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Amazon MP3 Store to Go Global in 2008

Posted by Soulskill on Sunday January 27, @10:17AM
from the and-in-this-corner dept.
Amazon announced in a press release today their plans to sell DRM-free music worldwide through the Amazon MP3 store beginning later this year. This news is being viewed by some as the latest volley in Amazon's digital music sales war with Apple's iTunes. Since Amazon has completed its plans to offer DRM-free music from all four major record labels (most recently, Sony and Warner), the global availability of the MP3s can only be excellent news for customers.

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[+] Warner Music Group Drops DRM for Amazon 167 comments
SirLurksAlot sends us to Ars Technica for an article about the Warner Music Group's decision to allow DRM-free music downloads through Amazon. This reversal of Warner's former position has been underway for some time, and it boosts the number of DRM-free songs available from Amazon to 2.9 million. Quoting: "Warner's announcement says nothing about offering its content through other services such as iTunes, and represents the music industry's attempt to make life a bit more difficult for Apple after all the years in which the company held the keys to music's digital kingdom.
[+] Your Rights Online: Sony Announces DRM-Free Music at Amazon 293 comments
sehlat brings us a New York Times report that Sony has agreed to start selling DRM-free music from Amazon's MP3 store. This comes days after Sony revealed plans for physical MusicPass cards that would allow DRM-free access to a small portion of Sony's library. Now that all four major record labels are on board with Amazon, some are expecting Apple to make moves away from DRM as well. From the NYTimes: "Sony's partnership with Amazon.com also underscores the music industry's gathering effort to nurture an online rival to Apple, which has sold more than three billion songs through its iTunes store. Most music purchased on iTunes can be played only on Apple devices, and Apple insists on selling all single tracks for 99 cents. Amazon, which sells tracks for anywhere from 89 cents to over a dollar, offers the pricing variability the labels want."
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  • It's about time... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TofuMatt (1105351) on Sunday January 27, @10:27AM (#22200192)
    This is what I've been waiting for, seriously. I will be able to buy my music online, and actually own it now. I don't think anything more than "awesome" need be said.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      And you haven't been able to with Apple's DRM-free tracks?
      • Re:It's about time... (Score:5, Insightful)


        Not since iTunes broke Linux compatibility. Count me in as another customer sitting here with a pile of cash waiting them to actually let me buy from them. And more competition in the market is a good thing, anyway.
        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          My question is whether Apple will release a utility to strip the DRM from previously purchased tracks that they now offer DRM free. I haven't heard that this will be the case. I have about a hundred Itunes tracks purchased with it, that will eventually be
          • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

            by Anonymous Coward

            The current iTunes Plus (i.e. DRM-free and higher bitrate) tracks are $1.29, and Apple will upgrade existing tracks that are now available as DRM-free for 30 cents, the difference in price. So Amazon is a much better deal, but if you already have music f

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            How is it cheaper? Usually on a CD there is only 1-3 songs that I really want, with a CD I pay anywhere from $10-20 for that CD with around 15 songs, compare that with $.99 per song and I spend around $1-3 rather then $15, so no its not cheaper. On around
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Hurray. Finally I'm not tied to a certain player anymore.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Actually you hit the nail on the head, there was an article about how DRM free music would mean the deathnell for the music industry. This year alone as short as it has been I have spent more at amazon.com on DRM free music than I have spent on music in th
      • Re: (Score:2)

        I quit downloading music after napster, because it's a pain to find anything that's not in the top 40.

        Now I buy used stuff from Amazon Marketplace, rip, and sell it again. Maybe it's almost as legally dubious as downloading, but to me it's more convenient.
      • Re:It's about time... (Score:5, Informative)

        by Dogtanian (588974) on Sunday January 27, @11:22AM (#22200494) Homepage

        Sweet! Now I'll be able to download all the music you buy off P2P networks for free! Like I'm ever paying copyright companies for digital media files. I'd rather burn my money.
        Disregarding the moral issues on either side of the argument, two reasons I'd pay for music downloads are that
        • Assuming whatever I want is already available, it's often less hassle than tracking down songs via P2P (in rarer cases) and waiting for them to become available from a single uploader, and
        • If it's a known-bitrate transfer from a known existing source, it also saves me wasted time "auditioning" which version to keep from various downloaded copies (some of which are better quality than others)
        OTOH, iTunes isn't "perfect" quality either though. I've had stuff downloaded from them (which I couldn't find on P2P anyway) which had digital "clicks" in it. Actually, I've even had minor digital pops/clicks in quite a few CDs I've bought (they remained even when played back on different players. It's not like it was a recent loudness-compressed let's-get-this-recording-to-the-16-bit-volume-limit release either, I had this problem with the 1994 reissue of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon".). So it's possible that either iTunes had bad error-compensation when ripping from the CD source and/or that a major non-correctable flaw was present on the CD *or* that the CD's master itself was flawed.

        In either case, WTF is going on there? I don't expect digital flaws- even minor ones- on stuff from iTunes, and I certainly don't expect them on my CDs!
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Disregarding the moral issues on either side of the argument, two reasons I'd pay for music downloads are that

          * Assuming whatever I want is already available, it's often less hassle than tracking down songs via P2P (in rarer cases) and waiting for t
            • Re:It's about time... (Score:4, Insightful)

              by ShieldW0lf (601553) on Sunday January 27, @01:43PM (#22201308) Journal
              You're an idiot.

              No, I'm a genius. IQ is over 160.

              If you don't like the MPAA why are you listening to their music?

              Because it's not their property, it's my culture. I don't recognize their claim to it.

              You're inventing crazy reasons to keep on stealing.

              First off, duplicating is not stealing. Stealing is when you take a physical object that is someone elses personal posession. And secondly, my actions are not crazy, they are tactically sound means of working towards my goals.

              And I mean literally crazy, you come off as a paranoid schizophrenic.

              I'm not paranoid. I'm actively attempting to subvert and sabotage the critical infrastructure of my enemies, and they are after me. It's not like I'm the only one. Maybe some day you'll join us. Then we can all afford to sing as one.
  • Why's it tagged that? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mike89 (1006497) on Sunday January 27, @10:31AM (#22200210)
    Why's this tagged "whatcouldpossiblygowrong"?
    • Re:Why's it tagged that? (Score:5, Funny)

      by stormguard2099 (1177733) on Sunday January 27, @11:40AM (#22200604)
      I know what could possibly go wrong, some jackass tags every story with that, thus removing all meaning from it so when the mad scientists put the brain of Hilter into a great white shark no one even thinks of the possible consequences.
      • Re: (Score:2)

        I've seen it around, but with one comment and that already a tag I was kind've surprised. Usually it comes up when someone instructs everyone to do it (using a comment).
  • by Derek Loev (1050412) on Sunday January 27, @10:32AM (#22200226)
    This may be a bit off topic...but:
    Does every single Slashdot article need to be tagged with "What could possibly go wrong?" I mean, seriously, what could possibly go wrong here?
    • by MonsterOfTheLake (880659) on Sunday January 27, @10:40AM (#22200274) Homepage
      Apple could go out of business after iTunes collapses.

      Oh, sorry, you said "what could possibly go wrong." Yeah, nothing really.

      *hides from Apple zealots*
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Actually, that probably would be very bad. With the iTunes store in a strong position the big four have an incentive to give favourable terms to everyone else (no DRM, lower prices, and so on). Without iTunes, the market would be fragmented and no one wo
    • What could possibly go right? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by leehwtsohg (618675) on Sunday January 27, @10:53AM (#22200334)
      What could go wrong? How about:
      Music industry starts selling DRM-free mp3, stopping its decline and saving the RIAA for the next clueless battle.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      well.......

      you can use this service but be warned, global price fixing by the RIAA/IFPI is being utilised denying any credit transactions that originate from a card outside your own territory, just as they fixed it with iTunes and forced apple to impleme
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Tags are the distilled essence of smart ass commentary. Rather than waste time rehashing a tired point, now you can just type "whatcouldpossiblygowrong" and move on. Time saving at its finest!

      It is very fitting that this tag has become the most popul

  • When is it going to happen (Score:3, Insightful)

    by a_nonamiss (743253) on Sunday January 27, @10:35AM (#22200242)
    It's nice to hear about these companies that are going to release DRM-free music, but I have yet to see anything real. It's the kind of thing that makes a nice press announcement, but it seems like they don't really have to do anything. With today's technology and the existing infrastructure, it should take about 15 minutes to get this thing up and running. What's the hold-up? I'm still waiting on my Beatles on iTunes that was announced in early 2007!
    • Re:When is it going to happen (Score:5, Informative)

      by Niten (201835) on Sunday January 27, @10:39AM (#22200268) Homepage

      You are aware that the DRM-free Amazon MP3 store is already up and running, aren't you? I've bought about four albums' worth of music from it since the store launched months ago. The news here is only that Amazon MP3 will be opening internationally.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      With today's technology and the existing infrastructure, it should take about 15 minutes to get this thing up and running.

      I imagine that the hold up isn't on the technology side. I imagine that most of the difficulty is on the legal end.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      I'm still waiting on my Beatles on iTunes that was announced in early 2007!

      I wouldn't worry about it. I have a friend who has a complete Beatles collection on LPs, and from what I've heard, you're not missing much.
      • Re: (Score:2)

        Finally someone else who sees (or hears) through the Beatlemania hype. Thank you for that post.
        • Re: (Score:2)

          Finally someone else who sees (or hears) through the Beatlemania hype. Thank you for that post.

          Yer welcome. ;-)

          The OP's issue is an interesting one, and is illustrative of the many issues concerning on-line distribution of music. That said, I can't help b
  • This is good news since refilling your balance at mp3sparks was getting complicated. Plus you get the added benefit of money actually going to the artists without having to suffer through locked down formats. All players play mp3 nowadays, not all of the
  • Linux support (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ProteusQ (665382) <[proteus71] [at] [gmail.com]> on Sunday January 27, @10:42AM (#22200286) Journal
    Amazon limits the number of tracks you can buy and $$ you can save per download unless you download entire albums using their download software. However, it's only available for Windows and Mac.

    eMusic also requires that you download their application, but they offer a nice GUI-based app for Linux. They even claim that it runs on a 2.2.14 kernel! Their selection isn't as good, and their business model is different (subscription vs. per download), but it's worth taking a look.

    If nothing, email Amazon and ask for a Linux downloader. Mentioning eMusic ought to help get them moving in the right direction.
  • You said it, Chewie! (Score:2, Insightful)

    Being UK based I remember last year I got all excited about some obscure MP3's I found on the amazon.com download section - and then spotted the little (Amazon MP3 Purchases are limited to U.S. customers.) disclaimer. D'oh!
    I guess it won't be there much
      • Re: (Score:2)

        I'd reccommend getting a Yuan account too. And yes, they still know where you come from. Having a dollar account and a Yen account just means you have money in other currencies not tied to the fluctuations of your own homeland's rises and falls. The tra
        • Well, duhh. 4 pounds (about $7.90) to ride the tube between Covent Garden and Leicester Square, a fantastic journey of maybe 35 seconds!

          Amazon has a staff, pays lawyers, runs some ops, etc in the UK.

          They have to charge a lot more.

          Dollars have become Ban
  • Steve Jobs claimed a while back that he didn't like DRM, and had to do it because of the labels. Now we have Amazon selling true MP3s for all four major labels. So where's Steve?

    Wow, could it be that he really wants DRM to lock people into iTunes and the iPod? Nahhhhh, not our Steve! He'd NEVER do that! Maybe he's just not as crafty as Amazon.

    • Re:Can't believe it! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by k2enemy (555744) on Sunday January 27, @11:49AM (#22200656)

      Steve Jobs claimed a while back that he didn't like DRM, and had to do it because of the labels. Now we have Amazon selling true MP3s for all four major labels. So where's Steve?

      Based on what I've read, I think the record companies are trying to avoid a situation where iTunes has a monopsony in the (wholesale) market for digital music. If iTunes is the only reseller of digital music then Apple has a lot of bargaining power in price negotiations and will be able to pay the labels a low price.

      By not allowing Apple to sell tracks DRM free while at the same time allowing stores like Amazon to do so, they allow the other stores to gain market share and catch up a little with Apple. Then no one buyer has the entire market and the record labels can retain some price setting power.
    • Re:Can't believe it! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by corby (56462) on Sunday January 27, @11:54AM (#22200690)
      Now we have Amazon selling true MP3s for all four major labels. So where's Steve?

      Steve is right where he said he would be. For labels such as EMI that have agreed to license DRM-free music to iTunes, Steve is carrying that music under the iTunes Plus label.

      Most of the labels that have started licensing DRM-free music to Amazon are refusing to license it to Apple. This is their big fuck-you to Steve Jobs to try and break the iTunes Store 'monopoly'.

      And unlike everything else the record companies have ever done in the digital space, this has a chance of working. I put off using Amazon for a long time because I didn't want to install their downloader, but once I did I was hooked.

      Amazon is selling music at reasonable prices. Their store is more convenient to use than BitTorrent, and the music is of a consistently higher quality than what I can get off of Pirate Bay.

      Look, ma, I'm paying for all of my music again!
    • Here's his position:
      http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/ [apple.com]

      Thoughts on Music
      Steve Jobs
      February 6, 2007

      ...

      "The third alternative is to abolish DRMs entirely. Imagine a world where every online store sells DRM-free music encoded in open licensable form
  • by RalphBNumbers (655475) on Sunday January 27, @11:03AM (#22200388)
    It's a sales war between Universal/Warner/Sony and Apple, Amazon is just the labels' chosen weapon.

    What would really be good for customers would be if the labels let everyone sell DRM free music, including Apple, and let the consumer decide where they want to buy their music in a real free-market sales war.
  • I've been using the Zune Pass subscription for the past couple of months, and I'll never go back to one-off music purchases ever again.

    For $15/month, I can download all the music I want. If I stop paying, the music will stop working after 3 months. For som
    • Re: (Score:2)

      For $15/month, I can download all the music I want. If I stop paying, the music will stop working after 3 months. For some people that's unacceptable, but for the price of a single CD, I think it's a damn good deal.

      Is this for real? So you have to pay $1
  • Amazon's service is good (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MarkWatson (189759) on Sunday January 27, @12:17PM (#22200812) Homepage
    As a long time iTunes customer, I have started buying from Amazon. With iTunes, I would always backup the music that I bought to an audio CDR, then re-import as MP3 -- Amazon selling MP3s saves me real effort.

    Buying music online is a good deal, if you can back it up and enjoy it over a long time period.
  • by Jeeproxx (1174681) on Sunday January 27, @02:05PM (#22201440)
    I work for the CMRRA (Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency), we are the ones who handle music publishing in Canada. Period. The reality is that this is mostly a move to stimulate sales but not a long term reality. The vast majority of higher selling (charting) product will continued to be delivered with DRM protection. It only stands to reason. Everybody in the music industry realizes that DRM is nothing but a 'speed bump' and not a long term solution to meeting their goals. The reality is, despite the Sony rootkit fiasco, the future will bring either more invasive software at the consumer level or more control at the ISP level. Trust me... I am a not happy about this, I am not impressed with many of the actions of the RIAA and WIPO but this is the reality. You are looking at an entire industry collapsing.... and fast. They are fighting for their very exsistance and loosing. The money is gone. It will very soon be harder and harder for artists to have access to the funds to successfully produce and market their music in the conventional format. Physical distribution will not be consistant... and films are next. You can keep making 400 million dollar movies when you can't make more the 250 million back. It just not sustainable. Things will continue on, however, in a far different model. The problem is that no one can forsee the emerging buisness model and how to transition into this model. Open Source software will replace conventional digital tools for media editing (since the art and beauty of analogue has already died) and do so quite well. Online distribution, which will endup enduring harsh filtering and monitoring. We have brought this on ourselves. I don't agree with ISP filtering/monitoring, root kit technologies, or suing of endusers. I have watched my friends loose their jobs, one after the other for too long. Studios closing left and right, labels laying off staff year after year, great musicians not getting the finances they need because there isn't enough to go around and they haven't got enough "Bling". Last year, for every 32 artist that got signed, only two of those made money, a couple more would break even, and the rest lost money. Record companies are the agencies which provide the funding and marketing resources where conventional banks won't. It all soo sad. I love music. I've invested years of my life and 10's of thousands of dollars on education and equipment. Now I'm back in school at night studying programming and network administration. Perhaps if people took a minute to realize that by not paying for the music they are starving artist, engineers, producers.... people who have worked in the industry for 20 and 30 years are finding themselves at 50 yrs old and having to try and find some sort of job to continue feeding their families. My heart goes out to the 2000+ people who are loosing their jobs with EMI. PLEASE... TAKE A MINUTE TO CONSIDER THE FACTS. Don't let the fat paycheques of the CEO's and ignorant lawsuits of the RIAA blind your eyes to the realities being endured by thousands of people who work hard to make the music you listen to.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'm also in Canada. Instead of offering the age old complaint that musicians need to get paid (with which I don't argue) you need to tell us all how to make sure that that happens in a technologically changing environment. Wishing won't make it so, neith
    • by RedK (112790) on Sunday January 27, @10:43AM (#22200288)
      I shopped a lot at Allofmp3.com and now at their sister site, mp3sparks.com. However, there is no denying that their insane prices were in part due to not giving anything back to the artists/record companies. You can scream all you want about artists not really getting much back from record companies all you want, but 0.01$ is still more than 0.00$.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          I have to give many more times that to scumbag corporations, who (on a lot of the music in question) long ago covered their costs and earned their profits, yet still charge me and the artist a premium for expenses, many of which no longer exist.
          The capitalist free-market system says; "Hi!, Where have you been all your life?"

          What makes you think music corporations should or could work any differently from any other industry? No industry reaches a point where they have "earned their profits". W
    • by DrEldarion (114072) on Sunday January 27, @10:49AM (#22200312)
      It's easy to charge low prices when you don't actually pay the people who make the music.
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        Then why does the RIAA not charge low prices?

        Ooh, burn.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Well, the creators of the music gets LESS than the credit card company per download. A Swedish artist sad in an interview that he got Euro 0.03 ($0.044) per download on itunes (price per dl ~Euro 1). That was not nearly enough to make a living on. To him i
    • by Niten (201835) on Sunday January 27, @11:06AM (#22200410) Homepage

      Will any of them ever match AllOfMp3's prices?

      No, because unlike AllOfMp3 these stores are operating according to U.S. (or similar) law; and more importantly to me, purchases from Amazon MP3, iTunes Plus, et al. result in the artists actually getting paid for their work. (Yes, I know, "the evil record labels don't pay their artists that much anyway, blah blah blah"... but if an artist is in a bad contract, at least it's an arrangement that he or she voluntarily entered into; AllOfMp3, on the other hand, is profiting off these artists' work without any compensation or agreement. If you give a crap about your favorite musicians, you don't buy their stuff from AllOfMp3.)

      Quality rate, obscure bands not signed by one of the big corporations, etc.

      Amazon MP3's quality is good, better than iTunes but not quite on par with iTunes Plus. Tracks are encoded with LAME 3.97 at a high VBR bitrate (~230 kbps or so?). The collection is still a tiny bit spotty, but growing fast. It certainly has a better selection than iTunes Plus does, by a long shot. All things considered, it's an excellent service.

      My biggest pet peeve with Amazon MP3 is that while you can purchase individual songs through the standard Amazon web interface, purchasing whole albums (and thereby receiving the album discount, where applicable) requires the Amazon MP3 Downloader. On the plus side, this program seems well-written, can pause downloads or resume interrupted ones, automatically imports your songs into iTunes or other MP3 players' libraries, and doesn't behave suspiciously. But why should it be necessary? The downloader is currently available for OS X and Windows, and a Linux version is "forthcoming".