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Google's New Calendar CL2
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CowboyNeal
on Fri Mar 10, 2006 01:11 AM
from the ajax-in-action dept.
from the ajax-in-action dept.
pvt_medic writes "Google is apparently working on its own calendar (CL2) program to integrate with Gmail. The closed beta is ongoing with about 200 participants - people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
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Wild Guess (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.cacrew.com/)
The original host appears to be down (Score:5, Informative)
(http://jaduncan.net/)
Re:Too much stuff (Score:5, Insightful)
What web site do you use for search, by the way?
Re:Too much stuff (Score:5, Interesting)
Some of this stuff requires fairly complicated techniques from the realm of research.
Need an example. Get the calendar to sufficiently put a short summary of everything that's going on in its cells by extracting that data from your email.
Re:Too much stuff (Score:5, Informative)
(http://stevesramblings.com/)
Google Talk is a full Jabber app, but with voice added as well. XMPP alone should increase its rankings as a good app.
The interface is clean, simple, uncluttered and very straight forward and easy to use. The integration with Gmail is far and away the best Web conversion I have ever seen of any IM client. MSN Webmessenger and the web version of Yahoo! Messenger are no where near close to being as good as the Gmail Chat version of Google Talk.
Then consider that any Jabber network can chat with people using Google Talk. If you are connected via jabber.org (or any other Jabber network) you can chat with gtalk users just by adding them to your list. Don't need to use any extra protocols or plugins.
Then consider the future proofing of using XMPP over creating yet another IM protocol. XMPP is exceptionally modular and the clients talk to the servers in exactly the same language that the servers talk to each other in. So adding new services/features on the server side won't always require a client upgrade. Not to mention that XMPP is unburdened by patent issues and the license is pretty damn good by most people's opinion.
Also consider connecting with the other networks. Google will be able to easily implement the shared connection with AOL simply because all thats required is a plugin on the server side. The client wouldn't need to be upgraded. If in future MSN and Yahoo! decide to stop trying to hedge their share of the IM pie, communication with their networks would also be exceptionally easy.
Jabber has a huge following in the corporate environment. Businesses like it because they can control it to meet their own policies. This is also especially true of financial organisations. Now those organisations can extend their network to chat with Google Talk connected clients/partners/associates without having to give up that control internally.
Google Talk is a fantastic step in the right direction and the fact that Google even donated libjingle to the Jabber community as a whole means that everyone has gotten something beneficial out of it. I don't doubt Google will offer more in the future too.
And none of this mentions the fact that even though Google is very much an advertising company, there is no advertising at all in the Google Talk client. Not even Microsoft, AOL or Yahoo! can make that claim. They're not even primarily advertising companies in the way Google is.
Google Talk is more than just a simple or bland client. I gave up using all others when it was released simply because of how clean the interface is. I don't need graphical smilies or useless animations in my chats. They don't convey anything I cant achieve with old school text emoticons in the first place.
I logged in to MSN Messenger the other day for the first time in a long while. I wanted to send a message to my cousin in a different city who doesn't use Gmail. I was absolutely taken back by how cluttered the interface is. So many features of no value at all. Many of which can't even be turned off. Not to mention how bulky the interface just 'felt'. It was like going from a sports car back to a family sedan.
No thanks. I'll take Google Talk over any other vendor client on the market today. I even prefer it over the old favourites like GAIM and its like.
Security? We've heard of it... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Security? We've heard of it... (Score:5, Interesting)
Hope you don't work at google, solomanj
Re:Security? We've heard of it... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.krillrblog.com/)
You should be banned.
Tinfoil Hat On-Check (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://alaska-freegold.com/)
You're assuming that someone from google didn't leak it.
It's been said that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Making something 'secret' only adds to the interest.
Did Earth Detox Cause Mass Extinctions 65 Million Years Ago? [suvalleynews.com]
How long? (Score:5, Funny)
(http://offthegrid.1337hax0r.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday October 18 2006, @12:56PM)
Re:How long? (Score:5, Funny)
[x]Meth Lab [ ]Prostitutes
[ ]Jaywalking [x]Gunplay
[x]Laundering [x]Bribery
Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://rtfm.insomnia.org/~qg/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 16 2005, @07:11AM)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
In a perfect (or even reasonably sane) world, all platforms and programs would freely exchange XML calendar records. But who am I kidding? That would be too easy. In my world, a PocketPC can't even reliably synchronize calendar information with Outlook.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Finally there is (at least in theory) an answer: CalDAV [webdav.org]. It's big and complex, but there seems to be some real progress in implementing it, just take a look at the interoperability testing events/reports.
Then again, you mentioned Outlook... Just forget everything I said.
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
And you can always "upgrade" your pda to Linux
Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://jlarocco.com/)
Why XML? vCal is already a standardized calendar format that works with Outlook, Mozilla Sunfire, and many others. It's not a buzzword like XML, but other than that, it usually works well.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Interesting)
Select your classes from a schedule and have each period from now until the end of the year added for you. If the Prof gets sick, your calendar is updated automatically. Subscribe to your local concert club's schedule and see who's coming. Mark a show you're interested on and get automated notice when it's postponed.
Add some classification and filtering (which GMail is already well known for) and now you can just click the "Entertainment" tab and see all the movies, concerts, shows, book signings, lectures, plays, etc going on in the upcoming week.
This could be really cool.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Tuesday April 12 2005, @11:12PM)
Re:Why? (Score:4, Funny)
(http://marshonsmacs.blogspot.com/)
The same with a calender. I don't use
I do use my phone's calander, but more as a viewer than, data entry (if god had meant us to use a phone for data entry he would have given us 9 thumbs). If I do have to create an entry whilst I'm out, being able to use a web interface to polish it makes a lot of sense.
Why I love the internet. (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.loconet.ca/)
"people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
I love the internet.
The great mysteries of Google. (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.themindofmatthew.com/ | Last Journal: Friday March 10 2006, @06:16PM)
Anyway, what I really find amazing is Google's ability to find and promote those technologies that we would never have heard of. For example, Picasa and Google Earth. I played with Google' Earths previous self (KH) but I didn't want to pay $30 or whatever they were charging... and I would have passed Picasa off as yet another cheap knock-off.
I'm not saying that these are great programs in anyway, but they sure are great for free stuff... and that really amazes me -- Google really does have an aptitude for providing quality "free" software.
Matt Wong
http://www.themindofmatthew.com [themindofmatthew.com]
Could be handy (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://not.a.valid.url.com/ | Last Journal: Monday October 02 2006, @07:51PM)
Execute Only? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: Thursday March 31 2005, @01:48PM)
Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.skorchedearth.com/)
Groupware BAD, Calendars USEFUL (Score:5, Informative)
With their talents and GMail's strengths, it looks like they're ready to come out with just what JMZ is proposing. Which may make Hula [hula-project.org] dead in the water, but we'll just have to wait and see...
Personal Security (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Saturday February 25 2006, @11:02PM)
Whatever happened to the popular Slashdot meme: Don't access [Online Service that requires a password] from public places?
About the only places I would consider 'secure' are home, work, or a friend's house. And I wouldn't be so sure about the friend's house, because some of my friends are sneaky bastards like that.
Taking the Calendar away from a fixed computer, or appt. book or laptop/pda seems like it'll encourage people to check their schedule everywhere. Because, if the point is not to check it anywhere, then why not keep your schedule with you? Home ---> work doesn't seem very troublesome to me.
Re:Personal Security (Score:4, Interesting)
Google, are you listening?
BlackBerry (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.jeffreysharp.org/)
Anyone else here think that Google should throw some cash at RIM to get CL2 and GMail doing full wireless sync with BlackBerries? I would gladly pay money for that feature.
Offtopic (but not...) (Score:4, Informative)
Why a new calendar? (Score:5, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Ironically, we wouldn't have had to deal with all of these end time religious types (who decided to ignore the difference between the two) today, since their end of the world prophecies would have been scheduled for at least a few hundred years from now, rather than based on the year 2000.
Missing Mars due to a glitch in converting imperial to metric is one thing, destroying the Earth to speed up various religious prophecies due to a glitch in calendar systems is another.
cool (Score:5, Insightful)
URL (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.degraeve.com/)
"Sign in to Google CL2 with your Google Account"
Re:URL (Score:5, Funny)
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:4kukc10YIpwJ:
Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.metapenguin.org/)
Remember the quote, "We're moving to a Google that knows more about you" ? You'd better.
Re:Awesome! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://joshi.tk/)
Sweet (Score:3, Informative)
(Last Journal: Tuesday June 27 2006, @03:46AM)
Wow, too late, seems that they are offering ICAL format :-))
manage myself? (Score:2, Funny)
Hmm... (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://jordanthoms.no-ip.org/)
What AJAX library does Google use? (Score:3, Informative)
(http://wyoguide.sf.net/)
I'm starting to use the Dojo toolkit (http://dojotoolkit.org/ [dojotoolkit.org]) which might become the top free AJAX library. See my first easy samples "tree?.html" at (http://wyoguide.sf.net/test/ [sf.net].
O. Wyss
Re:What AJAX library does Google use? (Score:5, Informative)
What If... (Score:1)
On the up (Score:5, Funny)
FINALLY! (Score:1)
(http://www.bushidohacks.com/ | Last Journal: Friday November 02, @02:44PM)
A Dream: an interactive public calendar (Score:3, Interesting)
- show my schedule to the public
- allow me to choose which calendar events I have posted are (in)visible, and with or without description (since I don't - necessarily want everyone to know _what I'm doing then. just that i'm busy.)
- allow people to select a time range from the calendar and "apply" for that range of my time
- have me emailed/IMd/otherwise contacted when such an application occurs so I can confirm/reject it
- then have them notified of the acceptance/rejection.
I have a pretty busy and variable schedule. It would be nice for me to have my calendar available to me at all times. And to let people figure out what time suits both of us without having to trust that neither of us are forgetting anything.
Does such a calendar exist?
*Note: feel free to steal this idea. i know i'm not going to develop it...
Screenshots? (Score:1)
(http://phoenix-network.org/ | Last Journal: Friday March 10 2006, @07:38AM)
It's about time (Score:4, Insightful)
And now it turns out they're working on it.
And just a few months ago, I was hoping that Google would make an Israel version of Google News - and that came out on Tuesday, and looks great.
How often does it happen that a company consistently puts out programs and services that you'd wanted to use before they made them?
SyncML please!!! (Score:5, Interesting)
List of devices: https://www.mobical.net/mobical/phonesetup/ [mobical.net]
What use is an online calendar if it doesn't support online synchronisation?
I know that Gmail has ignored the wonderful imap standard, so I'm not entirely cnvinced they won't ignore this one.
So: Please Google, don't be evil, and use the open SyncML standard
X.
Discussion (Score:2, Interesting)
The Open Sourced version is a little hectic to setup as it does not contain an administrative backend, so most of of the work is done through the command line... which is a small price to pay if you compare what is costs for MS Exchange. A Demo could be located here http://www.openexchange.com/EN/product/onlinedemo
Plugins for OUTLOOK are available, seamless intergration.
Google + Federal Gubbermint (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.plkr.org/)
Does this mean that now, when Google is forced to bend to the pressure of the Current Administration through some laws that will no-doubt be passed to ensure compliance, that the Gubbermint will now be able to see where every person is at any given time, as well as what email they're sending, to whom, and what web searches they're using?
Oh wait, don't use Google, use Yahoo! to search, or AOL, or MSN... Riiiight, the .gov will just aggregate those search results (that they've already secured access to) through a real-time query and figure out exactly WHERE you sent that email or did that search from, then cross-reference that with your calendar, and figure out exactly what you were doing at the time.
As long as there are ridiculous draconian laws that allow .gov to demand logs and other details from providers, there can be no anonymity. At least so far, my provider is Pro-Privacy, and "Gets It(tm)". It pays to go with one of the little guys sometimes.
Sweet!! (Score:1)
I like 30boxes, but google would be cooler (Score:2)
I really like some of the new online calendar projects out there. They have a nice slick interfaces and allow you to share events with others, create personal rss-feeds, and there are hacks for convienent bookmarklets on browser for event entry.
The one I am using now is new and is called 30boxes.com. Very nice interface, very good features. However, if google implememented something similar, I would switch to google. They are more likely to continue to exist in the forseeable future and that helps me to put more trust investment into a calendar run by them.
Return of the Thin Client? (Score:2)
(http://www.holocronology.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday June 30 2005, @05:04PM)
Gdrive
Gcalendar
Gdesktop
Gword (word processor)
Gsheet (spreadsheet)
Gbase
Gthis
Gthat
Brings us to the online version of the majorty of business and home desktops. Only now online and available wherever you are.
Scary Cool!
HisSQL server has gone away :)) (Score:2)
(http://purl.org/hritcu/homepage)
Outlooks Nicest Feature (Score:2)
(http://shanem.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 05, @09:12PM)
Social Networking (Score:1)
(http://www.illuminagraphic.com)
Yahoo... (Score:2)
(http://developers.sl...dMcMan/journal/33834 | Last Journal: Sunday May 18 2003, @10:16PM)
My prophecy! (Score:1)
(http://thoughtfix.com/)
Google Life [blogspot.com]
It's going to happen. I'm interested in WHEN.
leaked my a$$ (Score:2)
(http://s87365085.onlinehome.us/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 28 2003, @04:22PM)
Very exciting! (Score:1)
Re:yippeee (Score:1, Interesting)
yep and with the aquisition of that Web Office compagny the are going to buid one hell of a office suite.(Can't remeber the name right now) This looks like a all out assault at Microsoft. I like it. Google has the power to fight Microsoft on this one. Only thing is I don't know how I would like all my personal and work stuff to be hosted on a remote machine. I guess Google servers a little more secure than my personal computer. But hey I really wonder how long it will take before corporate espionage stories come out of this.
Nic======
Homepage [nickassis.net]
blog [nickassis.net]
Re:yippeee (Score:1)
(http://jordanthoms.no-ip.org/)
And yet (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Friday December 01 2006, @10:51AM)
- Their search engine is superior.
- gmail was the first with Gig storage; It also has the superior interface.
- Maps is killing mapquest and microsoft's stuff. Mapquest has been dieing for a bit, but over the last couple of years it has been put into the ground.
- Gtalk is so so. Nothing inovative, other than using jabber (the first that talks to all the others).
And now they bought Writely.Dollar for Dollar, I would expect good things from their calendar.
Re:mmm sleepy about google (Score:2, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday January 05 2006, @11:02AM)