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Comment Re:oh look (Score 2) 21

They're desperately trying to keep the Chinese models out, but I doubt they'll be successful. Chinese AI is mostly outcome-based, they train a bot to wash dishes, a drone to recognize an insect infestation, or mining machinery to find and follow a vein, and equipment purchased from China is going to come with their AI baked in. Sure, they'll play with chatbots and AGI, but most of their work is devoted to actually accomplishing something besides stock manipulation. Once Chinese AI is seeded throughout the economy in machinery and devices more advanced systems are going to follow.

Comment Re:Meta (Score 0) 35

Facebook isn't a nice company but no company is a nice company.

I don't want to necessarily defend them but Facebook does have legitimate uses. I'm a introverted nerd so I don't have a lot of use for it but I have a couple of friends you are what you would call an extroverted nerd.

I can't think of any existence more frustrating and depressing than being an extroverted nerd. You're someone who wants to be around people and you aren't comfortable if you're alone but you're kind of weird and off-putting. Not for any fault of your own it's just you know you have something wrong with you as far as people are concerned. Maybe you're ugly maybe you're short and fat maybe you're on the spectrum and have zero tact so you blurt out incredibly uncomfortable and inappropriate things pretty much non-stop.

For those kind of nerds they can find like-minded nerds on Facebook and congregate and hang out.

And for regular people they can find people into their hobby. One of my more normal buddies finds his fishing buddies that way.

Comment This isn't a game (Score 1) 35

This is plausible deniability. Basically they want to fire people with disabilities or people who are starting to age because they can replace them with somebody younger who will work harder for less money.

It doesn't matter what experience the people getting fired have it's just a mathematical formula. We are all just cogs anymore except for a tiny handful of extremely specialized workers. If you have to ask if you're one of them you're not you'd be making it at least half a million a year and you wouldn't be wasting your time reading my dumb comments.

This is about creating a algorithm that fires people illegally and then claiming the algorithm is just a fair algorithm. This way Facebook can keep this shit tied up in court for years and we're down most of the people who would sue if not all of them.

If you have ever seen fight club it's the same kind of calculations that were done at the beginning of that film. Including the cost of the lawsuits.

I don't think people have realized just how much big data has tilted employment in favor of the employees. Or if they have realized it they've just pushed it out of their heads and pretended it didn't happen because it's too scary to think about.

I mean my head is full of all these disasters that are coming that nobody is doing anything about and nobody is going to do anything about. It's not necessarily worth knowing about it really. It would be one thing if anyone could do anything about it but when 60% of the country reads at the level of a 12-year-old I think we are pretty well fucked...

Comment Re:I am shocked (Score 1) 30

That's the normal outcome of a legal system run by and for lawyers. I was once added (without my permission) to a class action suit against Seagate. We "won" a coupon for $15 off our next Seagate drive of 500 mb or less (a month after Seagate had stopped producing 500mb drives). The lawyers made $5,000,000.

Comment Re: Oh well (Score 1) 240

They can work, but they have major issues.

1)For at least the first 6 months, if not the first several years, it will take more time and money to teach them than they generate. Why would any company do this?

2)As a hiring manager at company B, I see you apprenticed at company A. I have no idea if that means you're qualified. I can't trust company A to tell me, they're a competitor. Schools stand as a neutral 3rd party telling me that they've completed a set curriculum and should know that much. It's not perfect, but it's a start.

3)Some fields just have a huge amount of up front learning before you can be useful at all. Apprentice plumber? You can run and fetch tools and hold things in place while you watch and learn. Apprentice electrical engineer? You have no idea what inductance is on day one. There's literally nothing you can do. So basically at this point you're hoping the company sets up a school.

Comment So the real threat from AI (Score 2) 139

Is the overall automation threat. Google it, 70% of middle class jobs lost since the 1980s got taken by automation.

It is very possible, even likely, that we are approaching a tipping point. You can find articles explaining that the baby boomers are the only ones who have any discretionary spending whatsoever and they are propping up multiple industries. They aren't going to leave anything for their kids either. They're spending it all. But they don't blow on RVs and mimosas they blow on healthcare at least in America. And even if by some miracle there it would have been some money left in there savings it looks like the trillionaire class is going to loot it. Remember that a lot of their savings is in the form of stocks because that's how they keep them above inflation and rules have been changed that will allow companies to take worthless stock like SpaceX and dump it into 401ks...

So all of this means that a relatively small amount of permanent unemployment might cause a cascading effect.

Simply put there won't be enough money in the economy. Too much of it at the top. The tax base collapses because people don't make enough money to pay taxes and yeah you can use tariffs to raise their taxes but then they have to spend less. Before you know it government spending collapses which causes even more job losses and therefore even less economic activity and spending. It becomes a self-reinforcing loop. The whole system collapses. Mix in declining birth rates and yeah it's a disaster that we just pretending isn't happening

The real fun comes when basic services start getting cut. Education goes away and you have kids just kind of wandering the streets with no jobs because even if you bring back child labor there's nothing for those kids to do. And then the police go. A bunch of numbnuts think that's cool cuz they are looking forward to being able to shoot people. Without realizing what it was like to have roving bands of bandits...

I don't think folks have really come to terms with how fragile our civilization really is.

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