DDR Coming To West Virginia Schools 184
Next Generation is reporting that Konami is bringing Dance Dance Revolution to 765 state public schools in West Virginia. The move is intended to counteract the growing youth obesity problem facing the United States. From the article: "'Bringing the health benefits and enjoyment that DDR provides to school children is a great way to combat childhood obesity that is caused by the sedentary lifestyle of today's kids,' said Konami's Clara Gilbert, director of business partnerships. 'DDR has been a proven success in schools and this program with the State of West Virginia demonstrates the positive effects that can come from making DDR a part of one's daily routine. This first-of-its-kind partnership will help us continue to demonstrate the benefits of DDR to consumers around the country.'" On one hand, that's awesome. On the other, if I was still in middle school, I think DDRing in front of middle school girls would be a sure way to cause permanent psychic scarring. Update: 01/25 21:34 GMT by Z : HTML is hard. Fixed link.
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http://www.frozenhippo.com/tragic-guy,75.html [frozenhippo.com]
Will the obese play? (Score:3, Insightful)
I say instead give a standalone DDR like machine to every obese kid. That way they can sweat to the oldies (or techno or whatever) in the comfort of their own home.
Re:Will the obese play? (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't think it'll be a problem. Yeah, you move your body, but it's all about reacting quickly to stuff on the screen. I mean, basically, it's a videogame.
Re:Will the obese play? (Score:2)
If weight is the issue, I think you've identified the problem.
Re:Will the obese play? (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, if you gave each kid his own cheapo pad and SM... or even a PS2 and a pad, he won't play it. Before I started playing, I thought that DDR was some stupid game that losers with no life play (like I was one to talk).
It took some peer pressure to start, and I sucked badly. It takes some time to get the coordination before it's more a matter of speed. Obese kids are going to get bored or frustrated by that point, especially in high school. I can't imagine the ridicule that'd be directed at the "dancing bear" in gym class.
So what I'm getting at here is that these kids need a supportive environment to start playing in, much more than anything. DDR is most certainly not fun if you're new to it and uncoordinated.
Re:Will the obese play? (Score:2)
In other words, will the obese be ASHAMED of playing? i.e. if you have to go DDR, it's because YOU'RE FAT! (Insert nelson quote here)
I think that what we'd need is to get more physical education classes and give those kids a healthy balanced diet.
Hey yeah, why not having a "nutriology 101" course at the first semester?
Re:Will the obese play? (Score:2)
That said, I don't know if it's a great idea. In gym class you should be getting people exposed to team sports and outside on the field
You seem to think West Virginia is made of money (Score:2)
Rob
for christ sake (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:for christ sake (Score:2)
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I'll bite. I hated it.
The reasons are varied. I had no stamina, so of course I would tend to get picked last. Running was (and still is) a disaster whenever I try; I don't think I ever ran a mile under 10:30. Of course, early in my education, times were directly linked to grades -- they wisened up about 6th grade, or 12 years ago for me. Physical educati
Re:for christ sake (Score:2)
Actually, I have a little trouble with DDR now due to two things:
1) Being out of shape and over weight.
2) Too many years in water sports developing the wrong muscles for high impact actvity.
Or, as I like to
Re:for christ sake (Score:2)
Re:for christ sake (Score:2)
Game and pad bundle = $65 [gamestop.com] (or cheaper, if you shop around or don't get the brand new version)
Even if you buy extra games and pads...I just don't see how that adds up to $500. Or even close to it.
The arcade machine is well over the $500 mark, and I don't see most schools bothering to invest in the metal pads that would be much better for heavier usage.
"Pyschic scarring"? (Score:2, Funny)
They would visciously abuse you with the power of their MINDS. I've always suspected females were capable of this.
Seriously, though, I think you're looking for the word "mental" there.
On the other hand, standing in front :) (Score:2)
DDR as a way to fight lardasses. Hmmm, okay. Wouldn't a live action doom be faster? Double shotgun in the blubber butt should cure them.
Re:On the other hand, standing in front :) (Score:2)
Of course, I would prefer to watch women play RRR, but that's just me.
Re:On the other hand, standing in front :) (Score:2)
The damage caused by a plasic slug in the face is severe. Even a bean bag in the face, at the velocities caused by crowd-control guns, is too dangerous for P.E. class.
Re:On the other hand, standing in front :) (Score:2)
I've often thought that a combined action game/exercise machine would be a great (although expensive) product. Use a treadmill or bike as a controller - pedal or run to make the character move. Sounds like a more fun way to burn calories to me. (I should do a google search to see if anyone's done this).
Re:"Pyschic scarring"? (Score:2)
Re:"Pyschic scarring"? (Score:2)
Rob (Of course, I suppose middle-schoolers don't know how to dance anyway)
It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
What about Bill Clinton?
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
So instead you play Simon with your feet?
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
I probably couldn't read on a stationary bike, as after playing an intense set of DDR for any period of time covers my entire body in a layer of sweat. Try turning a few pages with hands constantly dripping... not very pretty.
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
A: I don't understand it too well as I don't get motion sickness as far as I've ever noticed. From what I understand, it's because your head is moving back and forth a bit while you are pedaling. Apparently some people who are susceptible to motion sickness cannot handle that while reading.
Q: "Try turning a few pages with hands constantly dripping... not very pretty.
A: "Wristbands" (They're also good for keeping sweat off your hands while lifting.)
Re:It is a surprising amount of fun... (Score:2)
But spending half an hour jumping to nowhere is ok?
The original article (Score:2, Informative)
Great.... (Score:5, Funny)
Will you be able to 'letter' in DDR? Will there be state championships?
Or will this be more like just a machine in the middle of cafeteria that no one will touch for fear of peers' redicule. I would have tried it back in the day because I had pretty much maxxed out the peer redicule I could get.
OR will it be like racketball played against a gyms collapsed bleechers for two weeks during the required PE class?
Of course, if the machine is not on free play and/or not well maintained.... I actually expect both. I'd be surprised if K didn't expect kids to dump their change into the machines like they do with the soda/snack machines next to them.
Re:Great.... (Score:2)
More in the, um, realm of figure skating, synchronized swimming, and that gymnastics thing with all the twirly flags on sticks.
Re:Great.... (Score:2)
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Re:Great.... (Score:2)
I'm not sure track should be there, but from the standpoint of teens and school sports, wrestling and soccer (if you even have a HS soccer team), Footbal
Re:Great.... (Score:2)
I listed track (track and field) because is it the sport that is most common to all American HS - more so than Football - and is typically where football players (and Cross country guys like me) were required to spend their off-season.
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Heck, my HS had a shooting club and zero-tolerance. A cased long gun wasn't considered a weapon.
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Psychologically scarring (Score:2)
All kidding aside, I don't think it matters what middle-school-aged boys do in front of girls. They'll be embarrassed in any case. This is just a good way to burn a little energy and be entertained at the same time.
Not if you know how to do it (Score:2)
Re:Psychologically scarring (Score:2)
Back in the day.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, right, kickball.
How much did it cost to play this?
The cost of a ball or nothing if you had a butcher shop willing to give you an pig's stomach.
Thank god West Virginia has been blessed with DDR. Were it not for this half a grand machine, they might go down in history as morbidly obese like their forefathers.
What? Their forefathers weren't morbidly obese? You mean, it may be possible to have fun and excersize without some company cashing in off of you? Blasphemy!
Re:Back in the day.... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Back in the day.... (Score:2)
Just mix those gradeschoolers in with the convicts on the chain gang
Re:Back in the day.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Back in the day.... (Score:2)
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Too Lazy (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
If that means exercising together, great. If it means buying a DDR game and a dance pad, that's great, too.
I'd rather have a healthy child that got that way with a video game than an unhappy and unhealthy child.
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
Any activity is better than sitting on your ass, so why not encourage it?
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
There are lots of reasons a person might not want or be able to play the team sports you listed, but still enjoy DDR. Most real sports require opponents and teammates, and they aren't always available. You can force this issue in a school, by making people play together, but that's not terrible fun if the peopl
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
& dear god a girl would ever have to play a sport in PE... They may break a nail or stub a toe...
As it stands I see DDR being a better option since it requires fewer people and a girl may
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
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Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
And the equipment for two people to play simultaneously can be a PS1/PS2 ($20-$60 used, probably), a copy of one of the DDR games ($20), two dance pads (about $20 each on the cheap end). I daresay this is less than I spent on any of my team sports in terms of cleats, sneakers, uniforms, a baseball bat, a tennis racquet, sign-ups for a league... even weights, a bi
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
Re:Too Lazy (Score:2)
Anyway, the main point was supposed to be that a working copy of DDR that can be used by two people simultaneously is about on par with what most people pay to play organized sports or work out. You're not shelling out extreme amounts of money for technogear any more than with a lot of other physical activities, and you don't see too many peop
DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:4, Insightful)
How about we stop funding these nutjobs who want to be parents to our children, no educators?
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:4, Informative)
Well this is health education and I think if it can make a difference in people's lives its worth it. Frankly, I'm using it to get back into shape and am beginning to see results and lose weight.
Also, if we take the 3Rs strictly that precludes the teaching of algebra (algebra being beyond the scope of arithmetic), computer science,and trade class, art class, geography or any other science, literary criticism... and just about anything else worth knowing.
Frankly the only nutjob here is you.
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
I don't want to fund kids jumping up and down, that is the parent's job to make sure their child is healthy, not my job.
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
Morality is a hard one. The problem lies in figuring out what should be common to everyone and what should be left to the individual's family and culture.
Most teachers don't want to be parents to their students; they want to be teachers. However, way too
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2, Interesting)
So you want the same government that promoted the Food Pyramid death trap to teach your kids how to eat and exercise? Sorry, but I'm a pro-fat pro-protein anti-sugar anti-starch kind of guy, and I know that the teachers are teaching kids that bread is good, butter is bad. It is the other way around, friend, and you're going to poison your kids with that garbage.
The problem lies in figuring out what should be common to everyone and what should be left t
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
My wife was with him. I was at our table with my other son. She had no reason to expect some kid to just lash out and punch him as he was walking by.
As for some of your other points...
Another reason parents don't have time is because they both have to work to pay for all the things they think the
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
The mess starts with government, it ends with government, and it has government in the middle too.
Re:DDR? 2/3 wrong letters (Score:2)
DDR != aerobics (Score:2)
Health Benefits!? Seriously! Has society dropped that low. Whatever happened to PE class and casual sporting. Doctors should be to blame too for not telling their patients to lose weight miraculously solving many health problems without a pill.
Less coddling more ass kicking!
Re:DDR != aerobics (Score:2)
The lower levels may be coddling, but you don't start out on the hardest step-patterns. Once you get there, and it's addictive enough to encourage advancement, it's seriously good exercise.
Get rid of "high fructose corn syrup" (Score:2)
Perhaps, we should tell
Re:Get rid of "high fructose corn syrup" (Score:2)
Low-fat foods make you FAT (Score:2)
Dieting is actually all about restricting caloric intake instead which hasn't been t
Re:Low-fat foods make you FAT (Score:2)
1 tablespoon of fat (oil, butter, mayo, etc..) 100Cal
1 oz dry pasta 100Cal
1 slice of bread 100Cal
1.5-2.5oz of meat (depending on animal) 100cal (40-70cal/oz)
5-10 oz vegetables (depending on fiber content) 100Cal.
The way I see it all diets that work control calories the differences are about making it easier to eat less calories. Atkins works because it easier to eat 800 calories of pasta, than a 12oz steak.
Re:Get rid of "high fructose corn syrup" (Score:2)
sri
Jail the parents! (Score:2)
Perhaps fear of humiliation is not the best motivation, but it certainly worked for my parents and it works for me. I'm prou
Re:Jail the parents! (Score:2)
1. Limit your assumptions to that which has been stated... then they won't be assumptions beyond your own interpretation.
2. Don't be anonymous if you want to be taken seriously.
Now on to what you've said:
In addition to other mental weaknesses, I think it's very wrong to take pills to compensate for emotional imbalances. I think fear is an important and critical component for getting along in the world. It is
Wow, it's not dead yet?! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wow, it's not dead yet?! (Score:3, Funny)
Chris Mattern
Re:Wow, it's not dead yet?! (Score:2)
Re:Wow, it's not dead yet?! (Score:2)
Seriously, the East German School system was one of the better ones. Actually, Finnland, which scores amongst the best in the PISA-Tests took a good look at East Gerrmany and learnt a lot.
Not efficient (Score:2)
Re:Not efficient (Score:2)
Screw DDR, get those kids a real game... (Score:2)
Re:Screw DDR, get those kids a real game... (Score:2)
My Highschool Has been doing this for a while .... (Score:3, Interesting)
The thing is, that almost no one ever used them
The kids who really wanted to get into shape used the weight room, treadmills, and other 'traditional' excercise machines and the kids who didn't want to get into shape weren't going to be fooled by such an obvious ploy.
We were required to wear pulse monitors and our grade depended on our average bpm (I think something around 170+ was an A
No amount of technology is ever going to get people into shape who don't want to be. Working out, almost by definition, involves hard work. People who want to get in shape will manage to regardless of how few tools are available, and people who want to avoid it will always be able to do so (in fact, I think these high tech toys are easier to cheat with).
Why is it... (Score:2)
The horror... The... Horror...
Well, about time! (Score:3, Funny)
You mean those poor buggers still had machines running with PC133? Ouch!
Exercise and obesity (Score:4, Informative)
The first was the large scale introduction of vegetable oil, often hydrogenated, into the diet, to replace animal fats. There is not, and never was, any scientific basis for exposing mass populations to dietary elements which their evolutionary history could not have prepared them for.
The second was the large scale move to a high carbohydrate diet. it was called low-fat. Low-fat sounds reasonable and uncontroversial. High carbohydrate, which is what it was, has neve been shown to improve the health of any population, and would have been very controversial if labelled as what it was.
The results of the experiments are now coming in. The evidence is that the results are increases in heart disease and diabetes and obesity. The way to solve the problem would be partially exercise, but a more important step would be going back to the diet traditionally eaten around 1900, before the great increase in heart disease. This would be a diet fairly high in animal fats, generally eaten incidentally to eating meat and poultry or dairy products, and one with (complex rather than refined) carbohydrates accounting for a much smaller percentage of calories than today. We would eat grass fed meat, fish and eggs, with fresh vegetables and butter on them, and relatively coarse, though not whole grain, bread. Olive oil would be used in cooking and salad. There would be a total lack of polyunstaturated and hydrogentated vegetable oil, and little or no refined sugar.
Exercise is fine, but exercise while eating faddish garbage is not going to solve the problem.
Just watch out for shin splints (Score:2)
That is one bit of information that doesn't get passed around enough.
Of course kids are less susceptable than us older folk, just be careful because shin splints take forever to heal (if ever). I actually built a hard DDR pad that would allow me to use shoes because I got shin splints after playing DDR for 6-8 hours a day for
Dear Governor Manchin, (Score:2)
And it's free, too!
Who needs consoles? (Score:3, Insightful)
Stupid waste of money. (Score:3, Insightful)
Want to keep their weight down? Have students sweep and clean school grounds every morning like they do in much of Asia. This will have other benefits beyond just getting exercise, in the very least you'll save money and keep the school clean. Put them through a more rigorous exercise program than the useless nonsense that passes for gym class. Obviously the existing system has its problems if they continue having obesity problems, and a bunch of video games wont change this.
How about teaching them dancing for real? It's a hell of a lot more effective than bouncing around like a fool on a giant pad and it will actually be useful outside of that game.
Where the hell do they find the people who run these schools?
Dance Dance Revolution May Help Treat ADHD (Score:3, Interesting)
Besides the obvious exercise benefits [getupmove.com], it seems that the Dance Dance Revolution video game may also help out children with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). A recent study [gamesconference.org] in which sixth-graders with ADHD played DDR Disney Mix for an hour each week suggests that playing the game improved their focus and attention, although further studies are planned to get a better understanding of how it could help kids out.
The good and the bad (Score:2)
First, the good...
The intent is to address the growing problem of youth obesity.
Now, the bad...
The games, which will run on Microsoft Xboxes...
Nothing like shoving more taxpayer money into Microsoft's coffers.
Re:Maybe, maybe not (Score:2)