (even if there's always a Nina).
In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of console RPG series that has had more than 2 games where the games actually are sequels: The Arc the Lad, Lunar, and Ys series a
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I dunno. I was annoyed at first that Yuna in FFX-2 didn't have any of the l33t skills I got for her in FFX, but I quickly forgot about that as I realized it sucked in many other ways.
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I think w
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Link to the
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Good clarifications, there. (Score:2)
I also just plain forgot
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Just to add one, Xenosaga has 3 parts or it will do once the 3rd is released.
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I'm about 30 hours into the first game at the moment, and I plan to pick up the second soon after I'm done. Excellent console-style sci-fi RPG.
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Xenogears on the other hand, while it got horribly rushed in the end, it was at least created in a cohesive manner, and didn't undergo numerous plot rewrites like the Xenosaga series
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A core of them survive and stay around into the next sequel, and you can load the previous game's savegame so that those core characters would be more buffed up than usual either in characteristics or items.
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You have some console RPGs (3 in sequece if I'm not mistaken), then a TV series that continues from where the last RPG left, then another RPG that continues from where the TV series left, and now a PSP game. But I'm not sure, it has been a while since I've seen the TV series and searched for info on it.
Re:Final Fantasy "Whatever" (Score:5, Insightful)
Jesus, who do you work for, EA?
RPG Support for Wii (Score:2, Interesting)
While I didn't really care much for Crystal Chronicles, the news of a Dragon Quest title intended for the Wii is awesome; not just because the DQ series has been good, but also because this means that some good RPGs will be available for Nintendo's new platform. Quite looking forward to that, actually--more so than yet another Final Fantasy title of any kind for any platform.
Final Fantasy just hasn't been the same since Sakaguchi-san left Square. And Nobuo Uematsu, for that matter, but I'm glad to see the
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I think I'll pass on Crystal Chronicles 2.
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Ah the glory days of the snes, psx, and ps2... With a few exceptions most rpgs were made for these systems.
don't forget about FFXII (Score:3, Informative)
If you're interested in reading more specific details about XII, read my spoiler-free import impressions of the first 15 hours of gameplay over at ufck [ufck.org].
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Err, no, I think only those who are Final Fantasy fans (and didn't think the demo was comparable to boning a wood chipper) should be excited by YAFF.
They're not sequels, they're an RPG trademark (Score:3, Insightful)
For people who judge games solely on how fun they are to play minute to minute, the brand is weak. For people who have estabilished an emotional connection to Final Fantasy, the brand is strong and that's why they sell a lot of copies. They have established loyalty beyond reason. Good for them! It makes it easier for them to sell their games.
I only bought FF 1 for the NES way back when and Tactics for the GBA; I would have gotten 7 but the PC demo scared me away with long boring animations. So this is an opinion based on how other people talk about the games rather than first hand experience.
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I say more power to Square for finding something that at least many people think is great. Thats more productive than curmudgeioning (sp?) on Slashdot will ever be.
Where's the Plot! (Score:5, Insightful)
Some buddies of mine were chilling around watching Advent Children the other day. We were lamenting about how Final Fantasy VII blew our minds early on in the game, and kept blowing our minds up until the end. That game instilled a sense of *wonder*, and many late nights were spent just wanting to play a little bit more to find out what the hell was going to happen next! The game before that, Final Fantasy III (or VI for you purists), had a great plot line as well.
However, every single Final Fantasy since then has been good, but *not* the awe-inspiring series we remember. Even the Final Fantasy movies were more about being pretty than about the actual story. The last Final Fantasy I played through was Final Fantasy X, and I always had a feeling that Square was more focused on kick ass cutscenes than having a kick ass story. ='(
Here's my wish list:
I want *great* things for Final Fantasy, I really do. But it just seems it is past it's prime. It's become a money maker for an already rich Square rather than the epic story they used to make when they were a smaller company and closer to bankruptcy.
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Final Fantasy III (or VI for you purists)
I wouldn't call myself a "purist", but I gave up a long time ago trying to decide how to refer to that game. The only obvious choice was to call it VI. Why? Because there is only one game called Final Fantasy VI. If you say III, your audience has to decide whether you are talking about VI or III. You either have to shoulder the risk of them not knowing what the hell you are talking about or waste the time to explain to them which game you're actually talking
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Threads of Fate
Xenogears
Chrono Trigger
Kingdom Hearts Series
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Just wanted to state...
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Pass.
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My point is that I fondly remember those old Final Fantasies because they had great stories.
Of course I would rather have all new stories and be blown away by Final Fantasy again, I just don't think Square has the ability to write awe-inpiring plots anymore.
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In fact, the only FF game after VI that sticks out in my mind is X-2 for
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What about those who malign it because it "turns the fscking series on its head?" Freeform gameplay? A story that dodges the 7+ "Baseline" but is still inane? A direct sequel?
There are plenty of reasons for an FF fan, especially an old school FF fan, to dislike that game other than being an overengineered Kisekae set.
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I've tried to get into FF7, but I just can't. The flaws keep getting in the way.
I was able to go on and enjoy FF8, 9, and 10. I also enjoyed the older Final Fantasies. I'm able to forgive a lot in a game, but could never get past the f
Spend money on new ideas, not remakes! (Score:1)
I already played the game, and I enjoyed the game in the past.
I'd prefer to spend my time seeing what someone else can come up with!
One of the greatest things about Final Fantasy, is that everytime you buy a new Final Fantasy (major version), you will get a totally new game.
Sure, some ideas and gameplay is rehashed.
But I'm satisfied with the combination of character, story and gameplay changes to buy a new final fantasy.
It's certainly better than Dragon Quest, or sports games, or many F
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Honestly, part of this is probably just that you have grown older and more jaded. Another is probably that you may no longer be as open-mind
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Dude. You have got to get out more.
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Having to rotate each character into each fight just to get one hit in, to get the XP, got really tedious, really fast.
I've been spoiled by Knights of the Old Republic/Jade Empire, where inactive party members still get XP.
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Far better to let Square work hard to create a new, wonderful game than to chase the ghosts of RPGs past. In fact, it wouldn't even have to be Square; as long as *someone* does it, that will be good enough.
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I recommend, highly, the Grandia series, especially Grandia Two. Kinda hard to pick up, as it seems kinda rare, but it's well worth it. It's one of, in my opinion, the 'underdogs' of the game industry that should've been great, but wasn't (like the system it launched on, the Dreamcast).
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I definitely second the parent's post, with the warning to only go to Grandia III as a last resort.
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Then again, it could've been just my pc.
Me, I didn't mind the low difficulty. The story was good enough to keep it driving without me having to go-back-and-level-because-the-boss-kicked-my-ass, which I hate anyways.
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You saw the "seals of valmar are intended only to infuse people with valmar, not seal him in" plot twist?
I liked the story, simply because it starts off seeming so cliche, and then turns around and shows you a different world. Also, Ryudo is an amazing asshole to everyone. And the battle system which makes every square game laughabl
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Dragon Quest (Score:2)
Dragon Quest? For Wii? (Score:2)
Dragon Quest Wii - Huge! (Score:3, Insightful)
Dragon Quest isn't as big as FF in the states, but Dragon Quest 8 sold a lot of copies over here nonetheless. The GameCube had a shortage of good RPGs, so hopefully this helps turn Nintendo's fortunes around.
Also, it sounds like a swordfighting title, which will fit the controller well.
Advice for SE (Score:2, Funny)
Not Final Fantasy XIII.
Final Fantasy 1.3x10^1!
It's bound to be more efficient in the long run.
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Versus? (Score:2)
Ugh. Hopefully not another Ehrgeiz.
Screenshots of all the Final Fantasy XIII games (Score:1)
Mod parent up. (Score:1)
voiceovers (Score:1)
If there's one thing I'd like to see in this new game, it's some good old-fasioned *Text*.
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Its like posting chatlogs.
Though i always prefer text then to listen to NPCs for 1000th time about the evils of the world.
The genre of modern games is dominated by 3d,Voice acting,elaborate rendering and atmosphere,realistic characters and film like detail.Text speech looks arhaic in the context.
Final Fantasy XIII: Cut Scene Empire! (Score:2)
It will be one big cutscene. If you press X during the game, you will get a Game Over screen, with the traditional ff music and stars flying around.
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But Versus XIII... Visual style from the AC team, gameplay from the KH team to make it play in realtime like it used to look in the cutscenes. Hmmm. I'm already interested.
New peripherals for Crystal Chronicles 2 (Score:2, Funny)
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Sweet! Octopi gamers have long been neglected by the industry.
Great! But, um... (Score:2)
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Naming irony (Score:2)
What irony!
Resident Evil meets FF X (Score:1)