Fedora Core 5 Re-spins Available 55
Lxy writes "The Fedora Community released re-spins of Fedora Core 5 last Thursday. What's a respin you ask? To put it simply, all the latest updates have been patched into the install CDs, eliminating the need for a long download process after installing. You can read the press release here and of course nab the torrents here."
Great... (Score:4, Funny)
Hold on a minute....
Re:Great... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Great... (Score:3, Funny)
Imagine now the fun on support lists and forums
H4x0R_A: I just installed FC5 and nothing works
Package_Owner: what the hell are you talking about, fc5 had a working version
H4x0R_A: It doesn't work, i made a fresh install
Package_Owner: are you _sure_ that you haven't made any upgrades ?
H4xOR_A: Yes
Package_Owner: Read From The Label CD That You
Re:Great... (Score:2)
As far as whether things work or not, once you run the updater, there should be no difference between a system installed with the standard FC5 discs and a system installed with the respin. In theory, anyway.
Re:Great... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:No (Score:1)
lets see
1 the RPM Format (hint its called in full RedHat Package Manager)
2 large sections of kernel code (hint grep
3 employment for Allan Cox (one of the senior kernel people (in fact i think the 2.4 tree has a AC branch))
4 large chunks of money
Re:No (Score:1, Funny)
Re:No (Score:5, Informative)
What, aside from from contributions to the kernel, employing Linux developers (Alan Cox, anyone?) pushing the development of the ext3 filesystem... Grab the latest kernel source and grep -r for @redhat.com -- you might be surprised.
Oh, sorry, you didn't actually want an answer to that, did you?
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
Re:No (Score:1)
Re:No (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:No (Score:2)
They've contributed a great deal, including working with vendors to contribute various drivers to the kernel and x, contributed patches to the kernel, and early on an easy-to-use installer (when everyone else's installer was still purely text-based). That doesn't mean I despise Redhat any less (I hate their disorganized desktop and also the fact that they cut off the de
Re:No (Score:2)
Maybe you should look at http://sources.redhat.com/ [redhat.com].
OTOH, I agree with you somewhat. There's no fucking way I'm doing beta testing for RedHat after they pulled the old bait and switch on the Linux community. ("Oh, did you like your supported free version of our OS? Well guess what? It's gone, sucker. Oh, but you can do our beta testing for us by running our unstable bleeding-edge version.")
Regardless, RedHat has done a HELL of a lot for
Re:No (Score:1)
Re:No (Score:2, Interesting)
You've never had to maintain real production systems before have you? I believe that others have answered your question as to what RedHat has done for the community. You may want to ask yourself the same question.
Since you sound like a Gentoo Ricer to me, I just want to share my recent "emerge" experiences. I had the dubious honor of admining/updating a Gentoo system for a friend the other day. After hearing all the GFanbois going
Re:No (Score:2)
After a couple of frustrating days and a lot of reading I had enough of a handle on Gentoo to run it well on a slow box (little VIA CPU fanless system smaller than mini-ITX) but I still wouln't be game to run it on a producti
Re:No (Score:1)
Prepare Yourselves! (Score:4, Funny)
*cue Puff Daddy dancing around like his pants are falling off*
What would be nice... (Score:2)
no 'make iso'? (Score:2)
Any idea what that is? It sounds like a misfeature to me if you can't do 'make iso'. That seems like a reasonable target for automation.
Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:3, Informative)
Using pxe-boot, from tftp server, launching the initrd and kernel files from the *shock horror* pxeboot images folder! You can also boot the cd and select http/ftp/etc install or create floppies... Plenty of options.
Some files: http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/fedora/linux/co re/5/i386/os/images/pxeboot/ [pacific.net.au]
We mirror the entire fedora tree locally each night, and install from that. It's very much do-able,
Re:Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:2)
I just download the boot image, slap it on a thumbdrive and boot from that to do your network install.
Re:Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:1)
Re:Cruft, Cruft and more bloody Cruft! (Score:1)
I imagine that the recently-released respin is more intended for new users & new installations rather than for upgrading/updating an existing installation. For that, yum update should be more than sufficient. As I've just finished installing FC5 to my laptop, a fresher installation ISO would have been very welcome rather than rather large out-of-the-box updates required.
Always keep in mind, as well, that Fedora Core is a distribution prone to more package migration than others. It makes no mystery
Just DVDs (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Just DVDs (Score:1)
Other download sites (Score:3, Funny)
* Click here [haxx0r.org]
* or here [pwn3d.com]
* or here [rootkit.com]
* and finally, here [microsoft.com] (Plenty of servers, so best performance!).
HTH!
Re:ever notice how it is always the same (Score:2)
Most of the patches distros make are of third party programs, which are used by *every* distro. So unless you have special security features in your OS, like OpenBSD and certain security-driven Linux operating systems, you are likely to need the patch too - and the only reason why the se
Re:ever notice how it is always the same (Score:1)
How'd that get by me? (Score:2)
I have FC5 installed on several machines and I almost never "upgrade" from a previous version although I might do that with my network server box... still undecided. But using the same FC5 DVD to install and then let it
Re:How'd that get by me? (Score:2)
But doesn't that mean. . . (Score:2, Flamebait)
Oh I know, let's do what makes sense and call it Fedora Core 5.1 to eliminate confusion and avoid compatibility issues down the road, and potential security holes when the sysadmin grabs the wrong Fedora Core 5.0 DVD.
Oh right, that makes too much sense.
Seriously, now, why didn't they just announce Fedora Core 5.1, or at least 5.0.1?
Re:But doesn't that mean. . . (Score:3, Insightful)
In theory, if you were to take two systems, install one from the stock FC5 disc and the other from the respin disc, then run the updater on each, both systems would be identical except for your config choices.
The difference is that one system only has to download updates released since the end of May, while the other had to download updates since March. Both of them end up being Fedora Core 5.
(As far
Re:But doesn't that mean. . . (Score:3, Interesting)
"Fedora Community"? (Score:4, Interesting)
This seems misleading, since both links go to some unofficial site. Not that "unofficial" is necessarily bad, but I have no idea who these dudes are.
-Peter
Respin I want to see (Score:2)
And put the "install everything" option back in.
Unfortuantely it's political not technical (Score:3, Informative)
If you are in the USA you can help fix this - let your representatives know that the laws governing mp3 and DVD playing software are a pointless impediment. Until then Fedora since it is based in the USA must comply with weird US copyright laws that would even make bundling of Java or Acrobat too much of a headache. Meanwhile the rest of us can look at www.fedorafaq.org and no
this is a welcome move! Take it further! (Score:2, Insightful)
Everytime RedHat is mentioned... (Score:1)
use decent names! (Score:2)
Its a great idea, but it would make a world of a difference if they used names that were obvious. You know where I'm going with this, so I'll stop.
Re:use decent names! (Score:1)
Re:use decent names! (Score:1)
Or Fedora Core
i386 and x86_64 only, no ppc (PowerPC) (Score:1)
I did it (Score:1)
I assume it was only possible to release the re-spin after I had gone through the hassle of yum updating a couple of hundred packages, in the same way that I cause stock markets to drop by buying shares...
Fedora Respins (Score:1)