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32,000 "Why I'm Tired" Emails 511

An anonymous reader writes "Slate has a story about the guy who registered tired.com in 1997 and put up on the home page "Are you tired? Tell us why." He's collected 32,000 emails from tired people, including an one from a Navy ship at sea that's too good to be fake."
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32,000 "Why I'm Tired" Emails

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  • by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <circletimessquare&gmail,com> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:11AM (#9694883) Homepage Journal
    because this story posted at 5:08 AM, EST, and I am responding at 5:10 AM

    enough said

    kudos to whomever on the slashdot staff decided to post this story at the right time for it, at least on the East Coast ;-)
  • by blowdart ( 31458 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:11AM (#9694885) Homepage
    I am about to fall asleep as I have sat up all night refreshing slashdot in an attempt to get a first post in.
  • by tonywestonuk ( 261622 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:13AM (#9694890)
    I Guess this one should survive a good slashdotting, But, just in case, here it is in all its glory!

    Are you tired?

    Are you tired?

    Tell us [mailto] why.

  • by vchoy ( 134429 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:14AM (#9694893)
    I'm so tired, so i visited the site an.... ZZZzzzZZ
  • I'm really busy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by isoprophlex ( 659648 ) * on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:14AM (#9694895)
    I'm tired... I believe i might even be in there for sending an email to that address. It really amazes me that people don't have a care in the world to about what they post on the internet, who they send it too, what harm it does, and how many people it might hurt. I've seen too many Live Journal's in my time that are just all about slanderring and nothing more or less than that. I guess it's like the MSN news site says about that site www.tired.com is that people just want to be in the spotlight, or share there story's whatever the case. I'm tired of people that want this to happen to them. There is more to life than living/ wanting to be in the spotlight, isn't there?
    • Re:I'm really busy (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Apreche ( 239272 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @07:26AM (#9695245) Homepage Journal
      Word. I am also anti-Live Journal. Sure its not Live Journal itself that is bad. It is possible to use LJ in a way that is fine. Like a normal blog for instance.

      However, the most often use of LJ I see is this. People bitch about how shitty their lives are, or they bitch and blame others about shitty daily happenings in their lives. They also obfuscate names of people and places very poorly so anyone who knows them can figure it out. Lastly they voice the opinions they don't have the balls to voice during the day to real people, because they don't hold water. They seek encouragement and sympathy from people around the world to make them feel better. Because no matter what your problem is, there is someone on the Internet who will tell you how right you are in order to make you feel not alone. And that one person telling you how right you are validates your existence despite your actual complete wrong-ness.

      The other side effect of Live Journal that makes it really bad is this. People go around reading the Live Journals of others and form sort of this behind the back society. They never say something to a person in real life anything that was said in LJ. But they keep it in mind. No longer is it necessary to gossip about people like old maids. Just go around reading LJs of everyone you know and you can get the real deal.

      I just feel that this whole culture surrounding things like Live Journal is so shallow and meaningless. I feel filthy every time someone links me to LJ and I go look at it. The same filth you feel when you accidentally look at the magazines in the checkout aisle. Just get it off me.
  • by Underholdning ( 758194 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:15AM (#9694900) Homepage Journal
    "No one bothers to write in anonymously [..] Gripes about husbands, wives, children, and commanding officers come signed with the sender's real name and address. Mike doesn't reply to these messages, and he doesn't publish them, but how do they know he won't? One theory he's encountered in his user-experience work: People trust simply designed sites."

    There's a lesson to be learned here. Less bloat, more trust!
  • Insomnia (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sunnytzu ( 629976 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:16AM (#9694902)
    Insomnia is a terrible affliction, but oddly enough it doesn't seem to be insomniacs writing into this guy, just people who have enough time to surf the web aimlessly. These people are tired of life, not tired in the needing sleep sense. They don't think they have enough time for themselves, or they just don't want to be where they are. Insomniacs don't type "tired" into their web browser, they just stay up all night trying to go to sleep.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I'm saddened that it took so many posts to mention insomnia.

      I'm saddened that when I was 12 or 13, everyone thought I was "rebelling" by staying up way too late, sleeping until the last minute, and being groggy in school.

      I'm saddened that I spent much of high school taking nortriptyline (Pamelor at first, then the generic as Pamelor grew too expensive) every night, just to get to sleep.

      I'm saddened that my doctor, somehow convinced that I was faking things, refused to issue more prescriptions.

      I'm sadden
      • I went through the same thing for most of my life... Except nobody would give me anything to help me sleep as both my parents and the doctor claimed "I just didn't want to sleep". It's hard being good at school when you never get more than 4-5 hours of sleep...

        The only thing that seems to be working without too many side-effects is smoking some good pot and drink a beer before hitting the sack... That's OK when you're 31 but how to get that when you're 12! :P
      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @07:36AM (#9695277)
        I've suffered with insomnia for the longest time, and it's killing me. I've found that the only way I can get to sleep at a decent hour, if at all, is to tear myself apart with exercise. Last week, I couldn't sleep a wink, so I left the house at dawn and walked ten miles around this relatively tiny county, just so I could get some sleep. If I don't go to the gym, I don't sleep. It's an exercise program for the sleepless.

        On my death march earlier this week, I was having mild hallucinations, the nature of which was such that I was hearing things, specifically, music. At one point, a plane flew overhead, and the sound sort of morphed into a saxophone; this could have been a genuine auditory coincidence, but then I started hearing piano chords, specifically, a diminished seventh if my ear training serves me correctly.

        My affliction is unique in that I can't so easily cope with the sleeplessness with caffiene, because the diuretic effect of it triggers a long-standing mild case of enuresis, which first, makes it even more difficult to sleep, and second, is obviously extremely embarassing (hence the AC).

        I, too, am bound to Tylenol PM, a drug that at least sates my affliction such that I can usually sleep within an hour of taking it, and then I have a half hour window in which I can sleep, because the effect passes all too quickly. If I don't capitalize on it quickly enough, I have to wait another hour.

        Since this is summer, and I'm 16, I'm presented with an unusual opportunity to avoid sleeping altogether. I've taken to staying up 24 hours at a time to work on my pet project, a fully equipped arcade cabinet, faithful down even to the coin mech. It's a lovely way to pass the time, though I'm reluctant to saw anything at odd hours, because I wouldn't want to wake my parents, who suffer from their own sleep-related ailments; my mom is an extremely light sleeper, and my dad is jetlagged with such frequency that he often finds himself sleeping in the rear storage of his Tahoe in the airport parking lot.

        It's a hard knocks' life.
      • by peterwilm ( 629084 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @07:53AM (#9695332)
        Just to make really sure: Have you tried
        • *totally* abstaining form caffeine (including coffee, tea, soft drinks)?
        • totally abstaining from alcohol
        • totally abstaining from sleeping aids(!)
        • doing some light to medium cardio activity in the morning or early afternoon (but not in the evening)
        • refraining from taking naps during the day (only one sleep interval -- at night)
        • getting up at 7 a.m. (or even earlier), no matter what
        Have you followed the above hints together and religiously for at least four weeks?
        Many insomniacs are "cured" with the above mentioned measurements.
        Additionally, has a psychiatric doctor checked you whether you suffer from clinical depression? Really severe insomnia often is a symptom of clinical depression.
        • by Anonymous Coward
          I have similar problems sleeping, and have had since I was about 14 (I'm 26 now).

          I've found that whilst the above can help sometimes they aren't garunteed to work every night.

          My doctors tried a number of things but option number 1 was always Prozac. What nonsense, they hand that out without thinking about it (in Britain anyway) and it really bugs me. No I won't take Prozac.

          However one thing I found really did make a difference was to eat a sugary snack 20 mins before trying to sleep - raising my blood
          • by wfberg ( 24378 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @09:33AM (#9696030)
            My doctors tried a number of things but option number 1 was always Prozac. What nonsense, they hand that out without thinking about it (in Britain anyway) and it really bugs me. No I won't take Prozac.

            Actually, Prozac is a selective serotonic re-uptake inhibitor. So taking it causes more serotonin to be present in the brain. Serotonin plays a very big role in your sleep patterns. In fact, one commonly marketed sleeping drug (which actually works) is L-tryptophan (a chemical also present in milk - momma told you, didn't she?), which is converted into serotonin in the body. Unfortunately it is now banned from over-the-counter sale, because of a tainted batch causing a nasty illness. You can still get it as a prescribed drug (Tryptan).

            The other thing that helped was making a routine of going to bed - always doing the same things in the same order (now it's feed the fish, go to bathroom for a wash etc, then go to straight to bed). If after 20-30 mins I'm not asleep then get up, read/do something (not video games that get adrenalin pumping) for a further 20 mins and then go through the entire routine again.

            DO NOT OVERFEED FISH. Thanks. ;-)
      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:21AM (#9695458)
        Is it posible your just a night person in a day-walkers world?

        I have come to belive that there is a small portion of the population that is geneticly predisposed to be the "night watchman". Perhaps its not as much now as when your tribe didn't want to get eaten in their sleep.
        • I thought that of myself, while I was suffering from insomnia. So I got a graveyard job, and couldn't sleep in the daytime. It wasn't until I was unemployed, and started doing web design from my home (with no real schedule at all) that I realized what it was that I needed - a 36 hour day.

          If I have no association with the outside world, I will stay awake for 26 hours, become tired, sleep for 10, and wake up feeling refreshed, energized, creative - all those things that make life so wonderful to live. Unfort

      • by merdark ( 550117 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:21AM (#9695461)
        I have had the exact same problem for most of my life. Drinking is not a good solution in the long run. I tried it, and while it does work, it also causes other problems as I'm sure you've found.

        If it helps any, here is what I've done to combat it. First, I don't drink coffee or caffine in general past 12 noon. Second, I try to keep a regular schedule. Sadly that schedule is often sleeping 1 am to 10 am, or 2 am to 11 am, but it's better than the completely random schedule I had before. Most important though, is that I can't do ANYTHING that requires significant thought after dinner (or at least 2 hours before sleeping).

        Most times I can now get to sleep within an hour, sometimes I can even sleep the whole night without waking up. Of course, occasionally I am still hit with a bout of insomnia where I lie awake for 6 hours. But all in all, I'm doing better than I used to. I guess I'm lucky to have the flexability to choose my own timetable though.

        Anyways, try to get off the chemical sleep aids, and see if you can somehow restore your circadian rythem (sleeping pattern) via repatition. Just go to sleep at a fixed time each night regardless of if you're tired, and get up 8-9 hours later, regardless of if you're tired.

        Good luck. You are not alone.
      • Run. Daily. Miles. If your body has that much excess energy then sitting on a couch and watching TV is not going to put you to sleep.
  • ... first slashdotted webpage I've ever been able to read!
  • by dm(Hannu) ( 649585 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:21AM (#9694919) Homepage
    kudos to whomever on the slashdot staff decided to post this story...

    Are you sure it is such a good idea to post this on front page of /.?

    32000 messages in 7 years? The will probably get 32000 more in the next 7 hours.

  • Work-Life Balance (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SHiFTY1000 ( 522432 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:21AM (#9694920) Homepage
    One reason that people are tired is that they are working excessive hours. Todays society risks repeating the same mistakes as the Victorian era; when children as young as ten would work alongside adults for 10 hours a day, 6 days a week.

    The eight hour day / 40 hour week was one of the Labour movements' greatest victories, but this has been largely eroded in modern professional occupations. Many people work crazy hours. There is a whole culture that working yourself and your family into the ground is a good thing.

    However some enlightened governments have strategies to deal with this- the issue of work/life balance has been big recently- check http://www.dol.govt.nz/worklife/index.asp or

    Whatever happened to the 60's notion that technology would have us working less?
    • by dtfinch ( 661405 ) *
      Whatever happened to the 60's notion that technology would have us working less?

      Employers want full time employees, unemployment is strongly discouraged, we want more and better stuff, and we have a lot more rich people to carry around.
    • by cubicledrone ( 681598 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:48AM (#9695141)
      Whatever happened to the 60's notion that technology would have us working less?

      Depends. Are you talking about the thousands of people who get fired for no reason? They're working less.

      The people who work 70 hour days trying to start their own businesses so they can afford food and light and the people who are doing four people's job because more layoffs were just announced are working more.

      Management is moving on to the salad course during the air-conditioned bonus announcement party. They're working less.

      The customers are trying to figure out the voice mail menu. They're working more.

      It would be nice if people could work less. It would be even nicer if work were pleasant instead of a giant fucking bitch-gripe grab the money contest.
    • Re:Work-Life Balance (Score:3, Informative)

      by Telex4 ( 265980 )
      There's still a strong movement in Europe to tackle this. The 40 hour working week should, in the near future, be reduced further to 36 hours.

      It's quite possible for us to reduce working hours and maintain the same levels of productivity and pay.

      Of course alongside laws on working hours, we also need to tackle the culture of working at home, on the train, on holiday, at weekends, etc.
      • Re:Work-Life Balance (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Chilles ( 79797 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @07:27AM (#9695247)
        Uhm... I think you woke up a bit too late... The trend up untill two years ago was that work weeks would drop to 36 hours. A lot of government agencies all over europe have 36 hour weeks, and in some countries there are laws forcing companies to allow 36 hour weeks if employees want them (for less pay of course).

        But now the trens is upwards again because we can't compete with the rest of the world if we only work 36 hours a week (or so they say).
        this story about siemens increasing the work week of it's german workforce. [dw-world.de]
        If you're going into negotiations with your employer now I'd pray he had his head in the sand the last few months.
  • Suicide Notes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:27AM (#9694939)
    Wonder how many suicide notes the guy has received over the years?
  • Navy ship email (Score:5, Informative)

    by phalse phace ( 454635 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:31AM (#9694951)
    "Tired of being in the navy and on a fucking ship in the middle of the god damn ocean with 400 of my not so closest friends who dont bathe as regular as normal folk should. Tired of my ugly little toe. Tired of wonderring why my bellybutton smells like cheese. Tired of masturbating into a pack of bologna. Tired of wondering what my man chowder tastes like and if I did taste it, would anyone think differently of me? Tired of you."

    Okay. Now that's just disgusting.

  • mm (Score:2, Funny)

    by laserbeak ( 794029 )
    interesting, all we need now is awake.com, send us your emails why you are awake, it will (we have been told) cure cancer and solve world hunger!
  • No! (Score:2, Funny)

    by imidan ( 559239 )
    No, really. Why are people tired? Can we see the answers, or do we just have to click on the mailto link and bare our souls? What's going on here? It's a government conspiracy! They want to hear our deepest fears so they can make them real and make us into zombies!
    • I've got a great idea for my own site. People will trust it and submit because nothing will ever get posted back. It'll say "Got nice boobs? Let us see.". Not sure what to call the domain though.
      • Re:No! (Score:3, Informative)

        by fuzzybunny ( 112938 )
        Been done--http://www.flashyourrack.com

        The problem is that, unlike with the tired mails, you actually want to _look_ at the stuff you get. And there, of course, you run the risk of running into the rack-flashing equivalent of really bad "I'm tired" nonsense. And that's not necessarily something I need to see when I'm too tired to deal with anatomical catastrophes.
  • by jmitchel!jmitchel.co ( 254506 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:37AM (#9694971)
    Support desk woke me up an hour ago, presumably becuase they couldn't be bothered to wake up the person responsible.

    Damn 24x7x365 availability... they'll be trying to page me out even after I'm dead.
  • I'm tired of trolls and kiddies who think that saying FP is cool.
  • Web design (Score:2, Interesting)

    by eelke_klein ( 676038 )

    A lot of webdesigner should take a lot at this site. It's clear, has no distracting elements, is fast to download and serves it's purpose perfectly. Unlike many other sites out there.

  • we're all tired (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dncsky1530 ( 711564 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:43AM (#9694988) Homepage
    Whats really interesting about this is that after seven years the guy who owns that domain hasn't changed it one bit. the domain itself is worth alot of money amd there aren't even any ads on the site. At the height of the dot com era he could of sold the domain for tens of thousands od dollars. I think thats the real story here.

    I'm tired because I just woke up after 12 hours of sleep.

  • Spam? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ebrandsberg ( 75344 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:47AM (#9694997)
    How much of the 32K messages were spam? If he registered that e-mail address, I would guess most of it.
  • Cause to rejoice (Score:5, Interesting)

    by xxSOUL_EATERxx ( 549142 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:48AM (#9694998)
    If you ask me, this is cause to rejoice. As much for what this website is not as for what it is. This site is not some multimillion-dollar-making scheme, nor is it one person's springboard to "international fame". It is a simple site asking a simple question, and offering a simple, almost insignificant service. A tiny chance to vent, just for a moment. Yet 32,000 souls have bitched, ranted, whined, moaned, and otherwise unburdened themselves.

    So what, one might ask. Why is this reason to make merry? Because of the connection. The site makes its plea, and people give what they have, leaving their hearts just a tiny bit lighter. People reaching out to each other across the void, to total strangers, in a trusting bond of shared service.

    We live in dark times. Madmen think nothing of murdering thousands to advance their creeds, wars rage across the globe, slaughtering the children of nations from the richest to the poorest. Human greed and shortsightedness have afflicted the globe with pollution and plagues. Still, the shadows have not stifled all hope; there is light, creeping in around the edges of the dark, showing the way out: somewhere there is a mail server that has received 32,000 (and counting) emails. 32,000 instances of basic unselfish sharing. Power of the human spirit, my friends.
  • by MichaelCrawford ( 610140 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:50AM (#9695002) Homepage Journal
    I sleep more than anyone else I know, and have done so all my life, even when I was very young. (My mother told me that when I was a newborn, still in the hospital, I didn't like to be awakened for my feedings.)

    However, I often stay up all night, and have gone as long as five days without sleeping. The longest I've slept in one shot is 29 hours.

    I have a hell of a time getting out of bed each day. It is endlessly frustrating to my wife, who would like me to share her much more regular hours. I always feel like I've been hit by a truck, when I wake up. My wife never used to understand why I would protest that I was tired, after waking up from fourteen hours of sleep.

    I went to a sleep specialist, and had two sleep studies done, and was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea. The continuous positive air pressure machine that the doctor prescribed helped, but did not solve the problem.

    Apnea is often caused by being overweight, and at the time I weighed 250 lbs, but I managed to lose 50 lbs and I don't think I have the apnea anymore. I still sleep very irregularly though.

    It's a primary reason I am self-employed as a consultant. I don't think I could hold a job anymore, where I had to show up at any particular time.

    It's 7 am where I am, and I've been working since midnight, and feeling great, but after getting out of bed yesterday afternoon I felt like hell and just wanted to take a nap until I came alive late into the night.

    I don't think I have a circadian rhythm, at least not like other people.

    • by Xiver ( 13712 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:21AM (#9695460)
      I used to have obstructive sleep apnea. No matter how much sleep I had I still woke up tired. I was pretty overweight and sleeping next to me was like sleeping next to a chainsaw. In 2000 my oldest daughter was born and since I was already suffering from severe sleep apnea the first two weeks with her at home almost drove me over the edge. I was falling asleep at work, while driving, and even while talking a few times. I started to develop narcolepsy and even had a couple of hallucinations. When I finally went to the doctor and had a sleep study done they said that I was waking up 72 times an hour! I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea. The doctor tried a few different pressures and types of breathing machines and determined that I would be best suited with a bypap(sp?) machine. The bypap is has a different pressure for inhalation than it does for exhalation.

      At first the bypap(sp?) machine seemed like a huge pain in the butt. I had to wear that stupid mask at night and listen to the machine, but my snoring had stopped, which my wife assured me was reason enough to use the machine. For the first two weeks I really didn't feel any different I was tired all of the time and missing out on my young daughters early antics. Then one morning I woke up and realized that I wasn't tired anymore. It was unbelievable. I used the bypap machine for 6 months before the inside of my nose became so raw that sleeping with it became almost impossible. I often had nightmares that someone was going to take the bypap away and my life would go back to what it was before.

      In the 6 months that I was on the bypap I lost 30 lbs and was enjoying life in a way I had not been able to since I was a teenager. Since sleeping with the bypap machine was beginning to become unbearable I decided to see a doctor about having some kind of surgery, so I would not have to sleep with a machine for the rest of my life. They scheduled me for surgery and a short time later I had widened sinus passages, no adenoids, no tonsils, and much less of a palette in the back of my throat. The two weeks after the surgery really sucked, I couldn't even drink water for 4 days. I was constantly coughing up blood and required an IV and home health to administer the much desired pain medication. After two weeks I was feeling much better and had lost another 20 pounds. It didn't take long to lose 10 more and become a bit more active. I've bounced around a bit since then, but I've never gained more than 20 pounds of the weight back and since I've started exercising it looks like I might drop another 10 - 15 pounds.

      My life has never been better, I'm not tired, I don't fall asleep, and my wife doesn't have to elbow me at night as much anymore. If the cpap didn't help you sleep you should give it another shot. I say it will be at least two weeks before your body and mind recover from sleep depravation. I'm sure you also know the consequences of ignoring sleep apnea, which include increased risk of heart attack, increased risk of stroke, and narcolepsy.

      I thought pretty much as you did that the sleep cycles that I had were just normal for me, but believe me you don't know what you are missing with a regular sleeping pattern. I was an all night gamer and worker. The only time I could stay awake was when I was really focused on something like programming or video games. Now I can still game all night and sleep late if my wife lets me...err I mean if I want too, but I also have the benefit of being able to live an alter, happy, and somewhat normal life.
  • by Doogie5526 ( 737968 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @05:54AM (#9695014) Homepage
    ... and he still has just a placeholder for the site (and I thought I procrastinated)
  • tired (Score:5, Insightful)

    by manavendra ( 688020 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:09AM (#9695052) Homepage Journal
    I think there is a common list of things which "tires" people:

    1. Being stuck in a job - a LOT more people than they care to admit are into jobs they don't really like. Jobs that are no longer challenging. Or exciting. Jobs that are going nowhere. This is the primary reason for being tired, because the entire life, one day at time, is structured around the job - from sleep cycles, to time to be spent with family, take to wake up, etc. And it is very tiring and taxing, when this very job, isn't what one would really want to do.

    2. Relationship - the less said, the better. Not every relation is pleasant. And by relationship, I don't just mean a boy/girl relationship. Relationship with the wife. with the kids. people at work. Neighbours. Between two nations. And it's so funny because though we all say "man is a social animal", this is precisely what we aren't taught - how to socialize, or how to maintain in a relationship. Or just be in a relationship. being tolerant. We are not taught that, but of course a whole load of algebra and trignometry, that finds no direct use in most lives.

    Just these two are so crucial factors in defining the happiness and well being of each person.

    For all weapons of mass destruction there may or may not be in the world, whether the world is safe or not, masses are mostly unhappy and hence "tired". And hence they find or try to find outlets to get of this tiredness. Whatever it may be.

    Whoaa.. I've surprised myself I think!
  • Why? (Score:5, Funny)

    by the_rev_matt ( 239420 ) <slashbotNO@SPAMrevmatt.com> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:13AM (#9695071) Homepage
    I have a 6 month old daughter.

    A friend of mine said yesterday that he woke up at 4.30 and couldn't get back to sleep. I simply replied "As a parent, I can only say 'Screw you'."
    • Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Max Romantschuk ( 132276 ) <max@romantschuk.fi> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:57AM (#9695176) Homepage
      I have a 6 month old daughter.

      A friend of mine said yesterday that he woke up at 4.30 and couldn't get back to sleep. I simply replied "As a parent, I can only say 'Screw you'."

      I have four month old twins.

      I bike to work, 12 miles every day.

      I have not had to tell anyone to screw themselves.

      I do get tired on occation, and I do feel down every now and then... but I doubt telling people to screw themselves would make me feel any better.

      Try looking at the good things, concentrating on the bad stuff will only serve to make you bitter.

      Besides, given that your friend had a different basis of comparison, his lack of sleep might have been a major issue for him. Stuff like this is always subjective, and trying to compare who has it harder is ofter rather pointless.
  • by Teunis ( 678244 ) <teunis@nOsPAm.wintersgift.com> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:15AM (#9695076) Homepage Journal
    If anyone out there's read "Shockwave Rider" this story reminds me of "Hearing Aid" - a service where people can phone in and gripe and have someone listen... but not answer.
    An amazing service really...
  • by bigHairyDog ( 686475 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @06:54AM (#9695162)

    nearly 100 in the first week, a rate that's continued steadily for almost seven years, neither rising nor falling with the growth of the Net

    Man is that about to change...

  • by agslashdot ( 574098 ) <`sundararaman.krishnan' `at' `gmail.com'> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:03AM (#9695379)
    The #1 reason why most of us are tired is the nature of work. Corporate IT is the most soul-sucking stultifying chore I've encountered in my entire life. I just couldn't bring myself to wake up until 9am, and then I would rush to work, a tiring commute, be tired all day & then go back to sleep, tired again. It was just so boringly repititive & mindnumbing. And its not one company or one set of colleagues - I've switched jobs several times & inevitably it ends up the same.

    Finally I had the courage to save up some cash, quit IT for good, and "find myself". Introspection is so hard less than 1% of the planet indulges in it. It can reveal so many unpleasant truths about you. Like the fact that no matter how skilled I was, I was never going to fit in as a corporate whore anywhere.

    When I finally took the plunge & did what I really wanted to do all along, there was no going back. Since then I've been so upbeat, so frighteningly happy, its scary. I've never worked so hard as in the past few months. It is both physically & mentally gruelling, but I never felt tired.

    All you got to do is grow some balls, figure out what you really want to do, & then go do it. And yes, the nest egg is important.
  • by TardisX ( 15222 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:05AM (#9695391)
    In seven years he hasn't yet gotten around to putting the closing </html> on the web page.
  • by ScottSpeaks! ( 707844 ) * on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:36AM (#9695545) Homepage Journal
    I'd never thought of that. I'll have to give it a try! This is why the Web is such a wonderful thing: you learn so many useful things!
  • I'm tired (Score:3, Interesting)

    by confused one ( 671304 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @08:40AM (#9695573)
    because at 15 I was homeless.
    At 18 I was accepted to college because I graduated 13th in my class 3.9gpa anyway (still homeless).
    At 20 I had to leave college, go home to work, to save my sisters from my parents.
    at 25 got married.
    at 27 found out wife had lupus & rheumatoid
    At 27 I went back to college while working full time.
    at 30 I had cancer & had to drop out of school (again) also went bankrupt and lost all savings
    at 35, have no home of my own, still have no degree so work for slave wages at the only job(s) I can find (since most companies just toss my resume, given the lack of degree). Can't quit job & finish school because wife NEEDS my medical insurance. Can't start own company either for same reason.

    life sucks and I'm very tired of it

    Note to self, post this anonymously.... Screw it, don't care who knows.

    • Re:I'm tired (Score:5, Insightful)

      by His name cannot be s ( 16831 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @10:14AM (#9696457) Journal
      I'm tired too.

      Of people using their "I'm trapped in my job/life because $BOGUS_REASON"

      I'm in my thirties. I graduated with a 80ish average in high school. I dunno what that even hits on the GPA-o-meter.

      I've never held a job for more than 30ish months.

      I never went to college.

      I make $150K a year as a sofware development consultant.

      The companies are not tossing your resume because it lacks a degree.

      They are tossing it because you haven't expressed anything to them that they want.

      Do yourself a favor. Learn to sell. Get a partime job as a salesman in a commission based job--even grow into it fulltime. You will certainly make better money than slave. Go to the library. Read Books by Zig Zigler, Dale Carnegie and the like. Once you are able to sell crap TVs and "Extended Warranties" and make 3-5K a month, you are ready to Get a real job without a Degree.

      At 35, a degree is a useless peice of paper that will not get you a job. You are old enough to get there on your merits.

      If a 35 year old came to me with only his newly minted degree as his sole reason for being hired, I'd show em the door faster than Anna Nicole Smith wolfs down a cheeseburger.

    • Re:I'm tired (Score:3, Informative)

      by Fnkmaster ( 89084 )
      That does royally suck, but you're not the only one who's had life, and particuarly family health issues, unpleasantly get in the way of career and success. I have had to temporarily stop working full-time to help take care of my mother several times due to her illness (yes, I can afford help, but that only goes so far with repeated lengthy hospitalizations, surgery in different states and so on). In my case, I don't think it will make a long term impact on my career plans, once I get back in the swing of
  • by WebMasterJoe ( 253077 ) <joe@@@joestoner...com> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @09:14AM (#9695827) Homepage Journal
    I'm tired of bologna and cheese now, thanks.
  • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @11:09AM (#9696987) Homepage Journal
    Being interrupted. My boss has undiagnosed ADHD; he loves being interrupted. He found a brand of cordless phone whose ring volume can be set high enough to be literally painful if you are sitting next to them. He was so delighted he bought a bunch of them and has distributed them throughout the office. Often if I've got into a "flow" state where I'm really productive, one of these things that have been . I turn the volume down on these things, but when he notices he'll turn them up again.

    Meetings are taking forever because these damn things keep going off. My programming staff is becoming mutinous. The idea behind these phones is that he wants people calling in to be able to get a hold of people quickly, but it's backfired because I've had to let most of my staff work from home three days a week so they can get stuff done. Productivity is down; the boss wants to hire more programmers, and I'm trying to convince him to hire a receptionist instead.

    Seriously, getting started is the hardest part of any task. If you are constantly interrupted, you're constantly revisiting the most difficult phases of any task. Even if you are doing things that are easy it takes a toll. Getting buckled down to do something hard is nearly impossible.

    Conversely, even hard things are easy, if you can get started and stick with them.

  • Why I'm tired (Score:3, Insightful)

    by trainsnpep ( 608418 ) <mikebenza@NosPAm.gmail.com> on Wednesday July 14, 2004 @12:48PM (#9698011)
    Here's a copy of what I wrote to tired@tired.com I wrote this a few months ago. I'm going to be a senior in high school next year. Publish it for all I care. Just leave out my name. My story is identification enough.

    I'm tired of being the guy everyone turns to for help.

    I'm tired of fixing your computer, I'm tired of setting up this web site for you, I'm tired of undoing all the malware which you said, "Yes, I'd love to have everything installed from Spyware Incorporated automatically." Hundreds of people casually say, "Hey Mike, you're good with computers....." and explain to me what's wrong. Well, fuck off. Seriously, you got yourself into the mess, and if everyone I knew hadn't asked me at some point to help them on their computer, I'd do it. But it's obvious that a lot of people are fucking up their computers, so don't fuck up yours!

    I'm tired of spending three hours letting you talk to me about your adonis. He's 6 years older than you. He probably didn't notice you. I'm tired of listening to you bitch and moan about how this guy you're kinda with is in Italy for the month. I'm tired of listening to you. Why don't you listen to me? There's a grand total of three people who I can talk to, who listen to me, what I have to say, what I have to get off my chest (thanks Steph, Karen, and Leah). Everyone else are ingrates. They know I keep secrets. Hell, I could make some of you so embarassed you'd go to a different school considering some of the things I've been told.

    I'm tired of authoritative positions. I'll accept the responsibility, beacause for the most part, I don't have any trouble handling it, and it brings me out of the ranks of idiots. I just have trouble dealing with idiots once I'm in that authoritative. I'm tired of people criticizing me for not doing a job they've never even attempted properly. I'd like to see you try to manage a bunch of bumbling idiots with below average IQs who resent the fact that I'm in a management position. During the school year, I'd like to see you juggle a 30-hour-a-week-job, 10 hours a week on yearbook, 10 hours a week on stage crew, and AP and IB courses. The summer is my down time, the only time I'm not tired.

    I'd like to see you all try. Yet, I'm still friends with you, because I'm nice. There are three people who I get something back from. You three are angels. I'm tired of everyone else, demons, devils, usurpers. You suck up my advice, you plead with me to help you. You bitch and moan about why I need to help you, why you need this so much. I'm. Fucking. Tired. Go spend some money, which you don't even make, it's usually daddy's money, and pay someone to help you. It's amazing what happens when you realize you can't rely on nice people anymore.

    Is there anyone else out there who has to deal with this? The majority of the /. community, I'd say is smarter than average, and has to deal with some of the things I've mentioned. Anyone the person who people confide in? Anyone the 17 year old who got a promotion to head cashier (or something similar) in 7 months when people who have been working for 5 years haven't? I know I bring my work upon myself, but I feel I'm not being paid back for my work.

    • Re:Why I'm tired (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Sebastopol ( 189276 )
      Sounds like my highschool experience, except move the 10 hours of yearbook on to the 10 hours of stage crew (sound director junior year). I worked 24 hours a week, not 30, that would have made a big difference in my sanity.

      People will always pester you for being competent. That's one thing you don't want to spoil. Don't become a prick computer guru who think's his shyt don't stink. Just be practical, don't jump through hoops, but don't blow them off. This will benefit you later in life (how you get al
    • Re:Why I'm tired (Score:3, Insightful)

      by syrinx ( 106469 )
      The majority of the /. community, I'd say is smarter than average

      Don't browse at -1, do you? ;)

Honesty pays, but it doesn't seem to pay enough to suit some people. -- F.M. Hubbard