Happy 35th birthday, RFC 1! 215
An anonymous reader writes "On April 7th, 1969, the first ever RFC was published, describing the networking technology behind the then-nascent ARPAnet. In the intervening 35 years, networking technology has come a long way, but it brings perspective to the modern Internet to reflect on how it all began."
First RFC ! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:First RFC ! (Score:2)
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Re:First RFC ! (Score:2)
Re:What If? (Score:4, Funny)
Just imagine what a "First Post" thread would look:
- Fris Psot! (by Johny the Troll)
- Johny, I told you a million time not to annoy the nice people on Slashdot. Now go do you're homework!. (by Johny's Mother)
- oh mom, I'll do it after dinner.
- Now listen here young man, you'll do as you're told or do I have to send your father an e-mail?
Re:What If? (Score:2)
Strange (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Strange (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm probably burning karma with this post but i think its completely unfair that that post got knocked down.
Re:Strange (Score:5, Funny)
i think you're confusing the subject of this story with the lesser-known RFK.
request for karma
Re:Strange (Score:2)
Now what does the late President's late brother have to do with anything? He didn't invent the Internet, did he?
(Robert F. Kennedy, for those who don't know their American history...)
Re:Strange (Score:1)
Re:Strange (Score:5, Informative)
RFC 0825 - Request for comments on Requests For Comments [slashdot.org]
prefirst (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Strange (Score:2)
0003 Documentation conventions. S.D. Crocker. Apr-09-1969. (Format:
TXT=2323 bytes) (Obsoleted by RFC0010) (Status: UNKNOWN)
Re:starting with the definition. (Score:2)
So you don't use zero-based numbering because "most people can't handle it" and yet for the layout, you choose RFC-style 72-char/line plain text?!? Will most of your target audiences be reading these documents on a text-mode dumb terminal?
You must think you're real
Too late (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Too late (Score:5, Interesting)
It's never too late, but your comments may not draw much serious attention.
I'm curious which model of Teletype they were using, back in 1969. My father still has a few Model 14 and I first used 33's on a visit to a corporate sponsor of my Explorer Post. I always did like the font from the Model 43, I used to run off most of my library copies of code on them for the easy to read font.
Ah the smell of printer ribbon ink in the spring...
teletype models (Score:4, Informative)
The Model 33 and Model 35 were upper case only; the lower case Model 37 came later.
John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)
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Re:I have a very important question. (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:I have a very important question. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh oh... (Score:2)
Re:I have a very important question. (Score:2)
How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Goodbye, time. It flees.
More like 14-15 here... (Score:2)
Sigh I remember then how downloading images (hell, even
Kjella
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
User: "Yeah, I was on the phone with my vendor and sent them a critical document. I stayed on the phone and they didn't receive it. We waited several minutes and nothing! Is the In
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:3, Funny)
ah, the good ol' days...
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
This crop of young 'uns that don't remember the text-only internet!
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
I also rooted the Unix box at work (an IBM 6150 RT running AIX 3.something) due to a really trivial root password (it wasn't a computer job, but in the idle moments, I started learning Unix on that machine. Mainly by trying to see what each command did. Whilst logged in as root! It was great fun when I discovered 'wall'. Good job I didn't experimentally try rm -rf *
Ah, the days be
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
I believe it was when I got 16 that Compuserve started with mailing those CD's with a free day of internet access. I got a few (dozen) of those and so managed to get several weeks of free internet access @ 14k400bps.
Later I got a free month of internet access through Planet internet and after that month I got my first real account @ 56Kbps.
And about 2 years ago I switched
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
Before that, BBSs. Mostly WWIV, Nightline, and a few other types of software. I helped set up a Fidonet once, which had a crossover into the 'Net, and another time, was a tec
Re:How old was it when YOU first got on the net? (Score:2)
April 7th, 1969 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:5, Funny)
what did they use for a base before 1970?
A black and white camera looking at a sundial in the Berkeley campus.
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:5, Funny)
Well, back then, all their base weren't belong to...^H^H^H^H
Well, there were no bases to belong to...us...back^H^H^H^H
In the '60s, all their bases were belong to them...^H^H^H^H
Oh, forget it. I'll never be 'Slashdot funny'.
Belloc
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:2)
An answer to your question can be found in the TUHS archive [tuhs.org]. Once inside an archive mirror look for the Readme in the directory PDP-11/Distributions/research/1972_stuff for this quote
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:April 7th, 1969 (Score:2)
RFC 1 - 8 months BE (Before Epoch)
Interesting
Which technology do you mean exactly? (Score:1, Interesting)
RTF[AM] (Score:2)
RTFA (or RTFM). It's an RFC for the IMP networking protocol. It looks like layers 2-4 all in one!
Re:Which technology do you mean exactly? (Score:2)
I'm no expert on this, but I believe the modern RJ11 wall jack came into widespread use in the U.S. in the 1960's or 70's. (I remember seeing them for the first time as a kid.) Before that the standard removable connector was a largish plug with four round prongs in a trapezoidal arrangement (so it could only go on one way). In Bell's
Hrmmm... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hrmmm... (Score:1, Funny)
Wow, creation story of the internet (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Wow, creation story of the internet (Score:3, Interesting)
How about this one:
RFC 799 - Internet name domains [faqs.org] (September 1981)
"In the long run, it will not be practicable for every internet
host to include all internet hosts in its name-address tables."
Re:Wow, creation story of the internet (Score:3, Interesting)
An important one.
IMHO, probably one of the most important and most well-known is RFC 822 [faqs.org].
Even though HTTP is used even more than SMTP these days it wasn't always so. I kept hearing no end of RFC 822, the Dcc field, etc. in the old days.
From a history of the Internet perspective I have to wonder when it was that port 80 traffic overtook port 25.
Interesting tidbits (Score:2)
RFC 25, 1969/10/30 says: ("links" are in essence TCP ports/connections)
How things have changed...
Yet Another Dup... Come on, Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
RP
And I'm still using it (Score:4, Funny)
If Steve Crocker had been a *real* programmer... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:If Steve Crocker had been a *real* programmer.. (Score:5, Funny)
But 0! (zero factorial) is equal to 1 [mathforum.org], so what's your problem?
If you meant RFC0, I'm working on that right now, and it will be published in 1967 as soon as I can get this flux capacitor to work...
Re:If Steve Crocker had been a *real* programmer.. (Score:2)
I see a movie in this (Score:1, Funny)
...and IBM/360 is 40 today (Score:5, Informative)
And some great RFCs followed... (Score:2, Funny)
RFC 1149: A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers
'Lincoln Wand' = stylus? (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.packet.cc/files/lincoln-wand.html
Re:'Lincoln Wand' = stylus? (Score:2)
I had never heard of it before either, but if you read more carefully [packet.cc], it appears that the Lincoln Wand is more like a 3D mouse. It's basically an ultrasonic microphone that picks up signals from four ultrasound transmitters--the delay caused by the speed of sound is used to determine the wand's location in space. A quote:
Re:'Lincoln Wand' = stylus? (Score:2)
Am I the only one who misread this as being a penis-sized wand? Now -that- would make for an interesting input device.....though probably most effective for navigating through pr0n.
More on RFCs (Score:5, Informative)
Question from the ignorant. (Score:2)
Re:Question from the ignorant. (Score:5, Interesting)
what we have now is not necessarily The Connected Internet as it was known and loved in the 80s and early 90s. but it should remain as such, controlled by the users, not a bunch of pinheaded goddamned government know-nothings pushing alternate agendas.
Re:Question from the ignorant. (Score:3, Insightful)
This process stands today because it works - not perfectly, but we all benefit from the paradigm. It is our responsibility as members (and some of us profe
RFC 1 (Score:1, Funny)
Interesting note at the end (Score:4, Insightful)
It may be hard to imagine, but back then CRT terminals were a rare beast. Most machine interaction was done via Teletype, punch cards, and line printers.
Re:Interesting note at the end (Score:2)
I was forced to learn when they junked the teletypes.
Suddenly I dont feel so "old" (Score:2)
I guess that explains why I like to be online all the time ^ ^
A bit off-topic, I know, but it's nice to know I'm close to the birth of something nifty
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A couple weeks late? (Score:1)
Sure RFC 1's 35... (Score:5, Funny)
amazing linked to article (Score:4, Insightful)
3 or os images and 5K of text, hell, even my little p200 'what the hell, it can run linux' can handle that.
This isn't really related to the post, but I find it very interesting the fact that in almost all things, the simplest answers are usually correct.
1. Built HTML that is simple enough to be read by lynx and you'll have a very readable, universally accessable, highly portable and translatable site.
2. Built a simple system of relaying packets with some transport validation mechanism (TCP) and it will take over the world.
of course could you imagine if we had to deal with bridged IPX or LAT based networks
Keeping ASCII artist employeed since 1969... (Score:2)
[Why use vector line art when ASCII art can look so good?
Now that's a small network (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Now that's a small network (Score:2)
Don't Read It! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Don't Read It! (Score:2)
But don't worry, you'll never be out of money. You'll just get infinitly close to broke.
Re:Don't Read It! (Score:2)
RFC authors? (Score:2)
RFC1543 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:RFC1543 (Score:2)
Well, they left out the first COMMENT submitted... (Score:5, Funny)
Lemme get my super-omniscient-archive up and running... oh yes, here it is. Comment #1, in reply to RFC1. Dated 11 seconds after RFC1 was issued:
"It'll never work."
Oddly, Comment #2, which was received within seconds of comment #1, was a cryptic
"Woot! First Comment!"
And th rest, as they say, is history.
We didn't have no fancy CRTs - and we LIKED it! (Score:2)
Oldest RFC (Score:3, Informative)
-Jack Ash
Summary of RFC1... (Score:3, Funny)
First RFC! W00t!
RFC 2555 - 30 years of RFC's (Score:4, Informative)
RFC 4 is older (Score:2, Funny)
now i know i'm really a nerd... (Score:2)
What a different world it was (Score:2)
Plus the origins of another big security problem: active mode FTP.
Re:Happy bday! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Happy bday! (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:32 Hosts?? (Score:2)
Re:author ? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:story of RFC origin (Score:2)