GlobalFlyer Completes Record-Breaking Flight 496
ikewillis writes "Steve Fossett has successfully landed the GlobalFlyer in Kansas, completing the record-breaking flight and becoming the first person to successfully circle the earth in a nonstop solo flight. The journey of 37,000 kilometres has taken 67 hours, many of them fraught with anxiety over whether the custom-made GlobalFlyer aircraft had enough fuel for the trip. Fossett managed to touch down at 2:48 p.m. EST, to the delight of mission control staff, a small crowd and a marching band that had gathered at the airstrip to welcome him."
67 hours no? (Score:5, Insightful)
What is unknown is the amount of fuel left when the craft was landed, I'm sure I'm not the only one eager to find out.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, I'm interested in their fuel economy in the real world as compared to what they expected.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:5, Insightful)
Or if it was just hype to add some drama to the flight and keep it at the top of the headlines. Wouldn't be the first time for an artificial crisis.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:2, Interesting)
I guess my theory of a publicity stunt would fall in that category.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't know why you'd want to orbit your sailplane, though....
Re:67 hours no? (Score:4, Insightful)
One would have to presume that they calculated the necessary amount of fuel beforehand to achieve the lightest flight weight possible. It seems inconceivable that they really lost 2,600 lbs of fuel and still completed the journey fine.
I see three possibilities.
-The whole "loss of fuel" thing was a huge publicity stunt that worked wonderfully. Oooh, the anxiety!
-Their inflight measurements were wrong.
-They REALLY overfilled it, and had plenty to slop around.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:2)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Informative)
The fully-loaded fuel tank was around 85% the plane's weight, IIRC, so you are correct.
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Informative)
From: The Global Flyer aircraft description at virginatlanticglobalflyer.com [virginatla...lflyer.com] we have the following statistics:
That's an aspect ratio of 32.5, wing loading when the fuel runs out (assuming 200 lb pilot+gear) of only 8.875 lbs/ft^2. Induced drag will be trivial and you're only fighting wetted area dra
Re:67 hours no? (Score:5, Interesting)
Article Link [kansascity.com]
"When asked if the Mission Control team had overplayed the seriousness of the fuel shortage, Branson replied: "Incredibly, the thing is, in life truth is often stranger than fiction."
Branson said he had expected the flight would either be disastrous or boring but "everything that could have happened seems to have happened. There has been a lot of drama.""
(That was before the landing.)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh, that's cheating? OK, make sure the route takes in both hemispheres - start just south of the equator, head straight for the north pole, fly round it and back again. I'd be curious to know what the actual requirements are for "around the world".
Re:67 hours no? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:67 hours no? (Score:4, Informative)
-Jesse
Re:67 hours no? (Score:4, Funny)
Congrats (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Congrats (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, con-frickin-gratulations! (Score:2, Funny)
Correction (Score:5, Informative)
Also FYI (37,000 km) / (67 hours) = 343.145285 mph ... pretty darn fast considering they were expecting an average of 285mph.
Re:Correction (Score:3, Informative)
So what all did he get to fly over on this trip?
an average of 343 MPH is well within reason (Score:2, Insightful)
Although none of the articles specify, I'd guess that the 285 MPH mark is either an IAS (indicated air speed - how fast the plane is going as indicated to the pilot) or more likely TAS (true air speed - how fast the plane is moving through the surrounding air). Ground air speed takes factors like wind into account, and can either
Those are Canadian hours (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Correction (Score:2)
Re:Correction (Score:2)
Do you claim that your trip to work this morning involved moving 30,000 miles?
Re:Correction (Score:5, Funny)
Only on my taxes.
Re:Correction (Score:2)
Can I just be the first to say ... (Score:5, Funny)
Congratulations to Scaled Composites & Steve F (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm wondering how much fuel was left when he landed, given that problem with the missing 2600 lb of fuel. The journey took about 68 hours by my calculations, which was considerably below the initial estimate of 80 hours.
nbc news had this story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7075972/
Ya think he might want to take a ship back to the U.K.? He's probably not going to want a milkshake for a few days either.
Re:Congratulations to Scaled Composites & Stev (Score:3, Funny)
I dunno, based on how much time this guy spends trying to go around [fossettchallenge.com] the [torresen.com] world [virginatla...lflyer.com] in vessels with small volumes, I'd be willing to wager that he doesn't enjoy showers.
Interesting similarity (Score:3, Interesting)
Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Funny)
A guy flies all around the world, non-stop, solo in a jet aircraft and that's his reception. He should have landed in France, they knew how to welcome Lindy.
The first person to fly, solo, nonstop around the moon and back will probably be greeted by a kid with a kazoo.
yeah, but (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:3, Funny)
Me? I think I'd pick the little shit w/the kazoo. At least he was trying.
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Insightful)
If he would have landed in Chicago, NYC, or any number of other places, he would have had a huge crowd.
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:2)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sad, isn't it? (Score:2)
The last thing I'd want at that point would be a gala reception. Gimme a couple days' sleep, a shower, and some food- THEN it'll be time to party.
A Great American Hero (Score:3, Funny)
I can't believe it myself.
Suddenly I'm up on top of the world,
It should've been somebody else.
Believe it or not,
I'm walking on air.
I never thought I could feel so free eee eee.
Flying away on a wing and a prayer.
Who could it be?
Believe it or not it's just me.
Re:A Great American Hero (Score:5, Funny)
George isn't at home...
Easy to go faster than that (Score:5, Funny)
Salina, Kansas (Score:2)
Re:Salina, Kansas (Score:4, Informative)
And that's where he started (because of the very long runway that was needed for takeoff).
And by the record rules, you have to start and land from the same airfield.
Re:Salina, Kansas (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Salina, Kansas (Score:3, Interesting)
Machrihanish airfield [hial.co.uk], in Scotland, has a 10,000+ ft runway. I was cleared to land (based on the "normal" threshold), while one of my colleagues, who was practising precision landings, was cleared to land using the control tower (about two thirds of the way up) as a touch down point
Re:Salina, Kansas (Score:3, Interesting)
Ah, yes. Here it is, The Wittman NOTAM, page 10. Except I got the colors wrong, its White, Green, and Orange.
http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_200
--Carlos V.
I feel...nothing (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I feel...nothing (Score:2)
Re:I feel...nothing (Score:5, Insightful)
As a result (and to protect your mental faculties) your capacity for true joy has been severely curtailed. Don't worry. There are many like you out there. Jaded, bored and drowning in ennui. The rest of us allow ourselves the opportunatity to be hurt and perhaps even overloaded. As a result we feel real joy when others accomplish great things.
I don't really know if your type is more prevalant than my type and frankly I think the answer would probably depress the fuck out of me.
Try to find your wonderment. In your capacity for humanity. For our ability to push boundries and reach for the unknown. For the very real way that despite all of the dangers we pose to ourselves we have so far avoided utter distruction.
Unless you are willing to risk disappointment you will never know true joy.
Catching up with the Soviets, are we? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Catching up with the Soviets, are we? (Score:2)
Space capsules don't count.
Re:Catching up with the Soviets, are we? (Score:3, Interesting)
This way, there's still lots of new records to make! I wonder who will be first to circle the earth in a nonstop solo flight while never rising more than 50 m over sea (or land) level?
Sleep Schedule (Score:2)
it's easy to say you're not going to sleep. But sleep is a very persistant predator.
Sleep? (Score:5, Funny)
A 60 year old staying awake for nearly three days straight is as impressive to me as fuel economy. I couldn't make two full days straight, even when I was 19...
Re:Sleep? (Score:4, Funny)
I know, I know, they probably had a waste disposal system on the jet. Though it'd be pretty funny if that was one of the things they'd overlooked... "OK, now I'm going to test the Jet's waste disposal system... Aaah... Er... guys... tell me the jet has a waste disposal system?"
Waste Disposal System (Score:5, Interesting)
I wonder how big his piss can was?
IIRC, the USAF's U-2S [af.mil] high altitude reconnaissance aircraft piss can held about a quart.
Sometimes, if we were turning a jet for a second sortie the same day, the crew chief would forget to empty the can (thank God I was an avionics specialist!) after the first pilot had made his contribution. The second pilot would discover this oversight when his urine would fill the can and then back up the tube to overflow in his pressure suit, where it sloshed around for the remainder of the flight. . .
There is no facility for disposing of solid waste though. Every now and then a mission would abort because the pilot was suffering from "gastrointestinal distress." In the 5th Reconnaissance Squadron's (IYAABYAS!) ops shack, there is plaque high up on the wall, with a roll of toilet paper attached, commerating all those brave U-2 pilots who joined the exclusive "Stratoshitters Club." One guy's name was on there twice. . .
Bravo. (Score:2)
Just kidding, Steve. Great work, and I can't wait to hear what you'll be trying next!
Somehow not as exciting (Score:2)
As Voyager, the first aircraft to circle the globe in a single continuous non-stop flight. I don't really see the record-breaking advance in flight that results from having one person in the cockpit instead of two.
I mean, the point of Voyager having two people was they could take shifts at the wheel to get rest on the extremely long flight. But this is essentially what Steve Fossett had as well, since mission control was watching his instruments while he took naps.
If anything, this seems like an advance
XF-11? (Score:2)
http://www.check-six.com/images/XF-11/xf11-3q-wid
::Digitac
Now hear this (Score:2)
Congratulations most deservedly goes to... (Score:5, Informative)
--M
The rest of the story (Score:5, Funny)
Around the Earth .. Really??? (Score:5, Interesting)
a) He was 3000 km shy of the circumference at the equator.
b) I don't belive he made it into the southern hemisphere.
Re:Around the Earth .. Really??? (Score:3, Informative)
For the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer and its pilot Steve Fossett to set a world record [virginatla...lflyer.com] for the first solo, non-stop, non-refuelled circumnavigation of the world they will have to follow a strict set of rules laid down by the governing body of aviation record attempts, the Federation Aeronautique Internationale.
Re:Around the Earth .. Really??? (Score:3, Interesting)
Still, in this day and age of technology I would think that you could toughen up the rules, so you have to exceed the minimum circumference of the planet.
Designed by Burt Rutan (Score:2)
I don't get it (Score:3, Interesting)
Movemovemove! (Score:3, Funny)
In other news.... (Score:5, Funny)
Why the hype? (Score:5, Insightful)
Official Sites (Score:2)
Some image captures from the live feed (Score:3, Interesting)
For those of you who couldn't manage to scrape a connection to the live feed, and I know I had a lot of difficulty, I've put some images captures of the take off [babilim.co.uk] on Monday, the flight [1 [babilim.co.uk], 2 [babilim.co.uk]] itself, the decent [babilim.co.uk] and of course the landing [babilim.co.uk] up on my blog [babilim.co.uk].
The machine these are sitting on once hosted three front page Slashdot stories simultaneously so I'm not too worried about posting this... err, I think I'll just mail my sysadmin.
Al.Smithsonian (Score:3, Informative)
Yep, he made it... or never left. (Score:3, Funny)
Radio chatter (Score:5, Funny)
"Fossett, you're a stud."
Re:Blah (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, that and talent, vision, courage, ability, funding, support, drive, goals, and...well...a record.
But don't worry, trolling on
Re:Blah (Score:5, Insightful)
When Universities spend government grant money to do stuff like this, people fall all over themselves to congratulate them. Some guy spends his own money and years of his life to do the same, and suddenly he is some "rich fuck" in your eyes.
It is obvious that your problem is that you are insecure about your own lack of funds and this is preventing you from congratulating someone who deserves accolades for their hard work. This wasn't some fly-by-night (no pun intended) attempt. This guy has been trying for many years with multiple prototypes and failed attempts. He didn't give up, regardless of how expensive it was.
Get over the fact that you are not rich and see the value that his research brings to the world. (the same value you would see if this was a government funded research project).
-David
Re:Blah (Score:3, Insightful)
Get off your butt and do something creative or new. Then maybe you'll be able to buy a couple.
Bigger deal for Burt Rutan (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Bigger deal for Burt Rutan (Score:3, Insightful)
Slight edit from me:
We can debate whether Fosset deserves praise, but I think it's pretty clear that it's another huge accomplishment for Burt Rutan.
Re:That's Awesome...but... (Score:2)
Do you get it? Do YOU? Probably not. I'll explain. The "world" as it were does not need to concentrate on "one thing" at a time. Believe it or not, people as a whole are capable of accomplishing many tasks at once. Go figure.
Re:That's Awesome...but... (Score:2)
You've got to take some smaller steps before you break into a full run.
I think that the cool crap that the gang over at Scaled Composites has been doing lately has done more to spark interest in space flight than NASA has done in the last decade.
Re:That's Awesome...but... (Score:2)
This looks like a bad bet taken too far. Someone tell me one practical application of this acomplishment.
*equips asbestos suit*
Re:That's Awesome...but... (Score:2)
Re:That's Awesome...but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Idiot.
Re:Mod me down but this is no big accomplishment (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mod me down but this is no big accomplishment (Score:5, Insightful)
He has decided to break records, to participate in the production of a machine which would allow a human to do something no other human has done before. He has chosen to make history not just as a man with money, but a man with money who decided to live the adventure.
Contrast this with the opposite: gather money, buy, sell, rinse and repeat until you die. Is that what you would have rather seen? Would you have congratulated this man on living a life worth living having done that? I doubt it. This man hasn't do that - he has decided to do something more.
The Richard Bransons in this world are men who have opportunity and take it. They live their lives to a degree that we cannot because of our financial situation. They could easily, EASILY decide to lay back and do nothing at all. These men do not do that, rather they willingly decide to pioneer, to carve a path for the rest of humanity. Whether it is creating extremely efficient aircraft, going into space or more, they are living their lives to its fullest potential.
Remember: All men die, few men really live.
Re:Mod me down but this is no big accomplishment (Score:3, Informative)
AFAICT, all Branson did is write a check and provide moral support.
The pilot was Fosset. Apparently they are friends. Fosset is not that rich. The article refers to him as a millionaire. Branson, on the other hand, is referred to as a billionaire. So I think it is incorrect to say that Fosset can do whatever he chooses. It might be more accurate to say that he has enough determination to accomplish his objectives.
Oth
and one willing to risk his life at it too (Score:5, Insightful)
Losers rarely want to do what winners have to do.
Re:Steve Fossett, dead at 60 (Score:2)
Re:Nonstop Flights? (Score:2)
Re:Distance Record Broken (Score:2)
previous record?
Re:Distance Record Broken (Score:3, Informative)
But the previous record being in 1962 suprises me as well. But I'm not sure if it's a matter of it being so long ago or the fact that a B-52 can travel so far.
Re:sorry, around the world? since when?! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Record SETTING Flight is more appropriate (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not ALL the way around the Earth (Score:3, Interesting)