Bruce Sterling's Final Prediction 162
In Bruce Sterling's final column for Wired, he summarizes the output of a survey of Net prognosticators conducted by the Pew Internet & American Life Project. The piece is peppered with Sterling's trademarked stop-you-in-your-tracks imagery. An example: "The bubble-era vision of a Utopian Internet is dented and dirty... The Lexus has collided with the olive tree, and its crumpled hulk spins in a ditch as the orchard smolders."
Batshit Insane (Score:5, Funny)
"The bubble-era vision of a Utopian Internet is dented and dirty... The Lexus has collided with the olive tree, and its crumpled hulk spins in a ditch as the orchard smolders."
This metaphor is a can of Pringles, and its vigor is enhanced by venomous ducks that flip it daily with a caterpillar that just won't shut up.
Seriously... what?
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Ugly is the new glamorous ( Uggs Boots, Paris Hilton)
Didn't you get the memo?
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Re:Batshit Insane (Score:5, Informative)
There were a few good points in there, but all in all I think that deep down inside The Lexus and the Olive Tree there was a clear and concise essay screaming to get out and being smothered by 200 pages of ad-hoc musings that were thrown in as filler.
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Re:Batshit Insane (Score:4, Informative)
While pretty much everyone agrees that the general idea of globalization is good, there's still some room for debate over whether the particulars of how its happening are actually benefitting impoverished regions or if it's just forcing them into a "race to the bottom" (and possibly dragging developed and developing nations along for the ride, too). The situation with the garment industry in Cambodia is a current popular conversation topic along this line.
I guess a (stretched) analogy would be that while it's good to let some fresh air into your house, knocking out the windows with bricks isn't necessarily the best way to do it.
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If that was your reaction to The Lexus and the Olive Tree, then for the love of all that is holy, do not read The World is Flat.
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Didn't you just describe nearly every book published?
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OTOH, if you were still in high school in 1999, the reference might not make sense.
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It's actually code language. It means: "I have the documents you requested. Meet me tomorrow night at 20:00 by the statue of Lincoln. Bring some hot chocolate."
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Re:Batshit Insane (Score:5, Funny)
"Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk."
-- Jack Handey
"Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come."
-- Matt Groening
Unfortunately, I don't think Mr Sterling was trying to be funny.
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And given these facts, I would like to make my own "final prediction": no one will care.
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metaphor (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, this stops me on the tracks alright - I'd rather the train run me over than read a book full of this lousy attempt at metaphor.
More meds, fewer metaphores, please (Score:1)
I ruined the internet while driving a chevy, thanks very much.
To gauge the Net's trajectory, the Pew Internet & American Life Project polled 742 experts for its Future of the Internet II study.
Proof that 742
A Question In Parting (Score:4, Funny)
Who is your meth dealer, and does he make house calls?
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IMHO (Score:5, Insightful)
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Wired was great once. It went down hill when the internet bubble started to grow and money went to their heads, and then went downhill as it became a catalogue of the latest gadgets to buy and puff-pieces about Hollywood movies. Until about 1996 or 7, it rocked.
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I find myself traveling around once per month, and its the one zine that you can totally engross yourself if you have no interruptions for an hour or so. Science. Technology. Culture. Totally directed to the geek technorati, and one of the last bastions of the long-form tech article that you'll find anywhere.
The writing is a little less cocky and in-your-face since the last few months, and that's a good thing. They've started to report more on the subject of the articles instead
Prediction not in TFA (Score:2, Funny)
In the future, "Wired" will not suck.
I think I still have some early vintage copies from when it first got published in the UK (~1995?). Any takers?
No, thought not.
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Wired is an overrated collection of BS. I read it for a while during the bubble extasia, found it was crap, stopped reading it. I picked up an issue (that one with the atheists) a few weeks ago to see if it had matured : in my opinion it has not. People who write for Wired should get out and do something useful.
Same here. I read it Way Back When, and now (unfortunately) we ended up with a subscription when my wife was forced to chose something as part of subscribing to Salon.com. I tried to read the first issue last night. You can't tell where the ads start and the over-graphic-ized articles begin. There's still too few words, too much "artsy" blank space. The only difference is that now there they have more ads than they used to. It's pretty much all crap. Plus the stink of the ink fumes gave me a headache after
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I dunno. I actually subscribed to it waaay early in its US career. I always found it interesting.
Sometimes, "horrible gruesome high-speed multivehicle multi-fatality accident" interesting. Sometimes, "huh, that's cool" interesting.
Kinda like the net.
Although I'm grateful for the relative immunity to online angry fruit salad [catb.org] I developed by suffering through the "cutting edge" style of Wired.
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In essence, the GP *has* created something of their own.
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Wired has some great works! (Score:2)
If there was a single adjective I'd use to describe Wired, it would be "inconsistent". Because some works of pure genius came out of Wired, too.
For example, The Transparent Society [wired.com] is perhaps the best, clear, concise description of the privacy issues we face, and has the sharpest resolution picture of the best way to approach it.
Seriously - this article was prescient when it came out (now almost exactly 10 years ago!) and has altered my opinions about freedom and pri
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"lexus and olive tree" Is a Tom Friedman reference (Score:5, Informative)
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http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/lexusolivetree.htm [thomaslfriedman.com]
Re:"lexus and olive tree" Is a Tom Friedman refere (Score:2)
From the little I read of his article it's not "stop you in the tracks" visualization, it's "I know what I'm talking about, figure it out, you uneducated peon" type of bullcrap that the "elite" use all the time. Of course ask them about it and you can usually expect more belittling. (not saying he'd do it, but most of the people who try this imagery do).
On the other hand it's indicitive of a problem so many people have (and likely why he might be
The synopsis holds true... (Score:3, Funny)
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Who do you read? (Score:2)
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The short version (Score:2)
*yawn*
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No, really? I could have sworn that's already happening.
To an extent, maybe. But I know a couple sysadmins who are able to work from home (I refuse to use pointless buzzwords) but choose not to. I just can't see many businesses or employees wanting to do this, except in fringe cases. In-person communication is usually vastly more efficient than electronic communication.
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Don't go to far the other way... (Score:2)
Just like spoken language or the printed word. Don't underestimate the influence of a (IMO) sizable improvement in humanity's ability to communication.
English 2.0 (Score:4, Funny)
I think he's using that new-fangled English 2.0 thingy.
Style (Score:2)
Lexus and the Olive Tree (Score:5, Informative)
Here is the summary:
The Lexus represents modern life, aka - globalization, the internet, computers etc etc, and our love for these things and conveinces which make our lives better.
The Olive Tree is our long standing traditions, communities, churches, families, the ties that bind us to each other and to the places we live.
I have not RTFA, but from the summary, I can see this guy is a good writer... although he does lean somewhat heavily on an informed audience.
This metaphor is actually pretty good - Our modern culture is clashing with our values, and its not pretty. Video game violence legislation, computure monotiring etc etc, all of the things we rail about on slashdot... the majority of them are a direct result of this clash.
Read the book, and understand your world better.
Don't read the book, trash authors because you don't get it, and look like an idiot.
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Probably because a pathological obsession with violence isn't the exclusive provice of "olive tree" people.
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Oh, OK. Thanks. I wasn't familiar with the reference, so when I read the statement, I thought that Mr. sterling had gone bat shit insane. Now it know that it's actually Toms Friedman that's the one who is bat shit insane.
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Modern culture? More like technology and science is clashing with moral values, which are derived from religion and a bit from tradition, but mostly sustained by the media.
Our technology and understanding of reality, right and wrong, ethics and how they are different than morals, is what is clashing against the old tired traditions of women working in the kitchen and raising the kids and men doing the hard work at the mill. Now we all sit in cubes or have most
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"The Lexus has collided with the olive tree,"
Fine. He ought to have stopped right there.
"...and its crumpled hulk spins in a ditch as the orchard smolders."
Appalling. This Lexus has collided with an olive tree so violently that it has got the orchard (not just the tree) smoldering whil
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But you don't have to have read Stephen King's "Pet Sematary" to comprehend "The soil of a man's heart is stonier!"
I think I'll "understand [my] world better" if I read Milton Friedman (the economist) in lieu of Thomas Friedman (the journalist).
Somewhere out there (Score:5, Funny)
William Gibson and Chuck Palahniuk are saying to themselves: "Oh god, *I* don't sound like that, do I?"
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(I *like* Proulx, by the way...)
I don't get it (Score:1)
Why so popular? (Score:2)
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The internet is the olive tree. In the bubble, people thought the internet was going to solve everything- probably even cure cancer. Overall, techies saw it as a great equalizer, bringing 'peace' and 'equality' to the world. Still with me?
The Lexus is big business, big money and big investments, turning the internet into tv and basically ruining it while squabbling with one another over who gets to 'own' whatever part of things.
The Lexus colliding with the olive tree is the clash of ideals between how corporations think the internet should be run and, you know, the rest of us.
He sounds pretty pissed off and worn out to me. I can't say I blame him, though.
Of course, I didn't even read TFA.
Insightful? (Score:2)
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I'm actually interested in the book now, though, so I guess it all works out in the end
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The Lexus & The Olive Tree (Score:2)
UMMMMMM (Score:2)
Yeah, thats deep.
And more people will write blogs no one will read.
Thanks for using all those words to say pretty much nothing.
And that "Lexus/Tree" metaphor is horrible, like it's Maya Angelou bad.
Bad Metaphor (Score:5, Funny)
(shamelessly stolen from someone's
Come on people (Score:3, Informative)
are slashdotters really this lazy?....wait dont answer that.
Let me introduce you all to a site you may have heard of in passing. Wikipedia, you should check it out sometime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lexus_and_the_Oli ve_Tree [wikipedia.org]
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It's nothing to do with being lazy. It's a case of having to know the answer to know there is even a question. The reference is obscure and many people will not have heard of it, and you can refer people to the source without being a smarmy git.
I'm new here, aren't I?
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are slashdotters really this lazy?....wait dont answer that.
Nobody would have anyway. =)
To make my comment a little more worthwhile, it seems as though the submitter chose the worst part of the article to put into the summary. Two metaphors ellipsied together without the content in between? Come on! Here is the original paragraph from the article:
The bubble-era vision of a utopian Internet is dented and dirty. The Pew respondents seem to agree that personal privacy is a thing of the past, and they're split nearly 50-50 on whether the costs will outweigh the benefits. Technophobic refuseniks are likely to carry out violent resistance, and they may have good reason: Out-of-control technology is a distinct risk. The Lexus has collided with the olive tree, and its crumpled hulk spins in a ditch as the orchard smolders.
It looks a little more interesting now, doesn't it?
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Thanks for the quote (Score:2)
Reminds me why I don't read Sterling. Just because you can string a lot of images together doesn't mean you should string a lot of images together.
It's the Belgrade backlash! (Score:2)
(no, this isn't off-topic; Bruce Sterling's married to Jasmina Tesanovic, an outstanding "citizen of the ghost republic" [wikipedia.org], aka Serbia, and I believe has spent a fair bit of time over there recently.)
(Hey, doesn't Slashcode cope with Unicode or non-ASCII charsets? shame!!)
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Top Ten Reasons For Being a Serb [gumbopages.com]
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I have a really excellent portrait of Tito on my wall. He's looking at me sideways as I write this... My friend Stoljan did a show under the title "Rex Mundi", with lots of old / dead dictators and autocrats - Milosevic was in there, so was Nixon, but the Tito one was more ambivalent than you might expect from that description.
Prediction of war (Score:2)
I'm just not quite sure what that has to do with the internet.
Dan East
Or... (Score:2)
Or maybe I should start hoarding extra virgin olive oil.
And extra virgins.
my predictions (Score:2)
ah slashdot. ah humanity. (is there a link?) (Score:2)
I skimmed many a screenful of incoherent ranting before it even dawned on me that the people here might not have heard of Thomas Friedman... don't you guys ever read anything but slashdot discussions? Everyone loves to complain about Thomas Friedman (his latest work pro-globalization cheer-leading being "The World is Flat"). In the circles I hand out in, the fact that he regularly has op-ed articles in the New York Tim
The Problem With Sterling as a "Pundit" (Score:2)
I appreciate his sci-fi enormously, but his other writings get old fast.
Make your point, then shut up.
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All distros should be equal.
Equal how? They hopefully will all be suited to a certain purpose, and if one distro suits business, or is one that the guy has a financial interest in, why shouldn't he be allowed to promote it? Not that I really think he sounds like a good guy from what you're saying.
I also don't see why someone shouldn't make any money off of a book that they've spent weeks of their life writing, no matter what the subject is..? If it was about how books should all be free then it could be a little hypocritical.
Th
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Wrong Bruce! (Score:4, Informative)
This is Bruce Sterling, the sci-fi author, not Bruce Perens, the OSS advocate.
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Oh yeah? So how many Bruces do you know of that had a position at Open Source Risk Management ?
I though it was about Bruce Scheiner myself.
Sarcasm?
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The next time there's a story about Bill Gates, I think I'll post a lengthy rant about my neighbor Bill who seemed like such a nice guy at first but now he's constantly leering at my wife but dammit I can't say anything about it because the rest of the neighborhood still thinks he's cool (yes, I'm making this up). And don't forget Mr. Bill, who thinks he's God's gift to clay animation - what an ego!
Mods... (Score:2)
Down this AC poster, he's not even talking about the right person.
How it got +2 interesting I'll never understand.
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