Watching a Space Shot? 96
Gramie2 asks: "I was toying with the idea of throwing my son in the car and driving for two days to watch the latest shuttle launch. I didn't, but it occurred to me that I don't know the logistics of going to watch a launch. Where is the best place to stay near the site? Where do you view from? I imagine that there are restrictions, so do you have to get tickets or make other arrangements ahead of time? How do you find out the launch schedule? What about smaller launches? How do they compare? Is there one time of year that is better than another? Does anyone have other recommendations for the whole experience?"
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Although I beleive once can get closer as I've seen press much closer, but I don't know what the policy is on that.
Good luck and post some pics (on a STRONG server) if you get any good ones.
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And I presume they let press closer because they sign some sort of "hold harmless" contract
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MP5s? Pfft... (Score:1)
Why do you think the SWAT team carries said MP5s? Gator defense.
I'd rather die of kenetic lead poisoning than a Gator death roll any day.
Gators (Score:2)
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Nowadays? Likely "don't be brown."
I saw the 4 of July Lauch (Score:5, Informative)
If you enjoy camping, there is a KOA just north of Titusville on the interstate. Otherwise check out the state parks. (they were all full, fourth of july week and all).
Anywhere along the shore close to the shuttle is good (pull out a map...) but where we saw it - along with mostly locals - was a bridge just **north** of Space View Park (A Max Brewer Memorial Parkway). Take the bridge until you are almost to the entrance of the park, and camp it. You will need to get there hours early (we got there 8 hours early and there were quite a few people... but it was the first return to flight mission). Bring a grill and some fine grillables.
The other options is viewing **at** kennedy space center which is a mile or two closer, but the tickets are sold out by now.
Launch schedules are on NASA's website http://www.nasa.gov/ [nasa.gov]
For the whole experiance? Take a few days, go camping, the day before go tour Kennedy Space Center, because if the stars align and there aren't any problems with the shuttle they will actually drive you within a mile or two of it and you get some pretty good camera shots (from inside the van). I'd suggest getting there 2 days before the launch, go to KSC, go to the launch, don't be suprised if the launch gets scrubbed, and plan on having vacation last a few extra days in order to attend scrubs, if they happen. If not there are plenty of other attractions...
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Relax and watch from anywhere (Score:1)
"The white-zone is for delayed shuttle only..." (Score:1)
Central Florida (Score:5, Informative)
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I grew up down there, and I've seen a few night launches. Night launches are _extremely_ impressive.
Also, don't get your hopes up too high. You won't see astronauts waving out the windows or anything. At best, you'll see a small object with a huge flame coming out of it.
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Been there done that. (Score:5, Informative)
If you can not make it to the Nasa causeway Merritt Island isn't bad.
Remember that you go all that way and the shuttle will not launch.
In the summer people bring grills, and jet skis
One of several parks on the beach side will also give you a good view.
I don't know about anyone else feels but when I see a launch I feel an emotional attachment that watching it on TV just doesn't provide.
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You said it. Having a decent view of a live rocket ( of any size, but especially the shuttle) is an awesome experience! You can see it well, you can hear it really well, and what you CANNOT get from the TV is: you can FEEL it launch. Your best home media solution with massive subwoofers can't even com close to the rumble you can feel from the soles of your feet thru the top of your hair!
You can't fully appreciate the power these things unleash in controlled fury until you've actuall went and seen
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I remember hearing the engine tests at Rocketdyne's Santa Susanna test facility when living in Thousand Oaks about 15 miles away. The whole house was shaking and it was impressive hearing the sliding glass doors rattle away and these were
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My mom grew up in Huntsville and tells stories of the Apollo days testing the giant engines that rattled the whole area.
Think of the lawsuits today if you rattled an entire town with a rocket test...
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I'm not enough of a writer/wordsmith to do the subject justice, but I hope I somewhat was getting my point across- there just is nothing like experiencing a launch first-hand.
I agree about the lump in the throat sentiment of yours, if something like that can't get through a person's jaded mentality and help create a bit of awe for the scope of accomplishment for mankind, then I don't want to be around that person as you stated.
We've came a LONG ways from wearing skins and making fire with two sti
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I left NASA back in the late 90s, and had the supreme fortune of getting a vip pass to a launch while I was on TDY at KSC (sorry for the acronyms). I sat in the bleachers and watched the shuttle go up right across the banana river (I think is was on pad 39A, but I can't be sure). Employees don't normally get passes, but a high up mucky-muck had an extra pair due to a cancellation from some international dignitaries and offered one to me since I was the
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It can certainly be a tear-jerker if you appreciate science and have empathy for the human condition.
Visit the center (Score:5, Informative)
http://kennedyspacecenter.stores.yahoo.net/ [yahoo.net]
Also saw this when searching for the causeway passes, which seems to indicate that you might have to go some other way:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/about/questio
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It's pretty cool: a 4G liftoff, then 2 seconds of weightlessness. If you let go of a penny at the top, you can watch it fall with you as you drop for a second or two.
http://www.spacecamp.com/museum/attractions/mu_si
Maybe he meant to say a "shuttle launch"?
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Prepare to spend at least a few days waiting around in case the launch is delayed, and even then I remember arriving pretty early in the morning.
The neat part about this (besides the bus driver who drove us all out to the penninsula from the Visitor's Center), was they they piped the com chatter from Mission Control to the Orbiter (and back), over loud speakers placed along the viewing beach.
Link-Tastic (Score:3, Informative)
Causeway across the river? (Score:2, Interesting)
Grab some hot boiled peanuts!!! (Score:1)
Better yet... get a boat and hit the Atlantic.
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I would skip the boat. They keep the offshore waters pretty well cleared of boat traffic during a launch.
A few different areas? (Score:1)
I'm not sure if it's changed since then, but you can still see it from pret
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The only other shuttle launch I remember watching so
Kids these days (Score:1)
There's nothing like seeing a Saturn V go up, though. Geez, it must have been Apollo 13 (my youngest brother wasn't there, and I can't possibly be remembering Apollo 12). I think we were on the causeway, just standing by our parked car.
Still, I hope the kid is at least five, so the memory is of more than just the actual moment of launch.
Shuttle Launch (Score:3, Informative)
I've been beachside for a few of the rocket launches, my experience was about the same, just scaled down a bit. Unless you have binoculars it's hard to tell the difference between a shuttle launch and a rocket launch.
Unofficial Space Shuttle Launch Guide (Score:5, Informative)
If you do decide to go the route of buying a launch viewing ticket from the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, please be aware of the rather mercenary [ksctickets.com] policies in place if you buy a ticket and the launch is scrubbed. Delaware North runs the Visitors Center and the Astronaut Hall of Fame. They'll even charge astronaut families and invited guests for busing them out to the VIP viewing area -- at least they were three years ago. Don't know if that has changed.
Can't really go wrong (Score:5, Interesting)
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So anyone with mod points, please do as kunwon1 suggests and give parent some karmic joy! That was a good post!
Wallops Island (Score:4, Interesting)
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Call your senator (Score:5, Interesting)
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I sure must have been a great experience, you remember it with such detail.
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For fucks sake. (Score:3, Informative)
First result [sworld.com.au] is a big guide detailing all of those things mentioned in your question and with more than a dozen links to other related materials.
First result has changed - to this (Score:2)
The first Google result is now this Slashdot story.
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Get as close as you can (Score:3, Insightful)
As a kid they used to let us out of our elementary school classes to watch the Saturn V's take off. Eighty miles away in Orlando we could still see the flames. In fact we used to sit in the living room at home and watch the shuttles through the window, while the TV showed us the close up. Thats how we watched the Challenger explode.
So anywhere you get within twenty miles is going to knock your socks off. Just be prepared for delays that may sending you home with dissappointment.
Re:Get as close as you can...but no closer (Score:1)
Delays (Score:1)
there's nothing like being there (Score:1)
It was surprising to me how far away the shuttle was, that is until it launched. There is *nothing* like being there to witness the raw power expended to push a shuttle into orbit. It's worth the risk of missing the launch (we had 2 failed nights followed by the real thing). I
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Maybe he is just confused.
But the is something better than a launch (Score:2)
Astronaut Hall of Fame roof is a good spot (Score:3, Interesting)
I think to get closer (media area or Satrun V building), you need to either be related to someone on the shuttle, or maybe brown-nose your senator/congress people. Even those areas are around 3 miles away from the pad.
Only downside to AHF is the tower is just a little spike on the skyline, nothing like what you'd see from the media area. Price when we went down was basicly, buy an admission to the AHF, you could get up on the roof. They even had a projector showing NASA TV coverage on the wall of the Space Camp building....
Influence (Score:2, Informative)
Call Your Congressman/Senator (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember two things about the launch. First we saw liftoff and then several seconds later we felt the blast and the heat, and heard the roar of the engines. It was amazing how quickly the environment changed. It was like a wall of heat rushing over you. The second thing I remember is that on the way back to the car, it rained. I've always thought that it had to do to all the water vapor that injected into the air by rocket engines.
Anywhere (at night) (Score:2)
But i
Cocoa, along the river. (Score:2)
We watched it from Cocoa, not to be confused with Cocoa Beach, along the river...
Launch Sept. 6th, 7th or 8th (Score:3, Informative)
This might be actually be one of the best chances to see a launch, because they REALLY want to get this thing up into orbit by Sept. 8th. They've been chomping at the bit for 3 years to get going on ISS assembly and they've got the 2010 deadline. And as Tuesday's crawler reversal shows, they are pushing hard for this launch. Sept. 8th is a hard deadline, and after that they either have to relax rules (which they'd take a lot of grief for, both internally and externally) or wait until late October.
Road trip!
Get tickets and go the visitor's centre (Score:4, Informative)
My approach... (Score:3, Interesting)
... is to get lucky. While on vacation in Florida, I took my family to Kennedy Space Center and there just happened to be a lauch scheduled for later that day. We bought tickets, watched the shuttle go up and toured the space center.
So, there you go. Just show up and maybe they'll launch a shuttle for you like they did for us.
The summer is too hot (Score:1)
Still, we were 3 miles away, not as close as I wanted to be. We had to arrive 8-10 hours before the launch because of the traffic. And June in Florida is, well, too hot to be sitting out in a swamp for 8-10 hours. It was 100 degrees F with 98 percent humidity. If you go in the summer, bring lots of ice and a full tank of ga
I grew up near Cape Canveral.. (Score:1)
But I hear it is a cool experience none-the-less, but I have given up. Only i
Causeway, if you can get there (Score:2)
The only one you're likely to get to at short notice is the causeway, a
Same distacne as Nasa Causeway!! (Score:2, Informative)
As Routes 1 & 5 cut SW towards I95, you will see Route 3 (Kennedy Pkwy) extend SSE and head right past the VAB. (Of course you can't get that close). Heading down Route 3, you will come to a bridge that crosses over Haulover Canal (where is says Allenhurst on the map). The road was/is closed beyond the bridge, but there is a little sandy parking lot next to the bridge. It is the same distance as watching from the causeway itself. The road was closed be
First good Ask Slashdot (Score:2)
As far as this topic, this is pretty interesting. Very solid information, and if I ever want to do a similar thing, I know where to look for information.
RonB
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What about other (non-STS) launches? (Score:2)
-- Cameron
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Now, something you might consider, while nowhere near as large as a real launch, but still a fun day out that you and your kids will enjoy, is to attend a high-power model rocket gathering in your area. Despite the name of "model rocket", these things are anything but models - don't expect Estes launches here (although some clubs run small launches for kids in between the main launches). These things are as big as and act the same way as a regular missle (and if you want a "thundering" launch, the hybrid liquid NOS/solid fuel rockets are very fun to watch). Flights of +10,000-20,000 feet are not unheard of. These are great events to go to, many of them have vendors selling smaller kits, but if you buy, be prepared for a very expensive hobby (a rocket costing $5-10,000.00 to build, then exploding on the pad, is also not unheard of). Also, you need to be mindful of all warnings and such of the launches, and watch/listen to everything - I have seen large rockets lawn-dart not too far from crowds, and if you aren't looking, you could have a painful lesson.
But don't let that put you off - it can be a fun occasion for the entire family - bring some lawn chairs and binoculars, maybe a barbeque or a picnic basket. Lasts for a few hours, and you will have a great time, and meet some interesting people (at one I attended, I met a guy who successfully launched a homemade rocket he made out of PVC pipe and some two-by-fours - no kidding!)...
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But thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into the model rocketry clubs and see what I can find. In a metropolitan area of 5 million people there is bound to be something.
Thanks.
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You probably have seen the type: macho dudes with too much credit and not enough sense living in a cracker-jack box of the suburb home on a second mortgage (taken out to finance the big boat, truck, and jet skis he just had to have). Anyh
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But the best part was after the launch, when all the glory has gone, realizing that by the time we got back to the car, they were in orbit...
Watching a Space Shuttle launch (Score:4, Informative)
http://spacelaunchinfo.com/spaceview.html [spacelaunchinfo.com]
A "Space Launch Viewing FAQ Page" can be found at http://spacelaunchinfo.com/faq.html [spacelaunchinfo.com]
Information on launch holds and scrubs can be sent to your cell phone: http://spacelaunchinfo.com/holds.html [spacelaunchinfo.com]
Keep Smiling,
Cheshire
Richard Cheshire, The Cheshire Catalyst
my advice (Score:3, Informative)
One was behind Holiday Inn (wi-fi), and the other was one block north of McDonalds (grassy and shady). I slept in my car under a palm tree there overnight and wasn't bothered. That was last year, but I can't imagine it shouldn't have changed too much.
Advice: Get there early to get a good spot. Getting there the day before the launch will let you look around and pick any spot you want. 12 hours before will let you get a good spot, and 3 hours before launch will make it hard to find a place to park. It wasn't boring for me to get there early as the other people waiting for the launch were fairly interesting to talk to.
Also... I recomend waiting a while for traffic to clear before trying to leave. It's realy bad for an hour or so afterwards, but then it clears right up.
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Dead easy (Score:2)
Anywhere in Florida or South Georgia (Score:1)
On night launches, you can watch from my house as a bright ball of fire rises into the sky.
On a clear day, you can see it as well, depending on where the Sun is in relationship to the launch.
If you are anywhere even remotely close you are going to have a great view. If you want to hear the launch, I suspect that anywhere within 50-75 miles you'd be able to hear it.
Of course, HDNet is now broadcasting the launches in HD, so I will
Tampa! (Score:1)
The Jetties at the end of Port Canaveral (Score:2, Interesting)
I grew up ('68-'74) in Cape Canaveral. I lived longest just South of Cape View Elementary, which I attended, in the 500 block of Adams Ave. http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=559+Adams+Ave
Back in the day, the whole school would go out to watch "public" launches. Amazingly enough, everyone new when less public launches went up too!
Titusville is just West of the launch pads for the shuttles. You should be able to see the launch well from the coast looking eas
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