"E-Jihad" Exaggerated by Russian Media Spin 244
decompiler writes "Earlier reports that cyber-terrorists would be bringing down the internet today have now been denounced as "Russian media sensationalist spin", and Jose Nazario of Arbor Networks says, "There have been no precursors to a large-scale attack.""
They lied to us! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They lied to us! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:They lied to us! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:They lied to us! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:They lied to us! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They lied to us! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Bullwinkle (Score:2)
Other Classic Exaggerations
You forgot the all-time favourite... The Millenium Bug. People actually stocked up [countdown.org] just for that one. Here's an excerpt from the link...
Re:try 99% of every country. (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, that's just great. Now I've got this image of isolated islanders wearing grass lab coats building a nuke out of bamboo and coconut milk.
Meanwhile an islander in a grass business suit is running about complaining infiltration from the "acka-ack-nunucket" island.
Thankfully I think I see Feynman swimming to shore, maybe he can save me!
"E-Jihad"? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:"E-Jihad"? (Score:2)
Re:"E-Jihad"? (Score:3, Funny)
Two things you usually don't see together (Score:5, Funny)
News Media
and
Exaggerated
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:2)
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:3, Funny)
FOX
The correct spelling is "Faux". (Score:4, Funny)
Get it right, will ya!
Grow up, eh? (Score:2)
So "growing up" somehow has something to do with not questioning what people say, going along with being mislead or deceived, or having a knee-jerk reaction to everything that falls outside your myopic world view? (These are personal observations I've made of Fox "news".) Right. No thanks; I'll stick to liberalism. Sure, all the thinking takes a lot more effort, but it's worth it in the long run.
Re:Grow up, eh? (Score:2)
Has it really never occurred to you that your remarks are a perfect example of the cliched rhetoric dragged out by every asshat ever to dismiss their critics and opponents?
Where's the substance? Where's the positive statements that showcase the benefits of your chosen "liberal" approach?
Where, in fact, is anything other than the empty r
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, who am I kidding, journalism as a profession is doomed. They may as well just give out degrees in "reporting sensationalist nonsense" and be done with it.
You forgot one (Score:2)
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:2)
Why not? They already have specific attention drawn to journalists who are gay [google.com].
Why not just make a new group to sensationalize. I don't even know why they have to separate themselves. Journalism should only be a story about the story and the journalist should be a name at the end of the column.
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:2)
Re:US media vs other countries (Score:5, Insightful)
Independent of government interests, but not independent of corporate interests.
The U.S. public broadcasters seem to have a similar flavour and freedom as the BBC.
While Fox, CNN MSNBC et. al. exist entirely for profit and they're not judged on the quality of their news, but the palatability of thier content to their advertisers. The correlation between news and the public is a secondary effect of what the networks feel the advertisers feel the public wants to see... curbed by the advertisers' tendency to not want the public to see things which make the public adverse to particular forms of spending.
There are notable exceptions to the rule, but there are a lot of big stories which go ignored on "slow news days"
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:3, Interesting)
You were already +5 funny, but I would have made you +5 insightful. The race to be first has replaced the race to get it right, with all phases of media. With so much pressure on rating, the quality of news has been replaced with as much sensationalisim that can fit in a 30 sec. sound bite. Thank (Deity) for Slashdot and Fark, so I can keep up with t
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:2)
Porch.
Re:Two things you usually don't see together (Score:2)
BTW, this site [jgeoff.com] has a full transcript of Part One. I credit my quote to that transcript.
ISC Handlers put it best (Score:5, Funny)
Diary [sans.org]:
"The ISC would like to go out on a limb and predict that the Internet will not vaporize into a cloud of nothingness this Thursday, but if it does, it's been our pleasure to help stave off its inevitable annihilation this long. "
oh crap (Score:5, Funny)
I should either:
A) Go to work.
B) Bring in some pruning shears and re-create the effect of the internet being down on a much more local scale by severing the fiber line.
Where are those shears at?
Re:oh crap (Score:2)
A) Go to work.
B) Bring in some pruning shears and re-create the effect of the internet being down on a much more local scale by severing the fiber line.
doesn't B still constitute going to work?
Ahem... (Score:4, Interesting)
Except maybe for a couple of russian jetliners going down simultaneously out of the same airport.
Re:Ahem... (Score:3, Insightful)
Obligatory... (Score:5, Funny)
wait a minute... my box gets port probed all day and I'm not even in Russia. grrrrrrrr
Re:Obligatory... (Score:5, Funny)
It's nice to see woman visit this site, but please keep those details to a minimum.
E-Terror Level (Score:5, Funny)
Re:E-Terror Level (Score:2)
Very good comment!
And in the same vein, I'd be more worried if the alert went to #663300...
..that's when it is time to get a fresh set of underwear and trousers ;-)
they already struck (Score:3, Funny)
about two weeks ago... [google.com]
E-slam? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:E-slam? (Score:2)
However, most me-slims regard the lesser e-jihad as frivolous, especially when they must still wager the increasingly difficult greater e-jihad within their own b0xen. After all, how can one rid others of the sins of Windows if one is still fighting the worms and viruses of one's own computer?
Ha! (Score:5, Funny)
NO CARRIER
I know why (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I know why (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I know why (Score:2)
Bright side (Score:5, Insightful)
A while ago, something like this would have been treated a whole lot more seriously - the fact that people (especially some of the media) are realizing not all of the stuff that comes on the net needs to make sense is a slight silver lining
Re:Bright side (Score:2, Troll)
And it only took them 9 years (give or take a few years since the web took off) to figure that fact out! Wow. At this rate, It will only be 40 more years until these "people" stop buying things from spammers.
Damn you Kaspersky lab (Score:2, Funny)
503 Error? (Score:2, Funny)
CB
Re:503 Error? (Score:3, Funny)
(wish I could be in NYC this weekend...)
CBVSD(F&*
Re:503 Error? (Score:2)
Wait a minute! That's MY job! If you are doing that, what am I supposed to do?
Oh Man (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh Man (Score:2)
Wait just a minute! (Score:4, Funny)
So in that case, the media was right. Why are we upset with them?
I think I may or may not get back to work now. Hey, at least I'm not lying.
Re:Wait just a minute! (Score:2)
Re:Wait just a minute! (Score:2)
Yeah actually... (Score:3, Funny)
Move along people nothing to see here...
Tomorrow Tom Ridge will probably announce that the United States could be under attack soon by a bunch off terrorists arriving in flying pigs...*sigh*
Re:Yeah actually... (Score:2, Funny)
The Department of Homeland Security has monitored increasing activity along with a decrease in temperature in Hell. Unable to reveal their sources, the current administration simply said "Let's just say we have credible sources in Hell that report these activities to us from time to time." As impending armageddon nears, they have added a new terror alert level, "GRAPE" which we will now observe until the end of time.
Asked to explain "GRAPE" level, a DHS representative said the best plan of act
Inverse Slashdot Effect (Score:2)
What?!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What?!? (Score:2)
Little did they know.... (Score:2)
e-jihad.com (Score:5, Funny)
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Anyone remember Eric Metcalf ? (Score:3, Insightful)
People have been predicting the end of the internet as we know it for 20 years now (remember the cutover date 20 1/2 years ago ?) and somehow it still hasn't happened.
Somehow I don't think it ever will
Re:Anyone remember Eric Metcalf ? (Score:2)
Ahem. (Score:2)
(Friendly props, Dr. J. See ya at Toor.)
--Dan
Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:3, Insightful)
I disagree with this. On the whole, the idea of cyber-terrorism is a carefully laid plan perpetuated by those who stand to gain from having a paranoid populace. Count how many times the US uses "terr'rists" to justify overreaching legislation.
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2)
How does that one saying go? "Be careful of attributing to malice what can be just as easily attributed to ignorance (stupidity?)"
There may be some element of planning, but for the most part I think that it comes down to ignorance and an utter lack of understandin
Fear the Terracist! (Score:2)
The terracist HATES our perfect platonic mountains. Their goals are to ruin the perfect geometric harmony of our hills with earth-dams. This will them to move agriculture from the sacred plains into the mountains. THIS MUST BE STOPPED. They need flatness, they cannot stand the majestry of our beautiful american landscape!
Re:Fear the Terracist! (Score:2)
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2)
It is about TERROR! It is about emotional manipulation. I'm sorry, but no matter how financially devastating a loss of internet might be, it really doesn't compare to the emotional effect of watching two towers in New York getting hit by jumbo jets
You're speaking from the point of view of an individual. I would imagine that a complete loss of internet connectivity and/or security for an extended period could be pretty terrifying to the bigwigs at a lot of America's corporations, which as we know have m
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2)
No, I'm speaking from the point of view of a human being. Things blowing up is far more terrifying that a loss of business. Sorry. Also, taking down the Internet is a very sloppy way of making a point. Ter
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2)
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:2)
I didn't mean to suggest that al-Queda is incapable of so called "cyber-terrorism." I am just saying that it doesn't fit the profile. Whatever technological savvy they do have is most likely going to used to communicate securely over the Internet rather than destroy it. Real terrorism involves high profile instances of violence, not ha
Re:Does anyone even know what terrorism is about? (Score:3, Insightful)
I know Matthew replied to this already, but I'd like to expand on it. As has been said before, "Those who ignore the past are condemned to repeat it."
Al Qaeda is doing what they do precisely because U.S. adminis
No Meltdown? (Score:2)
Russian Media (Score:2)
Re:Russian Media (Score:2)
wouldn't that be the Soviet Union 1930-today?
Re:In Soviet Russia... (Score:2)
Didn't the community predict this? (Score:2)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Slashdot Community predict yesterday that this may or may not be the outcome?
Re:Didn't the community predict this? (Score:3, Funny)
well, it did kinda happen, in a follow-up sorta way.
Re:Didn't the community predict this? (Score:2)
It's how the old saying goes (Score:2)
Well, doh. (Score:5, Insightful)
Hot news! Obvious hoax TURNS OUT TO BE HOAX!
*sigh*
Innoculation (Score:2)
There's really a fine art of preventing panic. This is part of how it's done.
--Dan
Security/Planning (Score:2)
IMHO what _is_ reasonable, that they can come up with reasonable odds over time. Maybe there _was_ an increased chance of an e-attack today and we just got lucky. Personally, I would think a guy that could name 10 days with a 10% chance of terrorism and get a resonable number right was doing _very_ good.
But Tomorrow... (Score:2, Insightful)
We now return you to your regularly scheduled spam.
What about those two aircraft? (Score:2)
Something hiccuped? (Score:2, Insightful)
what are those big spikes.... (Score:2)
I've gone e-JIHAD before! (Score:3, Funny)
I've gone Jihad electronicaly before
This was, by far, one of the cheesiest (legitimate) tactics I ever used in that game! I've won a game with nothing more than Jihad peasants!!! I'd build dozens of town centers (terrorist training facilities), and bumb rush the enemy town, burning down all of their buildings with nothing more than peasants!!!
JIHAD!!!!
*Please ignore this if you haven't played Age of Empires*
If anything brings the Internet down... (Score:2, Insightful)
Anything hackers can do can be sensed, and the appropriate code put in place to stop the leak.
I go to bed peacefully knowing the internet runs on a series of protocols that is just about as secure as knowing the English language will still exist tomorrow. Someone may misuse it, but that does not render the whole shebang moot.
As long as the Internet is the property of the commons, no one can do much harm to it.
We have a really nice series of plumbing in place now to route information
Re:If anything brings the Internet down... (Score:2)
Yes, but will the hacker already have won before your new code is in place [berkeley.edu]?
I'll agree that the lawyers/politicians are a more probable and immediate threat; they can be dangerous without having to think-- which is common enough. The skills necessary to code a well-designed multi-platform rapidly distributing worm are rare, more so when combined with either the carelessness, cluelessness, or viciousness needed t
It may not be true, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
15 minutes of fame (Score:2)
Where was the Kaboom? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Just as suspected ... (Score:2)
If Slashdot starts posting about Elvis actually being alive then I'll be disappointed in
Re:Just as suspected ... (Score:2, Funny)
2. ???
3. Prophet!
That's not a typo
Re:Terrorism anyway (Score:2, Funny)
Re:what would of happened? (Score:2, Funny)
rent pr0n videos and buy cds...[shudder]
Re:A bit of history to put things in perspective.. (Score:3, Informative)
Someone already took out 11 of the 13 Root servers a while back, Joe User didn't even notice.
Re:A bit of history to put things in perspective.. (Score:2)
Re:A bit of history to put things in perspective.. (Score:2)