Microsoft Is Killing Yammer Enterprise in January 2017, Will Start Integrating Office 365 Groups First (venturebeat.com) 44
Microsoft today provided new information about how it will be integrating Office 365 Groups into its Yammer enterprise-focused social network. The Yammer Enterprise service tier will be going away on January 1, 2017. But Yammer itself will remain available, and there are many levels of integration with the Office 365 services, reports VentureBeat. From the report: It will be possible for people to make Word, Excel, and PowerPoint documents using Office Online within Yammer, and it will be easy to go from Yammer to a shared OneNote notebook or the Microsoft Planner project management tool. Team members will be able to select existing files from OneDrive and SharePoint and share them with colleagues in Yammer, too. And Yammer teams will get their own SharePoint sites, enabling them to build wikis and blogs. Microsoft will be rolling out the integration in phases, with the first phase beginning later this year, the Yammer team said in a blog post. The first Yammer customers to get it are those whose users log in with their Office 365 identity. And Microsoft will initially be targeting organizations with a single Yammer network connected to one Office 365 tenant.
Microsoft is killing... what? (Score:1)
First time I hear about this product.
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The cloud is fine if you are a small company where you don't want to use your resources servers for your organization. However after you get to a particular size, the cloud advantage goes away. But we no longer get that option.
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My name isn't Joe, and I could secure our own network better. The awesome thing about the cloud is when someone higher up asks me to do something really stupid, I can just say no, we can't do that -- which keeps the network secure.
Re:Microsoft is killing... what? (Score:5, Informative)
It is a good solution for companies who don't want to rely on a public social networking site.
I have worked for a few large companies who have run a Yammer site. It is basically just an internal company Facebook.
It can be used for good purposes. Stuff that doesn't necessarily fall into "official" company communiques or which might fall outside company org structure.
For example, charitable events that company employees participate in might have a Yammer group... stuff like that.
The fact that it incorporates into AD and as well as other MS Office tools and products makes it attractive for organizations already in the MS ecosystem.
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Sure, it is like a lot of other products out there. But it has the added advantage of being a part of the O365 bundle... so you get it with no extra cost. Unlike a 3rd party solution.
It also does what it purports to do. So really, what more do you want?
As for SharePoint.... I am not the biggest fan of it either, but mostly from an administrative point of view (it is not the easiest thing to incorporate, administer or migrate...). However, from a user point of view, I can see the appeal and I use it all the
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And last thing I want to hear about: "enterprise-focused social network"
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MS does have a really great record of choosing product names, don't they?
Makes "Zune" really stand out as the only one where the product was indeed worse than its name. That's not saying much, though.
Yay! Sharepoint! (Score:5, Funny)
And Yammer teams will get their own SharePoint sites
"I can't wait to use Sharepoint more" -No one, ever.
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That just sounds like poor administration.... which is understandable... SharePoint is not the easiest thing to administer.
My favorite story about SP is when I worked for a very large company. We had all over our team documentation on SP. This was the proscribed practice for all the teams in our department.
Among these documents were our DR procedures.
HOWEVER.... SP was not considered an integral (tier 1) service.... and hence would not be "failed over" as part of a DR shift to a backup data center. So.... t
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oops, I meant prescribed, not proscribed....
Re:Yay! Sharepoint! (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm a Microsoft flag waver- for the last 20 years. It's been core to my career.
I absolutely hate Sharepoint, and I hate the way they are integrating it into everything.
Recently I had someone come to me saying that they kept sending out files, and nobody outside of our organization could access them.
Their files were saved to Sharepoint (the default, not their intention) and when they 'attached' the file to an email, Outlook went ahead and sent a link, rather than attaching the file. The link went to our internal Sharepoint, which people on the outside could not access.
I understand all the reasoning for this to happen. But the problem was that this was just a naive user clicking 'Sure, save it there, that is cool' then being stuck in this problem. I told them to save the file elsewhere...but now they had two versions of the file and confusion ensued.
Please, please, please don't make 'further integration with Microsoft products' the default!
And no...nobody has ever wanted to use Sharepoint more. I've been around it for a long time, and I don't understand what the heck it is supposed to be. Ignoring all Sharepoint is a valuable skill.
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I got a magic way for ms to make fifty bucks per user: sell a decent windows for a change.
Why should they bother? They already get $100 (or so I read somewhere) per user by having a shitty Windows pre-loaded on every computer sold. People aren't going to pay more for a non-shitty Windows (assuming such a thing is possible, which I doubt). And MS can make even more money per use by baking adware and spyware into Windows, without affecting the up-front price. It's an excellent sales strategy. And if peo
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I've actually never seen anyone with a chromebook. People do use smartphones, but not for real work.
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From what I can tell (haven't actually tried it), it looks like it would take months to get a stock SharePoint install hammered into some form that would actually be useful for your organization. Out of the box it's practically useless. You'll be paying those couple of consultants whether you go with Microsoft or not.
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My guess is that MS really wants to kill of basic (SMB) file sharing. The protocol is open enough that world+dog has already implemented in everything, so every file server upgrade faces the prospect of losing out to something else -- shit appliances all the way up to big ticket EMC devices.
Trying to move everyone to Sharepoint has so many layers of lock in I get dizzy just thinking about them. The endless licensing sales for server, SQL and 3 different kinds of CALs. Relentless sunk costs of developer t
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I'd love if someone could explain to me how this is supposed to work. I work on a software development team at a company of 50k employees. While we are developing and documenting the software planning, the doco lives on our team sharepoint site - where it is constantly updated. Once we come up with a final design, we have to upload our (hopefully) final doco to a department architect sharepoint site where it is reviewed and approved, or sent back for revision. There's almost always something they nitpick, s
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Their files were saved to Sharepoint (the default, not their intention) and when they 'attached' the file to an email, Outlook went ahead and sent a link, rather than attaching the file. The link went to our internal Sharepoint, which people on the outside could not access.
The default in Outlook 2016 is to also send links when you attach files that are in your OneDrive folders. That is, to you it seems like you're navigating through the filesystem and attaching a file, but Outlook "helpfully" sees that it's synced to OneDrive and sends a link to the website instead. There's a little box or something you have to check if you want the classic behavior, but you have to set it every time you send an email. I couldn't find any global setting to disable the linking.
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and I don't understand what the heck it is supposed to be
Sharepoint is supposed to be everything based on the marketing and the typical way it's setup in most companies.
That's also why it's so popular. Jack of all trades and master of none, actually not even novice at most really all things considered. But if you wanted 1 vendor and 1 platform to try and do bloody everything then Sharepoint is a skill that will put bread on the table.
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I'm a Microsoft flag waver- for the last 20 years. It's been core to my career.
20 years is really a long time in antivirus development and security consulting...
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Dust... wind....dude!
That's not news (Score:1)
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This is the main reason why I hate cloud products, Simon says, and we are all fucked up, can't count the number of times I have had to relearn Office 365 crap , for something as simple as get a fucking invoice. Google is even worse, they are like, tomorrow, no more feature for you, need support? Ask the community, good luck!
All work and no play -- Office 365 (Score:2)
Microsoft Haiku (ish):
No vacation
Work every weekend
Office 365
And I understand that they're ripping off "Whole Foods 365" brand, but I like drinking orange juice every day. Office work 365 days a year? No thanks -- but it is the society we are becoming.
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Office 365 doesn't sound like a product but rather like a reason to get a union going.