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Vista RC1 Build 5728 Publicly Released
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on Sun Sep 24, 2006 06:27 AM
from the new-build-out-the-window dept.
from the new-build-out-the-window dept.
ClausValca writes "Doing some late-night surfing last night and came across a post over at Cybernet News: Limited Time Only: Vista 5728 Available To The Public. Although apparently intended for the TAP and Technical Beta Testers....it is available for download to the public via this Microsoft public download page for Vista 5728. There is a link on that page as well for direct download of the latest 64-bit flavor of that version as well. An Ars Technica post also has some background info on the new release. Techweb is reporting that Microsoft is specifically asking for feedback on this release, so make sure and let them know what you think."
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Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.yafla.com/dforbes/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 27 2005, @10:43AM)
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.yafla.com/dforbes/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 27 2005, @10:43AM)
How does that undermine what I just said? It quite clearly indicates that RC1 was in no way in hell a real RC -- it was a beta. The code diff between RC1 and what actually goes gold with be massive.
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://brasscannon.com/)
(In other news, I have this bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan, for sale cheap. Paypal accepted!)
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://trolltalk.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 11, @07:43PM)
Freezing the API does NOT mean its a release candidate in anyone's universe except Microsofts'.
A release candidate should be what the term implies - something that is actually a candidate for release as the final product, not something that you throw over the wall and hope that it stinks a bit less than the previous attempts.
That they're still beta testing should tell you something about how much their development culture continues to suck.
So, download it early, download it often, and help artificially inflate those "look at the interest" numbers ... just don't install this trojan:
Nice way of getting people to forget that XP already does everything they need, and locking them into having to buy an upgrade at retail prices.
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Saturday October 27, @04:36PM)
That's interesting, considering that Windows XP will let you roll back to the previous operating system.
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.newsique.com/)
Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta (Score:5, Interesting)
Now, the Win95/98/ME line, yeah, those were POS OSs that you had to reinstall every month or so. And I understand Joe-sixpack is more likely to click on random "bad things". But has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, Windows has improved, and that many (but not all) of the problems aren't from windows, but from the layers of shit that people pile on it (Norton, I'm looking directly at you).
Because you haven't used windows since Win98, please stop spewing lines that are no longer true.
How long? (Score:1)
Re:How long? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How long? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://brasscannon.com/)
Had this puppy for a week already and may actually get around to installing it, this time....
Link to 64-bit edition (Score:5, Informative)
(http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~ismail | Last Journal: Thursday December 23 2004, @07:19AM)
Not RC1 (Score:4, Informative)
Direct ISO Download Link (Score:4, Informative)
(http://in2mind.blogspot.com/)
X86 version.
File size: 2622MB
Type: 32-bit
Name: vista_5728.16387.060917-1430_x86fre_client-lrmcfr
Build Number: 5728.16387
Note: Your Beta 2/RC1 product keys will still be valid for this version.
************** From TFA *************
Feedback (Score:5, Funny)
(https://customer.lylix.net/aff.php?aff=006)
Probably a bit too late to ask for POSIX interoperability, eh?
Re:Feedback (Score:5, Insightful)
Ya, considering they have been POSIX compliant since NT was built in 1992...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?F
BTW Vista and Longhorn Server ship with a full BSD *nix subsystem (minus an XServer.)
Nothing new to see here, move along...
Product Key (Score:1)
(http://ssinghi.kreeti.com/)
Re:Product Key (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Tuesday October 17 2006, @12:18AM)
How to get a valid license key (Score:4, Informative)
Plays nice with boot loaders? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://gazonk.org/~eloj/ | Last Journal: Tuesday June 07 2005, @01:18PM)
Are Microsoft still nuking everything in their path, or do they play nice with the MBR now?
I think we're beyond blaming incompetence if they don't play nice...
Re:Plays nice with boot loaders? (Score:4, Informative)
(http://trolltalk.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 11, @07:43PM)
Short answer - it doesn't even play nicely with other versins of windows.
This is their way of getting people to nuke their current XP installs, then having to buy the final version of Vista by July 1st.
"... let them know what you think." (Score:3, Interesting)
Microsoft alienated me with the first commercial release of XP. You couldn't change anything about your computer without calling them for a new authorization number. There were also the rumors that XP was 'calling home' with information about what was on your hard drive. I vowed that XP would never enter my house and never sully my work computer. I switched to Linux. It does everything I need done. Why would I switch.
My wife's computer runs Win98. If it weren't for OpenOffice, she would have to switch to be able to read files that her customers send her. As it is, OpenOffice reads all those files just fine, so she doesn't have to switch either.
Microsoft is going to have trouble selling Vista. They are also having legal trouble in Europe. Their response is to say that the economy will be boosted if everyone switches to Vista. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000097 [linuxjournal.com] They're nothing if not creative. But no thanks anyway Bill.
Change Log (Score:1)
(http://fedora.redhat.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday December 10 2005, @07:16PM)
Re:Change Log (Score:5, Funny)
(http://trolltalk.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 11, @07:43PM)
They did - and they saved it in Word format, and its corrupted. So far, 3 employees have been wounded by flying chairs for suggesting they use OpenOffice to open and re-save it.
VMWare? (Score:2)
(http://o2kewl.net/)
The kind of feedback they're looking for (Score:3, Funny)
Do I really have to download it to tell them (Score:1)
Torrent (Score:2)
(http://www.unitone.ca/)
Has anyone tried downloading by the bittorrent yet?
DRM and OpenGL? (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday February 05 2005, @03:50AM)
Re:DRM and OpenGL? (Score:4, Informative)
As for DRM, well. Nothing in Vista itself is going to prevent you from copying DVD's, software or music or any other such thing. Windows Media files will still be protected of course, and HDCP will HAVE to be built into all HD-DVD/Blu-ray drives and decoders (read: the hardware) for you to watch this material.
The DRM issue with respect to Vista is all mythic. The only true rights taken away from you in Vista compared to XP are in the 64bit (x64) edition, under which, you cannot install unsigned drivers (unless you add an option to the Vista bootloader which isn't that difficult).
Is it really from Microsoft? (Score:2)
Seriously though, why is this not part of the microsoft.com domain?
Better idea (Score:1)
Thank you.
My thoughts on RC1 (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://deepsouthwedding.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday September 23 2006, @09:48PM)
It's still pretty.
Explorer likes to hang when transfering files.
IAC is still annoying, and over done.
If Vista doesn't specifically recognize that you own a file, it's read only. This means you have to either download a file, or have it in your directory. Deleting or moving something on any secondary drives (I have 3 other hard drives) is a serious pain. This means usually manually changing ownership, changing read writes, and then repeating this process a couple of times since it doesn't always save the new settings.
Oh, and google's desktop bar is better than the new-built-in-hard-to-disable M$ desktop bar.
And anyone looking for the nifty 3-d desktop should look elsewhere for something to install on XP. Windows are stacked in slightly more than 2-d space, and you have to click a button to view that. Don't worry, you can use that feature to flip through buttons. What happened to rotating windows with side title bars? Hell, don't ask me. I dunno.
Last, and probably least, the "Ultimate Edition Extras", a new windows update category, doesn't even have a sample download. Ultimate edition just gives you all of those fancy (cough, cough) graphic features I mentioned.
Slashdotted !? (Score:1)
0K
50K
100K
on a 8Mbit/s pipe.
Where's the mirror ??
Or is this the cautious handling by my OpenBSD server to which I download ?
Download information (Score:2)
Using FireFox MS requires you to allow a Java download utility to maintain the download. Prepair for screen resizings.
Looks like Microsoft is using Akamai for distribution, so it should be fast globaly.
Let them know (Score:1)
Gah!! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.klaidas.lt/)
Startup sound can be disabled (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Saturday May 15 2004, @08:33PM)
After much feedback, and many arguments, the Vista startup sound is finally getting a toggle! Yes, you read that right, someone finally yelled loud enough that marketing/upper mgmt realized that users in fact do want to be able to control their own computer!
The regular sound control panel has a new checkbox to control the startup chime as described here: http://blogs.technet.com/windowsvista/archive/200
nvidia bugs still in 5728 (Score:1)
It's a turd sundae (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Doesn't work on my Mac (Score:1)
(http://www.jonharvey.com/)
why do free work for MS? (Score:2)
User feedback is among the most valuable and hard to get pieces of information for a commercial company. Why the hell would you give this to Microsoft for free and then pay for the end product?
If you want to go through the trouble of giving useful feedback on UI matters, give it to the Gnome project: they'll collect your feedback and use it to improve the next version of Gnome, which you can then use for free.
What do I think? (Score:2)
I understand that everything is still in flux right now, but COME ON!!
Install Vista - clean install no upgrades here. 2.8ghz P4 . 1g ram . 250g SATA drive. How much faster do you want? nVidia 6600 PCI-X video card.
Download / install the drivers from nVidia. Install Steam ( steampowered.com ) and try to play DOD / Counter Strike or any of the source games.
Watch in amazement as Vista wigs out
This is a RELEASE CANDIDATE?!?!
Feels more like a Beta1..
Misleading headline: build 5728 is not Vista RC1 (Score:1)
(http://www.fungible.com/)
Re:My experience with Vista (Score:3, Funny)
(http://in2mind.blogspot.com/)
Re:My experience with Vista (Score:5, Insightful)
If you give up that quickly on Windows, an OS that often takes the approach of insulating users from functionality through a very fine-tuned UI aimed for maximum user friendliness, then I hate to think what must have happened when you tried an OS that takes a "more power to the user" ideology, like say, "Linux"?
Step 1: Install Linux
Step 2: Try to compile something
Step 3: It breaks, throw-away Linux in absolute disgust
Step 4: Return to pre-configured Microsoft Bob, where it's safe.
To further add to the absurdity of the previous post, the code you are using is _NOT_ finished. I'm not defending Windows, just preaching common sense. It's quite possible it could have been a bug specific to the users setup.
It's uninformative, ridiculous comments like the former that harm Slashdot, offering a stereotypical Windows bashing with no real merit, contributing nothing.
But the other picture- Borg Gates? (Score:2)
(http://www.ocean7motel.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 07 2007, @07:50AM)
dis microsoft windows, you have a problem with
dis chief architecht, you don't mention at all?
Re:My experience with Vista (Score:1)
Not troll, PPPoE in Vista really doesn't work and I won't use an operating system which can't connect to the internet.
Re:vista sucks and I LIKE windows generally (Score:2)
(http://www.bynumbers.com/)
Re:Is it just me... (Score:1)
Even The Big Blue Brother is beginning acknowledge that "professional" is not synonymous with "assimilated into the machine."
Lighten up and wear wider pinstripes.
KFG
Re:Why on earth should I test Vista?? (Score:2)
As a Windows application developer I appreciate frequent and early looks at the OS so I can build and test my code against it. This is far, far better than getting blindsided by upset user calls when Vista hits the street and my apps all break. So I guess the short answer to your question is, self-preservation. Now, if you are not a Windows application developer then I guess I can understand your sentiment. I suppose it's also safe to assume you are not a systems admin with Windows-based boxes, and you don't support users who *might* end up using Vista. If all of these assumptions are true then you can safely ignore the betas - I don't think MS is really interested in your opinion anyhow if that is the case.
You Never Tried Linux Have You? (Score:2)
(http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home)
Re:Why on earth should I test Vista?? (Score:2)
(http://www.klaidas.lt/)
I, for one, am happy to be able to get something that others will get 6 months later and that will, let's face it, change the computer industry. And not just get it... Get it for free too!
Re:vista sucks and I LIKE windows generally (Score:3, Insightful)
Ok, I think you should at least try it. You are the target audience MS is trying to hit.
I think you will find yourself surprised. Vista is faster than WindowsXP if you have 512mb of RAM. (Yes a step jump from the 128mb XP threshold)
The other thing you will find as you use Vista is the OS doesn't look 'extremely' different, but you find yourself using many of the new features.
Right now going back to XP from Vista (after only running it on my personal system full time for a couple of weeks) is already painful. I am forever missing the quick find abilities, saved searches, and tons of 'little' things that are just more polished and just work for you in Vista.
And going back to speed, when editing large graphics, or even working in CorelDraw or AI on a massive drawing, the speed difference is 10x the difference between Vista and XP or OSX.
The Vista Video Composer is truly top notch and not only will you find your 3D applications flying, but even your older 2D GDI+ applications will perform at amazing levels, as MS is even accelerating basic vector and GDI+ calls through the GPU. This along with the the true Vector level composer in Vista, you will find everything from CorelDraw to AutoCad and even stuff like Photoshop run so much faster on the same hardware, it is a bit surprising at times.
The biggest change for users in usability is the integrated search and the more consistent use of the folder placement and how it operates within the OS, and yes it is more *nix like, but I think that is a good thing.
The search features is not only a search service, but it is a part of the OS at every level. You will find yourself hitting the start button and typing "Donkey" and in 1 second getting a list of every file and every email you have ever used the word "Donkey" in. The search is fast, and integrated throughout to every UI Dialog or folder window. (Once you use Vista, you will see why WinFS is not needed at this point, as they have pulled off the speed and you can already add 'relational' attributes and Tags to all your files, folder and documents.
I would move to Vista for the Video and application performance alone, as I do a lot of graphic design work, and watching CorelDraw repaint a multi-layered drawing and take 5-10secs under XP and paint instantly in Vista is enough of a reason to move to a new OS. (And like I said, this is also true of almost any application that does a lot of drawing to the screen.)
Also if you have a Video Card made in the last 3 years, you won't have to turn off the 'visual' effects, unless they annoy you. There is no performance hit that our techs can even measure between running with Glass on or off.