Microsoft Launches RFID Software Project 185
securitas writes "RFID Journal reports on the first Microsoft RFID software pilot project. Microsoft launched the six-month pilot in December with KiMs, Denmark's largest snack food producer. Microsoft plans to bring the new RFID-enabled supply chain management software (Axapta Warehouse Management) to market next year, targeting small- to medium-sized businesses. The news comes after Microsoft announced its Smarter Retailing Initiative, tools based on RFID and .Net Web services. More on this latest development at CNet and InformationWeek."
1/2 joke, 1/2 premonition (Score:5, Funny)
[Pilot-Project Test Warehouse in Denmark]
PHB: OK, the new MS inventory system automatically ordered 15 semi-trailer loads of Kotex Ultra Thick & Fluffy With Wings. Make sure we have room for that shipment.
GeekSlave: But.. Sir, we sell snack food, not..
PHB: Don't question the system; do you know how much it cost?!
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Ultra Thick & Fluffy?!? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Ultra Thick & Fluffy?!? (Score:1)
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Perhaps, but that would require that you remove your hand first.
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first walmart (Score:3, Insightful)
microwave everything!
Re:first walmart (Score:2, Interesting)
well, with walmart and microsoft onside it's pretty much inevitable now...
microwave everything!
Sounds funny coming from Frymaster...Re:first walmart (Score:5, Insightful)
well, with walmart and microsoft onside it's pretty much inevitable now...
It's only inevitable if you support the system.
Buy from locally owned stores.
Buy locally produced products.
Support companies owned from within your country.
Don't support the big multinationals. They view consumers as nothing more than cattle at the trough.
It's no suprise that Levi Strauss closed its last US manufacturing plant after getting in bed with WalMart to make cheap jeans so consumers could save a couple of bucks while putting their neighbours out of work.
Re:first walmart (Score:2)
As nice of a plan that is, it's still inevitable... there's just a couple less people supporting the big corporations. There's still millions and millions supporting their own doom.
Re:first walmart (Score:5, Insightful)
They view consumers as nothing more than cattle at the trough.
Strange thought: perhaps that's because many Americans are cattle at the trough... consider the inevitable stampeding over Friday-After-Thanksgiving sales. The sad thing about modern marketing? It actually works. People are, in general, so apathetic, that they are glad to be treated like cattle, insofar as they get shiny things.
Now, before I get modded flamebait, please consider what I've said, and recall that I am not ranting against any one person, but against the state of the society as a generality. Thanks.
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Biiiig difference.
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Re:first walmart then the world (Score:2, Interesting)
North&South-Americans, Europeans, Asians, and Africans are sheep being lead to a slaughter. And Most will happily forge their own shackles, just as the poor fools in Russia did in 1919. They were trading one set of chains for another, and it took them 60 some years to undo that mistake.
It is a cyclical problem, mostly going unnoticed throughout history. Bu
Re:first walmart (Score:1)
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Cost overrides quality.
Qaulity suffers to compete
Re:first walmart (Score:5, Insightful)
the real problem is factoring the total cost of the product. not just the price.
ask yourself if the "cheaper" product:
since there are viturally no laws demanding disclosure by manufacturers, calculating the real cost of products is a left to a lot of guessing and assuming.
my general rules: look for the union tag, pay too much, avoid dubious materials (pvc fr instance), dedicate yrself to buying one for the rest of your life when possible.
Re:first walmart (Score:4, Insightful)
This is so much oversimplified crap. No matter how much money we save on an item it's just going to get spent on something else.
Lower prices are great help to low income families.
And who says that the person who gained a job because of the extra Wal-Mart business doesn't deserve it just as much as your neighbor?
Re:first walmart (Score:2, Informative)
1. You don't make as many impulse purchases. 2. You save quite a bit on what you do buy.
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Also, eBay is really a seller's market. Ive often observed that closing bids are actually higher than if you just went to Best Buy or CompUSA and purchased the item there.
Im all for Internet shopping, however, because it makes pricematching quick and easy. But eBay is definitely not (generally, anyway) a place for barg
Re:first walmart (Score:2)
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This is just empty rhetoric, completely meaningless. It seems to me a company that offers you a cheaper product because they are constantly streamlining the process to make things more efficient is a good thing. When I go buy something, I already know what I want. I don't need to fund an overpaid salesperson at a niche store to help me make my choice.
Re:first walmart (Score:2)
I'm going to assume you're from Europe... if not, oh well.
Does Europe forget its past so quickly?
I don't see how any European can throw that word around so freely. It's disgusting really. Give me a break.
Re:Nazi? (Score:3, Insightful)
You have stupid laws and allow corperations to bribe your government. You bomb every country you don't like and bush is a gimp doing what his daddy never finished off.
Way to represent Europre with your clear, concise thoughts. How does this comment:
Does Europe forget its past so quickly?
I don't see how any European can throw that word around so freely. It's disgusting really. Give me a break.
make m
Re:Nazi? (Score:3, Insightful)
Eh, that's exactly it, a lot of Europeans (Western Europe under police-state Hitler, Eastern Europe under police-state communism) probably know -- or can understand from personal/family histo
Microwaving doesn't work (Score:4, Interesting)
Q: Can I microwave products to kill any hidden RFID tags they might contain?
A: While microwaving an RFID tag will destroy it (a microwave emits high frequency electromagnetic energy that overloads the antenna, eventually blowing out the chip), there is a good chance the the tag will burst into flames first. The difficulty of destroying a hidden RFID chip is one reason we need legislation making it illegal to hide a chip in an item in the first place.
Licensing (Score:4, Funny)
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Virus (Score:1)
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This is all part of their sceme to rule the world. I wonder if Pinky and the Brain are really behind it all at Microsoft. I mean bill kind of looks like the Brain.
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Pronunciation? (Score:1)
What's next? (Score:1)
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Anzexium (Score:2)
Anzexium, the post with the answers to your questions!
So it's bad. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So it's bad. (Score:2)
All we need now is someone to say SCO IS EVIL!!! and we have the perfect slashdot story.
Patents (Score:3, Funny)
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This could be of medical use... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This could be of medical use... (Score:2)
We would finally be able to keep track of their shit!
Re:This could be of medical use... (Score:1)
so how much db bloat will that cause (Score:5, Interesting)
pallet #245 has 300 items on it, how many bit is each rfid tag? 32 bits * 300 items (a bit over 1kB) per pallet (big items or small pallet) 64 bits? (over 2kB) what about the pallet of kazzos, 100000 * 64 bits (~800kB per pallet).
how large will the tracking databases have to get?
pallet #245 makes 3 stops before it gets to the final reseller, warehouse 1,2 and 3 then add 2kb per pallet of this product to each of their databases as they track it.
oh well, hard drives are cheap, bandwidth is cheap, heck even privacy is cheap (at the rate we watch it being given up, you'd think we where giving away air)
Re:so how much db bloat will that cause (Score:1)
Re:so how much db bloat will that cause (Score:2, Interesting)
I have been looking at solutions for a small store to integrate their cash register with most likely a Microsoft system like C5 or Attain (comparable to Axapta but inteded for smaller companies).
There aren't any limits in the system itself - but a lot of software limits have been placed. Among those are the size of the database. First of all if you move beyond a certain size you will have to pay an amount (starting at $3000 if I remember correctly) to get an MSSQL instead o
Re:so how much db bloat will that cause (Score:2)
Larger environmental databases record the whole life of an item, but with less detail. If detail is needed the archive on each local
Good news for SMB's... (Score:4, Insightful)
That said, it's definitely not an easy thing to implement and realize savings from. It requires a real white-board redesign of how your product flows from supplier all the way through to customer. I'm sure there will be many examples of companies falling on thier faces doing this, spending resources on capabilities that they never end up fully utilizing.
Hmmm... (Score:4, Funny)
I think maybe someone should reserve a space on Sourceforge for RFID.
Good news (Score:2, Funny)
Great...good news that. I was worried that a capable outfit would get involved and RFID might gain traction. Now I can relax.
RFID + Palladium = ? (Score:3, Informative)
I still think Palladium will fail, simply because Linux and the BSDs have now attained critical mass, and that most Linux users simply won't accept a closed hardware platform like it. Therefore, someone will step up to the plate and provide a non-Palladium hardware platform -- simply because there is money to be made in such a platform.
Now, for a serious question: has anybody got any idea on how to quickly disable RFIDs? I don't want to be followed around, whether it is by Microsoft, a retailer or anybody else. Please don't say: "Just microwave it", because some things with embedded RFIDs cannot be microwaved...
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Except, of course, that I was not talking about desktop computers (even though I use Linux on my desktop), but about servers, where Linux enjoys solid growth and market share. Don't believe me? Check out Netcraft.
Desktop computers are not really profitable for most PC makers anyway. Servers are.
Re:RFID + Palladium = ? (Score:2, Informative)
MIT BLOCKER TAG [mit.edu]
Re:RFID + Palladium = ? (Score:2)
IBM and Dutch electronics maker Philips also announced on Monday that they are working together on an RFID solution. Philips' semiconductor unit will make the radio chips that can be stuck on items, while IBM will provide the computer services and systems.
I assume this is the
Re:RFID + Palladium = ? (Score:2)
You misunderstand what Palladium is for. And, really, if Linux/BSD have reached "critical mass", there will be a Palladium layer written for them.
AFAIK, Palladium will be
Re:RFID + Palladium = ? (Score:2)
Now I'm no MBA, but something tells me that Linux and *BSD users aren't really Palladium's target market.
How much in US$? (Score:1)
Re:How much in US$? (Score:2)
Re:How much in US$? (Score:1)
Euro=about a buck (it's at $1.25ish now, but was as low as $0.80 last year. Yen=about a penny (ranged from about 1 USD=JPY60 ($0.02) to 1 USD=JPY200 ($0.005) Pound about $2.00 (it's been closer to $1.50 in the past (and it might have enven aproached parity pretty recently). Go check something accurate before you make a transaction, but those generally work for reading a news story and trying to place cu
RFID and Microsoft (Score:3, Interesting)
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My company does a lot of work for the US Department of Defense in this area. The biggest problem in that we face is that there are no standards yet. One vendor's tags can't be read by another vendor's interogators. So in order to set up an end-to-end supply chain system, DoD has had to stick with one company, Savi and his proprietary,expensive, and closed system.
Supply chain management within DoD would realize huge improvements with something like a universally readable active tag. With Microsoft and Wa
I was half expecting... (Score:5, Interesting)
Having a key in the chip that's required to decode the CD would be an interesting variation of the dongle concept.
If there was a cheap USB RFID reader that shipped with the S/W it might even be practical.
Re:I was half expecting... (Score:1)
On the topic of RFID, how long till the stores start tracking the movement paterns of items through the store. Wouldn't sensors be able to group items in the cart to predict shopping patterns which analyst could then use to drive advertising, product placement, etc...?
br Jim
Re:I was half expecting... (Score:2)
No more worrying about how much SafeDisk craps on my game preformance.
I just need to know what the lifespan on the tags are and what happens when it's up.
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You better patent this idea right away!
I feel much better about ... (Score:4, Funny)
Growing new market.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Just good business sence in this case.. noting much to see..move along.
KiMs (Score:2)
It's like some big conspiracy to make us all eat healthy stuff...
Perhaps someone can answer this... (Score:3, Interesting)
While I understand Microsoft is a well known brand name that people trust, I must ask the inevitable question: "Why do they trust Microsoft?"
Surely the people ordering these products must know the poor reputation MS has for quality control. Think back to Windows 95 Revision A. Type a password that is 99 characters or more and it skips the authentication. Or perhaps the numerous bugs that fill Outlook, MS IE and so many of their other vital products. Yes they can make computing easier and I wouldn't hesitate to point someone who is new to computers to Windows due to the simplicity you must also ask yourself if it is that simple then it probably shouldn't be used on critical systems and frankly ordering is fairly critical.
I remember when a bank used MS software on some of their ATMS and the machine began shooting out money. I am not sure what was the root cause but surely it is tied to the fact that MS's OS was installed.
There is also the question of interoperability. If you have a computer that runs Windows XP, a bank machine, a cash regsiter, an ordering system and a security system that run Windows
On a similar note some of you may have seen the newer cash registers that use some very simple operating system I have noticed a significant number of lockups on these machines whereas when I used to work at a coffee store we used a simple electronic cash with LED number display and I think we had a total of two lockups, one was caused by a paper jam.
It was that diversity of operating systems and the lack of availability of some of the more commercial ones that gave them a sense of security. Not to mention most of the "OSes" were so simple (because they needn't be any more complex than a calculator to work) that it was very hard to cause problems save for a few isolated cases.
Do we really need this many systems running computer software when a calculator can work just as efficiently? I have no problem with people who want to put an OS on something to say "we can!" but perhaps we ought to ask ourselves: "should we? Do we really need it?" before touting the benefits of something like this.
I don't want this to sound like I am just bashing MS, quite the opposite, I praise them on their marketing ability and their general ingenuity but perhaps we ought to think:
Do we really need Norton AntiVirus on our cash regiters?
Re:Perhaps someone can answer this... (Score:2, Interesting)
A good guess is that this pilot project was started between Kim's and Navision (also a Danish company). Navision was the biggest (European) provider of ERP systems for midsize enterprises. Microsoft aquired Navision a few years back, so now of course the pilot project gets slapped the MS label all over it.
Besides that, this project is aimed at Supply-chain managme
Re:Perhaps someone can answer this... (Score:1)
Found this article that indicates that MS is certainly not the only player in the Wal-Mart RFID game. Sun Microsystems opens RFID Test Center to Help Suppliers Meet Requirements from Wal-Mart [sun.com]. According to this article, the testing is aimed at tags at the pallet, case, and item level.
As for the registers, that's a separate issue. The OS drivi
Re:Perhaps someone can answer this... (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course som
Re:Perhaps someone can answer this... (Score:1)
If you tell a big enough lie, loudly enough, and long enough, people will start to accept it as true, no matter how unlikely it is.
This has been Microsoft's primary defense of itself in every unethical and illegal action it has ever committed, and it has been largely successful.
It's called technological progress (Score:3, Insightful)
Would you have also questioned the motives of the calculator's inventor, since the slide rule could obviously do math computations just as well?
Web site terms of use (Score:2)
Amazing technology! (Score:1, Funny)
At the peril of sounding moderate... (Score:4, Insightful)
RFID only becomes a problem when active tags escape the market and remain with the end user. Escaped tags are a hardware problem, not a software problem, and trying to bash Microsoft for supporting RFID in warehousing software is just silly.
There are so many good reasons ro bash Microsoft that there exists no need to conjure up bad ones.
Re:At the peril of sounding moderate... (Score:2)
RFID will last about as long as the counterfitting of it does not get wide spread. I expect that as RFID Tags get going the spoofing of them will get going as well
Even if the RFID tag has authentication coding with all sorts of other tricks, it can and rapidly will be counterfitted. The counterfitting will include such things as people attaching counterfit tags to reduce the price of items as well as spoofing quantities
RFID will be subject to all sorts of other problems such as false charging of account
MS is just playing catch-up (Score:3, Insightful)
This isn't something MS would want to loose out on. RFID-enabled supply chains are expected to generate 4-10x more tracking data. That could be a lot of SQL-Enterprise licenses, for just one example.
SCO slapped like a redheaded step child... (Score:4, Interesting)
Big Brother is Watching your snack food (Score:2, Funny)
Why would anyone.... (Score:2)
Company directors have a liability to their shareholders, if this goes horribly wrong (guaranteed!) it can destroy entire businesses, the directors may then be held personally liable, having installed this trash.
Of course it will be designed to interoperate badly, or not at all, with anyone else's systems. It will simply be another intolerable burden, a Bill
Smarter Retailing Initiative (Score:2)
Maybe the internal name is more descriptive. Something like "Locked-in Retailing Initiative".
It does look more and more like Microsoft is attempting to become an services company. You can look at IBM's work in RFID and it makes sense but when you look at Microsoft getting into it I have to ask, "Is it such a good thing and do they really have the customer in mind?" I mean, EVERYTHING they have every done has been done to prot
RFID tags aren't going to kick your dog. (Score:3, Informative)
Since the range that a passive RFID tag can be read at is proportional to the amount of power that the reader puts out, anyone who wanted to read one of those tiny tags from 100m away would have to fire so much microwave radiation at you that you'd be too busy bursting into flames to care about the invasion of privacy. All an RFID tag really does is identify an item of clothing that you buy, not you. That item of clothing could be given as a gift, shared between partners or sold in a thrift store - the information you can get from tracking it is so abstract in it's focus and massive in it's volume as to be nearly useless.
Besides, stores already have a way of tracking you. They're called 'Credit Cards'.
RFID for Consumers (Score:3, Informative)
It was actually very cool. RFID itself is an extremely useful technology for retailers and consumers -- it just needs to be used responsibly. And consumers have to have the ability to not use it.
Where's Big Blue? (Score:2)
This is likely a high growth sector, as all industries are looking to make their distribution systems more efficient, and anyone who gets an early leed could have a large advantage, since interoperability between difference companies systems would be a big selling point.
Particularly, I wondered where was IBM, who once lost control of a large industry to microsoft.
RFIDs killer app (Score:3, Interesting)
Next, there needs to be a cheap piece of hardware that lets you program/read the RFIDs. THe final step is to have open-source software developed that enables you to search for RFIDs in your house, and displays on a map of your house where the item is. And it could also keep stock of how many groceries were in your fridge and order things ahead of time if it needs to. It could also keep track of where people are in the house (useful for parents with little kids) and could be very useful for automating your house. Think "i put the coffee cup with its chip inside the coffee machine with its reader, it does the rest". Think "pull car into garage, have RFID reader automatically start dinner/announce your arrival."
And these are just some of the more obvious uses, I'm sure people would think things up that would be a lot more useful.
Some corrections and suggestions (Score:1, Funny)
Maradonna is legendary soccer player from Argentina, and even though he grew fat during past few years, it's highly unlikely they managed to place an airport on his body.
I wrote it on the Starter cap
If Rob were to provide his autograph, he'd probably choose a ThinkGeek cap or something, why would he go with the Starter cap?
I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
The repercussions with the DNS server are highl
Try submitting this as a story! (Score:1, Offtopic)
Knowing the Slashdot editors though, I doubt such a story would ever make it to the front pages.