That's evasive again. You could come clean how you are invested in this. I know its at least your employment so far.

Where we are now with this is Levi's selling jeans to the gold diggers, but we're not hearing many "Hallelujahs" and "there's gold in them hills" and this tech's been around a while now.

LLM's bringing something new to coding, I'll give you that. I use it every day, it will keep me in employment longer with my old brain. And cybersecurity, yup, it will find our holes.

That's pretty specific. Niche applications.

Does it warrant investment on this scale ? And disruption on this scale? The US and UK governments are more or less betting on it with no evidence of it's application like the ".com" crash never happened. All the new data centers and energy demands? Sorry I am well dubious about the pay off, this looks more like some investment hype racket than an industrial revolution. Reminds me of crypto, everyone involved pumping the value.

We cant bet here, but this time next year if we're not talking about how this hype failed to deliver, I'll come back and say you were right.

The upside of an AI LLM bubble burst is there is going to be a load of cheap compute power around, hopefully that can get applied to traditional "AI" applications we know work, like drug discovery, medical scans and the like.

A Gen AI from an LLM, don't make me laugh. It's failed in design already, it only knows history and the present and future are unknowable.

I was wondering that, as a healthy occupation goes, whether cycle courier was up there. Could add cycle powered tuk tuks and recon infantry to that list.

Any occupation essentially that mirrors our hunter gatherer forebears who had a different set of health challenges granted, like no antibiotics for one, but they were on their feet, in their bodies and minds. Essentially not doing this shit, whatever I am calling myself today, technologist, lol.

They raise a good point Gemini, OpenAI haven't posted a profit yet - right?

Where are the stories about companies building their own LLMs celebrating the revolution?

Here's 55 stories from first page of google. They all seem pretty ... meh, opportunistic

Back to China?

Isn't that the "Wong" number then?

= heart disease.

Circumstantial I know, I have a nurse friend who did a spell in cardiac ward with notable amount of taxi driver patients.

They can only earn sitting down getting stressed in traffic, eating crap food on the go

Weirdo glasses broken.

Consider a knee in the bollocks to protect the gene pool and their future targets. At your discretion ladies.

Meh. 3 minutes is enough for most men from what the women tell me after a lesson from the Swiss Tony school of love.

"Wham bam thank you mam"

Maybe, I know they have been tried, auditing wealth is complicated.

It's more symbolic, showing the people wealth can be challenged. We have a lot of respect for wealth, brings out the peasant in us.

If finance has trapped the money, that's where the incentive should be applied to get that money back into the economy working building businesses, buying stuff. As well as punitive measures I'd like to see encouragement to investors, make it more appealing. Maybe tax breaks on start ups for 5 years that are doing some on the ground social good. Then I'd also like to see this parasitic business of charging interest challenged, take a page from Sharia law and incentivise profit sharing on loans.

Why don't we have state owned banks, that people can invest in, like a government bond?

I want to confirm my opinion by testing it against yours.

If you feel like you were being attacked, that was not my intention.

I have learnt something, thank you.

OK. That's SAAS. Not Sass ;)

Don't know. Don't really suppose they do, but thanks to the hype, they think they should. If they want to tire kick use SASS, good call, low risk.

That's the most useful thing for me you've said so far. I don't know about graphml I do know sql and if the data is good and the results are interpreted objectively it cant lie. The LLM's we know cant lie, because they don't know what a lie is or looks like. They work on probability, statistics, and keeping you engaged with a caveat "don't rely on us check your sources" when they are marketed as "intelligent". Lying in children is considered as a mark of intelligence, interestingly, but businesses dont tend to employ them, too risky.

The example you cite could be achieved in Excel, with a pivot table, given the data. Very available skills. I dont see the value of an LLM to give me an equivalent answer with a different margin of error. I guess the LLM wont get tired, distracted or hungover, that's a plus. But an LLM wont factor in a conversation at the water cooler about how customer A is about to move into other markets and increase it's orders and give you that extra garnish to the information you might get from a human with human motives. Or maybe tell you the sales data from Customer B isnt in yet, because Bill, the orders data guy is on holiday in Haiwai.

I get it. I see the value. But I am not as convinced as you. I am a sceptic. I am also ethical, and marketing a statistical guess as "intelligence" is perhaps not ethical.

No need. I know. I work in a field where this is applied. You touch on one thing, that what we market as AI is a collection of technologies of which LLM is just one. Any algorithm we have created could be argued as "intelligent" within very specific domains, even managing a bank account, 1st year comp sci task. The story underneath is perhaps wider deployment of neural nets, an old concept, that underpins LLM. And perhaps calling it "intelligent" is a lie and undermines the value of humans, "CoS Cognitive Support" or "Statistical Intelligence" would be more honest. Assuming that quality is still valued.

Ok. But would you really bet your pension on that? My guess is 'no' because we haven't reached AI yet, and I suspect you know that.

I do. Use it every day to help me code. I am getting old, I forget stuff and cant be arsed to look it up. The difference is, the next guy who doesn't know when it's wrong, or doesn't understand the problem domain to prompt well, he needs me to translate and hopefully I am retired by then.

Another example of greedy business. A lot of that going on these days. If it's not paying Amazon Prime to give you ads, it's or Ryannair airlines charging you for sitting with your kid.

At some point these activities must turn customers off. Businesses seem to keep trying to see how far they can push it. Is this a problem? Well yes, I am getting less value for money, putting ads in my car is not adding value to it, it's detracting from it.

But all is good in the name of profit? If you are a shareholding capitalist perhaps. But, you'll see it in your pension fund. Will I ? In the UK, perhaps if you save a pension pot approaching $700K you might get an income of $30K, that's just under minimum wage for 40 years of work.

Capitalism is increasingly looking like servicing making money from money rather than serving the countries that host it. So we see higher prices, less value while capital gets more capital. That's whack. Capital knows no loyalty than other to itself and it has no concept of when enough is enough, it's like a cancer.

Bring on the wealth taxes, reset the scales, capital is taking the piss.

So scale.ai is SAAS. Well I am none the wiser and I don't see why I or anyone should use this service, no one knows what it's for or how it helps.

Ignorance is often mistaken for stupidity, as confidence is mistaken for competence.

This is the research. What I have learnt so far is even the suppliers are not sure how to apply their AI, let alone the customers.

I am not disturbed at all. But I'd advise a friend to always know who they are working for and who they supply.

O you again.

He's just not into you.

Let it go, Let it go...

Apologies for the tail end of that, I have been to the pub.

I've liked, almost bar this one guy, every American I have met, and I liked being in the USA. It's great. It is land of the free, home of the brave, and all that jazz. It's an amazing place. The people make it an amazing place, the ordinary people who do amazing things like fly to the moon! It's a small minority, the most selfish, greedy and ruthless that give the US a bad name, they have far too much influence.