Intel Accused by Workers of Prioritizing Chip Output Over Safety (bloomberg.com) 56
Intel compromised worker safety at some of its factories to maintain chip production in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic, according to complaints filed with government agencies and employees at one of the sites. From a report: At a plant in Chandler, Arizona, the world's largest semiconductor maker did not isolate staff that worked closely with teammates who had tested positive and did not institute tests, people who work there said. Factory managers also dismissed concerns that social-distancing guidelines were not being followed properly, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because they fear sanction by their employer. Many of these virus-related concerns were also raised in filings to state agencies that regulate workplace safety. The company said it responded with new policies to improve employee safety and kept factory output high because its products are essential.
Oh great (Score:2)
Now Intel CPUs are going to have actual viruses inside them.
Joking aside, shame on you Intel. I know you're just following Rule of Acquisition #211, but that's still abusive.
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You're a moron.
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Guys! Don't be morans! [knowyourmeme.com]
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Tell that to my the friends of mine that are dead. One was 33 and the other was 44.
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Cool, so you're the guy willing to die so I may buy the latest and greatest chip to play Call of Duty.
Thanks for volunteering!
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Oh, and while the under-60 may not be as much of a risk of dying, they do interact with older people, so being a carrier means you may pass it on to loved ons.
Just like dogs and cats can catch it as well and pass it on to their owners. (The virus doesn't affect pets)
Buy hey, it sounds like you have no relatives or anyone else you care about, so great!
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Cats can actually catch COVID-19, but it's not clear that dogs can. (I think there's been one report, perhaps two. And the test has errors.) OTOH, they can carry the virus just like a sheet of paper can. I don't know how long the virus can live in a dog's coat, but paper can carry it for 4 days at STP. (Well, actually not STP, the report said "room temperature", so you get to figure out what that means.)
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People are starting to realise that it's not worth dying so the boss can get his quality bonus. From there they start re-evaluating all sorts of other things about their jobs.
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Some people don't live in their mom's basement and need to put food on the table.
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Cool, so you're the guy willing to die so I may buy the latest and greatest chip to play Call of Duty.
Never worn a mask, never gonna. I'll take my 1-in-several-thousand chance of dying, on the very unlikely chance I get the Rona to begin with. Going to work and getting paid is good.
FFS, can people not rationally consider odds? Has this become some political thing, so people abandon all reason for tribal signalling?
Re: Oh great (Score:2)
Yet you sit in your basement arguing this day in day out. We don't belive you.
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Did you have an argument to make? That nonsense was just the tribal signalling I'm complaining about.
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The risk ... is very small, certainly not worth disrupting work over unless ... Life is not expected to be perfectly safe, and we need to be rational about risks, especially risks lower than the risk of driving.
You're a funny guy. Accepting risks? Everything not perfectly safe? Rational about things?
It's almost like you don't expect government to supply everything and control absolutely everything for you. And to control you, too, for your own safety.
What IS this, think for yourself week? We can't have that. There's an indoctrination center for that -- your neighbors will be more than happy to call them on you (I mean for you.) Remember, Facebook / Twitter / YouTube / Google / Snopes knows what's best, even
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You're a funny guy. Accepting risks? Everything not perfectly safe? Rational about things?
You're welcome to accept any risk to your own life. You just don't get to endanger others because you suddenly really want a haircut.
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Yes. Yes I do. It's called freedom. Every time I drive, I endanger others. Almost everything we do endangers others, if we set the bar low enough. We must accept de minimus harm from others t have freedom. You seem willing to trade rather a lot of freedom for an almost immeasurably small amount of safety.
Re: Oh great (Score:2)
You sound scared when you lash out disingenuously like this.
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Oh, I'm certainly scared of a government become ever-more-totalitarian over this. "Temporary" measures are never temporary. Power, once taken, is never given back. Conditioning people to stay at home when told, to not gather to protest, to stand in the line the government ordered and wear what the government requires and work only when the government allows it? That's terrifying. How is anyone OK with this stuff?
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Nobody is ok with it, but most of them haven't realized it yet. In their mind it's only temporary, that's why they're voluntarily installing tracking apps on their own smartphones.
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Clean rooms are called clean rooms for a reason.
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Yeah, my bedroom is never going to be called that.
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Not to mention further delays.
I'm fine with shutting down meat plants, I can eat rice and beans for a while. But I can't take Ivy Bridge any more, so they'll just have to get out there and make me some 10nm goodness!
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AMD is kicking Intel's ass in all categories in performance-per-dollar right now, sometimes even in performance-per-watt, I don't see why anyone would still want an Intel CPU in 2020.
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Not everyone is concerned about integer benchmarks, some of us have real work to do.
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Oh so that's how it's going to be, eh? Integers are for kids and floats are for grown-ups? /sarcasm
I'm waiting for you in Doom Eternal. I'm going to virtually kick your ass, guy!
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News flash: Intel isn't bringing 10nm to the desktop until next year with Alder Lake-S. Covid-19 or no Covid-19.
No wonder Pringles is eating their lunch (Score:2)
They're treating frontline employees in the food sector as consumables.
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The cows, pigs, and chickens ask: "What's new?"
Sorry (Score:1)
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Wait, what? Wear a surgical mask, and you protect other people, not yourself.
I mean, I have a real respirator and so-on for painting, but I'm not about to wear those to the office. Plus, they'd only protect me (filters the input, not the output) and not everyone else, so then they'd all be up in arms.
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If it isn't N95, it isn't really that effective. I can go out with a stage prop mask and everyone will think I'm responsible, while in truth I'm doing nothing to help you or others.
Ditto for people wearing scarves.
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The mask is to protect others, not yourself.
Anybody not wearing a mask is being a selfish boor, not a "unafraid MERICAN!!!!!"
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I think you should work on your karma first, or come work for my employer where you can get a cottony soft new sockpuppet with unblemished karma.
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I think Bernie is out of the race, and too old anyway. My preference would be Elizabeth Warren. But the real question is "Can the candidate beat Trump?". If the answer is no, then it's not a good choice.
Or, indeed (Score:2)
accuracy.
Air quality (Score:1)
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Errr no. They are massive facilities with a small clean room in one area, only a few parts of the process require clean air.
Don't these folks work in Bunny Suits already? (Score:2)
Worried in a Fab? Safest place to be! (Score:3)
I hope they're not talking about Fabs. Intel Fabs are like huge clean rooms. They wear the fabled bunny suits and have to go through decom doors in and out. Really? Complaining? Tell you what, the 14.7% unemployment that was just announced, give any of them a call and for what they pay people in the Fabs (not bad at all) I'm sure they'll take your place.
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Unless it's more than 55k, I'm not sure many people would want to take any jobs right now.
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Intel calls everything a fab (Score:2)
The place where processors/PCHs/Memory/FPGAs are etched into silicon wafers?
Intel calls that a Fab.
The place where the chips in the waffer are tested/cut/tdeepbinned?
For intel that's a fab too.
The place where those chips are mounted on the substrate and tested again?
Also a Fab.
And guess what? The first type of fab is only on the USoA and in Israel, meanwhile, the other two are all over the place. At some point in time, Costa Rica had one. Most are in china and Malasya.
Because, you see, silicon etching is hi
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Chandler is one of Intel's biggest facilities. Fab42 is huge. I think it's one of their 10nm fabs. Yes, they do etching. The rest of what you're referring to are packaging and testing facilities. Not sure if Chandler has that capacity.
Intel does protect it workers. (Score:2)