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CEO Calls For AOL Paradigm Shift
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An anonymous reader writes "The New York Times is reporting that Jonathan Miller, AOL's chief executive, is calling for the effective dismantling of marketing for their dialup service. In a new plan to be presented to the Time Warner board in a couple of weeks, Miller outlines a new direction for AOL which moves towards using advertising as the main source of revenue while offering most everything they have (software, AOL.com email addresses, etc) for free."
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garzpacho writes "In recognition of the fact that its subscriber-based revenues continue to plummet, AOL is planning to shift to an ad-supported business model. AOL's subscriber base, which peaked at 30 million users, now has less than 19 million subscribers and is still dropping — over 800,000 subscribers dropped the service in this year's first quarter alone. In addition to seeing fewer AOL CDs, a shift to ad revenue also means some serious cuts in staff size, especially in the customer service and retention departments. From the article: 'Time Warner plans to announce a series of changes at AOL that analysts say will mark the end of the company's paid-subscriber model. The company will begin relying on advertising sales rather than monthly fees paid by customers, according to the Wall Street Journal. 'I don't know whether advertising will work, but my thinking is (the changes) are basically an acceptance of what is happening,' says Joseph Bonner, a media and telecommunications analyst at Argus Research. 'This is a reflection of reality, that they have to find some other source of revenue.''"
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It's AOL... (Score:1, Funny)
AOL's new technique for retaining customers: (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.last.fm/user/andrewofnagy/)
Hmm AOL For free? (Score:3, Interesting)
Cancellation? (Score:1, Insightful)
Think how much harder it would be to "cancel" when it becomes free.
Re:Cancellation? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://sduran.inetlocker.com/)
You cancel services when you dont want to continue paying for them.
No more cds?!?! (Score:5, Funny)
This makes absolutely no sense (Score:5, Insightful)
Even my mother who has had broadband for only a year now knows user@aol.com == newbie. She knows better than to pay attention to mails from there declaring "Important, new email virus alert!!!" as these people are still wet behind the ears.
Given the number of CDs AOL has sent out, and the negative response to their bloated dial-up software, I don't think people will be scrambling to aol.com to get their hands on the latest.
So why would anyone go to AOL.com? The article leaves me unconvinced. About the only thing I can agree with is the CEO's statement about it is going to get worse (before it gets better, but there is no guarntee of that)
Paradigm Shift? (Score:5, Insightful)
Just a thought (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.last.fm/user/andrewofnagy/)
Re:Just a thought (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.kaillera....topic=1743&forum=5&0 | Last Journal: Tuesday August 10 2004, @02:43PM)
I strongly disagree...
AOL has some really good properties under its belt. Namely, i'm talking about Winamp. Let's not forget about all the Time Warner stuff they have access to as well.
With Winamp and it's shoutcast technologies, they have a good platform for content delivery, a really smart user base that constantly provides free features for Winamp through plugins. Since the 5x series Winamp has moved beyond just being a mp3 player, it has live streaming content, access to tons of Time Warner properties (Animaniacs/Freakazoid anyone?) and there's a ton more stuff planned on the horizon.
Recently a job [winamp.com] for Music Director has popped up. Part of the description talks about things going towards social networking in the Winamp microchasm. As we know, Nullsoft is sort of the place where new AOL technologies are being developped, so it stands to reason that the social networking on the horizon for AOL and Winamp is going to include some aspects of both communities, myspace with NSV video is my guess.
The AOL client isn't completely suck ass either. Now before I get boo's from the peanut gallery let me explain... I run my own consulting company, and today I had to do some work at a lawyers office, and she's been using AOL as her email for years. She got a new PC, wanted me to transfer files from her old PC to her new PC, then hand-me-down her old PC to her assistant. I walked in thinking "OH noes! PST and outlook!" Since the AOL email client stores all the emails on the server, it was pretty painless. It wasn't *that* bad. They just logged in with their screen names, and like magic, all their stuff was there.
The AOL client isn't too shabby for reading news or other things either. Sure you can fire up Moz, but it's really not that bad... If AIM was so terrible, why do so many people use it?
About the only thing that has been bad with AOL is their dialup. Even there, not that bad. AOL has always had the biggest banks of blade modem banks. Dial up numbers just about anywhere you can think of.
It's a shame so many people judge AOL on what it was 20 years ago. Sure, it was crap then, but over the years AOL has been pretty good about responding to customers outcries about the bad, and then AOL has always moved quickly to resolve it. Remember when folks complained about busy signals? AOL took care of it. Hard time cancelling your account? AOL fired the person who got recorded, then told all their staff to not give customers a hard time. Despite all outward appearances of AOL being a hard company to deal with, force feeding their customers what they want, in reality the opposite is true.
Anyways, I have no beef against AOL. It's made the internet easier for some people, which is a good thing in my opinion. It takes a corporation with deep pockets to accomplish what AOL has, and my hats are off to them. Money well spent.
--toq
Good Price Point (Score:3, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday November 08, @11:55AM)
Maybe it's the content? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.cheapcheap.biz/)
"In May 2006, 14.8 billion pages were viewed on AOL's branded service -- by both paying users and others -- down 27 percent from a year earlier, according to comScore MediaMetrix. In the same period, Yahoo's page views increased by 10 percent, to 38.1 billion."
Here's a clue: try improving the quality rather than lowering the price. Actually, chances are that AOL's stuff isn't that bad (/. bashers aside) but just the fact that it says "AOL" on it gives people a certain predisposition against it. So, a second clue: try honestly rebranding yourself to improve market perception. If McDonald's can do it, AOL can too.
Sad News (Score:2, Informative)
Disturbance (Score:3, Funny)
It was as if millions of mail carriers suddenly cried out, then, peaceful silence.
An ad for every surface on earth (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://neilmcallister.com/)
I don't know how to feel about it. I'm somebody who hates ads. I watch a lot of PBS, tend to rent shows on DVD rather than watch them when broadcast on commercial television, or if I do watch them, I skip the ads in my DVR. Likewise, I run AdBlock and an aggressive set of filters in Firefox. My goal is to see no advertisements at all. Ironically, however, those same ads are my livelihood. Am I cutting my own throat?
Even scarier is the fact that all the movie and TV studios are aware of this behavior and are taking steps to correct for it. Product placement, for example -- it's no coincidence that guy is drinking a Coke and not a Pepsi, or that there's a big RSA Security logo on that video monitor in that episode of "24."
So if we don't want to pay for our content, and we refuse to be receptive to traditional advertising messages, how long before that kind of influence gains a foothold in other kinds of media? I work in the trade press, so we're right on the cusp of that -- some people will never believe that a story in my magazine is meant to be impartial, no matter what it says. But does anyone really think the mainstream news media -- even something like the New York Times -- is completely impervious?
I really, really do not want to live in the kind of world where every flat surface is paved with an ad, every movie is a sales vehicle, every TV show is a survey, every newspaper article is corporate public relations. But is it avoidable, given the direction our society is going?
Re:An ad for every surface on earth (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://conceptjunkie.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 25 2003, @10:22PM)
Web 2.0 has been a big buzzword for the last year, and the technological achievements and potential are impressive and exciting. But name me one Web 2.0 business that is actually a successful business! And even if there are some (MySpace?) that are generating non-trivial revenue, they are doing so through advertising.
Paying for content online has some serious hills to climb because ultimately customers want something concrete for their money. If you buy a newspaper for 50 cents, you get dozens of pages of content (and full-page bra and panty ads if it's the Washington Post), so what would be a analogous price for a single article (let's forget for a minute that most Web-based news articles consist of about two paragraphs and are barely a summary leave alone an actual article)? Would you pay to post on
For people who aren't selling actual objects and services, whether it's Amazon selling books or iTunes selling MP3 files (which are still concrete enough to make feel like you are "getting something") or Everquest selling some Chinese slave laborer a change to farm gold, who is actually making money on the Internet without relying mostly or even solely on advertising?
In other words, if the customers aren't shopping and there's no advertising, how exactly is someone going to make money on sites like
Ultimately, I don't think the post-advertising/non-subscription business model has been discovered yet. So I don't think you can criticize AOL for doing the only thing I think they possibly can do, at least for now. My biggest criticism would be that they took too long to figure this out. But the company is too big and has far too many resources to just disappear; it just won't be the AOL we've come to know and joke about.
Unappreciated genius. (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.televisio...com/show.cgi?show=44)
For those unfamiliar with his vision for the future, Mr. Miller would replace our telephone modulator-demodulators with an "Ethernet" entering the home over thick black cables -- or perhaps even copper telephone wiring!
Anyone the world over could view America OnLine's pictures through an interconnected "Web" of compters independent of the company. They could even manipulate America OnLine's own computers to "search" this "Web!" How very generous!!
This new vision for inter-networking has already caught on with the kids, who have crowned it "CyberWeb 2.0" or somesuch.
I would explain further, but I must telegraph my stockbroker posthaste, to see if we can't convince this America OnLine to detach itself from old Time Inc. and sell off its own shares! It's growth potential is simply ex-plosive!
Posting via dictaphone,
Charles Fornwall Huston XII
AOL stands for something new (Score:1)
(http://www.1wit.com/)
AOL = Advertisements On Line
10.0 Free Advertisement Edition
[as opposed to Advertisement Free Edition]
Brilliant!
cities rejoice (Score:2, Redundant)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 03 2007, @11:34AM)
Paradigm Shift? (Score:5, Informative)
Wait A Sec... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://robertdot.org/ | Last Journal: Friday January 23 2004, @06:02PM)
They are just now relying on ads as their main source of revenue? Back when I used AOL, their ads were pervasive to the point of being annoying. Everyone I know that uses AIM thinks the number of ads are annoying.
So, what they are saying is that it will only get more annoying as they bump off dial-up. Great plan, AOL.
If AOL wanted to swap from service revenue to an ad revenue, they shouldn't have been shoving as many ads down people's throats before the switch.
It's about time (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Typo (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.pobox.com/~meta/ | Last Journal: Sunday February 29 2004, @09:19AM)
How did that letter 'f' get in there?
good idea, look out Yahoo. (Score:1)
I think they should sell it off or spin out the dial up, rather than shutting it down. LAst thing they need to do is alienate the customers they have left. It's still profitable, and makes lots of money.
New paradigm? (Score:2)
New Paradigm: Charge more for a little less.
Oh yeah, Right! (Score:2)
(http://www.geekazon.com/)
Open source YIM? (Score:2)
(http://www.pleasantonplayhouse.com/)
Eternal September (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.thoughtbug.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 27, @05:52PM)
Don't do anything without a pre-meeting (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 15 2007, @08:40PM)
Maybe they could rename their company to AOL... (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Monday January 06 2003, @10:36PM)
Instead of "Don't Be Evil",,, (Score:1, Troll)
Profitability and market share (Score:2)
(http://zaphodforpresident.com/)
I see "PeoplePC" and "EarthLink" commercials on TV on a regular basis, and both charge less than half of AOL's $25/mo. Are lower costs/prices the secret to their sucess? How big is the overall market share of dial-up users at this point? How does the profitability of Cable/DSL compare?
How long until we see a similiar "paradigm shift" with consumer high-speed Internet pricing? If prices dropped accordingly, my $50 monthly cablemode/VoIP costs would become a nominal $6.50 per month. Heck, if it was that cheap I might even order a (gasp!) Pay-Per-View movie now and again.
Is it inevitable, or a pipe dream? Verizon and OptOnline have been battling pretty fiercly here in New York over the past few years, but both have maintained the same basic pricing throughout.
Some useful content (Score:1)
(http://www.shezphoto.com/)
The Death Spiral begins (Score:1)
Toto, we're not in 1997 any more (Score:1)
(http://www.monash.com/blogs.html)
At the time, I thought they had about two years to bring their software up to the standard of (ever-shifting) user functionality expectations, or they'd be stuck with a perception and positioning -- well, the nerds' perception would also be adopted by the mainstream. As it happened, despite firing their head of development who was a great networking guy but lousy at UI, they didn't fix the software, and they did become scorned by the mainstream. I thought they'd do better -- but then, I thought Bob Pittman would be unto them as Ray Lane was unto Oracle, and I proved VERY wrong about that.
And now -- well, as everybody says, it sucks. The email client sucks. The general UI is clunky. The collection of "content" and functionality is inferior to Yahoo. There are lots of negative weirdnesses (article headlines changing before you can click) and few if any offsetting postive "Wow!" weirdnesses.
So how do they fix that? Pretty much the only strategy that could work is to do something new, and happen to do it right. The internet does keep evolving, so the opportunity is always there. Another note suggested this should be in multimedia/broadband; that is indeed the obvious place to look, for ta variety of reasons. It matches the current technical opportunity. It matches the strengths of the rest of Time Warner. It's just assumed by the generation even younger than people who post here -- i.e., the generation to young to know or care that "AOL sucks".
AOL will probably live or die on how it evolves in the video generation.
Netscape'd (Score:1)
Anyone?! (Score:1)
(http://humblebegin.blogspot.com/)
Anyone get the feeling AOL will be going through serious reorganization soon?
And what would it honestly take for AOL to become a service you would use?
Overall Idea (Score:1)
History of AOL -- Quantumlink (Qlink) (Score:1)
(http://curebox.gotdns.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday September 02 2006, @09:53AM)
I discovered my first fake female chatter on Quantumlink.
This is arguably off topic, but I am reminded of Qlink. This was the primordial rich content service offered by Quantum Computer Systems which trumped all others at the time, and it was strictly for the Commodore (C=64) line. Other offerings such as Compuserve and Delphi were text-only.
I found these links, that some of you may find nostalgic:
http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/gallery/qlink [jbrain.com]m eline.htm [about.com] [scroll down to 1985]
http://internetgames.about.com/od/gamingnews/a/ti
And get the Quantumlink client @ http://www.quantum-link.org/ [quantum-link.org]
also.. of course.. the UNBIASED slashdot commentary:3 6 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/19/23212
Pradigm Shifted (Score:1)
http://dack.com/web/bullshit.html [dack.com]
AOL support (Score:1)
(http://www.dragonweezel.com/ | Last Journal: Monday January 29 2007, @01:47PM)
Their solution was to destroy one of the accounts (which happened to be in use), and create one for the router. Technically appropriate, but they should have added an account IMHO, and it came about 13 hours too long.
I just wanted it to work so I could download updates and prepare them for Cable.
Re:Simple question (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Advertising? (Score:1)
Re:OH NO! (Score:1)