Slashback: Riftiness, Ixianism, Eclipse 231
I want you to hear my side of the story. R. Benjamin Shapiro writes "Hi There, After reading the reactionary (and slanted) Salon story (of which I am a subscriber) and the responses to it, I thought I'd point the /. community to a paper describing what we are actually doing. Many of the suggestions posted on /. are things we have been doing for some time now. Thanks very much for your feedback!"
A minor but nice victory. Werner Heuser writes "In the hearing from June 12th the court has rejected the arguments of 'Lés Editions Albert René.' The court says the words 'MobiliX' and 'Obelix' can hardly be mixed up with each other. Also the work of MobiliX is dedicated to another audience. This is a great success for the Free Software Community.
MobiliX is a very well-known site dedicated to Linux and BSD on mobile devices (like laptops, PDAs, cell phones and more). In November 2001 Werner Heuser, owner of the Open Source project MobiliX - UniX on Mobile Computers was charged by 'Lés Editions Albert René,' which is owner of the trademark 'Obelix.' In their opinion the names Obelix and MobiliX are very similar. The charge aimed for a deletion of the trademark 'MobiliX' and a compensation fee. The charge has been discussed in many newsgroups and mailing lists. It seems to be a very important case for the Free Software Community, because there are many projects, which names are also ending on 'iX.' Some other projects have even silently withdrawn their names, because the financial risk of losing a trademark case is high. The documentation of the case is available online. It includes the letters from MobiliX lawyers Jaschinski Biere Brexl - JBB."
In 10,000 years, these plates will be mandatory. An Anonymous Coward writes "The director of the Nevada DMV has denied the application for a custom plate depicting a mushroom-shaped cloud. The plates where apparently 'insensitive' and otherwise politically incorrect. .. "
Truer than you know. Zeekamotay writes "Referring to this previously reported story, The Beijing Evening News has now apologized to its readers for printing a story that originated from The Onion. They don't quite seem to grasp the concept of satire though: 'Some small American newspapers frequently fabricate offbeat news to trick people into noticing them, with the aim of making money,' the paper said. 'This is what the Onion does.'"
One more item for your bazillion-hour PVR. Stalke writes "This is a little old, but Tripping the Rift, first mentioned in a previous slashdot article, has been picked up by the SCI FI channel as their first ever animated series. For those of you that don't know, this is a parody of Starwars and Star Trek that takes place on the "Free Enterprise" and includes Chode, a purple alien, Six, a half-naked android, and a dark clown named Bobo. A higher res version of the original movie linked by the previous article is also available on their website."
Some of the "Sun" projectors were just down for scheduled maintenance. leananglemorgan writes "Just in case anyone missed the ol' Solar Eclipse on the 10th, here is a link to quick snaps I took ... Not the greatest, but reasonable enough to get some 'Hey that's cool!' remarks. Enjoy! I thought a couple came out good enough to share!" Another reader submits: "Thought everyone would enjoy this eclipse video I found."
Frequently? (Score:3, Insightful)
At one issue a week, I sometimes wish it were more frequent!
And I could do without all the shitting jokes.
Re:Frequently? (Score:1)
Onion re-runs (Score:3)
I have been reading The Onion for about five years. It was funny at first, but then they started repeating stories!
Re:Onion re-runs (Score:1)
"I have been reading Slashdot for about five years. It was interesting at first, but then they started repeating stories!"
Re:Onion re-runs (Score:2)
Onion-esque Upstart (Score:1, Offtopic)
I'm hoping people might be interested enough to check it out and possibly contribute. :)
Domination News Network [bowdownbefore.us] News for The Next Ruling Class(tm)
Re:Onion-esque Upstart (Score:1)
Segfault was around and doing the type of reader-submission humor that DNN guy is talking about, but it was mostly crap.
There were some gems [segfault.org], though.
Re:Frequently? (Score:1, Insightful)
a) They have a democracy vs a plutocrary
b) That JFK was really killed by a lone gunman
c) The Microsoft settlement is for the best
d) That America is not the worlds biggest financier of terrorism
c) That the government doesnt just arrest people to get good PR
d) DMCA / USAPATRIOT etc arent just to shore up the status quo
I think you can guess most of the rest...
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curse you for spoiling it for me.
We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:5, Insightful)
Dear China,
Learning how to mock your government is an essential step towards democracy. Sorry you miss the point. Odds are, you'll 'get' democracy around the time the former Soviet Onion does...
R,
C
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:1, Troll)
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:1)
But America's inistance that they are "purely democratic" when they obviously arn't leaves little room for improvement. Whereas China has conceded they arn't democratic - this gives them alot of room to change.
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:3, Informative)
Hate to burst your bubble, but... (Score:1)
12:33am up 920 days, 11:24, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.04
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:1)
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:2, Insightful)
Not necessarily in the short term.. But in the longer term America's arrogant position will drag it down to anything-but a democratic system... (can anyone say 'previous election' or 'corporate sponsurship of politicians'?) - Though the way I see china is ultimatly having a better system since they'll probably try to combine comunism (the 'citizens input' aspect of it) with democracy and end up with something good.
Remember kids, comunism isn't bad - they just taught you that because 'russia was bad' and 'china is bad': Neither of which are proper communist states.
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:1)
It's just a *coincidence* that every communist country ever instituted has been an oppressive, murderous, soul crushing disaster. Next time for sure.
"Government lies, and newspapers lie, but in a democracy at least they are different lies."
-- Unknown
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:2)
Huh. Nice sweeping generalization there.
I don't know anyone that thinks America is "perfect".
Then again, at least here we have a system in place where we can try to fix the things that AREN'T perfect.
In China, trying to fix the broken things results in the army being called out to drive their tanks into student rallies.
-l
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:1)
Re:We'll try back in a few generations... (Score:2)
OTOH, in Russia (even under the Soviets) nearly everyone makes jokes about the government. Unfortunately, they more they joke about it, the less they do to fix it.
That's getting to be a problem here, too. 8-(
that's not quite right. . . . (Score:2)
In China, people are also free to mock the U.S. government without being shot . .
:)
hawk
Re:that's not quite right. . . . (Score:2)
It's pre-Yakov, but I can't imagine it predating facism/nazism by much (at least as a western joke).
hawk, knower of obscure things
Re:that's not quite right. . . . (Score:2)
But it apparently became quite OK for Russians to mock their government well before the end of communism, probably even before 1980. I don't know if that was because zeal turned to cynicism right up to the top, or if it was because they figured out something good American military leaders learned a very long time ago - let 'em gripe, it's a substitute for rather than a preparation for action.
Eclipse pictures (Score:5, Funny)
Warning: Don't look directly at the pictures. Use a pinhole camera. Once you burn out those rods and cones, they are gone forever. Be careful, please. It's too late for me, but maybe this warning can prevent someone else succumbing to the same fate.
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That reminds me of some lines from the Kids in the Hall...
man sells his jean jacket to the devil for a lifetime supply of pot
man rolls joint, saying...
"A good jean jacket takes time, but brain cells--gone forever."
Solar Eclipse (Score:1)
My All-time favorite Onion headline (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My All-time favorite Onion headline (Score:2, Funny)
JB: Holy shit! I can't believe it, Microsoft patented zeros and ones!
TS: Uhm, what?
JB: Yeah, it's right here, check it out...
TS: Joe, you're reading The Onion again.
JB: Oh, yeah. I forgot.
... and sad to say, Joe was just hired to do network administration...
Re:My All-time favorite Onion headline (Score:1)
Now, this is funny for me because yesterday I sent my girlfriend an email, and then sent one to some colleagues. Unfortunately I signed the business one like I sign the ones to my girlfriend.
I've made a whole load of new friends at work...damn....
Re:My All-time favorite Onion headline (Score:2)
I'm usually not a fan of scatalogical humor, but two of my favorite bits were:
FDR's Fireside Chat Last Night Just a Stream of Cuss Words.
And the huge headline: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT! MAN WALKS ON FUCKING MOON!" subheaded: "Armstrong's Historic First Words: 'Holy living fuck!'"
For some reason, the more swearing there was in the moon landing article, the funnier it became. I remember the moon landing and it was such a solemn thing. And yet, if anything in my entire lifetime merited this kind of "awestruck cussing" it was the moon landing. And nobody swore. Not on VOX anyways...
Mushrooms (Score:1)
If I recall correctly, weren't these standard issue liscense plates a while back? They may have been a bit more expensive, but it seemed like every other Nevada plate had them. It's a big part of NV's history.
Re:Mushrooms (Score:1)
Nope they never were. Up until 1982 we had the colbalt blue plates, from 1982 until this year, we had the silver "Bighorn Sheep" plates, and now we have a color ripoff of the Colorado plates.
Re:Mushrooms (Score:3, Funny)
Heh, it seems Nevada officials would like to leave the bad 'ol days of nuclear testing behind them and focus instead on their illustrious(sp?) history of gambling, prostitution, and racketeering ;-)
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At least Beijing Evening News got ONE thing right. (Score:4, Funny)
We'll know if they've really figured out that The Onion is NOT a news source if they stop accusing Bill Gates of poisoning the water supply [theonion.com], although they might get the same impression from certain other web sites. Oh dear, I can see it now: Yu Bin not only quoting Joe Klein from The Onion, but getting his substantiation from
Is the Onion going to sue? (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, but they don't know what copyright means, either... so they won't get the joke.
Re:Is the Onion going to sue? (Score:1)
And once more... for discrediting/slandering them in a national publication.
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The Onion (Score:1)
Well, as nice as it is to see the paper retract their statments, does the Onion really make that much money? I mean, aside from the ads and paper subscriptions they really don't have a source of capital (Like the classified sections of your other papers)
Re:The Onion (Score:1)
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I can see it now... it's almost an Onion story: "Man Buys Otherwise Free Content".
Seriously, all the good stuff is on their web site. The hardcopy has some ads you don't get on the site, but I'd not pay for that as long as you can type onion.com
Re:The Onion (Score:1)
--RJ
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Gilligan's Island.. those poor people (Score:4, Funny)
But surely they've had a chance to examine our historical documents?
</SpaceQuest>
Big Surprise (Score:5, Funny)
"The story we published was copied word for word from an American on-line newspaper that is notorious for making up blatantly obviously fake stories for the purpose of humor."
Re:Big Surprise (Score:4, Insightful)
You think that the editor for the Beijing Evening News has the guts to sign off on that story?
The Onion making money (Score:2, Interesting)
Oh yeah I am sure they make lots of money. I am sure people ripping of their stories without payment much less credit helps a ton. Piracy capital of the world - what a surprise. :P
Sick Chinnese Propoganda (Score:1, Interesting)
...In case there where a few people left in China who thought Americans might not all be scumbags.
Now they're using our own COMEDY against us. Some governments just HAVE to cause drama and conflict (ours included)... sick sick F**KING SICK.
Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:3, Insightful)
We put in 50 years+ with that site in our back yard. The U.S. winning WW2 started in Nevada at the test site. Hundreds of older workers now have cancer, others never made it this far.
And for all the heart ache they tell us they're ashamed of what those workers accomplished. It's bullshit. For a massive final insult, they decide to store high level nuclear waste in our backyard. Their isn't a nuclear power plant in the entire state, yet we get to store it. None of our tests, mind you, have produced waste in more than 10 years, they're all subcritical(they stop just before achieving fusion).
I don't work at the test site, either, but I do work in Las Vegas at a support site in the IT department.
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:4, Insightful)
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your reference, but wasn't most of the research done at Los Alamos, NM, the University of Chicago, and Oak Ridge, TN, with the first detonation at Trinity Site in New Mexico? I know a lot of later work was done in Nevada, and the primary underground test ranges were there, but I believe that was all post-WW2.
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jon
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:1)
would they bring the ntnl guard and AP/Reuters to stop me? ^.^
that might be fun
ahem. (Score:2)
hawk, Nevadan in exile
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:1)
Ah, you're changing the name of your state to New^Hvada?
Re:Nevada Nuke License Plates (Score:5, Informative)
Wow! Nice revisionist history. Maybe that's what they're teaching in school these days. Let's be clear: We didn't win World War II because of the atomic bomb. The Japanese were already negotiating their surrender before anyone outside Los Alamos knew about the bomb. Truman's whole cabinet was willing to accept their surrender except for his Secretary of State (can't remember his name - but it should live in infamy.)
The Japanese's one condition was that they get to keep their monarchy intact. The SoS didn't want that, so we kept bombing the crap out of them and then popped a couple of atomic bombs. They surrendered unconditionally after that. Yeah, us winning WWII was really dependent on those two nukes. The firestorm that raged through Tokyo (which really got the Japanese to have second thoughts about this whole 'conquering the world' thing) was started by which one of the nukes? Oh yeah, that's right, conventional bombing did that. Tell me, I forget in my dotage, which cities in Germany did we nuke to win the war there?
So, to sum up, Unicron doesn't have a pretty new license plate and the citizens of Washington, DC have no representatives in this country's legislature.
You are one to talk about revisionist history! (Score:3, Informative)
The Japanese never surrendered unconditionally. They were <i>still</i> allowed to keep their Emperor as a figurehead leader, much like the British Constitutional Monarchy, <i>as a condition of their final surrender</i>!. Prior to August 6th, the Japanese had said they would never surrender; a long and drawn-out invasion of the Japanese mainland was called for, probably resulting in heavy casulties on both sides. As it was, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the prime navy/army (forget which is which) bases left in Japan that had not been firebombed out of existance. Thus, they were valid military targets. Less lives were lost in both the atomic explosions then in the firebombing of Tokyo.
So, yes, victory in Japan was dependant upon those two nukes, or perhaps an invasion of Japanese territory. Did you know there were still Japanese who had not surrendered in the Philipeans until sometime after 1960? A Japanese officer had continued raids on Americans in the Philipeans until sometime during the Kennedy administration. Once the Japanese start a war, they try <b>very</b> hard to finish it in their favor.
MOD THIS UP (Score:2)
Hear Hear, this is more real history than the post this guy was responding to.
May I add that nobody wanted to use a nuke, least of all Truman, but allied analysts recognized that there was no way the war was going to end for good without displacement of the Emperor, that before the atom bomb strikes the Japanese were adamant about not displacing the Emperor they revered as a god in any way, and even if a halt to hostilities was mediated they'd strike back again soon to recover lands & honor. In the classic 1970's miniseries "The World At War" Japanese ex-military leaders from the time explain in exact terms that they and the Emperor's government were trying to get a pause in the fighting from Russia and/or the US in order to regroup & counterattack. It was only after the Hiroshima hit that the Emperor met with his subordinates and started to talk about stepping down from supreme leadership. The historical record shows that it WAS the bomb that ended that war right then & there.
We had to alter the regime in Japan to insure a lasting peace with the country. Leaving the Emperor with power would have been too dangerous and could have resulted in a pacific war redux. It was war dammit, a dirty business and a far cry from what we're calling "war" today. I'm a pretty liberal guy, but pretending we commited some damned atrocity by dropping that bomb is an insult to the multitudes of men killed by the Japanese in that war. You think dropping the bomb was beyond the pale? Try beheading men en-masse who fucking surrendered to you because your culture tells you men who surrender don't deserve their lives. Try working men to death. Try torture for kicks. Try dragging out every single battle needlessly by fighting to the last fucking man even when you know you're beat. All these things the Japanese did, and each one is as horrendous as dropping those bombs.
BTW, there's no better source of WWII history on film than the miniseries The World at War [amazon.com]. 24 hour-long episodes that kick anything on the History Channel's ass.
Re:You are one to talk about revisionist history! (Score:3, Informative)
On July 27th, 1945, with the Potsdam Proclamation, we told the Japanese to surrender unconditionally. The Japanese considered their emperor a god. There were high level talks between Truman's cabinet and the Japanese cabinet about the surrender. J. F. Byrnes (looked it up this time), Truman's Secretary of State insisted that we not accept Japan's surrender with the condition that they keep their emperor.
On the 6th of August, we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. On the 9th, Russia invaded Manchuria at the same time we dropped the bomb on Nagasaki. Up until this point, Russia and Japan had been neutral and Japan had been trying to negotiate a conditional surrender through the Russians.
For the next 4 days, the Japanese Cabinet debated whether to surrender. It required a unanimous vote to do so and the 'hawks' weren't having any of it. On the 14th, Emperor Hirohito himself told the cabinet to accept the surrender. This was after he'd learned, through diplomatic channels, that 'unconditional surrender' didn't mean the same thing to us as it did to the Japanese. The Japanese were afraid it meant that we might execute the emperor or put him on trial for war crimes. We told them it actually meant we didn't care if they kept the emperor, as long as there was a democratically elected government. The cabinet voted to surrender then and the head of the War Department committed hara-kiri the day after.
The fact is that the Japanese did accept our terms for surrender and that it was 'unconditional', but there was an understanding that it didn't mean they had to get rid of the emperor. We can debate endlessly about what would have happened if we hadn't used nukes or if we'd dropped the 'unconditional surrender' or even if Russia had decided to switch sides or if we'd allowed Patton to roll the tanks and take on Russia like he wanted to.
Getting back to the original point, we didn't win WWII because of the atomic bomb. It helped decide when exactly the end was going to be, but without the backroom - 'yeah, we said unconditional, but we don't really care' - the Japanese would have fought on for quite some time. And I know we're looking back on it with 20/20 hindsight, but a diplomatic ending to the war could have been achieved much earlier, except for the fact that everyone was looking for a military solution. And there was the revenge factor for Pearl Harbor.
There's our history lesson for the day. Your inane comment about a few Japanese idiots in the Philippines has no bearing. I grew up in Georgia and to this day there's numbnuts down there who have rebel flags and vow 'the South's going to rise again.' The fact that some people are unable to accept defeat and move on with their lives says nothing about the Japanese (or American) people as a whole.
Re:You are one to talk about revisionist history! (Score:2)
>hindsight, but a diplomatic ending to the
> war could have been achieved much earlier,
uhh, yeah. In fact, that was an option on December 8, 1941--and the one that the Japanese were *planning on* when they attacked . . . the attack was an attempt to keep us out of the war, not to get us in it . .
hawk
A nuke plate would look good on my door (Score:2)
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Nevada Nuke Plates (Score:1)
From the UCSD article... (Score:3, Insightful)
let you see through the crowds and undistinguished buildings to reveal nearby friends, potential colleagues, departments, labs, and interesting events. By making the clutter transparent and highlighting otherwise invisible things, the confusing bustle of the campus becomes more sensible and within reach.
Wow, so instead of conversing with all those icky people(clutter) who aren't like me, I can ignore them and be instantly in touch with a community of like-minded(close minded?) people just like me.
So, like the internet, this is a new way for subcultures to reinforce their ties to each other and keep people apart.
Re:From the UCSD article... (Score:1)
It's the best way I could think of to implement such a system to allow for meeting strangers as well as meeting those in your subcommunity while still giving users full and total control over what information they want to publish about themselves and to who. Promiscuous mode is pretty popular. There's also a location-based 'graffiti' system (It's a _lot_ nicer now than in the screenshots in the paper) that anyone can post to and everyone can see which might introduce you to some different people to say the least. ;)
If you've got some better ideas on how to do this, I'd like to hear them.
Re:From the UCSD article... (Score:2)
Now if you could use the graffiti mode to replace billboards and ads, like the way they do with major league baseball games, THAT would be cool
The Chinese Knows What Satire Is, Believe Me (Score:3, Insightful)
Les Éditions Albert René (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Les Éditions Albert René (Score:2, Funny)
You shouldn't put an accent on a capital letter...
But, alas, this particular mistake seems to be spreading a lot...
*snif!*
Re:Les Éditions Albert René (Score:2)
/Brian
Slackware Eclipse (Score:2, Interesting)
The photo was taken using my great Canon PowerShot A40. The bluish shadow is due to a reflection inside the Slackware CD I was using as a filter.
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Solar Eclipse and the X-Files (Score:3, Interesting)
The same could be said for this picture [oneorzero.com] but the lines are too narrow.
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hello from lima ohio (Score:1)
Tripping the Rift? Ugh... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Tripping the Rift? Ugh... (Score:2)
Good eclipse pictures (Score:2)
Talk about the pot calling the kettle... (Score:2, Insightful)
Okay, so maybe 1 million in circulation is not a 'small newspaper.' Then again, china has how many people in it?
And we *should* cut these people some slack. After all, they live in a country where supporters of a religion can be executed, and where criminals serve as involuntary organ donors.
Ixian? we talking about Dune? (Score:2)
Re:Ixian? we talking about Dune? (Score:1)
Copying? (Score:1)
On Fox News they said the exact same sentence
Can't remember if more of what they said is the same though. I need a PVR so I can go back and sheck these things.
Ixianism (Score:1)
Translation of beijing evening new article (Score:3, Informative)
On June 3rd, we reported that members of the US Congress were pressing for construction of a brand-new Capitol, complete with a retractable dome and luxury boxes, in order to stay competitive.
Our reporter in Washington checked out the story, he discovered that some of its contents were identical to the Onion's joke article.
Some small American newspapers frequently fabricate offbeat news to trick people into noticing them, with the aim of making money. This is what the Onion does. According to congressional workers, the Onion is a publication that never ceases making up false reports.
This is a practice that we, fortunately, do not suffer from China. In China, newspapers are not allowed to make up all sorts of wild stories about our dear leaders. We were therefore caught off guard.
We are open to our readers' criticism, and we apologize.
Re:L?s Editions? (Score:1)
"Les ?ditions Albert Ren?"
"Just because you haven't figured out how to type an accented uppercase E..."
Question marks are used for accents in the Redmondlian language, right?
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Re:Tripping the Rift (Score:2)
It's true - South Park was originally titled "The Spirit of Christmas" and was an electronic Christmas card - actually a 51 meg video (which was huge back in the day) transferred from VHS. Some high-up executive from Fox asked those two guys to create an animated Christmas card, and he gave them a big chunk of money - they were as cheap as possible on production and blew the rest on beer (and probably pot, but that's just my speculation). The construction-paper animation, constant profanity by eight-year-olds, combined with the epic Jesus v. Santa fight made it a huge hit on the web. I remember getting it off the network at RPI back in early 97. There was a version with Frosty in it too, but that one was the first draft and they got rid of him - guess it wasn't offensive enough.
I tried to find it on ifilm but the link was broken. Still, a search for "soxmas" [google.com] should pull something up.