Neither Rain, Nor Snow, Nor Dark of Night... 278
Digital_Quartz writes "This week's I, Cringely discusses possible plans for ensuring your data survives Hurricane Frances. I've always though remote backups would be the best solution to a problem like this. Maybe even something as simple as hiding a DVD-R under your desk at work, with all your worldly data on it. How do you secure your precious data against earthquakes, hurricanes, and swarms of locusts?" Reader pillageplunder writes "CNN is reporting: 'Scientists say more storms like Frances -- both very intense and very large -- are likely.' They theorize that warming oceans natural cycles are setting the stage. Some interesting facts throughout the article... Forecasting has gotten better, with a 3 day forecast now having a margin of error or 'only' 200 miles." And an anonymous reader writes "For those peer-2-peer geeks stuck in hurricane Frances, you can now listen to Central Florida Indymedia's coverage of the hurricane. In addition to giving updates about the hurricane, they are playing music, interviews, and relaying other radio stations. Possibly more interesting than the content to Slashdot readers will be the fact that it is being done via peer-2-peer. The java program p2p-radio from p2p-radio.sourceforge.net is being used in conjunction with shoutcast to deliver the content. Details on how to connect are available here on Tampa Indymedia's Website."
Acts of God (Score:2, Interesting)
nuke it! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:nuke it! (Score:4, Funny)
So you mean I've been blowing at it for nothing?
Re:nuke it! (Score:5, Informative)
Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not a good idea.
I guess I shouldn't be laughing so hard that this answer is under the frequently asked questions section on the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory website, but I really can't help myself.
Re:nuke it! (Score:2)
Re:nuke it! (Score:4, Funny)
Nukes won't work because they don't have the power to counter the hurricane. A better approach is to build a giant plexiglass shield off the coast. This is also a solid defense against shark attacks.
Re:nuke it! (Score:3, Informative)
This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. I live in Orlando, and have known a lot of Sea World employees, and those who have worked the "Shark Encounter" exhibit tell me they have to replace the plexiglass every year because the sharks are relentless at gnawing through it.
What we really need is a shield made of transparent aluminum.
Re:nuke it! (Score:3, Informative)
Hurricanes are a force of nature with the fury of an angry god. There are only three things we humans can presently do about them:
1) Secure yo
Re:nuke it! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:nuke it! (Score:3, Funny)
Wow, I didn't realize the President read Slashdot! That's almost as good an idea as the one you had about clear-cutting, er, I mean, thinning forrests to prevent wildfires.
Yet another example of your common-sense approach to the environment. Keep up the good work!
While we're on the subject, (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:While we're on the subject, (Score:2, Informative)
I know, doesn't make it sound as menacing as the way you put it, but exaggeration does that.
Personally, I'm rather surprised his prediction didn't work out. A prediction that there won't be any major quakes in a large section of California for the next 9 months, would be just as unlikely to come true.
That pr
Simple... (Score:5, Funny)
-or-
As Linus suggested, put it on an FTP site and let the world mirror it.
Re:Simple... (Score:5, Funny)
1) Tar your data up in a nice, big file--pad it with BS to get it up to at least a couple dozen megs;
2) Encrypt it with something strong--AES-256 should do it--and keep the key safe;
3) Rename the ciphertext file to "XXX Brittany Spears Double Penetration ATM moneyshot!!!.mpg" or something similar;
4) Share it with your favorite KaZaA client, rate it high, and watch the mirroring happen.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Simple... (Score:2)
Q.
Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:5, Insightful)
Your harddrives. In a nice, heavy, watertight safe. It's not going anywhere.
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:2)
Now, if it were bolted down onto a slap of concrete and the drives were mounted directly into the safe itself...
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:3, Informative)
Also, If you had bolted the safe to a concrete slab (such as a foundation) why mount the drives to the safe? It's not like they're going to be blown around by the wind inside the closed safe.
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:2)
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:2)
Maybe not the wind, but flooding will carry that puppy downstream just fine. (Hint to the poster talking about the freeway... it wasn't the wind or rain that did that, it was the tidal surge and flooding.)
So maybe the trick is to mount that safe above flood level...
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:2)
Saltwater can do some pretty crazy damage and given that they're predicting up to a 15ft storm surge, there are probably a lot of houses in Florida that are lower than that.
125MPH winds can do a lot of damage too...
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:2)
Watertight safes arent going to melt away like cotton in h2so4 just because there is salt water, end even the ceiling falling on a normal sized safe should produce more shock to the drive than placing it down on the desk.
Of course you should prevent it from bouncing around, e.g. by putting it into a padded drawer,ect, but that shoulnd be a problem
you could buy a gun safe (Score:3, Interesting)
Add a waterproof container and lock your safe, and you can probably evacuate with impunity.
Side note: a friend of mine was researching buying just such an item a few years back, and had literature from a bunch of companies. The funniest brochure had a series of pictures of safes involved in various disaste
Re: Simply unplug those HDDs, and... (Score:4, Informative)
You'd be surprised what a hurricane can throw around. Or even just a tropical storm.
Look at a map of eastern Texas from a few years ago and you'll see Highway 87 running along the coast. Most of that highway doesn't exist anymore. Traveling north from Galveston for about 15 miles you run into a blockade in the middle of the road re-routing you to the north. If you park there and walk along the highway, it disappears after a few hundred yards. This is what Tropcial Storm Francis did in the late 90's. When I first went there, there were huge slabs of freeway sticking out of the beach at odd angles. You could look at the layers of asphalt and concrete that had been laid on it over the years. Some were sticking almost straight up like giant monoliths. THIS USED TO BE A FREEWAY, and you think your little safe isn't going to move? At some parts you could look out into the Gulf at low tide and see more chunks of highway. Even if your safe didn't move, if you lived near the coast it might get buried under 30 feet of sand. Good luck finding it.
To summarize:
Tropical storm Francis blew apart a freeway.
Hurricane Frances is much stronger.
You can't escape nature.
Oh, and that stretch of beach is now mercifully free of tourists, so it's great for shell collecting.
Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2, Funny)
Frankovich says the children of survivors of Hurricane Andrew were recently asked to bring in their baby teeth when they fell out, for what was called the "Tooth Fairy Study." It was found that these children had radiation levels seven times higher than what is considered safe.
Frankovich lived directly behind the Metrozoo. While the zoo reported that only a few animals died, in reality 95% of
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2, Funny)
http://tampaindymedia.org/bin/site/templates/de
How can you say that?
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2, Insightful)
The neat thing about indymedia is that generally (there are some minor checks and balances), anyone can post anything. You get nutty posts like the first one, and everything else in between.
From reading your other posts, I get the feeling you're the sort of person who equates criticism of the Israeli government with anti-semetism, so I won't even address the second link you posted.
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2, Interesting)
The leaders of the PA have to keep their population upset with Israli because they do not want their people to know how much money they have taken from them. With as much aid as the PA gets from the EU, USA and the UN it should be a much better place to live.
And, don't you think that Israel would stop counter attacking
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2, Insightful)
I certainly won't, and I hope you won't either. What do you think happened when an Israeli F16 shoots missiles into an apartment building in one of the most densely populated places on Earth? Innocents get turned into "legitimate military targets." Is the inevitable civilian carnage and misery, and the bus-bombers it creates, worth a couple dead possible Hamas supporters?
The leaders of the PA have to keep their popula
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2)
Of course, Arafat said he'd put 5 bullets in the chest of anyone who stops the PA from making Jerusalem its capital, and he refused to go through with Oslo because it required giving up the 'Palestinian right of return' to Israeli territory. Fufilling such a r
Babies are born with Strontium-90 in their teeth (Score:2)
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2)
Re:Indymedia is Insane. (Score:2)
Yeah, this is one of the major problems with Indymedia. They claim to be "independent", but in reality they only promote a particular political point of view. Of course it's their site, they can do whatever they want with it, but they shouldn't try to claim that they are a democratic source of "truth".
If you criticize Indymedia, you invariably get a response of "look at free republic!", but Free Republic admits that they are pro
ourobouros rising (Score:5, Funny)
Re:ourobouros rising (Score:2)
Re:ourobouros rising (Score:2)
Certain Slashdot posters are MORE dense... (Score:2, Insightful)
I have some news for you, Mister AC
1) you need an apostrophe inserted in "its", above.
2) we are all going to die, no matter what the global climate does.
2) a) the coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave man dies but once.
3) What I think is funny NOW, is the shortsighted and selfish behavior of so many people who call themselves intelligent.
Now THAT is hilarious ( and disgusting ).
4) Life is a t
Re:ourobouros rising (Score:2)
Re:ourobouros rising (Score:2)
Re:Funny? Mods on crack? (Score:2)
calissavirus in Australia.
Simple. (Score:5, Funny)
Remember, it isn't that the wind is blowing, it's what the wind is blowing.
Re:Simple. (Score:2)
And I don't want the job of recovering it.
Nice Software! (Score:2)
mail it (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:mail it (Score:2)
DVD-R (Score:4, Insightful)
Also, if something happens that is severe enough to destroy the disk, it will probably also kill you, so you won't be needing that data backup anymore.
Have a nice trip? See you next fall. (Score:3, Informative)
Great, until you trip over something on the floor in the dark at the shelter because the power's out, trip, and fall flat on your face, with the disk in your jacket pocket.
DVD-R's and CD-Rs are remarkably fragile.
Re:Have a nice trip? See you next fall. (Score:2)
They are also cheap. Burn a few - carry one with you, put one under your desk, put on in the car. Heck, put one in the refridgerator if you feel like it. Chances are atleast one will survive.
Re:DVD-R (Score:2)
You can access data from a DVD-R wherever you are? What, do you have a drive in your butt?
I assume it's slot-loading. Because discs would fall out of the mechanical tray, right?
I can just see you over at tech support one day:
"Hey, guys. I've got a coasterized CD stuck in my drive. Can one of you strap on some gloves and get it out?"
Trade Space (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, I send 20G to my sister's system (arizona), my sister sends up to my father's system (stuart fl), and my father's system will be sending it to me (Colorad) (Unfortunately, it was not a high priority, but it will be that way once he gets home and cleans up).
Simply trade space with friends.
Re:Trade Space (Score:2)
Re:Trade Space (Score:2)
hosting facility == hurricaine shelter (Score:3, Interesting)
If the storm turns towards us at a bad time a lot of people are going to be heading to shelters. I'm heading to our hosting facility. Diesel backup power, redundant Internet connections, built like a bunker, away from the ocean.
My servers are in the safest place I can think to go.
Righteous use of P2P file sharing (Score:2, Funny)
2. Rename it to something like "Star Wars Trilogy DVD Complete Rip.avi"
3. Share it on P2P network!
Move to California, of course! (Score:2)
Re:Move to California, of course! (Score:2)
I live in the California desert. I have also been through a hurricane (when traveling, in the mid-west).
I can safely say that the wind gusts blowing through here on a weekly basis, are actually hurricane-force.
Of course, we live through them with very little property damage, and it isn't raining hail at the same time, so we do get off a bit easier. But on the opposide end, in other parts of the country, you know the trees around you will be standing, on a day-t
Re:Move to California, of course! (Score:2, Insightful)
No, I'm afraid you haven't. A thunderstorm maybe, which can be really nasty in the midwest, but they aren't hurricanes and lack the most destructive part of the hurricane. The ocean.
Live in Florida? Have a nice big cement dome built, with bullet-proof plexiglass windows/skylights.
This works until it gets hit by a ship or the ground underneath it simply ceases to exist. Florida's bedrock is saturated limestone and not to be trusted
Re:Move to California, of course! (Score:2)
Six feet? You obviously have never lived long-term in places where it seriously floods. In Houston in 2003, there was 18 feet of water in my building.
In Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky it can flood 30 or 40 feet.
I'm sure there are other parts of the country that get it worse.
Are you suggesting people build their homes on top of five-story pilings?
Forecasting... (Score:5, Informative)
Hurricanes tend to lose energy over land, but a few days of stormy weather had created a warm, wet carpet beneath its path. Long Island was temporarily cut in half (and a new inlet -- Shinnecock -- was created and exists to this day). Wind speeds exceeded 120 MPH. Fifty foot waves hit Gloucester, MA. The Connecticut River rose 35 feet above its banks. Falmouth, MA (on Cape Cod) was under 8 feet of water. According to historian William Manchester, people in Vermont, 300 miles inland, could smell the ocean.
When it was over, 700 people were dead, 63,000 homeless. Nine thousand buildings were destroyed, along with over 3,000 boats. Wreckage from this hurricane could be seen well into the 1970s. The cost of the damage was $6.2 million in 1938 (Depression) dollars, adjusted to over $15,000,000,000 today.
Two billion trees were blown to the ground. And this was "just" a Cat 3.
So, yeah, the OP bitches about 200 miles give-or-take. Hell, we can see these forming off the coast of West Africa now. When was the last hurricane that killed 700 people here in the US? (Yes, I know about cyclones killing thousands in Bangladesh, and evacuating everyone is nigh unto impossible.)
There's always going to be property damage. But property can be rebuilt. Even a +- 400 mile forecast saves hundreds, even thousands of lives.
Oh, and about that data thing? Just ftp your stuff somewhere and let everyone else mirror it. Worked for Linus, right?
k.
Websites: The Forgotten Backup Problem (Score:4, Interesting)
It doesn't take a hurricane to teach website operators about backup problems, though. Worms that infect and destroy hosting service servers, or router attacks that effectively shut a hosting service down for days produce the same kind of collection of panicked webmasters.
Just backing up website data files is only a part of a website backup plan. You really want at least two independent (that means both geographically independent, and not run by the same company -- don't forget the "FBI shuts down hosting company" scenario) DNS servers listed as authoritative for your domain. Very few websites meet even that lone requirement.
You don't have good data backup if you can't demonstrate that you can recover from disaster, and the same is pretty much true for website backup. If you can't show that you can, within at least a matter of hours, have your website running on a machine it's never lived on before and serving "real" requests from the outside world, then you shouldn't really bother reading the fine print about whether your hosting company claims it offers 99.9% uptime or 99.99% uptime.
Re:Websites: The Forgotten Backup Problem (Score:2)
The main reasons are:
1) recover short term data loss (i.e. does rm move it to the trash?)
2) recovery of bad hardware (disk, power supply dies and kills the box)
3) disaster recovery (tornado, earth quake, building fires)
Each of the three have different requirements and one solution doesn't fit all unless its real expensive.
For example for #1, a big hard disk with a slow mirror of the main file server
DisneyWorld (Score:2)
Duh, put it on the network? (Score:4, Interesting)
If you are in business you should be using something like DataSafe, who will take your backup tapes and put them in very safe keeping should you need them.
After listening (Score:2)
Unless they meant better at fear mongering, in that case they're top-notch.
ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:5, Funny)
you're going to turn on the TV and see a weather person pointing to some
radar blob out in the Atlantic Ocean and making two basic meteorological
points.
(1) There is no need to panic.
(2) We could all be killed.
Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Florida. If you're
new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to do to prepare
for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big one." Based on our
insurance industry experiences, we recommend that you follow this simple
three-step hurricane preparedness plan:
STEP 1: Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family for at
least three days.
STEP 2: Put these supplies into your car.
STEP 3: Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Halloween.
Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow this
sensible plan. Most people will foolishly stay here in Florida.
We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness items:
HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE: If you own a home, you must have hurricane
insurance. Fortunately, this insurance is cheap and easy to get, as long as
your home meets two basic requirements:
(1) It is reasonably well-built, and
(2) It is located in Wisconsin
Unfortunately, if your home is located in Florida, or any other area
that might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies would
prefer not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they might be
required to pay YOU money, and that is certainly not why they got into the
insurance business in the first place. So you'll have to scrounge around for
an insurance company, which will charge you an annual premium roughly equal
to the replacement value of your house. At any moment, this company can drop
you like used dental floss.
SHUTTERS: Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the windows,
all the doors, There are several types of shutters, with advantages and
disadvantages:
Plywood shutters: The advantage is that, because you make them yourself,
they're cheap.
Sheet-metal shutters: The advantage is that these work well, once you
get them all up. The disadvantage is that once you get them all up, your
hands will be useless bleeding stumps, and it will be December.
Roll-down shutters: The advantages are that they're very easy to use,
and will definitely protect your house. The disadvantage is that you will
have to sell your house to pay for them.
Hurricane-proof windows: These are the newest wrinkle in hurricane
protection: They look like ordinary windows, but they can withstand
hurricane winds! You can be sure of this, because the salesman says so. He
lives in Nebraska.
Hurricane Proofing your property: As the hurricane approaches, check
your yard for movable objects like barbecue grills, planters, patio
furniture, visiting relatives, etc... You should, as a precaution, throw
these items into your swimming pool (if you don't have a swimming pool, you
should have one built immediately). Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn
these objects into deadly missiles.
EVACUATION ROUTE:
If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation route
planned out. (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area, look at
your driver's license; if it says "Florida," you live in a low-lying area.)
The purpose of having an evacuation route is to avoid being trapped in your
home when a major storm hits. Instead, you will be trapped in a gigantic
traffic jam several miles from your home, along with two hundred thousand
other evacuees. So, as a bonus, you will not be lonely.
HURRICANE SUPPLIES:
If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies. Do not buy them
now! Florida tradition requires that you wait unti
Re:ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:5, Informative)
Hurricane season can make a storm shudder [miami.com]
Re:ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:2, Informative)
Re:ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:2, Informative)
Really? I realize that the resultant liquid might not be good to drink, but won't it at least be sterile? I had the impression that bleach was pretty good at killing anything that got immersed in it, even after being diluted quite a bit.
Re:ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:2)
Re:ATTENTION FLORIDIANS (Score:2, Interesting)
It does not take as much as you think if the water is fairly safe to start with. 2 tbs per gallon and left sit for 30 minutes after shaking is a safe way to sterilize the water. Almost all city water supplies use chlorine is some form to treat the drinking water. Boiling may not be possible as you would not have electricity and open flames in a closed u
redundant whatever it is (Score:2)
I've been working with CDs and DVDs a lot lately. (My day job is writing backup software) A large portion of the media I have fails within just a few months. Not everything, but just one unreadable sector is enough to cause problems.
Therefore I have to reccomend that you make several backups of everything important. Note however that important doesn't mean everything. You can download linux from anywhere, save the pictures. (though family and friends can get you copies of many of them too) IF y
XOR groups (Score:2)
Is there anything public domain that will do this? I tried Google and found nothing.
Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
Somewhere there is webpage and graphics of someone testing PAR2 data recovery by using a felt pen to blot out chunks of a CD, and the
Re:Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
The situation is this: we have some 200 workstations. These have way too much diskspace, as you cannot buy small disks these days anymore. 4GB would be plenty for a business-use workstation (just the OS and some applications are stored there), but the workstations have 40 or 80 GB disks.
This means there is about 8TB of unused diskspace.
The servers have much less diskspace than that, in total. It would be possible to store several backups
Re:Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
The worst part though was if you took a backup from one system with access control lists to another. Normalising the identifiers was *hard
Re:Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
If I remember correctly, RAR can do almost what we need except for the requirement to store the different parts on different machines (= in different destination directories). And except it does not do on-the-fly PAR2 generation but leaves that to a separate utility that again reads all the files.
And of course, t
Re:Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
My advice to you is whatever you are running, don't switch to XP.
Just a base, patched install of Windows XP runs just over 2 Gig, then when you try to put SP2 on it (dont bother) it'll need just under 4 for the install process.
But like I said, after fooling around with it, I have found no reason to bother with SP2.
Re:Something like PAR2? (Score:2)
There are even some old systems with 3.2 GB disks and they have room to spare.
But it does not matter, replace the 4 GB with 8 GB if you like and you still see a lot of free space on a business workstation with the smallest disk available today. All data is of course stored on servers.
Seriously, come on now (Score:3, Insightful)
So what CNN is basically saying is that we'll continue to have seasonal storms just like we have for all of human history.
They really needed "scientists" to tell them that?
LK
Re:Seriously, come on now (Score:2)
Hi-res Florida webcams (Score:4, Interesting)
The best camera is the Miami Beach ultra high resolution panoramic webcam. [evs123.com] 8000 x 2320 pixels.
Re:Hi-res Florida webcams (Surf's Up!) (Score:2)
At 1333, the cops have the beaches cleared, and there's just one emergency vehicle. A few good waves, but not much happening.
RAIS (Score:2, Interesting)
if you had enough hosts constantly passing packets between each other it should be theoretically possible to store some information exclusively within the packets during the routing transfer.
Meaning, as soon as the data was passed to a router the node running the host sofware could free the memory space it previously occupied.
imagine RAIS (Redundant Array of Independant Systems). A p2p network on which you dedicate
Before you store data at work... (Score:3, Interesting)
Better check your employment agreement before you do that. If you develop code 'on the side' it could be difficult to prove that you didn't do any work on it at work. Maybe the company could claim ownership simply because it was on their premises. Definately could muddy the legal waters - tread carefully.
Why don't they start building better houses? (Score:2)
Re:Why don't they start building better houses? (Score:2, Insightful)
1. Let the insurance companies raise the homeowners premiums to astronomical amounts or flat out deny coverage
2. Deny _any_ federal disaster assistance
to property/homeowners that own/build in high risk areas and don't build/upgrade to withstand a major storm with only minimal damage.
The idea of living on the beach is nice and all, but those who fail to remember that Mother Nature is in charge should get what they deserve. If you want to build your $2,000,
Duh... (Score:2)
Your IT technology must do the same. Here's what I use in keeping data safe for a hosted application:
1) The primary server is configured with RAID1 - either hard drive fails, I can pull the bad one and continue working while I replace the primary drive. It has 3 independant redundant
In-House Security (Score:3, Interesting)
Place 250 Gig hard drive inside, packed in bubble wrap and newspaper one foot thick.
heh. *A* dvd-r? (Score:2)
Hell, I've generated something like sixteen gigs of data in the last ten weeks. Which is slightly above average, but not by much. As a digital (and video!) artist, I eat hard drives, and backups are something of an annoyance- more for the tedium of the burn or tape time tha
Rsync (Score:2)
1957? (Score:2)
The beginnings of the internet go back at least as far as 1957, which marks the founding of the Defence Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) in response to the Soviet Union launching Sputnik.
In 1963, ARPA asked the Rand Corporation to ponder how to form a command-and control network capable of surviving attack by atomic bombs.
The Rand Corporation's response (made public in 1964) was that the network would "have no central authori
And the inevitable reference to Global Warming... (Score:4, Informative)
Hurricanes are a natural part of the weather system, folks. The only unnatural thing about the path of Hurricane Frances is the large number of mobile homes, wooden framed building, expensive condos and idiots who refuse to evacuate from all of the above.
The number of Atlantic hurricanes has DECLINED over the last 50 years. Put that in your climate model and smoke it.
And for those fascinated by climate models, here's a kicker from the IPCC 2001:
"In sum, a strategy must recognize what is possible. In climate research and modeling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear system, and therefore that the prediction of a specific future climate is not possible."
I shall use my patented slashdot idiot model to predict that the next few posters will claim that:
- the majority of scientists believe human induced global warming to be a fact (not true, and since when has science ever been decided by popular vote?)
- that "ScienceThinker" is not a scientist (guess what?)
- that there are "ominous signs" of climate change (when weren't there?)
- that the buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is unprecedented (no it isn't)
GO!
Locusts? (Score:2)
Don't worry. Locusts eat plants, not data.
A little late, isn't it? (Score:2)
I took my critical data with me (Score:2, Interesting)
I backed up all my critical personal data to DVD and took it with me to our data center near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida where I spent the night on an air mattress in an empty office.
The data center is rated to take a high category 3 strike on the outside of the building (140 mph reinforced glass windows) and up to a category 5 strike on the reinforced concrete data center core. We also have 2 X
Hurricane? (Score:2)
Re:Next on Indymedia Radio! (Score:2)
Re:Safe as can be (Score:4, Interesting)
Not true, there are hurricanes in Wisconson and Minnesota. Of course by the time they make it even the worst of them are minor storms, less powerful than a normal summer thunderstorm. If it wasn't for the weathermen looking for trivia like hurricanes to try to make things interesting we would never know.
There are worse things than saying something positive about the Vikings, you slip in something positive about the packers for instance.
Re:HAARP? (Score:2, Insightful)
KFG