New Griefer Punishment - Crucification 119
garylian writes "I found this interesting little news snippet from the game Roma Victor. Apparently, the game designers have decided that since their game is going to be based on realistic events that happened in the Roman Empire in Europe, there is nothing wrong with handing out punishments that were handed out in that time. The game's site has a letter from the Publisher's CEO explaining about how crucification is an appropriate form of punishment for in-game behavior. There are also pictures of the avatar hanging from his week-long perch."
Crucifixion? (Score:2, Funny)
1st in 2K years? (Score:3, Interesting)
Didn't the Nazis crucify a few people in a concentration camp as part of an experiment?
Also. In some catholic cultures a few zealots are crucified on Good Friday each year. Unlike other crucifixions however these people 1. Volunteer for the "procedure" and 2. are removed from the cross on the same day and provided medical attention. The usually survive.
Crucifixion was a very slow torturous execution. Men would hang on crosses for days befor
Yuck! (Score:2)
Britain To Witness First Crucifixion In 2000 Years (Score:1)
Crucified gamer, Tuesday, April 4, 2006
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_artic le_id=11519&in_page_id=2 [metro.co.uk]
So pathetic (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:So pathetic (Score:2)
Maybe the Devs multispawned him after putting an EKG on a BBQ. Did what I just said mean anything?
Re:So pathetic (Score:1)
NPK - Non Player Killer. NPK Timer after death prevents spawn camping in PVP games that have it instead of a 'Ghost' after death.
If you have respawning in a PVP MMORPG, you damn well better have an NPK time after death or you shouldn't be developing an MMORPG because you obviously can't even comprehend game mechanics at all. That's all I can say about the Roma Victor Devs.
Re:So pathetic (Score:2)
That would explain the abject failure of World of Warcraft then. Now crucifixion of griefers I like, wonder if they could do it for real
Re:So pathetic (Score:1)
Re:So pathetic (Score:1)
Re:So pathetic (Score:2)
PvP means Player versus Player (unlike you I don't throw acronyms about to make myself seem a better player) so when one person attacks another in a game that allows it, it's PvP. Claiming it isn't, is just RPG (role playing game) elitism.
-Jar.
Re:So pathetic (Score:2)
If not, well, that's what I call PvP and also say that WoW's PvP isn't
Check your facts (Score:1, Informative)
None of what you said is actually true. I'm going AC because I'm a tester at Roma Victor and I was there. The game's still in development and the guy was exploting a spawn point on a test server while your "NPK" mechanics weren't working. T
Can we somehow incorporate that here? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Can we somehow incorporate that here? (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, I know you're trolling, too... (Score:3, Insightful)
I have not only friends, but family members pretty much all across the political spectrum. If you're so overzealous about your progressive, liberal, uber-tolerant views
Re:I've said it before... (Score:3, Funny)
*eyeroll*
Crucification is a word? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:1)
Welcum Mr. Prez - log in so we can see ya!
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:1)
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:1)
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:1)
The word "crucification" is not used in the article at all, either, so they can't even blame it on that.
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:2)
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:1)
results for google search:
(http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls =org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=%22cruci fication%22&btnG=Google+Search [google.com])
Surprised, confused, unsure: that's me now.
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd say they're quite likely to be confused spellers. The one that surprises me is danielpipes.com, supposedly a Christian site. Hasn't the author ever been to church?
Obligatory Monty Python quote (Score:1)
We apologise for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible have been sacked.
Re:Crucification is a word? (Score:2, Funny)
Punishment (Score:3, Funny)
In my day, we put their heads on a pike and fed their bodies to the dogs, and we liked it.
Why not just strip them of their gear, and exile them from the city, never to return on penalty of death.
Old Jokes 101 (Score:4, Informative)
If you're going to use an old formula for a joke, get it right. The formula is:
In my day, [we did something horrible and exaggerated to ourselves] and we liked it.
Examples:
- In my day, we walked ten miles to school in sleet and hail, uphill both ways, and we liked it.
- In my day, we played computer games off of LP records. If you wanted to write your own, you'd have to get a needle and a magnifying glass, but we liked it that way.
The whole joke is doing something ridiculous and unpleasant and liking it ('cause you weren't spoiled like rotten kids today). It's not really all that incongruous to say that you did horrible things to other people and liked it. That's just human history right there. What exactly implies that kids are spoiled today for not getting to put their enemies' heads up on pikes?
Re:Old Jokes 101 (Score:2)
Maybe not for you. Sadist much?
Re:Punishment (Score:2)
Oh yeah. I'm sure *you* liked it. But what about the punished? I'm sure they were terribly upset about all that!
Sounds pretty neat (Score:3, Interesting)
As much as I'm against it in RL, for the simple reason that a one-time criminal is going to be branded as a criminal forever, it's a bit different for games. You can, after all, toss your character and start another one.
Is there a more literal way of "changing completely and becoming a very different person"?
Re:Sounds pretty neat (Score:2, Insightful)
Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:5, Informative)
Crucifixion [wikipedia.org] was in fact a fairly common form of punishment throughout much of the Roman Empire. It was both a particularly painful and notably humiliating way to die; victims often lingered in agony for days while being jeered at by passers-by. Few understand that Longinus [wikipedia.org] did Jesus a huge favor when he stabbed him in the side with his spear.
It will be interesting to see how this punishment works out in Roma Victor. As the player will feel no pain, and loses only a week of game time while on the cross, the real punishment will come if others in the game take having been crucified as a mark of shame rather than a boastworthy accomplishment. Given typical online-game culture, I fear the latter is more likely.
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:5, Informative)
To check that he's dead. The fact that both red and clear liquids come out is the medical evidence that convinces doctors that he was in fact dead.
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
Spray? (Score:2)
Re:Spray? (Score:2)
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:1)
It wasn't good enough to _think_ he was dead. They had to _know_. There are several reasons for this, some more obvious than others, but the most obvious reason for those who were there at the time is that if he wasn't dead, they needed to break his legs so he'd die quickly, because they needed to get the dying men off the crosses before the holiday.
So they stuck a spear in to see what came out. The blood had already separated, so blood and water came out separate
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
For the same reason that 'dead' gladiators would have hot iron brands applied to their feet; try to catch fakers. Longinus is usually regarded as having stabbed too hard; it's supposed to be a prick, basically, to the lower ribs that would cause in involuntary flinch. If Jesus wasn't already dead, he would be pretty quickly, from the stab wound.
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
They demanded that I admit that both characters were played by me, but of course I played them as if they did not know each other. These wizards then proceeded to torture my characters ingame for over an hour before finally banning them.
To
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:3, Interesting)
It they REALLY didn't like you they'd give you a little seat to sit on. Then you could last until you died of dehydration (a couple days) or I guess of starvation if they really, really didn't like you.
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:3, Funny)
That is a joke right?
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
I'm a grad student, I can believe it.
They used ropes instead of nails (real crucifixions often used ropes too) and obviously didn't leave them up there until they were in serious danger.
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:2)
That is a joke right?
Not to the students!
Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:1)
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Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:1)
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Re:Crucifixion? Yes, first door on the left... (Score:1)
well done, PR department! (Score:4, Interesting)
Regardless, only a 7-day suspension? If they really wanted to punish the guy they'd change it so that on his next logon the offender was stuck playing an SOE game.
Re:well done, PR department! (Score:2)
MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on line (Score:2)
Re:MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on l (Score:3, Funny)
Re:MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on l (Score:2)
I guess they could let them down to break rocks, but that's not nearly as entertaining.
Hey, it was the Roman empire, just revoke their citizenship and make them slaves for a while.
Re:MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on l (Score:2)
Hey, that's a great idea.
Rather than ban the player for seven days, send them to a prison where they're released once they perform boring, repetitive tasks until they earn their freedom.
Hmm, actually, I guess that basically describes most of the MMORPG experience, so nevermind.
Re:MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on l (Score:2)
Hey, sounds just like the jail in Nexus. [nexustk.com]
Hmm, actually, I guess that basically describes most of the MMORPG experience, so nevermind.
No, that describes the RPG experience.
Some people will never actually get the MMO part of it. There are communities, they are persistent, and they always have the game world and gameplay as a metaphor and reference poi
Re:MOdification to crucifixion time! Spend it on l (Score:2)
The traditional one, yes. I was mostly joking, but the boring repetition is why I've given up most RPGs over time. I thought Morrowind did a good job of eliminating the level-grind aspect, so that's the one kind I'll still play.
Ouch, that's just cruel (Score:2)
Now now, I dislike griefers as much as the next guy, but forcing them to play a SOE MMO is just cruel and might leave permanent damage. We're no longer in the middle ages, you know. Regardless of what evil deeds someone did, you can't just strap someone to a chair and subject them to chinese water torture [wikipedia.org] or a modern day SOE equivaletnt until their sanity crumbles.
Joke aside... act
Re:Ouch, that's just cruel (Score:1)
> and may do whatever it pleases with it, including deleting it and display it on a cross
> on Golgotha. But that ownership may extend only to the bytes and bytes in that data, not
> to the player who "created" that data.
I think altering the gameplay experience for the player falls under the category of owning the game, not owning the player. I don't think the other poster intended to indicate that the play
Obligatory (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Obligatory (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Obligatory (Score:1)
My best friend over there is Sp4rtacus, and his brother is 5p4r4cus, and there there's....
H.
Oblig "Life of Brian" quote... (Score:3, Funny)
Coordinator: Crucifixion?
Stan: Yes.
Next prisoner.
Stan: Er, no, freedom actually.
Coordinator: What?
Stan: Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.
Coordinator: Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then.
Stan: No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really.
laughing
Stan: Yes I know, out of the door, one cross each, line on the left.
Re:Oblig "Life of Brian" quote... (Score:2, Funny)
MATTHIAS: No.
CENTURION: Crucifixion.
MATTHIAS (uninterested): Oh.
CENTURION: Nasty, eh?
MATTHIAS: Hm. Could be worse.
CENTURION: What do you mean 'could be worse'?
MATTHIAS: Well, you could be stabbed.
CENTURION: Stabbed? Takes a second. Crucifixion lasts hours. It's a slow, 'orrible death!
MATTHIAS: Well, at lest it gets you out in the open air.
CENTURION: You're weird.
rather dissapointingly (Score:2)
Re:rather dissapointingly (Score:1)
Re:rather dissapointingly (Score:2)
No (Score:1)
Jesus, i believe, was tied and nailed. (If he existed, etc..)
If you've ever tried nailing someone suspended to something with nails through their palms, it doesn't work. The hand just splits down the middle under their own weight.
Re:No (Score:2)
Re:rather dissapointingly (Score:2)
Good! (Score:1, Funny)
Old News (Score:3, Interesting)
Cruel and Unusual (Score:5, Funny)
Some would say that having to live in Michigan was punishment enough.
Dismemberment or other mayhem (Score:2)
Re:Dismemberment or other mayhem (Score:1)
Notoriety... (Score:1)
messianic complex (Score:1)
More than that (Score:2)
- Add a surcharge of 25% for any financial transaction. The recipient of the transaction would still only get the requested amount, but the payor would pay the requested amount + 25% tax to the game.
Re:Good (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe, but it's also spawned a monstrosity of a spelling mistake that seems to be infectious. I think it would be safest if we quarantine Slashdot and not let anyone leave until there's a curification for it.
Re:Good (Score:1)
Re:Good (Score:5, Informative)
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As to only one survivor, I would doubt that. The whole point of crucifixion is that it is a degrading, painful, and long way to die. Records exist of strong men (eg. deserting soldiers) lasting up to three days on the cross before dying.
Re:Good (Score:2)
Huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
First it was a way of treating slaves that tried to escape, later, during the time of the emperors, it became the way of executing non-romans. That's the reason why Saulus/Paulus was executed with a sword instead of crucifixion (he was a Roman citizen).
Is there really anyone who thinks the Romans came up with crucifixion for Jesus? I mean, for them he was a quite ordinary criminal (and one they couldn't have cared less about to top it off), why'd they go to lengths and come up with an ingenious way to execute him?
Re:Huh? (Score:2)
Well, while it was a common punishment, by the time of Jesus the Romans reserved crucifixion almost exclusively for one crime: treason. Jesus would have hardly been considered an ordinary criminal, except for the fact that Judaea was already a hotbed of rebellion and insurrection against Rome at the time. The Romans considered him a pretender to the throne of David, and inspiring Jewish secession from the Empire, hence the motto Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum over his head. The two guys crucified along wi
Re:Good (Score:3, Funny)
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