Cell Phone with Camera = Scanner
Posted by
CmdrTaco
on Tue Feb 24, 2004 08:20 AM
from the thats-a-clever-idea dept.
from the thats-a-clever-idea dept.
An anonymous reader writes "TechJapan has posted a translation of an Impress Watch Article regarding a new technology developed by NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology, that lets people use their cellular phones with cameras as scanners. It says all you have to do is move your phone over the surface of the piece of paper while recording a movie, and the technology (some sort of software I presume) will construct a high resolution image from the individual frames of the video.
Here is the original (Japanese) NEC press release." I'd love to see before and afters to see how well this works.
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that's great but... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.anreabhloid.org/)
Re:that's great but... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:that's great but... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://dandyman.us/)
Re:that's great but... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://ck-gunslinger.deviantart.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @01:17PM)
I seriously doubt that you are *overpaying* for features.
Compare the situation to PC hard drives: You can get a 120GB HD for something like $80. That's like $0.67/GB. By that logic, if you only wanted a new 10GB HD, you should be able to get one for $7, right? But you can't. There's about a $30-35 minimum outlay for a harddrive. Once manufacturers have the basics in place, adding extra/bigger platters in almost *free.*
Near about the same thing with phones. You can probably get a barebones, does nothing but make calls and store numbers cell phone for about $75. But since all the electronic components are already there, they can easily add in a gazillion sotware features for very little $$ and charge $100 for it, which they vast majority of people will pay for.
Re:And I wonder when... (Score:5, Funny)
Ocr? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.davidglover.org/)
Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ocr? (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not kidding - there are Japanese OCR apps, but the accuracy is way below English OCR unless you're using a really good page image.
Re:Ocr? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://dexplor.com/)
In Japanese there are fewer symbols per word, many more symbols to choose from, and symbols that contain much more detail.
So I would think OCR in Japanese would be many times more difficult than OCR in english.
Finally, you now have a phone that is only useful for scanning Japanese. If it acted like a real scanner then it would be useful for any language.
Dan East
Old tech (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.slashdot.org/~lukewarmfusion/journal/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 02 2005, @02:49PM)
This is probably just a combination of that technology (which never took off here) and the cell phone feature craze.
Here's the text of the article (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Monday April 07 2003, @07:39AM)
NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology have devloped technology which uses movie recordings to produce high quality images, on par with those of a scanner. This technology will be aimed atcellular phones and video cameras.
The technique involves recording a part of the subject to a movie, while moving the camera; the "Mosaicing Technology" analyzes the moving image and estimates the three-dimensional position of the subject, and under the supervision of the "Ultra Resolution Technology," the joining points of the image are deleted, thereby optimizing it so that even low resolution cameras can produce scanner like output. In other words, even cellular phones and video cameras can produce high quality images.
Up until now, there were certain cameras that contained equipment to turn low quality images into high quality ones, but this technology marks the first time that this sort of technique can be accomplished with existing equipment. For example, a high quality image can be produced of an A4 size sheet of paper from video cameras currently on the market.
Inspired by:
http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/article/news_
News Release:
http://www.nec.co.jp/press/ja/0402/2303
Re:Here's the text of the article (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Monday April 07 2003, @07:39AM)
Re:Here's the text of the article (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.noiraude.net/)
My brain compensated this by applying a continous eye movment (nystagmus). This allow my brain to get several low resolution moving pictures and be able to compute the missing sharpness and details.
Many born visually impaired have this nystagmus as some compensation.
I'am glad this become a mathematically and scientifically analyzed process. This is great it get some practical use. This remind me of the pictur analysis and filtering applyed to Hubble when it was known is main mirror could not focus correctly.
In related news (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.musecube.com/l0ungeb0y/ | Last Journal: Monday February 09 2004, @06:38PM)
One way or the other it's coming. (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday April 04 2003, @12:49AM)
And this is where things get interesting because fair use permits compies of material in the library for research. But if enough students scan journals at high resolution and then organize and exchange them through the Net, there will be an enormous levelling of the academic playing field. That is a time I look forward to with eager anticipation.
Virtual Wide Angle Lenses? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.heitelan.nl/create.php?card_id=203)
Stitching multiple images automatically is nothing new but is CPU intensive. So Moore's law will take care of that.
Problem before? (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.google.com/)
Old news (Score:3, Funny)
Security Alert! (Score:5, Interesting)
Take care!
Erick
VideoBrush Whiteboard (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://dreamlayers.blogspot.com/)
This software is from the mid to late 90s and unfortunately not available anymore. iPIX purchased the company and discontinued all of its products. There are a few links to buy it but they say it's unavailable and I haven't ever been able to find it on file sharing.
Another interesting program they had is VideoBrush Panorama. It is can only stich vertical and horizontal pans (don't even try zig-zag). It's pretty cool to be able to get panoramas from video pans, and the software is very easy to use. There is no need for a tripod. You can get an evaluation copy here [www.bdp.it]. This [66.98.132.48] and a resource editor might come in handy if you want to use it.
Old handheld scanners... (Score:3, Informative)
I can see why people might want to do this (panoramic photos suddenly springs to mind...), and if I hadn't been surprised by the uptake in camera phones, I might be jumping on the Slashdot bandwagon of "Who'll use it? I want a phone that only makes phone calls! I hate cell phones!!", but camera phones have *seriously* caught on, certainly here in the UK.
DoD Security Problems? (Score:3, Interesting)
Imagine if they freaked out over 1Mega Pix cameras because they could take FUZZY pictures of classified docs - This kind of technology will send the DoD over the edge. As it is right now Cell Phones with cameras are prohibited in all classified environments (at least byt the NAVY that I know of).
A Cell Phone with this kind ouf tech could be banned from the ENTIRE base/post/shipyard etc. One of the things that the drill into your brain in the service is that over time a bunch of little bits of unclassigied data can be made into a very informative report that borders on the classified.
Just my 3MegaPix Worth
Look at Steve Mann's Video Orbits (Score:3, Informative)
(http://barrapunto.com/)
You can even get the code from sourceforge [sourceforge.net], although now he seems more interested in his studies into what he calls "Comparametric Toolkit [sourceforge.net]", which seems to mix Video Orbits with software based on the Wyckoff principle [wearcam.org] (how to get high dynamic range pictures from one underexposed pic and one overexposed pic, for those who don't RTFL).
I suppose the amount of processing power in those phonecams must be insane, or maybe the algorithm they use is more generic, but it is good to know all this Moore's Law horsepower applied towards useful stuff, not just Laracroftish games (ducks).
Finally, it is worth of note that, although Mann's software is now GPL (I don't recall it being Free, or even released, last time I checked three years ago), at least one of the algoritms is under US Patent5,706,416 [uspto.gov], which of course is not nice, unless he plans to license it free of charge for GPL software.
In Other News... (Score:3, Funny)
(Last Journal: Friday November 30, @03:32PM)
*ducks*
So now we know how the tricorder will involve (Score:5, Funny)
That still left the question how the tricorder came into being. Did someone sit down one day and say to himself, "I am going to build myself a tricorder?" That just doesn't seem very likely to me.
But now I finally figured that out too. The tricorder will evolve from the mobile phone! Every year you can see how more and more sensor functionality is added, while the physical size of the phone is getting smaller and smaller. First they could just acquire audio signals. Then came video signals. Soon it will be able to monitor your heartrate, body temperature, and various other vital signs, and maybe even automatically call 911 if you get into trouble. Sensors for electricity, magnetism, seismic waves, spectral analysis, alien energy, and other things will invariably follow, driven as they are by our lust for gadgets, useless functionality, and the latest and greatest. Meanwhile rest assured that ever-increasing software capabilities will provide the ability to make rudimentary medical diagnosis, do chemical analysis, and contain drivers for every alien Bluetooth-enabled device in a thousand lightyears.
While we are at it, you can rest assured that the very moment someone develops a universal translator, it will be embedded in a mobile phone.
So there we have it: the tricorder in a small, handy package. There are only two downsides that I can see: if we are to believe Star Trek, it will at some point lose its communication functionality (Kirk was always using a separate communicator), and based on current trends the battery life may not exceed 2-3 minutes...
ALE does this and is GPL (Score:3, Interesting)
ALE [dyndns.org] is an open source tool that does this nicely. It is normally intended for turning a large number of images of the same thing into one higher quality image, but when you use the --follow and --extend flags. it can turn a sequence of images from a video into a single larger image.
To quote from their site: ALE is a free software program that renders high-fidelity images of real scenes by aligning and combining many similar images from a camera or scanner. The correct similarity between images is roughly that achieved by a somewhat unsteady hand holding a camera.
Something similar exists for Apple's iSight (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday January 07 2003, @05:53PM)
http://www.chiltonwebb.com/iStill/ [chiltonwebb.com]
In related news... (Score:3, Funny)
(Last Journal: Thursday April 03 2003, @02:07AM)
Already been done! (Score:3, Informative)
(http://blog.davr.org/)
It's called "Video Orbits," I guess. Originally, it was made to make panoramic stills from video. But it can also do the same thing mentioned in the article, sort of scanner like.
Here's the writeup [wearcam.org] and
you can download it over here [sourceforge.net].
I played with it a bit using the movie function of my digital camera, transfering to computer, then using
mplayer -vo png movie.mov && mogrify -format pnm *png && estcement.pl *pnm
(make sure the binaries and scripts are in your path)
You can play with the $steps= line in estpairwise.pl to change the settings. also, i like to take out the -display in estpairwise.pl, in order to speed things up, otherwise it draws each image on screen as it tries to match them up.
will produce cemented.pnm.
This works both as the article talks about, like a scanner, but it also makes kickass hires panoramic shots from crappy 320x240 video.
Note: turn off automatic brightness/ auto white balance when taking your video, or it make look a little funny.
no idea if any of this stuff works under windows. but it works like a charm under linux.
Re:Cannon (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.2005dauphin.org/)
In theory, you could take a 320x240 movie of the *whole page* at once, moving around, and when the movie got sufficiently long the software would reconstruct a high-res image of the whole page, as in 300 dpi or some such scanner-type resolution.
I realize that this is Slashdot, but you might try RTFA. You won't lose karma for that, I promise.