New International Serenity Trailer Released 306
Tenken writes "The international Serenity trailer has just popped up online and it looks to be even shinier than the first. This new trailer doesn't really spell out the plot of the film as explicitly as the first one, but for that reason it may play better with fans. Chiwetel Ejiofor's "Operative" character is also shaping up to be one of those memorable Whedon villains along the lines of Jubal Early from the episode "Objects in Space.""
For those that are clueless... (Score:5, Informative)
MirrorDot: http://mirrordot.org/stories/cf80588bb543b2334180
Re:For those that are clueless... (Score:2)
All I need to figure out is what the hell Firefly is.
Thankfully, Google never fails. [ohio-state.edu]
BitTorrent version (Score:2)
Can't wait! (Score:2, Interesting)
Someone tipped me off about the original TV series about a year ago...after getting the movies from Netflix, I was blown away by how great they are...what an unfortunate turn of events that they got cancelled so soon. I can't wait for this movie!
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Re:Can't wait! (Score:5, Funny)
Mal: "What? Come on, seriously, Zoe. Whaddya think?"
Zoe: "Honestly, sir? I think you got robbed."
Mal: "Robbed? What? No. What do you mean?"
Zoe: "It's a piece of fei-oo." [fei-oo. = junk]
Mal: "Fei-oo? Okay, she won't be winning any beauty contests anytime soon.
But she's solid. Ship like this, be with ya 'til the day you die."
Zoe: "Cause it's a deathtrap."
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
I originally expected that Buffy was likely to be just schlock... A TV version of a really good bubble-gum movie. When I finally got around to watching it (because a friend had asked my roommate to tape all the episodes (then being brooadcast daily on the Space channel), I fell in love with it. It really is brilliant, and goes far beyond the de
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
I see a lot of what I liked about the series in the trailer. In particular, the acting was pretty damned solid in the series. A major criteria for me in film is that you have to care about the characters. Good actors help that immensely, even with a fragile script or poor production. Poor acting sinks even the best of scripts.
Re:Can't wait! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
As a matter of fact, if you guys took a book, any sci fi book or graphic novel. Say Slashdot decided to host a petition to get a film done: half a million unique signatures would get that book serious consideration by a studio or independent investor. Find an obscure book and buy the option from the author for pennies before you pitch it here so when the studios come calling, you can up the price and profit (with flowthrough to the original author, of course) Anything would be better than this Whedon guy.
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
I'll run some laps, thanks.
lol.
Re:Can't wait! (Score:4, Interesting)
A Firefly-fan friend of mine already saw the movie. He was very apprehensive after seing the trailers, and left quite, quite pleased with the movie (and has had to resist spoiling it for me).
Unrealistic fight scenes
How many fight scenes did you see in firefly? Or are you judging a movie and the series that it is based on from a few seconds of (barfight?) scene in a trailer?
utterly anachronistic one-liners
Actually, some of the best parts of Firefly are where one-liners would have been used in most shows, but weren't. For example, Mal's "huh.." after the discovery of River.
cookie cutter set and ship design
Firefly actually stands out in that they built the entire ship set as one complete piece.
queue the messianic character
Are you referring to River or Mal? If you're referring to River, I think the Bible would have been a lot more interesting with Jesus talking about how quickly the human body can be drained of blood given adequate vacuuming systems, claiming that he's a ship, speaking incoherently, and threatening to kill people with his brain.
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2, Funny)
What do you think is written in those secret books of the Bible kept in the vaults in the Vatican?
In the Gospel of Vernon, threats of killing them with his brain was how Jesus got the money-changers out of the temple. And he mentioned the blood/v
Re:Can't wait! (Score:3, Informative)
What you're writing is sorta neat, but it's not necessarily edgy in a new and good manner.
What I see in Joss' stuff is good characters with depth, that develop over time, and humor that is mostly achived by putting realistic characters in absurd (but in context for the assumed macguffins) situations and watching the results.
Yo
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
Drinking the sand. (Score:3, Insightful)
If we don't encourage them to get it right, how will they ever learn?
--grendel drago
Re:Can't wait! (Score:3, Insightful)
Whedon is formulaic, but formulaic like Silverado or Raiders of the Lost Ark were. He knows the genre and he knows what buttons to push and he tries to push all of them. That means he needs interesting plot twists and unexpected surprises, but it also means the audience knows that the "thump in the dark" is really a cat, and when they calm down the bad guys jumps out at you anyway.
For example, this film has
Re:Picking up empty popcorn bags... (Score:2)
let see.
personal attack (check)
AC posting (check)
lol. you're already on solid footing. please continue.
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
Re:Can't wait! (Score:2)
Another version (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Another version (Score:3, Informative)
if you don't have/want itunes.
Re:Another version (Score:2)
Re:Another version (Score:3, Informative)
I hate trailers... (Score:5, Insightful)
Good. I hate watching trailers that give away too much of the film. The worse is when it's a particularly bad film and you realize that all the good parts were IN the trailer.
I love trailers... (Score:2)
(How can you tell? If there are three good jokes and six so-so jokes, the odds are that they're reaching for material just to fill three minutes. Occasionally a film is better than the trailer makes it out to be, but generally it's on the money.)
Re:I hate trailers... (Score:2, Funny)
Thinking of a certain movie you are, hm?
Re:I hate trailers... (Score:3, Informative)
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Curse you!!! (Score:5, Funny)
*sigh*, so, here I am, downloading at a whopping 5k/s.
Of all the days to stop taking methamphetamines...
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Curse you!!! (Score:2)
pfft (Score:2)
thank you axel.
Coral Cache (Score:2)
Works like a Charm
Firefly Podcast (Score:5, Informative)
Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. (Score:5, Funny)
Simon: "What'd he do?"
Early: "Who?"
Simon: "The midget."
Early: "Arson. Little man loved fire."
Re:Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. (Score:2)
(River/Serenity laughs)
Early: "You folks are all insane."
Simon: "Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood."
Early: "Doesn't anybody care that I have a finely crafted gun pointed at this
boy's head?"
I think, to sum up the series, though, one quote really does a good job:
Kaylee: "Well, we're headed for help... right?"
Zoe: "Captain will come up with a plan."
Kaylee: "That's good. Right?"
Zoe: "Possibly you're not recalling some
Re:Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. (Score:2, Funny)
Mal is in a life-and-death struggle with a man who was torturing him for hours. Just as he's getting the slight upper hand in the fight, his crew comes storming in with guns at the ready.
When one crew member raises her gun, Zoe interrupts her...
Zoe: "Wait... [earnestly] He has to do this himself."
Mal: "No he doesn't!"
Zoe: "Oh."
Then the crew proceeds to shoot the bad guy. Priceless!
Personal favorite (Score:2)
Simon: "Are you Alliance?"
Early: "Am I a lion?"
Simon: "What?"
Early: "I don't think of myself as a lion. You might as well, though. I have a mighty roar."
Simon: (pause) "I said 'Alliance'."
Early: "Oh." (pause) "That was weird."
Re:Personal favorite (Score:2, Funny)
Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
Re:Personal favorite (Score:2, Funny)
actually it's even better than that:
You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here. ~ Jayne Cobb
Jayne always had some great lines (actually everyone did) [wikiquote.org]
another good jayne quote:
Mal: Can't get paid if you're dead.
Jayne: Can't get paid if you crawl away like a bitty little bug neither. I got a s
Re:Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. (Score:2)
Book: The government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned.
Simon: Now you're quoting the Captain.
Niska: I think this is not enough. Not enough for two. But sufficient, perhaps for one. Ah... you now have --
Zoe: Him.
Zoe: I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?
Mal: So. I hear you all took up arms in that little piece of action back there. How you faring with that, doctor?
Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyo
Plot (Score:3, Funny)
Premise: Evil technocrat (Taco) unleashes hordes of his minions on the poor defenseless webserver.
The Series (Score:5, Informative)
If you haven't seen Firefly.... (Score:3, Insightful)
I remember seeing part of the first episode and thinking, "Eh, just a western set in the future." and (due to work obligations) never saw the rest of the episodes. I recently picked up the DVDs and was blown away by the quality of character development and story line! Light-years beyond what I'd thought when I saw the snippet when it originally aired.
I'd really love to see Firefly come back to TV (SciFi Channel) and see more of what Josh Whedon has to offer! Can't wait for the movie!
Thank Goodness the Trailer has no spoilers... (Score:2)
Jubal Early (Score:2)
Soundtrack (Score:2)
www.cantstopthesignal.co.uk [cantstopthesignal.co.uk]
IMDb sure has evil administrators (Score:5, Funny)
Wow...
Hmm, I wonder how that algorithm works anyway, if it's automated.
corrupt .mov file? (Score:4, Informative)
WinXP SP2, QT 6.5.2, about 9/10 of the way through the movie, firefox hangs up, and I had to kill it with Task Manager.
Recommend a separate download, and play outside of the browser.
Re:corrupt .mov file? (Score:2)
Sorry, pal, I tried that.
Hoses Windows XP big time no matter what.
Windows is total shit.
Use Linux only to play this trailer - and I'm not sure that will work.
Re:corrupt .mov file? (Score:2)
Re:corrupt .mov file? (Score:2)
They killed it. (Score:2)
Did you hear that?
They put engine noises in space.
The series was very careful to NEVER put ANY noises in space. That's one of the reasons the show was awesome - they didn't feed us fake physics. Hell, they killed a guy by making him lose his grip on the ship!
So what? There's going to be some lame-ass scifi movie that dumbs down everything we know. Oh yeah, I'll line up for that.
.wvm files require a license? (Score:2)
BBH
Gotta pop my cherry sometime! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:2, Informative)
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:2, Informative)
WTFT.
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:2)
Usually trailers and hype happens before the movie hits the theater. Serenity is due Sept 30th.
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:2)
This is interesting. Kids usually don't go to films the first month of school. Their parents start to embrace the theaters in September, but they only see quality films. There's been a bit of a row over the fact that Cinderall
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:2)
They have also stated that they now regret the decision, because the audience turnout and reaction for the previews has stunned them enough to think that it would have held its own against SW3:ROTS.
Re:will someone please explain this to me (Score:4, Interesting)
Perfect example of such a film is "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" which was released on 9/17. It went on to gross ~$60 million worldwide boxoffice, with a production budget of about 70 million (the budget was actually closer to 100 because of CGI cost overruns).
It was originally scheduled to be released in the summer, but it would have been crushed. With little competition it was unable to earn back its budget domestically.
Serenity's production budget is listed at $40 million. This means its marketing budget is somewhere around $20-25 million, probably... Let's assume $65 million as the figure in question.
The film has to double its budget (assuming equitable split between exhibitor and distributor, which isn't always the case) in box office receipts to ensure zero risk for Universal at stage one of the revenue stream. It has to earn $130 million at the box office in OCTOBER! That's a stretch.
So what is more likely is that Universal is willing to take a loss on box office, which they are conceding by moving it to September so that they can get all the box office revenue possible (less competition). Geeks are loyal DVD purchasers, so they are banking on DVD sales to not only offset any loss, but for DVD sales themselves to buck the trend of flattening DVD sales as the DVD market matures.
No one releases a press release stating that they think their movie is going to fail, so refering to one in this instance doesn't amount to much. Also, other films released early summer, with established stars and directors (for example: Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom and Ridley Scott) failed miserably... with much bigger marketing budgets and the entire summer audience to cater to.
Because they want the best release possible (Score:5, Informative)
They probably have a relatively small advertising budget. So,
2. You don't want to compete with the summer blockbusters - because you don't want to compete with their advertising budget. So you schedule a fall release to not compete with them.
3. You want to magnify your small $ as much as possible. So you release trailers on RELEVANT movies that interested people are going to see. And you do what you can to make your fans advertise for you for free/cheap.
Re:Serenity (Score:2)
Re:Serenity (Score:2)
SERENITY NOW!
Hey, you plagiarized my sig!
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Well, that's what I got from the writeup, anyhow. The article itself is unreadable.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
Until, just a few months back, I gave in to all of my geek friends telling me how amazing it is and bought the DVDs. It's amazing.
The problem with the show as I (and I assume, you) originally viewed it was that Fox showed the series out of order - the episode we saw had no context. We didn't know anything about the characters, universe, or meta-story.
Rent/Buy the DVDs and watch them in order - you'll be glad you did.
-gary
Rent/buy dvds or watch it on SciFi (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Rent/buy dvds or watch it on SciFi (Score:2)
Hey, if you got a recommendation from a friend you trust that it is good, and it's already out on DVD, I consider that a very good time to put down money for it. The quality and convienience of a DVD can't be beat. I wish most shows were like that, unfortunately I find out about them long before they air on TV here, far less come on DVD...
Here's a tip for TV producers: DO NOT KEEP YOUR CUSTOMER WAITING. There are people who would kill to ge
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:3, Interesting)
Apart from BSG, the current state of sci-fi shows sucks. Fox killed off my other fav sci-fi show before its time... it seems they have a knack for doing that. At least with Firefly it wasn't upsetting.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
But that's just it - you didn't see the "premier", you saw the episode Fox showed first - big difference. It's like starting LotR with the Two Towers and blaming Tolkien because the story doesn't make sense.
Look at it this way; by watching Firefly (as mentioned above, showing on Sci-Fi (didn't know that, thanks)) what you'll really be doing is thumbing your noses at the marketing idiots at Fox who were sure they knew how best to "position" the show, against the wishes of the creative folks.
-gary
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Oh, so there are differing definitions of "premiere". Silly me to think that "premiere" would be the first showing of something.
Look at it this way; by watching Firefly (as mentioned above, showing on Sci-Fi (didn't know that, thanks)) what you'll really be doing is thumbing your noses at the marketi
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, it matters.
And it's really worth watching in order. Seriously. Sacrifice a Netflix queue slot. Or better yet, just wait until later in August when Sci-Fi will run the entire series IN ORDER, in the run-up to the movie's premier at the end of September.
no, the problem is inane dialog (Score:2)
No. The problem is that most of Whedon's characters all sound, talk and behave the same way across every series he's touched. He writes dialog full of cutesy banter to cover for characters which couldn't possibly be more one dimensional if they tried, and plots which are so predictabl
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
I certainly hope you're not saying that a show being canceled means it isn't good. All of my favorite shows have been canceled (at least once): Wonderfalls, Futurama, Farscape, Family Guy, and (though not officially) The Inside. Instead of these shows we have shows like So You Think You Can Dance. Cancelation != poor quality.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Space Above and Beyond was cancelled during it's first season. No it wasn't the greatest, but it was definitely good. The first episodes were decidedly average, but given the last two thirds of the season it probably rates as one of the best Sc
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
My advice to anyone who first watches the DVD's:
Watch the first three episodes (force yourself if you have to), then make your mind up.
I've not yet had one person come back to me saying they disliked it after following that advice, but most of them said they hated the first episode.
I only watched one episode (Score:2)
Although I love Joss Whedon's work on shows like Angel which was dark and as soon as you thought the show was pradictable and boring it would throw you curveball and completely change.
After seeing the trailer for this, I really want to see this movie.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:3, Informative)
You might try renting the first DVD from NetFlix and watching the first four shows in order. And the show did get stronger and stronger as each episode progressed. I found the premier shown on Fox to be dull as well, but I kept with it anyway and was rewarded. And when I finally saw the two hour pilot, I was hooked. I own it
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Did you watch more than a few episodes? In the right order?
Were you hoping for more action?
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. Personally, I saw a few glimpses on Fox and was never that intrigued. Later, I rended the first disc from Netflix and I was hooked. Firefly had more thoughtful writing, more compelling characters, and a better mix of drama, humor, and action than I had ever seen in a TV series.
If you enjoy a drama with good writing, characters, settings, and (usually) plots, you might
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Hoping for more action? Not really, although that might have saved it. The story is enough for me, and the "premiere that wasn't a premiere but really the
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Is "shiny" a common adjective among the fanboys (Score:2)
Re:Is "shiny" a common adjective among the fanboys (Score:2)
I concur (Score:3, Insightful)
Similarly, I saw the first Serenity trailer and my immediate reaction was that this movie looks like one of the worst pieces of sci-fi fanboy garbage to
Re:I concur (Score:2)
Everyone's saying it, but I'll say it again... watch all four DVDs in the boxed set (just borrow it or rent it or something), read the three Dark Horse comics that are coming out (the first one came out on 7/13/05), and then see the movie in September. It's just too da
chick doing kung fu (Score:2)
Re:I concur (Score:3, Interesting)
The show was all about the characters. The culture. The universe they inhabited. It wasn't about the sci-fi technology or technobabble or any of that stuff. It was about connections and motivations and wit.
Seriously, give the show a c
Irony (Score:5, Insightful)
and
The new battlestar Galactica is full of space ships, people shooting guns and hot chicks doing kung-fu. And it's even on the Sci Fi channel.
Re:I concur (Score:3, Insightful)
Please tell me you aren't trying to make a critical judgment about a body of work that comprises fourteen "hour" long episodes and now a feature film, based on a sixty second trailer? Do you do book reviews based on blurbs on the dust jacket?
There is no telling if you would enjoy the movie but if you haven't ever seen the series it might be worth your time to rent the DVD's of the series. Like many others I saw a few of the oddly sequenc
Re:good movie? (Score:5, Insightful)
What I really liked about the show is that the characters aren't tired "bad boys", but instead is a revival of "The Han Who Shot First" and his adventures in the outer rim territories, his dealings with the Hutts, the rabble he associated with... Yes they run outside the law, but it's refreshing to see situations where there's no clear "sheep" answer to a situation. Case in point: Train Job - the crew has a choice to make and neither outcome is very attractive - good vs. evil is much less exciting than evil vs. worse evil! It's this complexity that I miss about the series.
Hello, my name is LqqkOut and I am a fanboy.
Re:good movie? (Score:3, Informative)
If you haven't seen it before, you should check out the old BBC sci-fi "Blake's 7" -- now, there was a show full of "bad boys". The concept was that Blake, a freedom fighter up against a corrupt interstellar Federation, gathered together a crew of pirates and thieves to pursue freedom. But the actor playing Blake left the show after the first season; so, one of the thieves took over the ship after that. :)
Now, that became a show without a truly clear sense of good vs. evil. The main characters occasion
That's because it's a trailer. (Score:2)
Re:good movie? (Score:2, Insightful)
I suspect you'd need to be more of a "Whedon" cult fan than a Firefly cult fan. Yes, Firefly covers much of the same territory that any normal sci-fi B-films cover, but where most writers focus on the starships & firefights, Whedon puts unbelievable amounts of depth into his characters. I'm a latecomer to the whole "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" thing myself -- although the premise of that series was somewhat ridiculous, the interaction between the characters was wonderful, and drew me in despite the over
Re:good movie? (Score:2)
Saw the pre-release screening in Boston (Score:2)
I haven't watched the trailers, but if the scene is the one I'm remembering from the movie, the ones getting it in the throat are bad guys.
And that's all I'll say.
Re:wrong name of the movie (Score:3, Insightful)
So yeah, they're both space fantasy, have lighting, and were filmed on photochemical film.
Yeah, and a conetticut yankee in king arthur's court and gone with the wind are basically the same movie too.
Re:Stupid title (Score:2)