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GeForce 8800 GTX Recall 84

An anonymous reader writes "From vr-zone.com: 'We have received news that all the 8800GTX cards out in the channel are being recalled due to manufacturing defect. We heard it is probably due to a resistor controlling 2D/3D switching and that leads to 3D corruption. However, the defect doesn't affect the 8800GTS cards.'"
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GeForce 8800 GTX Recall

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  • Red alert! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) on Monday November 06, 2006 @11:04AM (#16735293) Homepage Journal
    We heard it is probably due to a resistor controlling 2D/3D switching and that leads to 3D corruption.
    Dimensional instability! Quick, get three versions of the same starship to simultaneously generate a static warp shell! Only then we can contain the flood of anti-time, and continue our symbolic life lesson at the hands of a smug omnipotent bastard.
  • twisted transistor..
  • When your greedy and can't wait for ROI according to your production schedule like a *normal* company...
    • It happens. It isn't like there isn't a huge market for yuppy gamers who HAVE TO HAVE THE LATEST.

      If people were a bit more conservative we wouldn't have a 4-month release cycle for GPUs. They'd spend more time refining the technology, and you'd be doing more with less.... yada yada.

      Personally, my GeForce 5200 was fine, the only reason I got a 6600 was that it was the cheapest non-turbocache PCI-E card I could get at the time [and the 7xxx series was out then]. I can play doom3/quake/enemyterritory just f
      • by hrrY ( 954980 )

        If people were a bit more conservative we wouldn't have a 4-month release cycle for GPUs. They'd spend more time refining the technology, and you'd be doing more with less.... yada yada.

        Which is my point exactly, it's *almost* like the 7xxx series fiasco that is still playing itself out. God forbid your an early adopter...does that mean that a customer should have to buy 2 of the same card to gain the benefit of some form of advertised stability? Ummm, that's a negative good buddy...at some point people

        • People should stop buying more than they need for graphics. That's the real problem [same could be said for processors, but frankly I think that's less of a problem].

          Nvidias business model revolves around rolling out the largest, most current consuming monstrosity possible so long as consumers keep buying it. If the customers shifted their spending habits from "I got a small wee wee and need a big pee cee" to "I really can get by with a 6xxx or 5xxx series card" they would spend more time making the middl
          • by dpilot ( 134227 )
            I have done what you suggest, in the past.

            But now I find it annoying that the sub-$100 market has gone completely to castrated video cards. That didn't used to be the case. I have both Radeon 8500LE and FX5700LE cards that were sub-$100, and I'm quite happy with them. The features are all there, just the clock is slightly degraded. Obviously I'm not a hard-core gamer with cards like that, but for what I do, they're fine. On my newest system, I searched until I found an nVidia 6200 card that was not TurboCac
            • by Jett ( 135113 )
              I've seen sub-$100 6600GTs. I agree the low-end has been a lot of crap in the past, but a 6600GT is a solid card to have as the "low-end" even if it is a few years old now. I personally can't stand the contemporary nomenclature used by ATI and nVidia and I think it's one of the reasons people bitch about the low-end cards, it's really hard to figure out relative performance without doing a lot of research.
              • by dpilot ( 134227 )
                I bought a little over a year ago, and did at least enough work to know to avoid TurboCache, but I guess not enough to know about the 64/128 bus issue. At the time, the 6200 that I bought was one of the few I saw sub-$100 that looked decent - I just wish I'd known a teeny bit more, and maybe I could have found a full-bus version for only a little more.

                It's also stunning just how populated the crap-space is. There must be more castrated cards than there are high-end cards. Now that I think of it, I wonder if
            • by afidel ( 530433 )
              7600GS. Pixel Shader 3.0, dedicated memory, and uses 27W max! Costs less than $100 for a 256MB-DDR2 PCIe model.
              • by dpilot ( 134227 )
                Sounds good. When I bought my 6200 over a year ago either the 7k series wasn't out, or only the high end of it was. (I believe.)
                • At that time last year, the 128MB 6600 PCIe was under $100. Although it was impossible for the 6600 to reach the clocks of the venerable 6600 GT, it was significantly faster than the 6200.

                  I do agree - the 6200 was a castrated card - no ultrashadow or lossless memory compression - but it was an exception.

                  All current 7000-series Nvidia cards have the same feature-set, with the exception of hardware SLI connectors. The 7300 GS is the only TurboCache card, and even with that limitation it manages to outperfor
          • I bought my top of the line video card because I need something to accurately render the billions of polygons in my 16x Anti-Aliased E-Wang at 120 FPS, you insensitive clod! On an entirely unrelated note, I choose not to measure my video card's power in Gigaflops. . .
      • Hey, asshole, the constant unending push to release the fastest card on the market drives prices down faster. Even if it didn't, you'd still be an asshole. If I want to spend $600 for a new video card because I think it's worth it, then I will. A 6600 don't cut it at 1920x1200.
        • My thoughts exactly, I have a 22" LCD with a native resolution of 1680x1050. I need a decent card to play all my games at 1680x1050 with max settings and 2xAA/8xAF. I have a X1900XT 256mb and it handles all my games just fine and it only cost me $360 Canadian after tax. If I had a 1900x1200 monitor, I'd probably need an even better video card, or I'd have to reduce the quality settings.
      • by dami99 ( 1014687 )
        What is your problem?

        If I want to spend $500+ on a video card every 4 months, why does that bother you?

        You readily admit you aren't an early adopter, so why do you care that early adopters run into instability problems? Isn't that their choice to make? If am going to buy all the latest tech before it even hit the shelves I expect such issues on occasion.

        As has been said -- without early adopters paying the big $$ for the research, budget products would likely not exist.
  • by Ellis D Trippman ( 655872 ) on Monday November 06, 2006 @11:17AM (#16735501)
    They probably put the resistor in backwards
    • by mikael ( 484 )
      Fax received by admin from on-site engineer:

      Manufacturer insists their manufacturing tools have placed the resistor the correct way round.

      Their engineers say the entire reference board has been specified backwards.
  • a resistor controlling 2D/3D switching
    The higher they fly, the noiser the fall!
    Not even a flip-flop or a transistor!
  • IIRC, Asus is responsible for the manufacture of all 8800-series boards. The only thing the integrators do is add their cooling solution for the GPU and RAM.
    • No, they aren't the only manufacturer. They might be the ones to blame in this case, but the other companies like BFG, eVGA, and Gigabyte usually create their own customized boards, and don't simply use the reference board. The reference board may be the one that this problem occurs on, and ASUS might be the manufacturer of the reference board, but they most certainly are not the only manufacturer of boards.
      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        It depends on the chip, but most companies tend to stick with the reference design and at most put on higher-end RAM and custom cooling (and then maybe OC the cards and sell them for a markup). Very few of the board makers bother to customize designs anymore beyond really simple things. If the problem is in the reference design then chances are all of the companies are effected. What may be going on here though is that ASUS has exclusive first dibs on making 8800GTX boards and thus are the only ones effecte
    • Nvidia CEO in Taiwan to secure TSMC capacity for DirectX 10-compliant GeForce 8800 [cpu3d.com]

      Looks like Nvidia is using Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), atleast for their reference boards anyway.
  • This is terrible news!

    Oh well...i've waited six months for this card to come out...so a little longer won;t make much difference.

    That said, its a good job they recalled them. I'd be damnably annoyed if i'd just spent $600 on a card that was made broken.
  • If a product is recalled before any have been sold, is it really a recall?
    • Well, lookie [nvnews.net] here! [gotechzilla.com] Over the last week, brick & mortar retailers AND etailers across the country have done a boneheaded thing and sold the cards to customers early.

      Funny thing: many customers noticed glitches in 3D mode...what a coincidence! I guess we do need a recall!
  • bit-tech has an official statement from Nvidia here [bit-tech.net]. Nvidia specified an incorrect resistor value in their bill of materials, so the manufacturer did its job correctly, but had slightly incorrect instructions.

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