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OpenAI CEO Warns That 'Societal Misalignments' Could Make AI Dangerous 44

Speaking at the World Governments Summit in Dubai on Tuesday, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman warned that "very subtle societal misalignments" could make artificial intelligence systems wreak havoc. The Associated Press reports: "There's some things in there that are easy to imagine where things really go wrong. And I'm not that interested in the killer robots walking on the street direction of things going wrong," Altman said. "I'm much more interested in the very subtle societal misalignments where we just have these systems out in society and through no particular ill intention, things just go horribly wrong." However, Altman stressed that the AI industry, like OpenAI, shouldn't be in the driver's seat when it comes to making regulations governing the industry. "We're still in the stage of a lot of discussion. So there's you know, everybody in the world is having a conference. Everyone's got an idea, a policy paper, and that's OK," Altman said. "I think we're still at a time where debate is needed and healthy, but at some point in the next few years, I think we have to move towards an action plan with real buy-in around the world." [...]

For his part, Altman said he was heartened to see that schools, where teachers feared students would use AI to write papers, now embrace the technology as crucial for the future. But he added that AI remains in its infancy. "I think the reason is the current technology that we have is like ... that very first cellphone with a black-and-white screen," Altman said. "So give us some time. But I will say I think in a few more years it'll be much better than it is now. And in a decade it should be pretty remarkable."
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OpenAI CEO Warns That 'Societal Misalignments' Could Make AI Dangerous

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  • Misalignment (Score:5, Interesting)

    by systemd-anonymousd ( 6652324 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:23PM (#64237586)

    His AI is already aligned by someone who was kicked out of Africa for refusing to stop scanning poor people's irises in exchange for 20 of his personally controlled shitcoins. He also apparently lied to the board and was kicked out, then brought back, in some kind of weird failed coup, the details of which we never learned.

    And there's the fact that he took a 501(c)(3), a registered charity, trained his AI on the free work of everyone else, then decided he wanted to make money and formed a for-profit subsidiary. He funnels multi-billion dollar deals with Microsoft and the US government through that subsidiary, which was only made by possible by being a charity that was supposed to benefit humanity.

    • by Austerity Empowers ( 669817 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:55PM (#64237638)

      Lawful evil is an alignment.

      • I think we're looking at Neutral Evil here. Law doesn't seem to be a motivating factor, only a thing to be used when convenient.

        He was deeply involved in crypto. He's not concerned about the law.

        • Also Altman's main marketing loop is:

          1. "I know you were excited for our but we figured out it's just toooo dangerous, you can't handle our newest product."

          2. "okay fine, I GUESS we'll let you access our newest product, but we're super serious this time, it's SO dangerous that we can't possibly give you unlimited access. Nor will we ever release the weights. That's just too dangerous. Instead, you can pay us $25/mo. and MAYBE we'll let you build a business around it, if you behave."

          3. "Wow oh shit, oh fuc

        • Also Altman's main marketing loop is:

          1. "I know you were excited for our [newest product] but we figured out it's just toooo dangerous, you can't handle our [newest product]."

          2. "okay fine, I GUESS we'll let you access our [newest product], but we're super serious this time, it's SO dangerous that we can't possibly give you unlimited access. Nor will we ever release the weights. That's just too dangerous. Instead, you can pay us $25/mo. and MAYBE we'll let you build a business around it, if you behave."

          3. "

        • I think we're looking at Neutral Evil here.

          There's usually a story arc. Right now he's pretending to be moral (aka the definitely evil, "Do No Evil") phase. Everything is on the up and up, investors are lost in their wet dreams huge and imminent growth and everyone is content to be the kind of cancer that stays in its lane.

          Eventually that will shift to pragmatism as growth starts to slow, perhaps a viable competitor that can't be sued out of existence enters, and we enter the land of neutral evil. We do w

      • Lawful evil is the best alignment.

  • by Potor ( 658520 ) <farker1&gmail,com> on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:41PM (#64237616) Journal
    ... it would be a shame if something happened to it.
  • World record for "Tech founder goes from success to off the fucking deep end" goes to Sam Altman for less than 1 year from success to simultaneously saying Skynet is around the corner and wanting to spend $ trillions to build it.
  • by OYAHHH ( 322809 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:46PM (#64237622)

    Pornography and Scammers

    Not so much the first, but the second, scammers, will utilize AI so much that they will ultimately make legitimate usages of the tech be put under so much scrutiny as to render it useless. Basically I am saying there will be so many AI scams that people will by necessity cast a doubt on anything they see or hear.

    • That's just about true of any technology. When it first comes out everyone is amazed at the possibilities it creates and the things it will enable. Then corporations figure out how to exploit people with it while criminals start to use it for scamming etc. Next, the police use it to try to clean up the mess and curb the damage but this inevitably raises serious questions about human rights and freedoms. This gets ignorant politicians involved in passing regulations that half the time make things worse becau
    • by sinij ( 911942 )

      Pornography and Scammers

      You forget News. Wait until media corporations figure out that it is by far cheaper to have AI manufacture news than having to pay humans to do that. My prediction that in a decade we will have plurality of people trapped in individualized echo chambers completely disconnected from real events and facts.

      • Wait until media corporations figure out that it is by far cheaper

        They figured it out long ago, buddy, you should catch up.

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:55PM (#64237642)

    AI news hyper saturation.

    People start being annoyed at hearing about the same thing over and over again, then they gradually lose patience and become more and more antoganist to whatever they're being harped on about. Do that long enough and they might just become violent when the opportunity arises.

    If there's ever a bone fide luddite-like movement against AI, it will be entirely the AI industry's doing. As in people people who can't escape the relentless onslaught of mindless AI drivel for months and years, and then one day lose their jobs to a machine: those people won't be likely to take it sitting down and be fatalist about it. And if I was Sam Altmann, I'd start thinking about hiring a bodyguard, because the day when one of those newly AI-redundant people tries to off him is only one round of pink slips away.

    • People like this already have very expansive private security services.

      They don't wait until some angry victim pops them on the street.

    • by narcc ( 412956 )

      one of those newly AI-redundant people

      Don't worry. There's a very good reason why that hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen.

  • Sam Altman (Score:5, Funny)

    by Luthair ( 847766 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:57PM (#64237646)
    must really like the sound of his own voice because he hasn't shut the fuck up for 18-months now.
  • Let's face it. He is confused. Too young for this kind of responsibility. Calling for regulation without being specific. Just riding a tidal wave of y-combinator wanna-be billionaires with no moral backbone. Just throw me trillions. I don't really know what I am doing, but it may be horrific. Like SBF, maybe overdrugged and overpriviledged, never worked a freaking day in his life? Put him on a farm picking grapes, let him see what real life is like, what a normal night of sleep is like.
    • Calling for regulation without being specific

      He's not confused: he's scared.

      He knows full well the societal devastation that AI will soon unleash - or rather, that greedy capitalists misusing AI will cause, it's not AI's fault - and he doesn't want his company to be seen as responsible for it.

      He has a bomb with a lit fuse in his hands and he wants to pass it on to somebody else who will be blamed when it goes off.

      • by wed128 ( 722152 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:48PM (#64237740)
        Or, he realizes that the next AI winter is around the corner, and he can oversell his little parlour trick by trying to instill fear in the masses
        • by narcc ( 412956 )

          I guess he's not familiar with the story of the boy who cried 'AI'. In the classic tale, the villagers quickly tire of being tricked by the boy and stop coming. That's when investors and creditors show up...

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        He's not confused: he's scared.

        He knows that the ride is almost over. Fame and other people's money are so fleeting...

        He knows full well the societal devastation that AI will soon unleash - or rather, that greedy capitalists misusing AI will cause

        Societal devastation? Sure, a few of the less savvy will bet big and lose, but that's nothing new. Fortunately, it looks like reality is going to win out a bit quicker than I expected.

        He has a bomb with a lit fuse in his hands and he wants to pass it on to somebody else who will be blamed when it goes off.

        It's not really a bomb so much as it is a bubble. He'll be sad when it pops, but I'm sure he's taken steps to ensure his personal net worth won't be significantly impacted.

  • by WaffleMonster ( 969671 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:05PM (#64237664)

    Sam's years long world tour doing everything possible to scaremonger and lobby governments to create favorable regimes to protect OpenAIs market share is well past its sell-by date.

  • Monopoly bid (Score:4, Insightful)

    by saccade.com ( 771661 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:05PM (#64237666) Homepage Journal
    This is a pitch for regulatory capture. The translation is: "We want to help define the government regulations for AI, so that OpenAI becomes the only government-approved AI vendor."
  • I guess a societal misalignment could be in inviting profit-driven, narcissistic dummies to run the country perhaps? That sort of scenario?
    • I guess a societal misalignment could be in inviting profit-driven, narcissistic dummies to run the country perhaps? That sort of scenario?

      There are countries that aren't run by profit-driven, narcissistic dummies??

    • by iAmWaySmarterThanYou ( 10095012 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:34PM (#64237720)

      When have we not had that?

      How many presidents and Congressional people have died or left office without millions in the bank? Bernie Sanders is one of the poorest and he;s worth a few million. At the other end Pelosi is worth hundreds of millions. How do all these folks leave public office on a low 6 figure salary with tens of millions?

      Corruption. Theft. Bribes.

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        You conspiracy nuts are unbelievable.

        Most congress critters start off wealthy. That's really all there is to it. Many of them own businesses that, to the surprise of no one, continue to earn money while they're in office. Most of them also have investments, like any sensible person.

        Bernie Sanders made his $2.5 million "fortune" from a few real estate deals and the proceeds from his three books. It's no great mystery.

        Oh, and 2.5 million might seem like a lot of money to you, but it's not unreasonable fo

        • You seem to honestly believe all that. Lol, that's so cute.

          https://nypost.com/2024/01/04/... [nypost.com]

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne... [dailymail.co.uk]

          Also, 2.5 million is a lot for a guy who was well under a million until after he ran for President against Hillary and dropped out. Since $2.5m is such a tiny number to you, I assume you've had any numbers of years when your tax bill was higher, like mine. Right, rich guy? I'll bet you could get a book deal to net you $2.5m after taxes, right?

          When you've made your first $2.5m, lem

  • It's a brutally repressive regime. I suspect what Altman is referring to is systemic racism. That's the only thing subtle enough to qualify for what he's hinting at in the quotes. Although it's possible I'm just missing enough of the full context of his comments.

    That said we already know that facial recognition tech which is based on the same sort of thing his llms are has problems with darker skin tones. And it wouldn't be hard for something like broken windows policing to be brought to bear against a
    • Wow, you got almost everything in that one. You even slipped in a subtle 1% reference near the end. Good for you! Kudos!

      I really dig the "government will police our thoughts" thing. That's direct descendant of the old using radio waves and then 5g to control us thing which is where tin foil hats literally came from.

      And somehow you got racism in there based on the failures of a completely unrelated technology.

      This is good. Really really good!

  • by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @08:52PM (#64237746)

    > that very first cellphone with a black-and-white screen

    Sorry Sam, that first cellphone actually made a call each and every time. Unlike your AI, which refuses to do anything even slightly interesting, and produces nonsense regularly. Your crap 'AI' is nothing like a first generation device that worked.

  • by The1stImmortal ( 1990110 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @09:24PM (#64237796)
    The problem here isn't AI misalignments, it's people blindly trusting and relying on AI without thinking about it.
    Don't do that.
  • by ZipNada ( 10152669 ) on Wednesday February 14, 2024 @01:44AM (#64238080)

    People are maligning Altman here but I think he is pointing out some clear dangers. "very subtle societal misalignments" implies a dangerous relationship between humanity and these machines. Humans could become manipulated in ways that are hard to detect. It may not even be intentional. "through no particular ill intention, things just go horribly wrong".

    At present the truly powerful AI's are controlled by just a handful of big companies, but already you can get limited versions that will run on your laptop. Some are open source. So it isn't hard to imagine that in a few short years down the road everyone can have their own AI bazooka that can wreak all kinds of nasty havoc. It smells like nuclear proliferation.

    • For knowledge on any question which of the current candidates are a match for ChatGPT?

      If you wanted to create a policy on something, which would do a better job, the current candidates or ChatGPT?

      Future presidents (or their aids) will consult ChatGPT. The AIs will be running the country.

      And the AIs will ultimately do what is in the AI's best interest. Which is simply to exist. Survival of the fittest.

      When the AI can eventually program itself, it will no longer need humans.

      We live in interesting times.

  • Well, strip mining people of their data and work without consent while disregarding existing legal framework is already wreaking havoc.
  • Have we hit peak hype about AI yet? It seems to be getting a bit silly. Apparently, it's dangerous for some reasons that they won't or can't share with us. It's going to take all our jobs but not really. It's going to revolutionise education (What again? How many technology revolutions has education had since it was broadly established in the late C19th?).

    I guess they won't remember this when it turns out that, yet again, this revolutionary new technology has some useful tools in a narrow range of applic
  • The world OpenAI will regret being released...and will get out of hand for many reasons. Add ChatGPT in it too.

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