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Cell Phone with Camera = Scanner

Posted by CmdrTaco on Tue Feb 24, 2004 08:20 AM
from the thats-a-clever-idea dept.
An anonymous reader writes "TechJapan has posted a translation of an Impress Watch Article regarding a new technology developed by NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology, that lets people use their cellular phones with cameras as scanners. It says all you have to do is move your phone over the surface of the piece of paper while recording a movie, and the technology (some sort of software I presume) will construct a high resolution image from the individual frames of the video. Here is the original (Japanese) NEC press release." I'd love to see before and afters to see how well this works.
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  • that's great but... (Score:5, Funny)

    by bsDaemon (87307) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:22AM (#8372413)
    (http://www.anreabhloid.org/)
    does it make phone calls?
  • And I wonder when... by Advocadus Diaboli (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:22AM
  • Ocr? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by rotciv86 (737769) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:24AM (#8372430)
    Why make a hi-res image, why not just OCR it? That could probably even be done on the phone. Then you could email or send it as a plain text document, much smaller file size then an image.
    • Re:Ocr? by kuiken (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:28AM
    • Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Mwongozi (176765) <slashthree.davidglover@org> on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:29AM (#8372473)
      (http://www.davidglover.org/)
      Because it might not be text?
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by LostCluster (625375) * on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:30AM (#8372484)
      OCR is overrated still. It's not that accurate, and needs more processing power than your cell phone has on board. It's still not ready for primetime.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Ocr? by jafuser (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @05:23PM
    • Re:Ocr? (Score:4, Informative)

      by BJH (11355) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:33AM (#8372507)
      Because OCRing Japanese text is a lot more difficult than with English text?

      I'm not kidding - there are Japanese OCR apps, but the accuracy is way below English OCR unless you're using a really good page image.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Ocr? by Threni (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:44AM
        • Re:Ocr? by Destoo (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @11:33PM
    • Re:Ocr? by swordboy (Score:3) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:39AM
    • Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Dan East (318230) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:41AM (#8372553)
      (http://dexplor.com/)
      Wouldn't OCR be more difficult in Japanese than english? With english many letters are required to create a single word, thus if individual letters are not properly recognized they can still be determined by their context within both the word and the entire sentence.

      In Japanese there are fewer symbols per word, many more symbols to choose from, and symbols that contain much more detail.

      So I would think OCR in Japanese would be many times more difficult than OCR in english.

      Finally, you now have a phone that is only useful for scanning Japanese. If it acted like a real scanner then it would be useful for any language.

      Dan East
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      • Re:Ocr? by jafuser (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @05:29PM
    • Re:Ocr? by Canuckanuck (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:50AM
    • Re:Ocr? by ajs (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:55AM
    • Re:Ocr? by jovlinger (Score:3) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:11AM
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  • Old tech (Score:5, Insightful)

    I remember seeing news about Japanese scanner pens (smaller than any cell phone nowadays) that would let you write with it, OCR scan text, and it store the text. I don't have a link right now because I'm lazy. But those were a few hundred dollars back then - maybe eight years ago.

    This is probably just a combination of that technology (which never took off here) and the cell phone feature craze.
    • Re:Old tech by indigeek (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:08AM
      • Re:Old tech by emilng (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:51AM
    • Primax Datapen by enosys (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @11:40AM
    • Re:Old tech by pacc (Score:3) Tuesday February 24 2004, @12:13PM
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  • Here's the text of the article (Score:4, Informative)

    by laird (2705) <lairdpNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:25AM (#8372446)
    (Last Journal: Monday April 07 2003, @07:39AM)
    NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology have cooperated to develop technology which allows for phones with cameras - even low resolution cameras - to act as scanners, by having users move their camera over the surface of the page.

    NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology have devloped technology which uses movie recordings to produce high quality images, on par with those of a scanner. This technology will be aimed atcellular phones and video cameras.

    The technique involves recording a part of the subject to a movie, while moving the camera; the "Mosaicing Technology" analyzes the moving image and estimates the three-dimensional position of the subject, and under the supervision of the "Ultra Resolution Technology," the joining points of the image are deleted, thereby optimizing it so that even low resolution cameras can produce scanner like output. In other words, even cellular phones and video cameras can produce high quality images.

    Up until now, there were certain cameras that contained equipment to turn low quality images into high quality ones, but this technology marks the first time that this sort of technique can be accomplished with existing equipment. For example, a high quality image can be produced of an A4 size sheet of paper from video cameras currently on the market.

    Inspired by:
    http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/article/news_t oppag e/17729.html

    News Release:
    http://www.nec.co.jp/press/ja/0402/2303. html
  • In related news (Score:5, Funny)

    by l0ungeb0y (442022) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:26AM (#8372448)
    (http://www.musecube.com/l0ungeb0y/ | Last Journal: Monday February 09 2004, @06:38PM)
    Stay tuned for the explosive shockumentary, where we demonstrate how two tin cans and a piece of string make for a handy alternative to VoIP.
  • Vinyl by eap (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:26AM
    • Re:Vinyl by heikkih (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:41AM
      • Re:Vinyl by eap (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @06:58PM
    • Re:Vinyl by nempo (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:45AM
  • One way or the other it's coming. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ahfoo (223186) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:27AM (#8372452)
    (Last Journal: Friday April 04 2003, @12:49AM)
    Whether some trick like this makes it happen sooner rather than later only time will tell, but eventually just in terms of raw resolution camera equipped cell phones will be functional full-color scanners.
    And this is where things get interesting because fair use permits compies of material in the library for research. But if enough students scan journals at high resolution and then organize and exchange them through the Net, there will be an enormous levelling of the academic playing field. That is a time I look forward to with eager anticipation.
  • Virtual Wide Angle Lenses? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jobbegea (748685) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:28AM (#8372469)
    (http://www.heitelan.nl/create.php?card_id=203)
    It only mentions paper as the object to take a picture of, but it might also work for objects further away. This could solve the problem of the often very narrow angle lenses those tiny cameras have.
    Stitching multiple images automatically is nothing new but is CPU intensive. So Moore's law will take care of that.
  • Wouldn't it be fun to watch? by kniLnamiJ-neB (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:31AM
  • presumptious by random_rabbit (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:32AM
  • Problem before? (Score:3, Informative)

    by neiffer (698776) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:38AM (#8372527)
    (http://www.google.com/)
    And magazine publishers (especially in Japan!) thought they had problems before with pirating articles...perhaps this is another forced movement towards changing the way we see and envision publishing content.
  • Old news (Score:3, Funny)

    by EulerX07 (314098) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:38AM (#8372530)
    I'm sure James Bond and MacGiver have been doing this very technique for quite some time now.
    • Re:Old news by RedShoeRider (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:28AM
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  • optical tracking by sreid (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:39AM
  • Security Alert! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by erick99 (743982) * <homerun@gmail.com> on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:40AM (#8372545)
    Remember when some folks couldn't take Furby toys to work because of their ability to record or whatever and that made them a security risk? I wonder if this phone that can scan documents might not prompt the same sort of thing in some places. Hey, it could happen....

    Take care!

    Erick

  • Been done before by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:40AM
  • How is "over the surface" defined? by Advocadus Diaboli (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:41AM
  • VideoBrush Whiteboard (Score:4, Interesting)

    by enosys (705759) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:42AM (#8372561)
    (http://dreamlayers.blogspot.com/)
    Has anyone ever used VideoBrush Whiteboard? I think it already did something like this. You could film a whiteboard in a zig-zag pattern and it would stitch togeather the video frames into a high-res image of the whiteboard.

    This software is from the mid to late 90s and unfortunately not available anymore. iPIX purchased the company and discontinued all of its products. There are a few links to buy it but they say it's unavailable and I haven't ever been able to find it on file sharing.

    Another interesting program they had is VideoBrush Panorama. It is can only stich vertical and horizontal pans (don't even try zig-zag). It's pretty cool to be able to get panoramas from video pans, and the software is very easy to use. There is no need for a tripod. You can get an evaluation copy here [www.bdp.it]. This [66.98.132.48] and a resource editor might come in handy if you want to use it.

  • More tools for digital shoplifting? by hussar (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:43AM
  • Scan and Print by null etc. (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:43AM
  • Old handheld scanners... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Stween (322349) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:44AM (#8372570)
    Sounds like something of a workaround to get behaviour similar to that of the old handheld scanners that used be around (I loved my monochrome 300dpi handheld, it was just something of a black art sometimes to try and keep the alignment good).

    I can see why people might want to do this (panoramic photos suddenly springs to mind...), and if I hadn't been surprised by the uptake in camera phones, I might be jumping on the Slashdot bandwagon of "Who'll use it? I want a phone that only makes phone calls! I hate cell phones!!", but camera phones have *seriously* caught on, certainly here in the UK.
  • DoD Security Problems? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gato_mato (572107) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:50AM (#8372625)
    With the problems that the DoD has had in the past with Cell Phones with Cameras I wonder if this will get them even more scared of such technology.

    Imagine if they freaked out over 1Mega Pix cameras because they could take FUZZY pictures of classified docs - This kind of technology will send the DoD over the edge. As it is right now Cell Phones with cameras are prohibited in all classified environments (at least byt the NAVY that I know of).

    A Cell Phone with this kind ouf tech could be banned from the ENTIRE base/post/shipyard etc. One of the things that the drill into your brain in the service is that over time a bunch of little bits of unclassigied data can be made into a very informative report that borders on the classified.

    Just my 3MegaPix Worth
  • They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:52AM
  • Super-resolution by Pemdas (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:52AM
  • Overrated by ANTRat (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:54AM
  • How it probably works by feelyoda (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:57AM
  • counterfeiting...? by caino59 (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:57AM
  • Hmm + partial transl of original by mattr (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:57AM
  • This is not new by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:05AM
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  • Well, like I said on the latest poll... by FooAtWFU (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:07AM
  • Been there, done that by fbonnet (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:07AM
  • Look at Steve Mann's Video Orbits (Score:3, Informative)

    by CandyMan (15493) <(javier) (at) (candeira.com)> on Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:09AM (#8372790)
    (http://barrapunto.com/)
    This sounds suspiciously close to what Steve Mann et al. do with Video Orbits [wearcam.org], automagically compositing different frames from a video, or still pictures of the same scene, into either a higher-resoulution picture or a wider-angle panorama. Sometimes the result is a mix of the two.

    You can even get the code from sourceforge [sourceforge.net], although now he seems more interested in his studies into what he calls "Comparametric Toolkit [sourceforge.net]", which seems to mix Video Orbits with software based on the Wyckoff principle [wearcam.org] (how to get high dynamic range pictures from one underexposed pic and one overexposed pic, for those who don't RTFL).

    I suppose the amount of processing power in those phonecams must be insane, or maybe the algorithm they use is more generic, but it is good to know all this Moore's Law horsepower applied towards useful stuff, not just Laracroftish games (ducks).

    Finally, it is worth of note that, although Mann's software is now GPL (I don't recall it being Free, or even released, last time I checked three years ago), at least one of the algoritms is under US Patent5,706,416 [uspto.gov], which of course is not nice, unless he plans to license it free of charge for GPL software.

  • Can go with the rolling printer thingy by chendo (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:10AM
  • Why a movie? by nuggz (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:14AM
  • HP Capshare handheld scanner did the same. by MDMurphy (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:25AM
  • In Other News... (Score:3, Funny)

    by turgid (580780) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:27AM (#8372945)
    (Last Journal: Friday November 30, @03:32PM)
    Sheep + Kangaroo = Wooly Jumper.

    *ducks*

  • Maybe it is just me? by beware1000 (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:33AM
  • Can it really simulate a virtual copy stand? by dpbsmith (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:52AM
  • Is this technology employed by space telescopes? by pomakis (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:56AM
  • HP Capshare by vasqzr (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:59AM
    • Re:HP Capshare by ischemic (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:46AM
  • by johannesg (664142) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:03AM (#8373306)
    Years ago as I watched Star Trek, I was always left wondering just how Kirk and Spock managed to control all those alien devices they found. Eventually Bluetooth came around, and I realized it was because soon every device in the universe will have a Bluetooth interface (if you are in the US this may be hard to believe, but bear with me). Clearly the tricorder has a Bluetooth interface as well, which is why it can talk to and even control doomsday weapons, planetary defences, ancient medical equipment, etc.

    That still left the question how the tricorder came into being. Did someone sit down one day and say to himself, "I am going to build myself a tricorder?" That just doesn't seem very likely to me.

    But now I finally figured that out too. The tricorder will evolve from the mobile phone! Every year you can see how more and more sensor functionality is added, while the physical size of the phone is getting smaller and smaller. First they could just acquire audio signals. Then came video signals. Soon it will be able to monitor your heartrate, body temperature, and various other vital signs, and maybe even automatically call 911 if you get into trouble. Sensors for electricity, magnetism, seismic waves, spectral analysis, alien energy, and other things will invariably follow, driven as they are by our lust for gadgets, useless functionality, and the latest and greatest. Meanwhile rest assured that ever-increasing software capabilities will provide the ability to make rudimentary medical diagnosis, do chemical analysis, and contain drivers for every alien Bluetooth-enabled device in a thousand lightyears.

    While we are at it, you can rest assured that the very moment someone develops a universal translator, it will be embedded in a mobile phone.

    So there we have it: the tricorder in a small, handy package. There are only two downsides that I can see: if we are to believe Star Trek, it will at some point lose its communication functionality (Kirk was always using a separate communicator), and based on current trends the battery life may not exceed 2-3 minutes...

  • No examples? by pomakis (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:12AM
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  • ALE does this and is GPL (Score:3, Interesting)

    by adamdeprince (600460) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:44AM (#8373772)

    ALE [dyndns.org] is an open source tool that does this nicely. It is normally intended for turning a large number of images of the same thing into one higher quality image, but when you use the --follow and --extend flags. it can turn a sequence of images from a video into a single larger image.

    To quote from their site: ALE is a free software program that renders high-fidelity images of real scenes by aligning and combining many similar images from a camera or scanner. The correct similarity between images is roughly that achieved by a somewhat unsteady hand holding a camera.

  • by zerosignal (222614) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @10:48AM (#8373809)
    (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday January 07 2003, @05:53PM)

    http://www.chiltonwebb.com/iStill/ [chiltonwebb.com]

    iStill uses a proprietary image enhancement engine, which analyzes multiple images and creates one single, high resolution final image by performing a pixel-by-pixel calculation. The result is an image guaranteed to be at least as good as a normal iSight camera screen grab, but which can be considerably better (for the math gurus out there, this is essentially a realtime convolution along the z axis). This is the first software product for the Macintosh to utilize this technique for still image enhancement, and is only the tip of the iceberg
  • Japanese Cell Phones with OCR by kyoko21 (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @11:09AM
  • Iron Eagle by LoudMusic (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @11:16AM
  • old technology by ajagci (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @11:30AM
  • How about the quality? by Marxist-Leninist (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @12:18PM
  • More scifi come to life by antarctican (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @12:29PM
  • WHAT I REALLY WANT! by atheken (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @12:31PM
  • Leave it to the Japanese... by El (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @12:37PM
  • In related news... (Score:3, Funny)

    by dekashizl (663505) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @01:20PM (#8375574)
    (Last Journal: Thursday April 03 2003, @02:07AM)
    In related news...
    WASHINGTON (DP Wire) - The BLAA (Book and Literature Association of America) filed a movement yesterday in 9th circuit federal court to ban the use of cellphones in and within one mile of all libraries in the U.S.


    "This technology has no use other than the blatant piracy of books," said Samuel Ezzle, President of BLAA. "The numbers show," he declared, "that widespread use of these phone scanners has already lead to a sharp increase in illiteracy among children. Further, these devices violate the DMCA, and we are working with libraries across the country to review surveillance tapes in order to find and prosecute anybody who brings these anywhere near a library."
  • Already been done! (Score:3, Informative)

    by josath (460165) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @01:20PM (#8375580)
    (http://blog.davr.org/)
    I remember reading about this, like forever ago.

    It's called "Video Orbits," I guess. Originally, it was made to make panoramic stills from video. But it can also do the same thing mentioned in the article, sort of scanner like.

    Here's the writeup [wearcam.org] and
    you can download it over here [sourceforge.net].

    I played with it a bit using the movie function of my digital camera, transfering to computer, then using

    mplayer -vo png movie.mov && mogrify -format pnm *png && estcement.pl *pnm

    (make sure the binaries and scripts are in your path)
    You can play with the $steps= line in estpairwise.pl to change the settings. also, i like to take out the -display in estpairwise.pl, in order to speed things up, otherwise it draws each image on screen as it tries to match them up.

    will produce cemented.pnm.

    This works both as the article talks about, like a scanner, but it also makes kickass hires panoramic shots from crappy 320x240 video.
    Note: turn off automatic brightness/ auto white balance when taking your video, or it make look a little funny.

    no idea if any of this stuff works under windows. but it works like a charm under linux.
  • OCR software by CAIMLAS (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @02:52PM
  • Umm... by dot_borg (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @02:56PM
  • Why is this new? by iamhassi (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:33PM
  • I love what they're calling a new technology by stephanruby (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:16PM
  • Printer by JoshRoss (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:26PM
    • Re:Printer by JoshRoss (Score:2) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:34PM
  • Bar Code Reader in Cell Phone by BranchingLichen (Score:1) Wednesday February 25 2004, @07:31AM
  • Re:This is nothing new... by Bubblehead (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:39AM
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  • Re:Cannon (Score:4, Insightful)

    by rco3 (198978) on Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:22AM (#8372914)
    (http://www.2005dauphin.org/)
    It's different because it's not just making a bunch of small pics into one big one, it's making a bunch of lo-res pics into a hi-res one. It's also different because it doesn't require YOU to do any alignment or adjustment of your composition.

    In theory, you could take a 320x240 movie of the *whole page* at once, moving around, and when the movie got sufficiently long the software would reconstruct a high-res image of the whole page, as in 300 dpi or some such scanner-type resolution.

    I realize that this is Slashdot, but you might try RTFA. You won't lose karma for that, I promise.
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    • Re:Cannon by jaspervic (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @08:29PM
      • Re:Cannon by rco3 (Score:2) Wednesday February 25 2004, @09:51AM
    • Re:Cannon by JoshRoss (Score:1) Tuesday February 24 2004, @09:39PM
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