Half Mast 439
Half Mast | |
author | Christopher Null |
pages | 219 |
publisher | Sutro Press |
rating | 7 |
reviewer | PCM2 |
ISBN | 0972098100 |
summary | An interesting novel of murder among high school outsiders. |
Alex, the protagonist of the story, is a geeky kid. He gets picked on. And he kills somebody because of it. But that's pretty much where the similarities between Alex and Dylan Klebold end.
What's refreshing about Half Mast is how the author accurately captures the world of a high-school outsider. Writers can be pretty introverted types themselves, but few of them end up killing anybody. So when they try to imagine the type of character who would, a lot of them tend to fall into the trap of inventing someone even more unfathomably nerdy than themselves. Thankfully, Null avoids this.
Alex isn't a complete, pathetic loner. He has friends. And together, Alex, Travis and James aren't the typical cookie-cutter stereotypes of kids too terminally dorky to get with the program. They're not so trollish that they can't get within booger-flicking distance of a girl, or so chess-club square that they wouldn't touch a drop of alcohol at a party (in fact, they spend much of their summers doing just the opposite). Null gets it: that most geeks aren't necessarily "deprived," and being an outsider isn't always about being excluded. It's about being different -- and that, in and of itself, can have its consequences.
In Alex's case, his nemesis is Steve Williams: hometown hero, star athlete, the pride and joy of Fall Valley High -- if you care about that sort of thing, that is. Alex doesn't, particularly. He fails to kowtow to Steve the way the way Fall Valley's golden boy thinks he deserves -- and here's where his proverbial troubles begin. Steve subjects Alex to a series of humiliating tortures that should have even the most picked-on geek cringing.
When Alex does finally strike back, it isn't with a hail of gunfire, either. He's calculating about it. I must admit, I'm not really convinced that Alex's modus operandi would actually pan out the way it does in Half Mast. But it certainly makes for more interesting reading than your standard shoot-out, and in its way, it's much more sinister. Also, because Alex doesn't have the option of the Columbine killers' quick way out, he's forced to live with his actions and their impact on his own life.
That's the book's focus, and what saves it from being just another wannabe crime thriller. Christopher Null cares about his characters, and he's taken care to depict them in a way that geeks will find sympathetic and (mostly) believable.
While a lot of Null's characters and situations were amusingly familiar, others rang less true. The Steve Williams character was a little too prone to making speeches about the relationship between bullies and their victims, for example, instead of just knocking Alex into the dirt the way the kids at my school would have done. There were also a few too many end-of-chapter "zinger" one-liners for my taste, and the novel uses the awkward device of a present-day journal talking about events that took place several years in the past.
Still, it's an impressive debut novel about an uncommon subject matter, and one I think a lot of Slashdotters would get a kick out of. Half Mast is a fast read, and an enjoyable one. It's also notable because the author chose to self-publish rather than go the traditional route. (Or maybe the topic was too "troublesome" for mainstream publishers in a post-Columbine world?)
You can purchase Half Mast from bn.com as well as from Null's own Web site at sutropress.com, which also has some excerpts from the book. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.
Alex should have just waited (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:5, Funny)
And bayyyy-bay.... Talk dirty to me.
Tal
Re:unfortunately.. (Score:3, Funny)
http://ratemymullet.com/
Re:Amateur (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:5, Insightful)
Mean behavior is mean behavior. If it really tortured and hurt you then, you ought not to participate in it now.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
Wait a second, who said it wasnt funny the first time?
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:3, Insightful)
I think what he was implying was not that he would torture or bully jocks who he didn't know, but just the particular ones who bullied him in high school.
In this case, it's more karma than anything else... he's just showing the people who bullied him what he went through. You reap what you sow.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:3, Insightful)
Ask yourself if your actions are making the net quality of life on Earth better or worse.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
"We've all got it coming kid".
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
If being able to "Buy and Sell" them has become your criterion for superiority, then your victory came too late; the bullies already Own you.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:4, Insightful)
Bad, bad, bad idea. You fail to realize that he is the one that handles your food moments before you eat it. If you undertip and report them, you'll probably have a couple of extra "toppings" on your pizza next time, no charge.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:3, Funny)
That gives a new meaning to <voice style=ricardo-montalban> the Klingon proverb which tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold... </voice>
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:3, Funny)
Really?
I didn't know that, e.g. didn't know that.
by the way, that girl you're with has the clap.
Re:Alex should have just waited (Score:2)
Oh No ! (Score:2, Funny)
Whatever happened to Katz? (Score:2)
For a second there.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:For a second there.... (Score:3, Funny)
Who needs sports? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:3, Insightful)
Coordination can be learned. If someone is too clumbsy to catch or throw properly, someone else didn't teach them properly. Some parts of throwing are instinctual, but not all of them.
Part of the problem is that city life doesn't lend itself naturally to sports. The places to play are crowded, and when you want to use the basketball court, you have to either be bigger than the people currently using it, or wait on the sidelines doing something else. Organized sports are an unnatural event. People should be able to just go outside with their buddies when ever the weather allows, and start playing.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sports can lead to people worrying about stuff that's not important whatsoever to their real lives, it can cause frustration, humiliation, and teach vengeance and reward cruelty if taught improperly.
Health and exercise is important, but how one decides to have fun and/or attempt to attract the opposite sex should not have sway in their being a 'loser'.
Finally, many atheletes do worse things than smoking in the form of drugs to improve performance because winning has become their lives.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
Notice how I critized ORGANIZED sports, and a lack of proper athletic training? People get all worked up over stuff that is supposed to be fun and healthy because some kids [parents] can't play nice [fair].
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
So I throw the ball with both of our boys and just have fun with them. That is, I believe, the greatest value in sports.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm just disappointed that the children who choose to define their life through sports are considered "cooler" or "better adjusted" than the kid who takes more interest in, say, science or computers. In my opinion, our society has its prioities was screwed up. Realistically, most of us know that cognitive ability is going to be far more valuable in a person's life than the ability to kick a ball, but still the jocks get all the praise and admiration.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:3, Funny)
Ironically, it's been calculated that if you jog for 30 minutes every day, you will live two years longer than everyone else. You will also have spent two years of your life jogging.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2, Insightful)
Note that there is a fundamental difference between "sports" (ie. competitive atcletics) and "exercise". You do emphatically _not_ need to participate in a sport to get exercise. And it is exercise that is important for your health and well-being, not competition. A surprising number of geek friends that loathe the idea of sports (and that cut PE classes) are nevertheless avid exercisers; they just don't wish to compare performance with others.
There are a number of athletic activities available that are not competitive but very beneficial - and that tends to appeal to geeks: Walking rather than riding a bus or car; rock climbing; cycling (as transport of enjoyment, not racing); weight lifting and gymnastics (good for your back); dancing - classical or ballroom; hiking. there are many others of course, all with the common denominator of not having to induce an unhealthy competitive element.
If school gymknastics were to emphasize the joy of exercise rather than just ranking people on their ability to throw a ball then maybe there wouldn't be so much disdain towards it from the less talented.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
Who needs sports? People who enjoy sports.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
I dunno, I'm terrible at catching and throwing, always was. Can't play racquet sports worth a damn either, and it's not through lack of trying. But not all sports involve catching... at school I competed at district level in swimming and rifle, and these days my sport of choice is weightlifting.
My problem with most sports is that they're too artificial. There's no inherent reason for most of the "rules", the sizes of the teams, the shape of the ball, the methods of scoring, and so on. With weightlifting, it's just you versus the the fundamental laws of physics. Doesn't get much more interesting than that!
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
I also agree that city (and suburban) life doesn't lend itself well to just "going outside and playing" -- we're so used to driving everywhere, and playing video games, that going out to run or play soccer is just...foreign. Might be why most Americans are obese...
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:3, Interesting)
I played soccer and hockey at school a bit, and found them both very dull. It's all just basic trig, and you don't get exercise if you play them well, you stand where the ball is going to be, then deflect it slightly so it goes past the keeper into the goal. Wow, wasn't that fun. Oh, and everybody labels you as 'flukey', since you seemed to put no effort into scoring (which rather seemed the point, I dislike inefficiency). Eventually at a hockey team practice I just said 'Enough, this game is dull' and got sent to do a lap of the pitch. 10 laps later the teacher noticed I was still running and told me I could come back and join in. I said thanked him, but said that the running was more fun (I think better when running / walking than when stationary). Conversations with PE teachers often went along these lines:
PE Teacher: Would you rather do maths?
Me: Yes.
PE Teacher: *Confused expression* Would you rather go for a run?
Me: Yes.
PE Teacher: Oh...
The thing that always irritated me was the assumption that because you disliked a sport, you must be bad at it. At one point during an RAF competition I was told by my other members of my flight, who knew of my dislike for football to 'just stay out of the way'. I did so, until we were two goals down, then I joined in, scored the next three goals, and sat back down. Even after this there was still a belief that 'doesn't like football' (soccer for American readers) implies 'is no good at football'. People are far more willing to believe stereotypes than actual evidence.
At university I joined the Dark Ages Re-enactment group. The group coordinator (she doesn't like the term leader) describes it as a 'contact sport'. Hitting someone with a metal (EN45 spring steel) sword, while avoiding their blows and not actually injuring them is superb exercise, great for improving co-ordination, and a lot of fun. If only it had been offered at school (by the sixth form I'd chosen shooting as my games option).
Re:Who needs AC to challenge me? (Score:2)
And your second "point" shows you how much you know about what you are talking about. Dyslexics CAN be helped by proper training.
Unless you have a balance/motor control disability, or are BLIND, you CAN and will benefit from sports and some training. Side effects like not getting picked first, and having the ball thrown at your head just mean you are playing with the wrong people.
Heck, even blind people can play sports like golf, and they do benefit from it in the form of exercise and having something else they can be proud of. And even people with motor disabilities need training/therapy so they can learn to move even with their defective body parts.
Re:Who needs sports? (Score:2)
Here's my take on some important life lessons that can be learned from participating in team sports, even if, or maybe especially if, you suck:
A wide stereotype (Score:5, Insightful)
Aspergers Syndrome (mainly) (Score:3, Interesting)
The Geek Syndrome [wired.com] where computer programmers get their charm from.
aspergers syndrome information [wpi.edu]
At the time it happened (Score:5, Insightful)
At least for a while though, the events that occurred shocked everybody into realizing that
a) Even geeky people do have a breaking point
b) Bad things happen when you push them past it
I don't sponsor what happened what happened in Columbine: some killings were also based on race and religion, etc, but for awhile its affects gave me a breather. However, now that harrassment in schools is picking up again I wouldn't be surprised to see more students "losing it"
It's also worthy of note that when an event like this happens - all of N. America and possible the world cry "how could it happen," while suicides based on harrassment - which are more frequent often end up as a statistic except for local grief.
Oh, and to this day I find that people tend to bother me less if I wear a nice, dark, long trenchcoat.
As another note (Score:4, Funny)
Oh... and the year I was the lab admin was the best, many of these jokers were in my class and the prof left me deal with them according - or just assumed that various events were just regular/random PC happenings.
Ah, the pleasant memories:
"These computer SUCK, this is the third time it's crashed before I could finish this assignment"
Beware the viscious circle. (Score:3, Insightful)
The more problems that people have on systems that you are supposedly administering, the less they will like you.
Try talking, or being friendly, or helping to try to recover their data. Let the "bully" see that perhaps you can be better allies than enemies.
Re:Beware the viscious circle. (Score:2)
They used floppy disks.
I don't care what anyone says, floppy disks are made like pieces of shit now. They used to be made much better. Floppies were never a sure way to store any data, but they used to be much more durable and longer lasting than they are now. Not sure why the quality has dropped so much, but if anyone knows, I would be interested (other than the obvious price drop).
Still, it was funny to watch people come and try to open a 20 page document on their floppy, then have it fail, and I would have to say there is nothing I can do.
Then I would teach them about network storage... I figured once that had one major fuckup with a floppy, they were all ears to learn a little about what their network drive was for.
Re:Beware the viscious circle. (Score:5, Informative)
One day I was crying (remember I was in about the 3rd grade) about having recently been beat up. My mother that day told me "the next time that bully hits you, you hit him with your lunchbox, and punch him in the nose." I did. I got about a three month reprieve from being harrased from it too. About every three months we would fight, but there were periods of nothing in between. This carried into higher grades (different bullies).
Did the teasing and bullying stop? No. But I *did* keep my self-respect, and dignity. Talking to irrational people does *not* work. Ususally bullies are too stupid.
Re:Nice advice... (Score:2)
Re:At the time it happened (Score:5, Insightful)
Where I come from, we have one of the highest (if no longer the highest) suicide rate in Canada (Abitibi, Quebec).
From secondary 3 to Secondary 5, I had 4 direct friends of mine who commited suicide and a hell of a lot other people who I knew commited suicide also.
You know in a 35K peoples city, 10 kids going to the same scool who commit suicide in a year is VERY disturbing.
I tought about it myself but I finally got some help from external sources (my parents tried to help, but could not...) and got over it.
But anyway, as you were saying, suicide can be a very dramatic social problem, but it really seems to always end up in statistics.
Pretty sad state of affair when you realize that the happiness of our young people is so much less important to the population then their own self.
People always start to worry about that after they had lost a relative.
Re:At the time it happened (Score:2)
Re:At the time it happened (Score:2)
You don't see that too often. (Score:5, Insightful)
But you very rarely see it dealt with in the movies or on TV. I haven't read anything dealing with the topic since The Scarlet Letter in high school (so many years ago).
I'm going to pick this book up just to see how this author handles it.
Mitnick should read the parent post (Score:2)
Having to live with the consequences of a decision, with new repercussions even years later, is one of the toughest things to deal with in Real Life.
Kevin Mitnick should think about this instead of feeling snubbed because he was not permitted to join ISSA [securityfocus.com].
The moral of the story is that sometimes people who make bad decisions have to live with the consequences. However, accountability and personal responsibility seem to be disappearing from the social landscape*, so these qualities aren't as common - or as expected - as they once were.
(* At least in the US - I can't speak for other countries 'cause I don't live in any of them.)
It's the times (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:It's the times (Score:5, Insightful)
Notice that there *hasn't* been a major school rampage in a couple of years? For a while, multiple shootings were happening several times a year, with individual alleged bullies being shot by alleged outcasts much more frequently than that.
Once they dropped off the front page of the paper for a while (as the attention of the media turned elsewhere), they stopped happening. The individual shootings may continue unreported for all I know, mass killings have stopped.
Remember all the experts on TV telling us that it's too many guns, not enough guns, religion, atheism, video games, sex education? Well none of those things have changed and the Columbines have disappeared. What's the only thing that has changed?
Re:It's the times (Score:4, Informative)
The only thing that's changed is you're not hearing about them.
1927 Bath Michigan: 39 killed (Score:3, Interesting)
Hardly New (Score:2)
Difference is, we never reported schools shootings over and over.
Could be we're finally seeing the pressures that drive kids to kill; but chances are, we report it so boldly and incessantly on TV that it gives other kids ideas.
But then again, I always look for the simple explainations.
Re:It's the times (Score:2)
Ever hear the Boomtown Rats' track "Tell Me Why (I don't like Mondays)"? If so, do you know what it's really about?
It's about a girl, Brenda Spencer [geocities.com], who came into school one day and shot her classmates (I think nine, though I'm not entirely sure of the number). When asked why, she gave her reason as "I don't like Mondays".
OK - it's not quite thirty years ago but it's not far off. These things have happened before. Sad, but true.
Cheers,
Ian
Re:It's the times (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not saying "hit with stick time" is the first solution or the only solution. But there are kids where it is the only solution that works. In today's society, people like you dismiss it out of hand. That, I believe, is part of the problem.
I have no problem with believing that many kids would respond well to offering them rewards for good grades and good behavior. And, I undestand it's important to set the example for them. But in the end, if you really love your child, you should be willing to go to any lengths to make sure they grow up right, even if it means hitting them.
There's a big difference between "hitting with stick time" and "child abuse". I'm not suggesting you injure your child, but simply to have the option of using pain as negative reinforcement. Recognize the difference.
The truly sad thing is, (Score:3, Interesting)
that has it right. I point to this post:
Advice you would give your 12 year old Self [slashdot.org]
and I suggest that the sooner you cast off the idea
that you should be nice to everyone, have respect
for other people, and just try to get along, the
faster you'll wake up to the true nature of the
world. Then you'll be able to succeed, and go even
further because of your intelligence and general
geekishness. It's sad, but it appear to be true.
Re:The truly sad thing is, (Score:2)
Heh- (Score:3, Interesting)
Incidentally (Score:4, Informative)
As a librarian, I especially recommend it to those of you who are (or have little brothers/sisters/nieces/nephews/children) in high school.
-phatty 2x4
P.S. Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson and Hard Love by Ellen Wittlinger are also superb YA novels, just in case you find yourself liking that sort of thing.
I don't get it (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, who were these evil people that gave you such a hard time that you still care about them tens of years later? To tell the truth, I can barely remember the names of most of the people I went to school with, and the only people I keep in touch from high school are all close personal friends. I'm not saying elementary and high school were easy times for me, but I don't dwell on them. Things are good now! I have the respect and admiration of my peers, I do pretty much anything I want, etc.
I mean, who cares about what some foolish child did years ago? Who cares about what those people are doing today? Personally, I couldn't care less.
Re:I don't get it (Score:5, Insightful)
I absolutely remember who they are. Ten years on, they do still affect me and, if honest with ourselves, I think most people will admit the same...
Sure there are negatives: I talk too much and make bad jokes out of the remainder of the social nervousness they instilled; I find it hard to believe that my wife finds me physically attractive. But those are just some of the legacy they left me with.
My desire to work hard, get a good job, do the things I want to do - they all come from them. When I moved from London to California, part of what made the decision easier (and it is scary making a move like that) is the thought that, at reunions, I'll be able to go back and laud my exciting life over them.
They told me, for years, that I wasn't cool, couldn't do anything cool. I play guitar now, can snowboard, fly power kites. Every time I find myself thinking, "Nah, I can't be bothered." a part of me remembers them and gives me that extra push to try something new and cool, to stick with it, to be everything they told me I couldn't be.
They told me I wasn't attractive, that I could never get a girl as hot as the "models" they were dating, from another school, in the year below. Years later, I still smile when I remember, just before we left high school, aged 18, a friend telling them about the 21 year old nurse I was dating. Their telling me I couldn't gave me the impetus to try harder, to work out, change my look, whatever and find people who found me attractive.
They told me I was fat and ugly. While I refuse to go down the overcompensating paths of eating disorders and all the rest of it, remembering their derrision is what pushes me to do that extra thirty two lengths in the pool or get out of bed and go to the gym when I really don't want to.
To pretend that bullies don't have an affect on my life, years later, is to pretend that my personality didn't develop at all in highschool. Maybe a few people were lucky enough to never be bullied but I think most other people, if honest, will agree with me.
The thing is... Sure, they gave me some issues, but they also gave me a lot of strengths. It's that old thing of the former geek tipping the former jock who delivers his pizza. I was lucky and managed to turn the abuse in to a desire to always be more than them. So, in my own, warped, over generous way, perhaps I should just try thanking them, rather than hating them any more.
Seek solace in My love (Score:2, Interesting)
Don't fight the system,
Don't speak out,
Don't dress differently.
Be part of the crowd,
But don't make a scene.
Don't be a blip on the radar of humanity.
Blend in.
This message has been etched in stone
And continues to repress and distress.
The hatred multiplies
As those "freaks", those cancer on the popular skin,
Must comply.
But it is this silence
That feeds the violence.
All of the Doom
Brought forth by a volatile human Quake
May seem Unreal
But this is no game,
And it was no game that caused this.
It was the repression, the deception,
The correction, the depression.
If the undesirables make a stand,
Raise their collective hand,
If they even dare to breathe,
Push them down; make them desirable.
That's the American way.
If something is wrong, just point blame
On television or a video game.
There's no shame in that.
It's not the parents' fault:
They are symbols of perfection,
Models for the youth.
To tell you the truth,
Why am I even writing this poem?
It's not about talent or scholarship,
But conformity and censorship.
1984 is not too far-fetched.
Let's just hope that all the dreamers,
All the geeks, all the freaks,
Stay true to themselves
Because they can emancipate the slaves
Hopefully without filling up the graves.
They are the key
To making this nation what it claims to be:
The land of the free.
-- T.V.
Crime and Punishment (Score:2, Interesting)
Where have I seen this guy before... (Score:2)
Oh, yeah. 95% of /.ers fit (either now or at some point in the past) this description.
Psycho, yes, but not from birth (Score:4, Interesting)
Furthermore, it takes more than just peer abuse to cause a kid to snap. In all the situations of school shooting, there has been abuse or neglect from a majority of the adults in the kids' life, too.
# of exceptions it takes to disprove a rule? (Score:5, Insightful)
He said, two plus two equals four for the mainstream, and that's what we're going to call sanity. We need rules to keep society ordered and we need a common ground to talk from. But everybody has their places where they don't line up to the norm. For some peeople, that's everywhere. For some people, 2 + 2 = 22, or twelve, or bright green. And Some day, they're going to betalking you down from the top of a building (he was addressing the whole class) and they're going to ask you, gee, what the H* were you thinking? And you're going to say, well... i don't know. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time...
And that's not the scary part. The scary part is, that it will be true: it really will have made sense at the time. You will have found the place where, for you, two plus two no longer matches the four that everyone else comes up with.
I don't offer this to excuse anything that anyone has done. Murder is murder. But I offer this as thought-fodder against the prediliction that we have, as a society, for nice little categories and nice little diagnoses. There's a wide range of stuff out there in the human mind-spectrum, some of it dangerous and some of it good, and not all of it definable by our current terms.
Yeah, and I hated high school, too. But I think a lot of social fringe elements are actually better prepared for the outside world, and tend to do better in it, than their high school tormentors, because they have been forced to face the world as an individual without backup. It isn't right and it isn't necessarily worth it, but let's not forget that if superman hadn't had those powers, he never would have made it through high school without being stuffed into a locker either- or else he would have been one more football captain.
Re:# of exceptions it takes to disprove a rule? (Score:3, Funny)
So people who forget to declare 2 to be a number instead of a string are considered crazy?
Where is Jon Katz? (Score:2)
Speaking of Jon Katz, where has he been lately? Either he doesn't post much any more, or I have become so imune to his articles that I can recall seeing one for quite a long time.
Re:Where is Jon Katz? (Score:2)
Re:Where is Jon Katz? (Score:2)
It Wasn't Columbine! It's Always Been Like This... (Score:5, Insightful)
Columbine didn't do this, it's always been the case. Be it geeks & nerds with their computers or not.
For the most part society has always viewed different as being bad.
Look at racism and other ethinc discrimination: they're not my race/colour, so they must be bad!
Sexual orientation: he's gay, so he doesn't get the same rights. He's also open season for a beating.
Same with geeks and nerds: they don't play sports, they like computers, they must be screwed up.
Frankly people I think that as geeks we've had to put up with a hell of a lot less than either one of the two groups I've mentioned! Ya it sucks sometimes, but we still get off easy. I haven't heard of geek-bashing (as in beating to the point of death, or near death), nor have I heard of a geek not being allowed to vote or made to use a back door. It's not right, but it isn't new either.
The problem is societies general intolerance for anything different... not some very disturbed individuals who also happen to be nerdy going postal in a school.
Geeks a US phenomenon? (Score:2)
Is this a US only thing? Can non-american readers comment?
Re:Geeks a US phenomenon? (Score:2)
In the USA, physical prowess and Type A/alpha male tendencies are the celebrated traits to have. I don't know why this is. Nothing in our history indicates a cultural shift towards it, unless the hard physical labor of the westward expansion built a culture of "he who can built the best homestead is the best man"
Re:Geeks a US phenomenon? (Score:5, Informative)
Have'nt heard of Columbine type shootings from europe either. Is this a US only thing?
Definitely not, its happened in Germany [foxnews.com], Canada [cnn.com], and The Netherlands [go.com].
My redundancy (Score:2)
Now those self-same people who pick on me, say "Yes Sir!"
You see, I am a BOFH, revenge is mine.
Seems to be a typically American phenomenon (Score:4, Interesting)
What this fails to explain however is why similar things don't happen in societies where the pressure to conform is equal to or even greater than in the US, such as Japan. Not that Japanese "misfits" don't suffer: but they seem to internalize their anguish and commit suicide, rather than engaging in mass slaughter.
Rather than an inescapable cause of bullying and pressure to conform, school shootings seem to be a typically American phenomenon, perhaps arising out of American cultural values such as the strong commitment to individual freedom, including the freedom to bear arms, and a powerful "lone wolf" idealism. The fact that the phenomenon of school shootings seems to follow the spread of American culture across the world (perhaps witnessed by the recent shooting in Germany) seems to support that observation.
Re:Seems to be a typically American phenomenon (Score:5, Interesting)
In terms of pressure, the Korean, and to a lesser extent Japanese, systems exert *much* more pressure on the students than anything encountered in the US. For that matter, the european school system offers all the unfocused, buzzword-riddled non-education you could want.
What does seem unique to the US is the obsession with sports; I've heard US highschoolers say things like 'Our baseball team is state champion, so those kids pretty much run the school. But the football team's pretty weak so we don't have to worry about them.' That would seem like a damn strange thing to say in any other country. The result is a particularly sharp division into the sports-playing uber-class vs. everyone else, and a particularly sharp rejection of those who fall outside the sports system.
This is not to say there aren't many other things unhealthy about the US high school system. But if I had to pick a *uniquely American* point I'd pick the above.
The star athlete gives a darn about a nerd? (Score:4, Insightful)
In the very insightful recent Slashdot article [slashdot.org] on Paul Graham's article 'Why Nerds Are Unpopular' [paulgraham.com] you'll find one of the places this book falls down:
The star athlete is not going to take the time to harass the nerd. He's at the top of the heap, and will be pecking at the second-stringers, also-rans and various hangers-on to maintain his dominance of the pack. In turn, it's their job to find somebody lower on the food chain to pester, to enhance their own status.
Kind of like Bogie's remark to Peter Lorie (an ur-Nerd, if there ever was one) in Casablanca, when asked "You despise me, don't you?" -- "If I gave it any thought, I probably would."
Ditto (Score:2)
I've heard that name before... (Score:2)
He isn't social ... (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Insightful)
won't work (Score:5, Informative)
2. psycho tests will get you nowhere, they can all be cheated. (ALL, by ANYONE, forever)
sorry, but as a psychologist who did an internship at a forensic mental hospital, i just had to correct that.
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"But i don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here.
I'm mad, You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Re:psycho tests (Score:2, Interesting)
The key here is to go after the system which isolates and abuses kids in such a way that they feel the only escape is murder and/or suicide. How do we do this? Teachers and scool administrators need to take a more active role in their classrooms...not interfereing per se outside the classroom, but setting an example.
In my high school (a distant and happily fading memory), teachers ignored teasing and bullying until (and often after) real fights broke out. If they'd simply said "enough" and stopped it (or at least tried) many of us would have had more positive, or at least less negative, experiences.
And of course actually having and enforcing proper gun control wouldn't hurt. (had to get that in, eh?)
Re:psycho tests are bunk (Score:2)
For two, tests tests are dumb.
For three, maybe if even some teachers would pay attention to the students who try to avoid attention - in a good way, not a scrutinizing way - and actually care about something, and if schools were to actually provide a good example to kids about how to act maturely, maybe the problem would solve itself. Of course, middle-and-high-school teachers don't have much incentive to care when their spirit, which is already hard to maintain when you work with teachers all day, is systematically crushed by fuckhead administrators. It's hard for administrators to not be fuckheads when U.S. and state legislation forces them to be fuckheads. And it's hard to get a legislation that doesn't force anyone who comes into contact with the government to be a fuckhead when the American voting public seems to only like voting for intractable fuckheads who care more for self-aggrandizement, being in control, and having sex with women half their age than working towards getting people to be well taken care of and nice to each other. Not that the American voting public has much of a choice, given that the people the Republican and Democratic parties like to run for office invariably fit the above description.
A gargantuan, ill-concieved, and overdesigned system that doesn't work won't improve by becoming even more gargantuan and overdesigned. American public schools are gargantuan, ill-concieved, and and overdesigned. So is the state of the art in psychological screening. It is also poorly aimed - the root of the problem lies somewhere else.
Re:posting before coffee is bunk (Score:2)
Erratum 2: "which is already hard to maintain when you work with teachers all day" -> "which is already hard to maintain when you work with teenagers all day"
Erratum 3: "fuckhead" -> "FUCKHEAD"
Re:psycho tests (Score:2, Interesting)
And don't confuse psychotic and psychopathic--they're not the same. A psychotic person has delusions and hallucinations. A psychopath has no empathy for other people (kind of like a habitual bully). A psychotic person wouldn't take pleasure in another person's suffering like a psychopath or a bully would.
Re:psycho tests (Score:2)
It appears in almost every case. Cocaine, alchohol -- any substance -- gives you the "synthetic courage" (thanks S.King) to do what you normally never would. Look at the bank robbers who only do their heists when they're cooked up. Suicides, rapes, talking to the girl at the party, so often pushed from pondering to action by the substance. People with no guts when sober; monsters under their chemical surge.
Where's the fine line between "predisposition to psychosis" and "cranked like a Model-T" ???
Re:psycho tests (Score:2, Informative)
Stop talking bollocks.
Re:psycho tests (Score:2)
More and more, the scientific community is learning that genetic attitude traits inherited have more to do with the temperment of a person than any other factor.
Once it was thought that a person's character was a result of the way they were raised. This isn't the case, and I am glad science is finally starting to find data on this and publish it.
What phychosis? (Score:2)
On the other hand, say you are severely abused at work AND you can't/don't know how to get another job AND you complain to managers or police many times and they just ignore what you say. Now if you bring a machine gun to work and go Rembo... well you have a good chance with an insanity plea. Only it's not really insanity. It's still self-defence, by someone who doesn't know of any other way to defend himself.
Now, I am not suggesting a tempting option of letting nerds carry guns to protect themselves against bullies (not that most nerds would be able to shoot someone). But if a child/teenager is threatened by physical abuse in the hands of gang of overgrown potheads, surely he has a right to defend himself by any means available.
And if a student goes to parents or teachers and complains about bullies, they better listen. You can not expect a child to talk directly to police or file court documents. If he is refused help by an adult, he may well think that the only way to stop bullies is shown in action movies.
If a few bullies are killed and the nerds go free on self-defense or insanity (== desperation) plea, who knows, maybe bullies' parents will stop making excuses for their children being "normal boys" and bullies' teachers will start expelling students.
FYI, my school (in Soviet Russia!) had some pretty liberal "playground rules". Like throwing darts made from a needle, rubber and paper until they are dozens stuck under your skin (you really get swollen after that!). Or taking your coat and hat and making you walk home wearing indoor cloth at -40C. Every day, I was trying to sneak out of the window and use some small back streets to avoid bullies on the way home. Every school break, I had to run out of class at the first bell ring and hide under shelves in the library or be beaten.
Into amatuer chemistry at that time, I was thinking daily about somehow making cyanide from K Fe (CN)4 (rusty now, is that the formula? would sublimation with diluted sulphiric acid do it?) and adding some to bullies' meals in school cafeteria. Just a comforting dream, never likely to act on it. But I can relate to someone with less hope and under more pressure.
Re:I'm not sure what to think (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I'm not sure what to think (Score:2)
Shouldn't the author get paid, no matter what tool you use to read his material?
Re:Somehow, I doubt I'll see this on the DrudgeRep (Score:2)
I'm not a guru, but I'm also in the same category. Sure, I work as a Unix sysadmin and I program in my free time, but I'm also a photography nerd, cooking nerd, and physical activity nerd. I got picked on in high school, got over it, and I'm now having a lot more fun with my life than most of the "popular" crowd -- not because I make more money (I do), or because I'm better looking (I don't have a potbelly; most of them do), or because I've got more friends (Lost count and don't care). I'm happier because I've got tangible things that I enjoy devoting my life to -- my photography, my algorithms, and my tiramisu, whereas the "popular crowd" is still chasing "popularity" and "coolness" like they were in high school.
Re:God I'm sick of the whining (Score:4, Interesting)
What the f--k is the difference between being physically abused by a peer or being physically abused by a parent? The difference is if your physically abused by a parent you can call family services and theyll act. You try reporting physical abuse by a peer the abuser wont even get arrested will get some minor slap on the wrist and then beat u up again for reporting them.
This is not about "having no friends" . I would have been happy having no friends if the bullies would have just left me the h-ll alone!
Some of us have emotional scars that have lasted years, and therapy bills going into the thousands of dollars, and we didnt suffer?
Most of us didnt care if we didnt hang around with the popular people, or had only a few friends, or didnt get many dates. We just didnt think it was right to be tormented by others because didnt have those things.
Re:Real need (Score:3, Insightful)
Very true, and having a slight frame is a huge advantage in this. Anyone who picks on someone half their size and gets hurt loses all respect from their peers very quickly.