Finding Digital Scans of Sheet Music? 109
Crymson asks: "I've been trying to find a repository of sheet music out on the web. I'm mostly interested in Classical, although scores for Brass pieces would be nice. I'm sure with Google digitizing all the books of the world, someone must be digitizing all of the sheet music. I don't want special viewers, and I don't want to pay out the nose for music that *may* be what I'm looking for. Where is a decent repository of free sheet music?"
Copyright is copyright (Score:5, Informative)
In short, almost none of it can be legally scanned *and distributed*.
For more authoritative info, google on "length of copyright" and "sheet music", or see http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Us
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You are assuming that there have been no changes in musical notation since Bach and that there are no other significant problems in preparing a score suitable for modern performance.
If you are listening to a performance of Bach, it is almost certainly an orchestra's unique (and copyrighted?) interpretation of the work, and not an attempt at a mechanical, note-by-note, transcription of the score in manuscript.
Re:Copyright is copyright (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a fairly major credibility issue with that statement. Could you cite some sources for your assertion? - (Not including music publishers, of course)
My understanding of copyright law is that it requires a certain amount of creativity before something is considered copyrightable. Rewriting and reformating just isn't enough. I would normally expect that public domain music would only be freshly copyrightable IF enough new work had been added to justify adding the new publisher's name to the "Composed by" line.
There are a number of content middlemen (Music, video, sheet music) out there who are under the impression that every time they reissue the same work, copyright begins anew. They are wrong.
Everyonce in a while, a publisher will attempt to render public domain material copyrightable by introducing a deliberate error. Then they claim that copiers have infringed their copyrights on the errors. When challenged, this, too, fails the necessary "creativity" test for copyrightability.
Not possible. While the program remains copyright, of course, the copyright of the output belongs solely to the author. I have used some of these programs; they allow you to set your own copyright notices.
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Everyone's an IP expert, but nobody actually is (Score:2)
Public domain books certainly don't share the same characteristic--it is only meaningful additions to those works, such as annotations, that are subject to copyright under Section 103(b) of the U.S. Code. [cornell.edu]
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I'll stop reading when you and people like you stop trying to frame your poor understanding of intellectual property laws as the authoritative truth. Pretending to be an authority on something that you obviously don't understand only serves to perpetuate misunderstanding of intellectual property issues, in the Slashdot community and elsewhere.
Where you have attempted to help, you instead do harm. People will now read your "+4 Insightful" comment and think
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Everyone's an IP expert .. I was a patent examiner (Score:2)
See http://www.patent.gov.uk/copy/c-applies/c-original
>>>"Published editions of literary works such as magazines, anthologies of poems and
Sure thing, coward (Score:2)
Simple. Electronic compilations of public domain works, such as Gutenberg, own a copyright on the compilation itself, taken as a whole, but never on the individual works that make up the collection. It's not a distinction I expect you to understand, but you could at least make a good faith effort to try. Why don't you read Section 103(b) of the Code instead of trying to get strangers to explai
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The sheet music may very well be copyrighted due to small, even minor, variations that the publisher put in it. Not so much the formatting, though I suspect in some more extreme cases (i.e., not just changing the font and page width) that the new work could be copyrighted. So all that needs to happen is that a publisher get a hold of Bach's original work, or at least some old copy of it, change a
Tricky wording (Score:3, Informative)
(emphasis added)
That "may" that I bolded DOES NOT MEAN that the publisher has a legally enforceable new copyright (i.e. it doesn't mean "may" as in "they ar
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Deliberate errors in the work introduced for the purpose of making the work copyrightable do not meet the necessary creativity test. Nor do any formatting changes, punctuation, or spelling changes, such as changing British to American spe
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I actually bumped into this first-hand back in my college days - I was flipping through an ADC map and noticed a road way in the middle of nowhere named "Pink Floyd Road". So, of course, my buddy and I decided to drive out there to see whether *ahem* one of the street signs might have fallen off the post. Alas, after 45 minutes of driving in circles around corn field
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Map makers have been known to try it. So have telephone companies in their phone books and just about anyone else who compiles public databases that are essentialially just lists of facts.
Usually these attempts fail if they ever get to court because lists of facts are not creative. Most times, however, the little guy will fold when he gets his first corporate lawyer nastygram.
Note: There has been lobbying by these database producers (phone companies, etc.) to
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My understanding is that a lot of music, especially older than Classical period pieces, do involve a bit of creative work. The source materials are highly fragmentary: They were w
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Try LilyPond [lilypond.org]: "music notation for everyone."
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I'd mod you Informative if I had any mod points now!
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If you want to typeset a score and avoid having the software place restrictions on the output, there is no need to resort to the pain of using a paint program! Just use some software like MusiXTeX [jpn.org].
As a matter of fact, it appears that some people have already been doing this and making available some free sheet music. They have an archive [icking-music-archive.org], and
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rhY
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For Bach, there is luckily a very old but reputable edition called Bach Gesellschaft [wikipedia.org]. It was published between 1851 and 1900.
(not score program, they probably copyright the output of it)
IANAL, but this is no more likely than MS Word copyrighting the output of your essays, or Photoshop copyrighting your pictures.
Just be sure to note that you're not claiming copyright over the public domain work, otherwise your copyright will
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What you say is true of all fonts. Your term "custom fonts" doesn't mean anything. All fonts are Copyright (C) their creator, whether they come with the program, or you get them off the internet, or you buy them in a box. However, except in exceptional circumstances, I feel confident in saying that no one would buy a f
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Re:Copyright is copyright (Score:5, Informative)
Like Bach, Beethoven and Brahms.
In short, almost none of it can be legally scanned *and distributed*.
And in any case, he doesn't actually want scans, even if he doesn't know that. What he wants is music that has been digitally encoded in a free and open standard, so that there are readers the can interepret and print it.
The basically means ABC and Lilypond files:
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/ABC-FAQ.htm
http://lilypond.org/web/ [lilypond.org]
KFG
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Of course not, that's why he wants ABC/Lilypond files - so he can have freshly typeset standard notation sheet from human readable and editable source notation instead of crappy scans of degraded hundred year old sheet (because while the source material may be in the public domain, recent printed editions are not) - with midifiles for performance reference thrown in as a bonus.
KFG
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I don't know about brass music, but it seems like SOMETHING should be available. Maybe someone can come up with a sheet-wiki?
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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/22/21523
MIDI to the rescue (Score:3, Informative)
Find a midi file, import it into garageband, change view to score/notation, print.
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I don't think he's looking for something that's necessarily free. And even if he isn't, I'm not.
The fact is that there's nothing analgous to iTunes for sheet music. If you want the music for a contemporary song, then you're stuck having to purchase a whole book filled with other songs just to get the one you're after. Same situation as buying a cd used to be in 1998 was.
While I'm not so hot on paying $20 for a book of 20 songs when I'm only interested in one, paying $1 20 times for 20 songs I do w
You *can* do it yourself. (Score:2)
Lute Music? Yeah, lute music. At his site (http://gerbode.net/) you can find o
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Re: lilypond music repository (Score:1)
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ [mutopiaproject.org]
MusicNotes (Score:5, Informative)
Check Here (Score:5, Informative)
I think you should be able to find something here.
BTW, GIYF.
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A library? (Score:1)
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The poster did ask for digital copies - but assuming that s/he would be willing to do the work of scanning/copying the music a Library is a great resource. Most Universities that have a music program will also have a good library of sheet music.
Torrents (Score:3, Informative)
Mutopia (Score:5, Informative)
Try Mutopia (Score:4, Informative)
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Not having a decent FOSS score writing program is really discouraging. It seems like it would be a very easy kind of program to write, and would benefit a lot of poorer musicians, both in impoverished areas here in the US, and for impoverished musicians in the third world.
Having a few good OLPCs and a decent music editing program could really improve music lite
Library? (Score:1)
I won't even try to guess at the legality/morality of this.
I've found a legal loophole. (Score:1, Informative)
The Sheet Music Archive (Score:5, Informative)
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Sheet music sites (Score:2, Informative)
Sheet Music Archive (Score:1, Informative)
Some ideas... (Score:5, Informative)
Another thing you can do is find a midi of what you want to play (use a midi search engine: http://www.musicrobot.com/ [musicrobot.com] or http://www.vanbasco.com/midisearch.html [vanbasco.com] ) and open in a sequencer and print the track(s) you want. Anvil Studio is a free program which can do this. http://www.anvilstudio.com/ [anvilstudio.com]
There's (Score:1)
It's a bit like Oscar's Orchestra [toonhound.com]...
Another "Not Quite, But..." (Score:1)
CPDL (Score:1)
Cheers,
Michael
Buy a good edition (Score:2)
Maybe we could host some? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd be willing to host good quality scans from other people, too, but it has to be demonstrably out of copyright -- I'm not interested in "legal loopholes" here. I'd suggest using 1200dpi greyscale and then adjusting "curves" to make a clear, sharp image. Both the music and the typeset score must be out of copyright, as well as the lyrics. In the US and Canada this is generally easy to determine, but for music produced in other countries it can be arbitrarily difficult; anything printed before 1820 or so is pretty safe though.
This doesn't really help the original poster very much unless I happen to have some specific piece of music, of course!
Choral public domain library (Score:1)
Just down the street (Score:2)
Easy - try you local Public Library. Heck, you can probably search their catalog online, just to maintain that required eek element,
What's wrong with Scorch from Sibelius? (Score:1)
http://www.sibelius.com/products/scorch/index.htm
http://www.sibeliusmusic.com/ [sibeliusmusic.com]
Free-Scores.com (Score:2, Informative)
What I'm really looking for... (Score:3, Informative)
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Cheers,
Michael
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Perhaps it's easier to find the MIDI file of a piece you're looking for than the actual score?
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Mutopia Project dot Org (Score:1)
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ [mutopiaproject.org] Has quite a few public domain transcriptions of classical music. In many file formats to boot, eh!
Limewire (Score:2)
Library of Congress collection (Score:2)
Score (Score:3, Informative)
Gamingforce (Score:1)
Registration required, but once registered, the forum "The Concert Hall" under the heading "Gamingforce Audio" is *the* place to find interesting sheet music.
Also performance videos.
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Conservatives (Score:2)
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With spending like this [twu.net/cct [twu.net]], just what are "conservatives" conserving? (Homophobia?)
The answer is: Their own social positions.
Conserving homophobia would probably earn them too much money, as well. Like smoking, homosexuality can prove very expensive in, well, odd little ways. Too easy to justify mean/nasty stuff against the savings.
It's also a bit too definite for conservatives. Fingers can be pointed, innocence can be cast aside, scarey stuff. Especially because your own f
Multiple Copyrights (Score:2)
The tune in itself is copyrighted, and the words (if there are any) exist under a separate copyright of their own. So you could, for instance, sing Hal David's words to a tune of your own invention and not owe Burt Bacharach anything. There was a fad in the 1980s to set new words to the tunes of advertising jingles, turning them into crappy love songs. And at least one record has had to be re-released with the words sung to a different tune; it was some
Werner Icking Music Archive (Score:1, Insightful)
hth
Sheet Music Consortium (Score:2, Insightful)
midi files are sheet music (Score:1)
blah blah copyright blah (Score:1, Insightful)
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Classical Guitar Repository (Score:2)
Gutenberg has some stuff (Score:2)
Project Gutenberg collects sheet music [gutenberg.org]. Unfortunately they don't have much available yet, and little of it is brass music. The number of renaissance trumpet solo pieces is essentially nil, sorry about that. :-)
I've had some luck hunting MIDI files on the net and cleaning them up for printing in Sibelius or Finale. Unfortunately it requires a lot of work as most songs must be rearranged to suit the ensemble. I've done this mostly on vocal music (renaissance mixed quartet) and classic jazz. The trick is to