Final PS3 Launch List Shows 13 Games For America 141
Wowzer writes "Sony's PlayStation 3 is set to arrive this week on November 17th. With just 400,000 units available at launch in the USA, and an unknown number of game consoles arriving the rest of year. The total is expected to be below 1 million units in 2006, as a result many publishers have decided to delay their games so more time can be spent polishing them. From the article: 'Remember you'll have other ways to entertain yourself with the PS3 aside from it's multimedia capabilities. From day one you'll be able to download small games (plus their demos to give them a try first) and while Sony hasn't announced any specifics like price and release dates yet, count on Sony's PS3 download games like flOw & Blast Factor to be there.' From minor delays like Need for Speed: Carbon being delayed until November 20. To big launch lineup losses like MotorStorm which was delayed to March, 2007. The PS3 launch will now have 13 titles including Resistance: Fall of Man, Call of Duty 3, Genji: Days of the Blade and Ridge Racer 7."
Uhhuh (Score:3, Funny)
$600 plus frostbite to do what my computer can already do. That's fantastic. Sign me up, sir.
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Shit, you need that too? I'm in central Texas, where am I going to get frostbite?!
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I don't want to start a flamewar. It's just that sometimes I think PCs carry a certain illustion of upgradability. At some point, you junk your car and start over (forklift upgrade). I've been through the card->motherboard->cpu/memory PC upgrade dependency treadmill enou
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I threw away my last system that lines up with your current system (yes this is proof of choice and not much else). I agree on the flexibility bit but in real-
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Agreed, my next upgrade will be a complete overhaul, but if I can get 5 good years out of a rig with a few upgrades in between, I'm happy.
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Hopefully the basic system will last another few years, but yeah eventually the incremental upgradability will run out and I'll need to do another big upgrade.
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On the flipside though, the refresh cycle is much shorter in the PC world. The 360 has the r500 with unified shaders and lo and behold the r600/g80 are coming/out, evening the playing field (in a way). I'm hoping the r600 pushes the general computing nature
It will run so hot... (Score:1)
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PC's suck for the most part and beca
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Your PS3 will not retail for $600 a year from now. W
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Re:Uhhuh (Score:4, Informative)
1080i = 1920*1080(0.5) = 1036800 pixels per frame, 60FPS, meaning 62,208,000 pixels per second.
2560x1600 (progressive) = 4096000 pixels per frame. Assuming 60FPS again (standard), that is 245,760,000 pixels per second.
Unless I'm mistaken, 1080i just got owned by a scale of 3.951.
Yes, you can argue that that computer monitor and computer to run it costs a lot, but so does your 1080i HDTV and 360. Check your facts. Computer guys don't want to run 1080i because it sucks. Even a lame (by high end gaming standards) 1280*1024@60Hz beats 1080i with 78,643,200 pixels per second. There is just no comparison here. A decent computer (~1k) can run that with a cheap (sub-250 dollar) monitor.
Questions? Comments?
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I think you need to scale back your hyperbole a bit. If one goes with the new Nvidia 8800 (particularly in SLI) on your hypothetical "$3000" PC, doing PS3 level graphics at 1920x1080 will hardly be a problem. Take a look at what this card can do in Oblivion [hardocp.com] if you need more information.
Note that I'm not a PC gamer these days at all since my [already old] PC broke down and
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Yes, i feel so deprived being stuck with my super low 1280 x 1024 resolution. Did you just call linux a bloated a
Full Launch List (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Full Launch List (Score:5, Interesting)
It will take some time before the scores become more solid...
The question is can you justify spending $500/$600 for 1 good game?
1 game? (Score:2)
I don't have the other systems, so I'd be spending the money for the other games too.
How the fuck does that get modded interesting?
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bullshit (Score:2)
Bullshit. Unless you expect the whole life of the console to be what's available at launch. It is absolutely retarded.
Especially when you are comparing it to the 360 launch...
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Especially when you are comparing it to the 360 launch...
First off, I never referenced the XBox 360
Secondly, the reality of all next (new) generation systems is that they are the most expensive when they have the least ammount of content; essentially you pay a priemium in order to play the launch line-up when it is released. Certainly there will be better games released through the life
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So is that 1 exclusive game worth shelling out the $600+ entry fee OPENING WEEKEND? That's the interesting question in a discussion about the games available for a console's launch.
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So is that 1 exclusive game worth shelling out the $600+ entry fee OPENING WEEKEND?
Of course not. But that's retarded. You're not paying $600 for just the opening weekend. You're paying $600 for the console because you expect it to have the best lineup of games for the rest of it's lifespan. And unless the price drops drastically, you're only paying a little, IF ANY, extra to have it right away(eBay/scalper p
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All the h4rdc0re PC gamer d00dz do.
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You mean it won't be able to play any other games, ever?!??!??! What a rip off!!!!
Why, oh why don't they make consoles that can also play more games later? Do you hear me god? WHY?
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Yes, easily. Cuz when I'm done playing that game, I'll buy one more game, and play that. Then I'll buy one more game after that. And then another game. And then I'll get a mod chip, and pirate everything else.
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I'm not camping out to buy one or anything, but as soon as I can easily order one online, I'll be buying one... if these are still the only titles available or not.
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Riiiiidge Raaaaacer!
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Limited numbers, ports / sports only at launch... although I'm picking up a PS3 first (well.. assuming they get another batch out before year end), I think the Wii win's for best launch.
Dupe? (Score:1)
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FTFA is not a launch title.
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In the long run.... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Depending on how far out the game is, they may be more in a "wait and see" mode, waiting to decide which console to release the game on prior to starting software development.
Square's jumped consoles before - everyone assumed FFVII would be for the N64 until it was announced it would be for the PlayStation.
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While those franchises certainly helped sell systems, they're hardly what kept the PS2 running. There was only one real FF game on it before last week, two MGS games, and GTA is cross-platform.
It was the hundreds of games in between these releases that kept people buying PS2 games.
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There's an underappreciated trend for nichey or B-list games from one generation to suddenly dominate the next generation. The Metal Gear and Final Fantasy series weren't terribly well known in the West until they went 3D and became sensations on the PlayStation 1. Grand Theft Auto was a little-played top-down niche title until its PS2 incarnation became a sensation with its [non-linear sandbox gameplay | violent, explicit, exploitative content]. Notice also how one generation's top titles tend to fade:
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Wow... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm getting none of that with the PS3. As it was, the official playstation magazine a couple of months ago went nuts over the big killer-app launch title, Oblivion, and now that's delayed.
I'm sure I'll buy one eventually, but I'm certainly not upset that I didn't try to get a launch box.
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I would think hyping an exclusive title, like Resistance, would be smarter. If some kid begs his parents for Oblivion for Christmas, his parents can either wait until PS3s are available (if they are available to average consumers by Christmas), or pick up a 360 & Oblivion at the same store, right then, for less. At least if their kid is dying for Resis
Resistance is killer app (Score:5, Interesting)
Resistance looks to have a great story, and also really good multiplayer support with 40 people at once and no slowdown. Plus I have experience with the other games that publisher has worked on and I know they do a great job with control layouts and weapons.
It's the title that is making me wish it wasn't so hard to get a PS3 anytime soon... I'm not keen on waiting in line.
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Or you could, you know, wait until after Christmas and not fight in line for it. That's what I plan on doing for the Wii.
You don't have to get it OMG RIGHT NOW, you can wait. Given the massive production problems that Sony's having, you may have to wait anyway.
Who knows, if you're lucky, Sony will cut prices next year once they find the magical pixie dust required to fix their production problems. (Unfortunately it has a 0.5% drop rate on a rare spawn, so it may take a while.) Lord knows that if the
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Remind me to never sit next to you on a bus.
Pretty much my plan (Score:2)
Well, that was pretty much my plan - wait until you didn't have to be in line three days in advance, or preferably at all. I feel no need to have it this moment, though Resistance looks compelling to me...
Oblivion? (Score:2)
Resistance is definitely getting the most hype. Honestly, it didn't draw my interest at first(aka. just another shooter syndrome), but it looks like it's going to be really good, with a great story too.
That's not to say I'm disappointed I didn't preorder a PS3... I can wait. I'm still n
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And yes, PGR3 totally sold me on the 360. The whole series from Metropolis Street Racer on the Dreamcast has been one of my single favorite games and I'm a big racing game nut, s
fair 'nuff (Score:2)
I hadn't heard much about PGR3, but since you mentioned it as selling you on the 360, I checked out some vids. It does in fact look very nice. I'm not much of a racing fan myself, but now that I've actually looked at it, I understand.
I do like GT, but it is slightly too much simulation for me. Perhaps I'd enjoy PGR.
I'm not sold on the 360 y
Should Be Less (Score:3, Interesting)
Tony Hawk much faster on 360. (Score:3, Informative)
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The problem is you have to give those SPEs something to do. But it's a new programming mod
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I find it far more likely that the developer just has a much better handle on DX9 than OpenGL(which is basically what the PS3 graphics API is).
It's interesting that in this generation there seems to be higher barriers to porting than before. The PS3 with it's odd architecture and the Wii with it's odd control scheme may mean we see fewer ports... or maybe j
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Perhaps, yes. The 360 requires threaded programming to use well. The PS3 needs to be multithreaded, and those threads have to be suitable for the SPEs which have strange programming models. For example, their 'caches' don't mirror memory like normal caches, instead the they have to be explicitly managed and data moved in and out.
I find it far more likely
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I'm not sure how I feel about it. I don't really want
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Maybe Ridge Racer should have been delayed to polish it up? Check out these comparison shots of 360 vs PS3 [kotaku.com]. I was quite shocked and had to double check I was looking at the right pics for the PS3.
Surely there is some fowl play going on here because those PS3 shots look much worse!
Untold Legends: The PSP Port? (Score:2, Interesting)
That's a bit underwhelming. It's too bad that there's 1-3 total new games on that list? I don't know about Gundam or Resistance, so that's why I ask if it's 1-3.
Hopefully the games come out faster than BR movies.
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Resistance seems to be genuinely new, even if it sounds a lot like that other virus game... With Mitochondria Eve... Forget the bloody name. Grr.
What's the third one, that you were sure of? You don't mean Marvel Ultimate Alliance, do you? It's just a clone of another game, the name of which I forget. Another 'comic book heroes join together and fight in third-person overhead view'.
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Blu Ray media and release games (Score:2)
Remember: Games are Key (Score:4, Insightful)
But the more important factor is the game sales. Top two games sales were Ridge Racer 7 and Gundum at 30,000 each. Togther, that's only 60,000 games sold! Not even 1 game per system sold (lousy ebayers?) Of course, we don't have difinitive numbers on what the other 3 games available at Japan's launch are (only that they didn't reach 30,000) but we can only guess they might have made up atleast 22,000 if that (Doubt Genji sold well; check out the reviews, critics delt massive damage to that Giant Crab turd of a game.) Still, even assuming a difference made up towards one game sold per system sold, it is not hard to believe that that ratio will not make up the difference of system production costs.
Though it sold out, we're still in for quite a rollercoaster ride as the Wii (a 'strong' competitor with a better quick returns setup) steps in and the production of both console start to kick in to high gear for the USA Mega-holidays Spend-O-Rifica period. Rumors and unverified reports put PS3 second salvos in the US stores ready by the 20th (launch +3 days) and Wii at about the same time (launch +1, though these are rumors) and we can only guess they're going to be out in their bests ready for Post-Turkey day Shopping Madness.
Considering numerous games on the PS3 list are non-exclusive and exclusives like Genji have often been review, criticied and praised by Japan-launch capable news orgs, US shoppers have a lot of choice and information on the games to choose. Even if the PS3 sells out in the US, the different environment games are presented in here in the US (PCs and Xbox 360s being bigger here for things like CoD 3) could greatly impact Sony's success (in terms of profit and market share.)
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Netflix has 212 [netflix.com], and that's probably not even everything that has been released.
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I noticed after I posted that instead of 5 pages of 40, plus 10 on the first page, plus 2 on the last, it's actually (4 pages x 40) + 10 + 2 = 172. Funky layout of pages on NetFlix so I miscounted. Amazon has 164 for sale, so it sounds about right.
Still, Sony is successful if other studios produce Blu-Ray discs, because it means they didn't lose the format war. I'd also find it very hard to believe that the standards organization that spent all the money developing the
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=6
"Enterbrain, publisher of Famitsu, has revealed the the tie-in ratio of software to PlayStation 3 sales is 0.98 - less than one game per console."
Wait for it... (Score:2, Interesting)
The PS3 Paradox (Score:1)
If it's a failure, you'll be able to get one, but the software you bought it for will never materialize.
I just want to play FFXIII...
Oh wait, by the time that game comes out they'll have a cheaper, more available console. Yay!
At least Assassin's Creed is coming out for 360.
Ho Hum (Score:5, Interesting)
The launch titles play infinitely better than what was available at the Japanese PS2 launch
Mine has been running 20 hours a day since I got it home, no over heating, no game skipping, no crashes.
It's a big beast (I nearly dropped it when I was handed it over the counter as the retail box weighs a ton), but runs pretty quiet compared to my original Xbox which I only use as a MythTV frontend.
No Linux yet as we are waiting on the installer, but the good news is long term it will be possible to install any distribution that supports PPC (out of the box it supports Fedora). Bad news is that as pretty well all hardware access is via the hypervisor/virtual devices, there is no access to the GPU - yet.
Despite the wishful thinking of Nintendo/Xbox fanboys, the games I own are ALL on BluRay.
It's a really nice bit of kit, for me being able to buy a Cell dev box for 300 quid is an absolute bargain, and a fraction of what I paid for my Arm and PPC box's - and then I get to be able to play Metal Gear 4 and FFXIII too?
If you can code, are interested in non-x86 processors, and can afford one, it's a no brainer - get one.
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Can you comment on the heat? Rumor is that the PS3 produces a lot of it, and would overheat in a standard entertainment center cabinet, or sitting on a carpeted floor.
I think you're legit, but I can understand that some people will have a hard time believing you actually have a PS3.
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I'm one of the Brit's who flew to Japan to pick up a PS3, though as I lived in Tokyo for 9 years I'm staying a couple of extra weeks to see old friends. See http://www.psm3mag.com/ [psm3mag.com] I took all the photo's there and acted as the fixer to get the reporter Joel his PS3.
I gave pre-order a miss, got down to Akihabara for 5am the day before, and was second in the queue at Asobit. Despite the issues at Yodabashi and Shibuya, we had only a couple of Chinese in our queue, and they were game shop owners who had
Target Audience? (Score:1)
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I just picked up a 360. (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Sell more than they make (Score:4, Funny)
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