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Examining the Era of Print-on-Demand
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tonywong writes "Printing on demand is getting cheaper and better every year. The New York Times has this a review of sites that offer simple DTP programs for free to lure potential publishers. The article claims that the print run can be as little as a single copy on demand." From the article: "Blurb.com's design software, which is still in beta testing, comes with a number of templates for different genres like cookbooks, photo collections and poetry books. Once one is chosen, it automatically lays out the page and lets the designer fill in the photographs and text by cutting and pasting. If the designer wants to tweak some details of the template -- say, the position of a page number or a background color -- the changes affect all the pages. The software is markedly easier to use -- although less capable -- than InDesign from Adobe or Quark XPress, professional publishing packages that cost around $700. It is also free because Blurb expects to make money from printing the book."
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No other formats? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.edespot.com/~amackenz/)
Re:No other formats? (Score:4, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 12 2007, @09:41AM)
old school (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.diysearch.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday May 06 2007, @02:45PM)
but alas, i must admit that programs like quark (and now indesign) have made things a bit easier... and well, the whole on-demand publishing like lulu [lulu.com] (and others) have made the DIY publishing cheaper but also opened up "underground" press (aka small-press) to new audiences.
i mean, there was only so much you could do with your by-hand copied zine... sure passing them out at the shows and begging the local record store owners to carry them was great... but this on demand thing is, well... not only do you get the control (creative) but you also can actually (sorta) compete with the "big boys."
Re:old school (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://superrob.blogspot.com/)
For a marketing agency, this allows you to send out personalized sales brochures and other collateral, which can have a massive impact on response rate. Combine something like this with sophisticated data mining, and I shudder to think how eerie some direct mail could get. "Hey Rob, remember how much fun you had on Space Mountain last year? Walt Disney World wants to invite you and your wife Andrea back for another ride ..."
Fair Disclosure: My company, Marketsync [marketsync.com] does Print-on-Demand for marketing departments and agencies through a salesforce.com plug-in called Marketsync On-Demand Marketing [marketsync.com].
Not to be confused with publishing (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://thehousebetween.com/)
Now when someone writes software that will query agents and automatically keep track of responses and requirements for different publishing houses, I'll be interested.
Re:Not to be confused with publishing (Score:5, Insightful)
Mind you, I don't think the fiction market works this way. Many other markets are much less entrenched.
I work for a small publisher that started this way, and I wouldn't call selling 2m+ copies (at $32.95) a "vanity" press.
Like lots of other industries, it's less monolithic than it was 30 years ago.
m-
Re:Not to be confused with publishing (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.candysporks.org/)
You'll excuse me if I find this mentality quite on par with the music and movie industries. I really have little desire to explain myself simply because I think I'd be preaching to the choir. In short, however, the internet I think can make a dent in this mentality if not overcome it. Things haven't matured enough, IMHO, to make a foregone conclusion either way but I thought it was worth pointing out.
Re:Not to be confused with publishing (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.recompile.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday April 20 2004, @04:10PM)
No... people go to POD/vanity publishers to meet a specific need.
A few examples:
A good number of universities require students to submit a bound copy of their dissertation (meeting ALA standards). POD makes this easy and affordable.
Some books are of local interest only, and need very short print runs -- A local historical society may want to publish book, series of books, or books for special events (i.e. for a towns 150th aniversary).
A local museaum may want to publish a book related to a particular exhibit. (Not all museaums are big -- in Greenville, PA [Pop. ~6,500] there are *two* museaums.)
An individual may want to compile a geneology into book form to hand out at a family get-together.
A new bride might want to compile wedding photos and stories into book for friends and family.
A photographer might want a portfolio he could pass out to clients.
A teacher may want to publish a text specific to a class s/he teaches or a collection of lecture notes and course materials.
I could go on. The point here is the POD business is far larger than the yahoo who thinks their poetry collection is going to be a best seller or their sci-fi/fantasy novel is going to spark a phenomenon.
Re:Not to be confused with readability (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Sunday May 20, @06:41AM)
Publishing-on-demand has the potential to solve two problems in the publishing industry: meeting the relatively low demand for out-of-print books and inventory. The first problem is that books go out-of-print because low demand makes traditional volume publishing economically infeasible. But, a publisher that is able to economically meet that demand has an additional source of revenue. Inventory, the second problem, is the perpetual beast of industry -- it drains cash flow, consumes storage space and increases the cost of failure. There's nothing like making 100,000 of something, only to have it sit on store shelves for 2 months before the stores pull it from the shelves. Publishing on demand avoids that risk.
cheaper -yes better - no (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://foobsr.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday March 26 2005, @05:24PM)
There was a German transcription for DTP - "Dumme Treiben Plötsinn" (along the lines of "Dumbheads Try Printing"). So it is more likely that language and readability of printed matter will decline/degrade even more. But that does not matter, cause technical quality (10^y dpi, full colour) will be state-of-the-art.
CC.
Experience with Lulu.com (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Experience with Lulu.com (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.lightandmatter.com/)
My experience with lulu has been a little more mixed. I have some free-information textbooks that I sell in print. (Even though they're free to download, sometimes it's nice to have a real printed, bound copy.) I had been buying them in batches of about 500 from a local guy, storing them in a closet, and selling them to schools and individuals. The problem was, it was just an incredibly inefficient way to do business. Recently, I've been experimenting with lulu. The good news is that they're incredibly efficient, and can produce a single book at about the same unit price as I'd been getting from a traditional printing process (or maybe just a little more). When I get an individual retail order, they take care of it. I've canceled my credit card processing account (which was a major pain to have). No more trips to the post office to mail books. Most importantly, I no longer have to keep ~$10,000 worth of inventory in a closet.
There have been some problems, though:
Software may be good... (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.dragonswest.com/ | Last Journal: Monday November 05, @07:35PM)
The software may be good, but output is still another matter. Print has been making great strides in resolution, but laser copy has a tendency to stick to vinyl binders and inkjet runs when wetted.
i'd like a tiny little 4 colour offset press, please.
As a designer... (Score:5, Insightful)
Just like home DVD templates, and all sorts of stuff like that, it'll be great for Billy and Sunshine to print the grandparents a copy of "Baby's First Shit".
See, the thing that software like this can't compensate for is people who can't recognize and don't understand what makes a project work. What makes it readable. What makes it attractive against all the other competition sitting on the shelf at Borders (or Amazon for that matter).
We're talking about near-subliminal things that create an impression of quality and expertise. Sure, time can be put in creating an amazing template that has some of these qualities, but then what do you have? A bunch of projects that look the same, and lack any soul of their own. Look at most of the template-built blogs out there. Boring.
I've done 4 books this year so far, and I average 8-9/year, so I feel comfortable evaluating this.
m-
Making a hardcopy is not the bottleneck (Score:1, Insightful)
LOL! MY POST IS SWEET!
All due to better printers? (Score:2)
(http://www.candysporks.org/)
The article is severly lacking in juicy technical details but if you had a printer that would not only print the pages but bind it and put a dust jacket on it then the difference between printing 10,000 different books and 10,000 copies of one book is zero.
That's my hunch. The easier and faster printers become to do this sort of thing, the cheaper DIY printing will become. Anyone with actual technical knowledge about the printers behind the scenes care to chime in?
Would this not be the step beyond assembly line production? You can completely customize the output without sacrificing the ability to make duplicates. Next step: rapid prototyping [wikipedia.org] of 3-D objects done in similar high-volume custom jobs.
Why not Latex+templates? (Score:1)
Re:Why not Latex+templates? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.spectralhorse.com/)
LaTex has had a "book" template for years, and true to its purpose as "type-setting sofware" (created by Donald Knuth at Stanford), it creates an absoutely picture perfect document with chapter headings, and eye-pleasing margins and hyphenation. This is all done automatically according to the principles of typography printers have been using for hundreds of years (though of course they can be manually over-riden). All that is required is that you learn a few html-like mark-up commands to format your text.
I've printed one novel with lulu.com and LaTex, and the inner text was easily as good as hard-cover books from the 50s and 60s (which I consider kind of a golden age of printing). The cover though does require some graphic design skill , as I think a professional designer noted above (though lulu.com does have a gallery of about 50 stock covers you can use).
Also, lulu.com was started by Bob Young, founder of Red Hat Linux, because of the terrible experience he had publishing a book through conventional means. I believe lulu.com runs on FOSS software.
Re:Why not Latex+templates? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.lightandmatter.com/)
I think this is incorrect. Many people (including me) have had unpredictable problems with producing books from pdf files output by tex or pdftex. For people using dvi-flavored tex, the standard advice on the lulu forums seems to be to upload the postscript file, and then lulu's server will run it through Adobe Distiller before they send it to their subcontractors, who produce the book using proprietary RIPs. There may be a lot of OSS running on lulu's servers, but it's not all OSS, and proprietary software is definitely involved at various steps in the process.
Printing-schmrinting... (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/~GillBates0 | Last Journal: Tuesday July 10, @04:36PM)
When we wanted to write something, we had to do it all by hand. All we had to write on was a good old-fashioned hillside and our trusty hammer to write it with.
No sirree, none of these childish "publishing packages" for us. We used to trudge up in the hills all day long to find a good spot to scribble on, and we loved it!
Print on Demand? (Score:1)
Great for special occasions (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.xpriori.com/ | Last Journal: Friday June 18 2004, @04:18PM)
Print On Demand Isn't Just For Authors (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.prunejuice.net/)
lulu rules (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://thepeckfamily.us/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 11, @09:02PM)
you don't have to worry any more about getting ripped off. write your great american novel, put together your great coffee table book, whatever you want-- and put it out there. lulu keeps on going but i really thought by now it would be much bigger than it is.
Not for you... (Score:4, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday January 30 2002, @03:29AM)
Lulu is cool, but marketing is the key problem (Score:2, Insightful)
I've said it time and again: Your best idea, magnificently executed is the smallest part of a successful product.
It's easy to do a great print-on-demand title [howtoshowyouknow.com] (shameless book plug...), and Lulu does a great job of producing the books, guiding you through getting you in the distribution chain.
But then you have to market, market, market. The books, calendars, etc. that sell best are those that:
Other than that, it's a long slow slog to make a buck.
Maybe try posting on Slashdot to get some attention!
The ultimate DRM (Score:2)
(http://www.monash.com/blogs.html)
Better? Yeah. Cheaper? For the publisher, maybe (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.unity08.com/)
But will this mean a significant decrease in already overpriced college textbooks? Not a chance.
POD not just for books (Score:1)
The end of "out of print"? (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.berylliumsphere.com/security_mentor | Last Journal: Wednesday January 31 2007, @09:13PM)
In such a world, we could try to pass legislation under which refusing to sell a book on a POD basis meant forfeiting the copyright.
In today's world things like "Lord of Light" and the Lensman series have gone out of print, and that is just plain wrong.
Since we're on the subject... not so shiny writing (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.iki.fi/wwwwolf/)
Writer Beware [sfwa.org]'s blog linked recently to "Opening paragraphs of recent PODs that yielded an abbreviated read [blogspot.com]".
...all this makes me wonder why there's no Emergency Editor Squad (operating under the Language Police). =)
Customized prints (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Monday September 12 2005, @08:15AM)
What exactly is publishing? (Score:1)
will any of these print public domain works? (Score:2)
I think there is a market for custom-designed editions of classic, public-domain works. I have reasonably-sized India-paper editions of Blake and Shakespeare, but they're long out of print, relatively expensive, and I can't easily replace them if they get damaged, so I'm hesitant to use them as casually as I would if I could just order another copy for $40 or so.
UK POD recommendations? (Score:2)
(http://pietersz.co.uk/ | Last Journal: Wednesday May 04 2005, @05:22AM)
However, most of the comments I have found on publishers are very much from a US viewpoint. My target market is mostly UK. How good are the publisher's UK distribution. lulu.com looks good and they distribute globally - does anyone have experience of them?
Vanity publishing for suckers (Score:2)
There may be a limited number of instances where you might want to use them, but I can't think of many. Perhaps a highly technical book with a limited audience, but then you're going make a pittance from your sales since you can't even set the price of your book. The worth of your book is dictated by the amount of paper it uses, not the words. Certainly no mainstream author would ever want to use the service unless they struck a deal with the POD service outside of the scales that the other schmucks get.
There is a lot of detailed info from an author's perspective about POD here [sfwa.org].
Great for pirated books! (Score:2)
(http://zlogic.da.ru/)
MediaWiki books (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://tecfa.unige.ch/tecfa-people/schneider.html)
Now, for MediaWikis there is a sort of procedure [wikimedia.org]. The German Wikipedia community seems to have the best experience so far and some reader really have been published in paper form.
WikiReader Handbuch [wikipedia.org] and a Magnus' magic MediaWiki-to-XML-to-stuff converter [wikimedia.de]
Btw there is also the idea that one could some day directly produce PDF from Wiki. A script for print on demand is on source forge [sourceforge.net].
Maybe a
Piers Anthony (Score:1)
Re:rtfa, not what I'd hoped for (Score:1)
Actually POD is not a synonym for vanity publisher. POD is a printing process and nothing more. I own an extremely small publishing company, with only one title so far, and my book is printed by the POD method. I obtained a business license, purchased my own ISBN numbers, wrote the book, typeset it, designed the cover, and submitted the files to the printer/distributor. They print and distribute the book through Ingram, and pay me once a month. My book is available through Amazon, B&N, Powells, etc., and at brick-and-mortar stores by special order. The list price of the book is $41 and was set by me. I don't have any control over the actual selling price though; I've seen it offered for prices ranging from $25 to $80.