Because bringing them into the country lowers the local pay rate. Supply and demand works both ways.

The proper way to do this is to implement socialism so that the economic benefits they're bringing to the country are shared by everyone and no one is Left behind. Also you do away with billionaires because that's too much power for any one individual to have. Basically you can have as much money as you want but when it's not money anymore when it's power we take it away from you that's the line.

We aren't going to do that because that is way too complex and nuanced for most Americans to grasp and half the people on this forum are freaking out with me just suggesting it.

So what we probably need to do is a 10 or 20 year moratorium on new immigration of any kind because that's a dead simple solution that the sort of person who calls themselves a swing voter can comprehend.

It would also cause a massive Japan style permanent recession for exactly the same reason but it would also mean we have some social stability which is what we need right now. Basically we are going to intentionally impoverish ourselves as a nation because we aren't big-brained enough to actually think our way out of this problem.

Like the old Winston Churchill quote, you can always count on America to do the right thing after they've tried absolutely everything else.

So now we've got to go try everything else before we can actually do the right thing. Or like I mentioned on another thread we can build death camps. But nobody likes to hear about that either. They like to pretend it can't happen here. If only there was a saying about that...

If you could call it thinking, maybe.

Get rid of the pedophile in the white house and my mental health would improve substantially. Get rid of the weird creepy couch fucker too and that sell out mother fucker running the House of Representatives and keep going down until we hit a Democrat to take over the White House and then maybe impeach six supreme Court justices and I think then I could stop Doom scrolling.

But we're not going to do any of that. If I'm really lucky the Republicans will lose the House of Representatives and the Democrats will slow down the damage until 2028 and voters will somehow both be allowed to vote and can stop freaking out about trans girls long enough to not let fascists take over the country and then maybe just maybe I can die in peace.

Because right now dying in peace is the American dream. It's all the trillionaires left us. Well that and raging against trans girls and complaining about ethics and games journalism. Of course in a few years we won't have video games because memory will be too expensive but whatever.

We are not. Sorry. You are fucked and you did it yourself by voting us down this path with every tiny decision you make supporting it (except for that petition against a local data center that lets you pat yourself on the back despite you actually doing 100s of bad actions.)

For starters, we do not know what to address in a rapidly changing landscape. I can tell you that CAPTCHA and plumbing are tasks AI can't do...

You have kids who can't think or learn backed up by parents who don't even know how to be decent parents. The lack of basic skills or poor level of knowledge is already shocking but we are not failing enough of them before they get to me and I'm still failing more of them than ever. No real changes; no evolutionary change, just a sick culture and environment. The GRADE is the sole focus not subject mastery; credential over credibility. USA culture has become vapid on all fronts; cheating is acceptable as voting for a pedo/rapist felon president/dictator (you can SAY one thing but DO the opposite; no problem. hypocrisy seems to have become a virtue.)

You can't MAKE somebody learn outside of really basic things. Studies show using the stick harms problem solving abilities; what little exists in the 1st place. Problem solving is what the AI can't do at all, it only adapts answers and development thinking skills requires practice. The attention and mental energy required for difficult new lessons is not there in enough quantity to keep pace with past expectations. It was bad enough before trying to motivate students when they are flooded with motivators draining their dopamine. In college, just by the nature of being there in the first place precludes most the hurdles faced by teachers! (gradually as the masses enter the system this shifts.)

Blame the teachers/professors for everything and the schools...because that is literally one of main causes of the decline! Way to go! Externalize all YOUR problems like an MBA and now you too have fucked up your supply chain. The school has to compensate for everything wrong, including parenting your brats for you. If the students fail it must never be their fault. Not your perfect snowflake! This is the background problem festering for years before ChatGPT which couldn't have come at a worse time. These students don't study or do their homework (practice) except the slightly lower number of diligent disciplined students. Millennials were a problem until they grew up and realized more effort was required in their late 20s but they were AI free during their bad years...(we had workshops on their very real attitude problems.)

The great student of the past will continue to succeed despite the bad conditions; we couldn't transform the majority into becoming those disciplined students with generations of attempts, some emulation was possible. The amount of discipline required in today's environment is insane. Then you have places forcing AI use despite studies showing it harms already skilled thinkers.

I can tell you there is a mass depression over the situation in my circles. Some are trying to find solutions, but with so many variables and rapid change in the last few years it's been fruitless in the short term. Wait for things to settle and see what works is the general attitude. Humanity has always had troubles adapting new tech responsibly, bad applications come faster than wisdom does -- we're moving too quickly.

some background: https://youtu.be/BRD2EkhZZRI

More likely this is posing and nothing else.

If it is something else, it's a threat, solicitation for bribes, or both

Beat feet, give food

It also has several loopholes.

On the other hand it's kind of infuriating to have the insufferable left telling me that I should be okay with limitless cheap labor flooding my job market because line go up. It is funny to watch the left wing tell me that I should be cool with all this competition for jobs because it helps the overall economy. In any other context the left wing understands that's just the old line go up, rising tide lifts all boats bullshit that we've long since disproven. But the left wing is terrified of being called racist so they can't have an honest discussion about immigration.

I think the only solution right now though would be a complete total moratorium on immigration which would drive the economy into a deep recession but it would also result in jobs for people who don't have them.

The actual solution is to implement market reforms and socialism so that the wealth generated by immigrants gets distributed to everyone but fuck we're not going to do that so the only viable option I can see is either a moratorium while we try to get our shit together or we just start doing what people do when there isn't enough jobs and enough food to go around, we build death camps and just start randomly stuffing people into them.

Keep in mind it's utterly and completely random who gets sent to the camps. Could be brown people could be the Jews could be Italians or the Irish. When you allow all of civilization to collapse for incredibly stupid reasons and the guillotine starts coming down we learned from the French revolution that it's just a bloodbath for everybody involved.

I wish I could think of a solution but the American left wing has become completely fucking useless. They have allowed their deep bitter hate of young men and Centrist voters to basically prevent them from thinking about any useful new tactical solutions. So all they've got is tactics from the 1960s that the fascists adapted to in the 1970s.

Realistically I don't think we're going to do a moratorium on immigration like I suggested above and we're not going to do socialism either so I think in a decade or two if not sooner we're going to have death camps. Trump already tried to build one in Florida but he was so incompetent he couldn't pull it off. Remember death camps don't start as death camps they start as immigration camps and then they become work camps and then they become forced to labor camps and then we stop feeding the people in the camps and then when they can't work anymore because they are severely malnutritioned then they become death camps.

I wish I could figure out how to stop that but people are so fucking insufferable and stupid I don't see how we break the cycle. I'm open to suggestions though. But I'm hoping I die before the worst of it and I wish I hadn't brought a kid into the world. Hopefully they have enough education they can flee the country when the time comes

The main value of bringing h-1bs is that you can crash the education system. Prior to the year 2000 colleges were heavily subsidized. If you want to college before 2001 the government basically paid for your tuition. That's why it was so cheap. The problem is they didn't write you a check and make you walk that check down to the accountant's office and they should have. Instead they just gave the money to the colleges and the colleges past the savings directly on to you.

In the year 2001 or so Bush Jr began slashing that funding and all the state legislatures were slashing their funding. I was there when it was happening and I remember reading in the school newspaper about how in a decade or so tuition would increase by a factor of 10 which was spot on because of course it was it was calculated by economists and it wasn't a hard calculation.

When does subsidies got cut they were turned into tax cuts for billionaires and you got an itty bitty teeny tiny 10 or 15 dollar a month tax cut while the billionaires got well, billions.

It reminds me of an old married with children bit where Al Bundy have been saving for a sports car his whole life by taking cash and burying it in his backyard in a shoe box. His wife Peggy found out about the shoe box years ago and took most of the money. Al asked her what she did with all that money, it would have been thousands of dollars in early 1990s money and a fortune to a broke family like them.

So Peggy tells him that whenever he asked for something they couldn't afford like orange juice she would dig up the box and take some money for it for him.. and take some money for herself. So orange juice for Daddy and a fur coat for Mommy. She had several examples where she bought some simple necessity for the family and then some extravagant luxury for herself.

Peggy in this scenario is the billionaire. The billionaire takes a huge tax cut for themselves when you ask for a small tax cut for yourself. Meanwhile you lose access to education and so do your kids. Of course the old farts here already got their college tuition subsidized and as always I got mine fuck you.

They couldn't have taken away our children's access to higher education without A endless supply of already trained labor from overseas. And on top of that flooding the job market with cheap labor is always priceless.

Oh and there's several loopholes to get around paying the fee anyway if you're friendly with Trump but that's the kind of corruption that's par for the course right now.

Donald Trump and the supreme Court are on track to shut down mail in voting and I know a bunch of idiots here think that's fucking awesome. Because they don't like the sort of people who use mail-in voting.

I wish people that dumb weren't so fucking stupid though. Like I can't get them to understand that when Donald Trump doesn't have to worry about me voting against him he doesn't have to worry about you voting for him because if you decide to start voting against Trump you join me in my camp and guess what I'm not allowed to vote anymore and therefore neither are you.

If you stop your opposition from voting then the other side has absolutely no reason to cater to your desires or your needs. Now if your opposition are blindingly stupid morons who make their voting decisions based on women's sports and ethics and games journalism rather than whether or not they can keep a roof over their heads and yeah it's okay to stop those morons I guess but really what you need to do is make them smarter because taking away people's right to vote is a nuclear option and dropping nuclear bombs is generally a bad thing.

But Christ this is all just too complicated for Americans to understand so our empire is going to collapse and we're all going to be completely fucked eight ways from Sunday by trillionaires and I don't think there's anything we can do to stop it anymore.

As the saying goes - even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

They can't do that until they finish destroying the ACA

Given the price increases on the former and the price drops on the latter, soon it might be feasible

You ignored vulture capitalists buying the starter homes and the Airbnb epidemic

There are people starving on the streets NOW

This is, of course, capitalism-worshiping nonsense. Corporations are legal fictions. Having bought one, you have become the owner of the entire fiction, including the name. They are SCO now in every sense that matters, and I say that as someone who used to run SCO software and who knows several former SCO employees. That SCO is dead, hopefully this SCO can also die soon, but they are legally the same SCO.

False. As a hosting provider Microsoft doesn't care what OS people are using, they just have to host it. But as an OS provider, Linux is still competition, so they still have a reason to attack it.