Revisiting the Jobs Artificial Intelligence Will Create (mit.edu) 88
Long-time Slashdot reader occidental shares a link to the audio of a new interview with the authors of the 2017 article "The Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create" Authors Paul Daugherty and H. James Wilson show that four soft skills are becoming much more valuable as human-machine collaboration advances. These skills include complex reasoning, creativity, social and emotional intelligence, and sensory perception.
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That worked so well in China, where they do not have little things like human rights or real elections to stand in the way.
As to attrition: That only works in special circumstances. In the west, it will take society with it.
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Did it work out? China's median age is higher than the US. They will not recover from negative growth. Millions of Chinese men with no wives, and no chance for children. Millions more who will have only one child. They got old before they got rich.
Future belongs to those who show up for it.
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Hmm. So you are saying this may have been a lot more sneaky and long-term than was apparent? You may have a point. Got some references to these effects, I would like to have a look. (I am not criticizing or "citation-needed"-ing.)
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The birth rate is already below replacement in most of the world. You people really need to learn some math. We are still experiencing a demographic hangover of a kind from past high birth rates. However the same exponential forces will shift to operating in the opposite direction. Even if we do nothing but keep all policy exactly the same and develop no knew technology; we will start to see sharp population contractions around the 2050s. Honestly youâ(TM)d better hope A.I. takes some jobs because
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Anonymous Coward 8 hours ago The birth rate is already below replacement in most of the world.
No.
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lolz, UBI, healthcare and tube tying cost money.
Cheaper solution, give parasites nothing, they'll either have to create wealth like the rest of us or starve. Problem solved.
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Cheaper solution, give parasites nothing, they'll either have to create wealth like the rest of us or starve. Problem solved.
That's not cheaper. They'll come take food from you, and stopping them will be more expensive than just feeding and educating them. Even if you shoot them, you have to dispose of the bodies.
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. Even if you shoot them, you have to dispose of the bodies.
Body disposal... Oh, look a new job created that some people can then become productive members of society.
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Wrong. High percentage of gun ownership where I live, more than one per adult, yet zero violent crime. Strange, no? Yet this is near Chicago, a cesspool of crime and gun violence. Guess how we would handle those that try violent shit here?
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Let me guess - with gun violence, just like them.
Doesn't sound so different to me. Perhaps they just haven't bothered to come your way yet. And when they do, they'll have as many guns as you. Good luck with that.
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You are confused, defending oneself is not legally considered gun violence.
Those scum did not spend hundreds of hours on the range, they can't hit a target 50 yards away with a handgun, like most beginners their group size is many human lengths in diameter at that distance.
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If they're hungry, they should just eat cake, right?
So 90% of the human race are excluded? (Score:4, Insightful)
Because they do not have those. This is pretty much on the level of the fairy-tales climate-change deniers tell themselves.
Only effect: Even less prepared when the inevitable happens.
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It's pretty impossible that complex reasoning, creativity, social and emotional intelligence, and sensory perception will ever be done by a machine.
I mean, all that machines can do for creativity now is create art in multiple styles including abstract weirdness like Dali [artnome.com], create photorealistic art based on crude drawings supplied as source material [pcgamesn.com], write shitty stories [theguardian.com], and create pop songs [scientificamerican.com]. There's no way that they will ever do more than that in the future, right?
I'm sure that they will never be able to s [venturebeat.com]
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"Soft skills"? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Also, I'm somewhat dubious that any kind of intelligence can be labeled as "a skill", as opposed to a trait or something.
As soon as intelligence as defined clearly, it always turns out to be something that can be developed. It's only when it's poorly defined that it seems magical.
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Has anyone ever disputed that intelligence can be developed?
Yeah, plenty of people, actually.
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As soon as intelligence is defined clearly, it always turns out to be something that can be developed into a software package.
FTFY.
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But computers don't do well on the test at all.
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Any job that is replaced by AI and automation (Score:5, Insightful)
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UBI is cheaper then paying 30-60K year to lock someone up.
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3 hots and cot + access to an doctor is better then the street.
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corporate taxes exist already
I'm not a Luddite (Score:1)
But I play one on television. Continued production of technical goodies is not an inevitable goal. For what purpose? If the present life is good, or could be made better in a non-smartphone way, why don't we do that, instead?
Read the article (Score:2)
It talks about 3 new job classes:
Trainer
Data scientists. This is that hard part. It's the part with all the math. This isn't going to be a big job creator because, well, that math is _hard_.
Explainer
Project Management job. Easy enough to do, but it'll be 1 job per product line at a company. e.g. an entire Voice Response system for a large company will generate 1 job. Smaller companies won't have this because they won't write t
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Nice summary. I concur on all parts, but would add the following about "sustainer".
This is an immediate, long term cost sink, like IT always is. So if it makes more jobs than the AI replaces then AI isn't cost effective/competitive.
I agree on the second part, but not entirely on the first part.
As we've seen a million times over, a lot of companies will buy technology and then just use it until it's well past end-of-life, with no plans to update or recover from failure.
Think of all the factories running equipment on Windows 95 boxes still. All the companies still running XP because they built an in-house app that only works in Internet Explorer. All the
Re:Read the article (Score:4, Interesting)
If the king wants to eat food, either he's growing it all himself on his estate, or he needs us to plant, pick, process, and transport that food.
Yes, once upon a time it took a lot of hands to put food on the king's table. Everyone from the farmer to the miller to the baker and all their helpers had to get rather personally involved in growing the crops and creating that sack of grain, the flour and that particular bread. Something like 90% working in the primary industries, mostly agriculture. Fast forward to today and it's down to about 2% thanks to industrialization and automation, but there's still a farmer doing the farming. Is 0% achievable? Possibly. Maybe soon there is no farmer or farmhouse, it's just a plot of land and machines owned by a faceless mega-company that'll do all the plowing and sowing and watering and fertilization and pesticides and reaping and quality checking delivering sacks of grain in a self-driving lorry to a grain mill. Same goes for the mill, bakery and grocery store - there's food, but nobody makes the food.
We are seeing the beginning of sci-fi territory where self-correcting, self-repairing machines can keep a society running whether or not the people actually have any clue what it's doing. Where the King has a new set of serfs that aren't so uppity as the old ones, of course it will take a royal court of privileged people like Michelin star chefs to design new food and those who design/maintain/repair the systems but all the rest are just nice-to-have not need-to have. While I don't think we'll have Elysium in space, it's not entirely unlikely we'll end up with something similar here on Earth. A tax heaven with all the rich people, served by robots and the best technology has to offer while everyone else need to fend for themselves. They just have to lose all the support staff they depend on today, but that's a work in progress.
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I think that's a long way off.
Michelin star chefs need Michelin star ingredients, and those come from all corners of the world, the rarer the better. It's not really feasible to have an army of millions of specialized robots geographically disbursed tending to the thousands of niche crops needed to provide gourmet food. Terrior is a problem we've not really solved fully yet, and we're not that close to being able to create growing conditions locally for anywhere near the number of animals and plants that wo
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Michelin star chefs need Michelin star ingredients, and those come from all corners of the world, the rarer the better.
I find this somehow both true and false, yes they have a tendency so use exotic, expensive ingredients like truffles, saffron and Beluga caviar. Other times it's just about using local ingredients because they're new to globetrotters, like I've eaten quite a bit of moose here in Norway without it being something super exclusive - it's $10-25 per kilo meat depending on cut. But a lot of the time it seems to be fairly mundane ingredients, prepared exceptionally well. Like it doesn't require a lot of special i
The Madness of King George (Score:2)
I don't usually play the Jurassic card, but I was there in the late nineties when George Gilder whipped the telecosm into leaping headfirst into a giant bluff of Gillette Foamy.
Question left unanswered: what are you lavishing below the elbow which requires an under
shite: accidental cross-post (Score:2)
Shite. I had two tabs open at the same time on the future of employment, and landed my comment on the wrong thread, which I've now reposted there in full with a bold header explaining my mistake.
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I thought they meant Steve (Score:2)
He is a strange loop.