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Smash Bros Brawl Creators Hint at Sonic 196

Wowzer writes "Nintendo hopes that Solid Snake's appearance in Super Smash Bros. Brawl on Wii will encourage other publishers to allow their characters to join the Smash Bros. line-up, and is already actively negotiating for the rights to include at least one or two other non-Nintendo character. The plot thickens when Smash Bros. series director Masahiro Sakurai and Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto say that 'Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog is the character that Smash Bros. fans have requested the most.' This begs the question, which non-Nintendo characters are most likely to appear?"
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Smash Bros Brawl Creators Hint at Sonic

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  • by bsharitt ( 580506 ) <bsharitt AT gmail DOT com> on Sunday August 20, 2006 @09:24AM (#15943825) Homepage Journal
    If anything, this will give the old sega fanboys a chance to beat up on Mario with Sonic.
    • I dunno. There's some bad blood between Sega and Nintendo. If Nintendo gets exclusive rights, who's to say Sonic won't totally suck? They certainly won't overpower him.
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by pecko666 ( 684783 )
        Bad Blood ? Would not sa that .. Sega is currently pretty big supporter of Nintendo.
        • "Bad Blood ? Would not sa that .. Sega is currently pretty big supporter of Nintendo."

          Towards the end of the 16-bit era, I remember reading stories about Nintendo and Sega playing practical jokes on each other. Things like signs at conventions getting swtiched around. "32X SUX" or something like that. An inflatable Sonic punctured and thrown into a pool. A smashed N64 with the proclamation they didn't have fun with it. Stuff like that. Anybody else remember this? I'm sure I've got the details wrong.
          • I remember similar things with IE and Netscape.

            Here's one for the Slashdot crowd though, my mate Mark [], despite being a huge Nintendo fan and having a variety of import consoles, etc - never had a NES, and yet owned three or four CD-is - how fucked up is that?

          • I wouldn't be surprised if such pranks did happen, but remember that the end of the 16-bit era was about ten years ago now. Neither company is as proud now as they were then: Nintendo has gone from the undisputed champion of the console market to a distant also-ran, and Sega has gone from the close second to falling out of the hardware market entirely.

            Today both Sega and Nintendo are making a lot of money off of Sega-published titles running on Nintendo-produced hardware. Bad blood gets washed under the b
      • No matter how he ends up, it'll still give them an outlet to release some pent up frustration form the Genesis/SNES console wars, even if it is a bittersweet release, since they'd be playing on a Nintendo console.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          I'm not sure why Sega would be angry over the Genesis/SNES feud. After all, it was the time when Sega was most successful. They went from almost no marketshare to a close 2nd. The only ones who could have lost something in that feud was Nintendo (as it was the established leader). Their later problems were largely internal.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Yeah, there's so much bad blood between Sega and Nintendo that Nintendo had Sega develop the Gamecube F-Zero title! Those two companies sure do hate each other.
      • by Bozzio ( 183974 )
        Why would it have to be exclusive rights? Couldn't Sega just authorize and supervise the use of the Sonic character for that one game?
    • Reinact the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny [] by having Mario battle Sonic
    • I mean that would be like having both Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny in the same film! []

      My vote for a third party character would be Alex Kidd. He could start out the fight as being somewhat decent but as time goes on he would create a sucking vortex that no character could escape; just like his games!

      On another note... Solid Snake is still allowed on a plane, right? What about his brother Liquid Snake?
  • I know! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by JFMulder ( 59706 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @09:29AM (#15943836)
    Master Chief! Yeah, like that would happen.

    Seriously tough, how about someone from the Street Fighter series, but the baby version of the character, not the grown up one, which were showcased in some jewel Street Fighter based game.

    Please, NOT a Final Fantasy character, especially Sephiroth, Cloud or Vincent. Those characters have been showcased in other games enough.

    Seriously tough, how about Mega Man? He is similar to Samus tough gameplay wise, unless you have combos that allow him to change his style? That would make him pretty unique.

    Or, even tough he is not a video game character, maybe Samuel "The Man" Jackson? He's badass enough for this yet doesn't take himself seriously.
    • Re:I know! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by enharmonix ( 988983 ) <> on Sunday August 20, 2006 @09:45AM (#15943876)
      I second that motion. Make him like a cross between Kirby and Samus. Kill another player, and Mega Man inherits their powers. That would be way better than macaroni.
    • How about Edward, the weak cowardly prince-bard from FFIV? He can get beat up a lot then hide, adding nothing to the battle. He can also cause his beard to get killed because he cannot admit he is gay! How is that for a super power?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Belgarion89 ( 969077 )
      Or, even tough he is not a video game character, maybe Samuel "The Man" Jackson? He's badass enough for this yet doesn't take himself seriously.
      And he could beat up on Solid Snake on a Plane!
    • Baby? WTF are you on about?

      They're called Super deformed and have been around for decades.
    • The only extra character they need to add.
    • which were showcased in some jewel Street Fighter based game

      Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo, which had anime-ish versions of characters from SF2 and Dark Stalkers.
    • You mean Pocket Fighter, or one of the Puzzle Fighter games. Pocket Fighter rocked! SD (Super Deformed) versions of characters from Street Fighter, Red Earth and Darkstalkers/Vampire go head to head, knocking eachother senseless for Jewels.... weird game :3
  • Minsc! (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes! Raaaaghhhh!!!!
    • by wed128 ( 722152 )
      A little obscure... I liked Minsc, but i think too few players would get the referance.
      • The BG series is probably the most widely played RPG of all time... I think quite a few people would get the reference.

        Not only that but the obscurity would add to the attraction in my eyes. Kind of like "Mr. Game and Watch"...

        Not that I'm voting for Minsc...

        Myself, I would love to see somebody like Sarge from Q3A... Rocket Launcher FTW ;-)

      • by bynary ( 827120 )
        Obscure? Hardly. I've never played the game and I got the reference. Remember, this is Slashdot.
  • ... is Sierra's own Liesure Suit Larry. I don't want to know what his special weapon is, though.
    • by JFMulder ( 59706 )
      How about lame one liners? ;)
      • I anticipate a "buy you a drink and slip you some spanish fly" manoeuvre. I would say "works on female characters only," but there WAS that one time, Lar... He'll have to hit the casinos for the cash first, though!
      • Duke Nukem!

        Best. Character. Evar.
    • If we're gonna use Sierra characters, toss in King Graham! He could use.. uh... I know! He could drop some random, impossible-to-see item early on, and if his opponent doesn't pick it up, they suddenly drop dead 2 seconds from the end of the fight!

      Or include Rather Dashing.
    • "I don't want to know what his special weapon is, though."

      Spoiler: A lubber!
  • my vote (Score:3, Funny)

    by SharpFang ( 651121 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @09:49AM (#15943882) Homepage Journal
    Pyramid Head from Silent Hill.
    Would love seeing him vs Princess Peach.
  • Very improbable, but I want to see Commander Keen!
    • Yes, I agree. Commander Keen has all the cool stuff: the pogo stick, the awesome gun and the l33t jumping skills.

      I think he would fit right in. I think it would be a really good selling point if they allow people to create their own custom characters and upload to the game.
  • I'd like to see the guy from Altered Beast. Not sure I ever knew any names from that game, though.
  • How about Simon Belmont? Wario, too.
  • A few years ago, a few friends of mine and I came up with a list of Sega Characters we'd like to see in Smash Brothers. Unfortunately, Sega doesn't exactly have the multi series character lineup that nintendo has, so we were a bit pressed. Here's the list, though.
    Dr. Robotnick
    The two guys from Altered Beast

    Megaman characters would be a great addition to the game as well, although I'm not sure how much they count as Sega, as I think the last MegaMan game was realeased for the PS1/2
  • Two words... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RipperMortis ( 886995 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @10:15AM (#15943949)
    Pac Man.
    • Do you mean round 2D Pac Man, or the cartoonified happy face Pac Man of Pac Man World fame?

      Either way, that would be interesting, though his attack style is almost identical to Sonic's if you think about it.
  • ...Zero! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by HaloZero ( 610207 ) <> on Sunday August 20, 2006 @10:18AM (#15943953) Homepage
    From the Megaman X series!

    A yoshi character might be cool, too.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I like Yoshi and all, but his character SUCKED on the origional Super Smash Bros. I'm not gonna ask them to bring him back, that's for sure.
      • I donno if Yoshi was all that bad. Down + B had just about the strongest priority in the game, which meant you could pwn just about anything from above. Certainly, doing anything other than blocking it was a feat of incredible timing.
  • by AcidLacedPenguiN ( 835552 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @11:08AM (#15944076)
    I wouldn't mind seeing Leeroy Jenkins in there. . . maybe the cast of FF1, Fighter, BlackMage and Ninja would be pretty awesome. Again some of Capcom's characters would be pretty sweet, someone mentioned Gem Fighter SD style chars. . .In Fact, I wouldn't mind seeing Nintendo, Capacom, and SNK, to collaberate, like maybe making the "funny, non serious" Smashbros style, then the more serious Capcom VS SNK VS Marvel kind of thing.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by myster0n ( 216276 )
      This hasn't been said in this article, but there are some rules about adding third party characters :
      1. The character must have appeared on a Nintendo console in the past.
      2. Characters from manga/anime/cartoons that where made into a game are excluded (so no dragonball, xmen or spongebob characters for example, but sonic, which was a game character before he got his cartoon may be included).
  • It would be great if Sonic was in there, like EGM 'predicted' []...
    they say EGM fooling around with Sheng Long [] led to the character of Akuma being added to SF2 Turbo.
  • []

    (No, it's not really Samus naked. Just a bit of bad language.)

    Anyway, I personally would love to see Sonic in there, but I readily admit that would feel so weird, almost wrong.
  • More pokemon (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Turn-X Alphonse ( 789240 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @12:05PM (#15944230) Journal
    I'd like to see them include some more Pokemon characters. Maybe have a Zangoose (would be a great speedy brawler) or a Farfetch'd/Marowak who would use a club and a boomerang style attack system.

    Maybe even include some Digimon (Bandai arn't too harsh with their licencing) where you digivolved every time you beat another player. That way if you could rack up say 4 kills you would become quite powerful and instead of all going at it suddenly you'd be the main target.

    If we're talking game characters (even though the above have been in more games than a lot would even realize) I'd like to see Bomberman (old school) included, with alternative skins to include the Punk, cowboy and maybe the female bomber from 3.

    A Koopa troopa would be cool, they could even include a variety of shells on a level, so you can change your powers by jumping into them (Use the mario world system for this, it's simple and everyone knows whats going on).

    What I would really like to see expanded though is the maps. Melee was full of small maps where you had no real tactics other than to spam your best moves if you played more than 1 on 1. Where as some larger maps like Hyrule Castle would make for a weapon change.

    But then I suppose my "real" hope is they include some of the Mana series. Even if it's only making a kameo where Rabites appear in some level.
  • My Requests (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rubberbando ( 784342 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @12:21PM (#15944291)
    Crash Banditcoot
    Arthur from (Ghosts N' Goblins)
    Little Mac (Yes, I know he's a Nintendo Character)
    Ryu (From Street Fighter)
    Heihachi (From Tekken)
    Dirk The Daring and Singe(From Dragon's Lair)
    Gizmo and Stripe(From Gremlins)
    Bub and Bob (From Bubble Bobble)

    That's all I can think of for now...
    • Just FYI (since your post is totally clear given the context): "Shinobi" isn't the name of the character in the Shinobi series of games--it's a common Japanese word which is a synonym for "ninja". So the correct term would be "the ninja from the Shinobi games"--just like "Contra" isn't the name of the character either, so you'd have to say "the soldier from the Contra games" (which incidently, I would add to your list, along with Alex Kid).
    • The Guy from Bionic Commando

      Kid Chameleon

      Space Ace / Dexter (Forgot to mention him w/ Dirk The Daring)

      Bald Bull or King Hippo from PunchOut. :-P


      Kid Niki

      The Ninja from Ninja Gaiden (NES version)

      If they did do Sonic, I'd like to see more characters from that series such as Tails, Knuckles and MetalSonic.

      Stanley The Bugman from Donkey Kong 3


      Megaman X and Zero
  • How about every single one of the characters in the Ultimate Showdown Flash Animation? []

    Especially the guy who wins. That would be awesome.
  • by Turken ( 139591 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @12:39PM (#15944343)
    The character that really needs to be added is Phoenix Wright and his Index Finger of Doom!

    "Take That!"
  • would be an interesting pick and possibly more likely than others since his game is on a current system. All the different souls also gives a lot of flexibility for special moves. And then have Alucard as a hidden/mirror character with slightly different powers.
  • He needs a villian! They have Koopa, wario, mario (to dk) ect. Sonic would need a villian to go with him.

    Now who could that be... hmmm...
  • ...I would say that Krystal from Star Fox Adventures/Assault would be a good addition.

    First, she's from a second-party game, so it doesn't really break the whole "Nintendo characters" thing.

    Second, she would use the SFAdventures staff as her weapon, which could work pretty well. It can be her jump boost (using the rocket part), it can shoot some sort of beam, it can shoot fire and ice, it can be used to hit people with. She would make a well rounded character with her own attacks. (Although she'd be quick,
  • by hords ( 619030 ) on Sunday August 20, 2006 @01:29PM (#15944526)
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. If done well it could be cool.

    My personal favorite would be Thundercats. It'll never happen, but I can dream.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by 7Prime ( 871679 )

      Oh god NO!

      I love ChronoTrigger, but this is just a BAD IDEA! If you introduce one Square RPG character, a good 90% of Square RPG fans are going to be yelling, "why not Terra from FF6, why not Cecil from FF4... (gulp) why not Cloud from FF7?!!!", and thus begins WWIII. Suddenly you open up the series to becoming "Final Fantasy Bros", and as much as I like the FF series, and Square's other RPGs, there are WAY too many characters, there's way too many hot-issues, including a lot of bad blood between fans of

  • What about Wart from Super Mario Bros 2? I don't think he's been in any other games even though he is part of the Mario universe, when enemies like Birdo have been seen again.

    Some other ideas:
    Bubbles, the fish like thing from Clu Clu land
    Some enemy from Metroid... Ridley? Kraid?
    R.O.B. (hey, he's in Mario Kart on the DS)
    Bub and/or Bob from Bubble Bobble (kinda like the Ice Climbers)
    Whatever that guy's name was in Kung Fu
    The guy from Balloon Fight
    Little Mac from Punch-Out
  • I vote for the dog from nethack. Nothing like kicking butt with a fully rendered "d" in all it's glory.
    • Since this thread has turned into "WHO DO YOU WANT IN THE NEXT SMASH BROS GAME?":
      Alex & Ryan, from River City Ransom. They're already fighting characters with plenty of moves, even!
      • by bynary ( 827120 )
        Considering that the last sentence of the /. post was This begs the question, which non-Nintendo characters are most likely to appear? what did you expect? Personally, I'd like to see one of the following:

        Bionic Commando
        Battle Toads
        Roger Clemens (Roger Clemen's Baseball, anyone?)
        The Snakes from Snake, Rattle, & Roll
  • C'mon. This was taken from an interview that came out about a week after Brawl's big (and only) announcement. And with the original announcement was the idea that there would be a poll to see what everyone (in Japan)'s favorite characters were to be put in Brawl. If I remember, Sonic had over 50% of the vote, followed by Megaman and Ridley (along with a few others).

    Basically, Sonic's inclusion is totally insured. Nintendo pretty much HAS to do it now, or risk looking like the poll was a total scam. At thi

  • I was hoping they would include more Nintendo owned charcters like Kid Icarus! /silly
  • I'd love to see Mai Shiranui [] join the SSBB! She's dreamy.
  • that would be sweet
  • by SuiteSisterMary ( 123932 ) <slebrun@[ ] ['gma' in gap]> on Monday August 21, 2006 @03:28PM (#15950515) Journal

    Hundred and eighty some-odd posts, and no requests for CatS from Zero Wing?

  • and to stop a lot of the wild speculation.

    They only have room for, at most, 5 3rd party characters (and Solid Snake already takes up one of those slots).

    Only characters who have appeared in a game on a Nintendo console (home or handheld) are acceptable. (Sonic is viable due to 3 Sonic GBA games, and Sonic Rush on DS.)

    There was a poll on Sakurai's blog, and Sonic came in first, I don't remember what the other characters were, but a few dedicated Nintendo fansites reported on it a month or so after E3

  • He thinks he is a guy and he spits eggs from his mouth. He'd rather be called 'Birdetta'.

    What's not to love? :)

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