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Sega Genesis Collection for PSP and PS2 73

An anonymous reader writes "Sega has announced what may be the coolest retro collection yet in a compilation of 30 Sega Genesis games for the PSP and PS2. 1up has a great breakdown of the games in the collection, which features everything from the Phantasy Star games to the Golden Axe games, to the Shinobis, to the Vectormans. Pretty cool stuff." From the article: "Sega's doing its part to give these games context with numerous unlockable interviews with the original developers and a museum with trivia on the disc. According to Sega, the games will be reproduced with 'the utmost accuracy to the originals as possible' by developer Backbone Entertainment. And as a special cool bonus, the PSP version will allow -- for the first time ever -- wireless multiplayer for several of the games. "
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Sega Genesis Collection for PSP and PS2

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  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:38PM (#15906672)
    now for God's sake, release ports of Radient Silvergun and Panzer Dragoon Saga so I don't have to blow $400+ dollars on ebay to play them.
  • No Shadowrun? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wuie ( 884711 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:38PM (#15906681)
    What's the deal, chummer? No Shadowrun?

    Don't make me come over there and frag some wage slaves!
    • Sega didn't create Shadowrun, nor do they probably have the rights to it.

      With the new Shadowrun coming out for the 360, I doubt you'll see the Genesis version anywhere outside of an (illegal) emulator any time soon.
      • http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/shadowrun [mobygames.com]

        The Genesis version of Shadowrun was made by a developer called BlueSky and was published by SEGA, so it should be feasible to re-publish unless Microsoft has control over titles produced before they acquired the rights to the franchise.

        At any rate, it would be make-or-break for me for any Genesis collection.

        Oh well, at least it has Phantasy Star 4, which they didn't manage to port to the GBA to go with the first 3 for some reason (they could have at least rele
    • Microsoft currently has the exclusive rights to make Shadowrun videogames, according to the official Shadowrun website.
  • Like the Shining Series, Streets of Rage Series, Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Zero Wing (For Great Justice!). Honestly, though, I'm still waiting for the Phantasy Star I, II, and IV 3D Remakes... What ever happened to that anyway?
  • by Daetrin ( 576516 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:42PM (#15906703)
    So will the same bundle be available on Nintendo's virtual console? Or will we have to buy each game separately for that format? Or is Sega going to outright renege on the agreement they presumably had with Nintendo to support the virtual console?
    • by Babbster ( 107076 ) <aaronbabb@NoSPAM.gmail.com> on Monday August 14, 2006 @06:05PM (#15906862) Homepage
      What does one thing have to do with the other? I doubt that Sega negotiated any kind of exclusivity with Nintendo for their Wii/Genesis emulation support, and they would be stupid do so unless the money offered by Nintendo was huge.

      Besides, exclusives are bad for gamers.
      • That may be an answer to the last question, but it doesn't address the first part at all. I'm curious what the price point will be for the PS2 collection and how it will compare to the price point on the virtual console version if the collection gets relased for it. Nintendo might not be happy if the Sega collection is cheap enough to make people reconsider purchasing NES and SNES games at whatever pricepoint Nintendo was originally thinking of. On the other hand if it turns out to be cheaper to get on the
        • Here's the way I see it from Nintendo's end: For most people, the emulated games available online through the Wii are going to be a bonus. The only people who would buy the Wii specifically for that purpose are those few "hardcore" (wow, overused) retro gamers who won't, for whatever reason, download emulators and ROMs. The only way those people will feel cheated by the service is if a) the downloads just cost too much (anything over $5 a pop should be considered too much) and/or b) the selection of game
          • The only people who would buy the Wii specifically for that purpose are those few "hardcore" (wow, overused) retro gamers who won't, for whatever reason, download emulators and ROMs.

            And gee, there might be a few of us who look forward to being able to legitemately purchase some of the games that we missed out on back on the first run of the NES and SNES. The fact that they'll be on a real console should make getting together groups of people for multiplayer a lot easier. I've never had much luck convincin

          • My wife is extremely excited at the prospect of playing old NES games on the Wii. I've actually showed her SMB and a few others in rom form, but she's simply not interested. For her, it's all about the experience of sitting in front of the TV with a classic controller.
        • I'm curious what the price point will be for the PS2 collection ...
          EB Games is listing the PS2 bundle at $19.99, and $29.99 for the PSP.
          • EB Games is listing the PS2 bundle at $19.99, and $29.99 for the PSP.

            Thirty games for thirty dollars. Or less.

            That means that the market price for retro/classic gaming is moving towards below $1/title. If this trend continues, it may not be much longer that Xbox Live Arcade can get away with charging a whole ten dollars for one 15-year-old game, and should put to rest the worries that the Nintendo Virtual Console pricing scheme will be high enough to discourage potential buyers.
  • no wonderboy ? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by eyegee88 ( 826176 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:47PM (#15906743)
    Too bad they didnt put wonderboy, a real nice classic.
  • Gift Idea! (Score:2, Funny)

    by abrotman ( 323016 )
    I think I know what I'm asking for as a gift for Veteran's Day!!!!
  • I wonder ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tink2000 ( 524407 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:50PM (#15906763) Homepage Journal
    Just how much of this is reaction to the perception of the fan-base that these titles are "abandonware"? I mean, aside from ROMs and old-skool computer geeks, how badly missed are these games, and since they are now coming back in updated format is this simply a way to crack down on emulators and ROM sites?

    I wish they'd release PSI (Master System) and Herzog Zwei (Genesis), myself... good times, good times...
    • A bunch of these games were great. I think the issue is not so much that Sega/Sony are attempting to recommoditize abondonware as much as that there is demand for official ports. Perhaps this means a partial return to top down and side scrollers in liu of more 3D mega-games. I've had my fill of 3D gaming, and perhaps the DS success is an example Sony might want to capture as well. JMO...
    • Re:I wonder ... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by kirun ( 658684 )
      There are already a load of retro arcade collections available. I own a ton of GBA ones. Most of them are pretty good reproductions, but a few are awkward (like Bubble Bobble needs to zoom out or scroll to get the correct resolution, Robotron doesn't work exactly right because the GBA didn't have enough Fire buttons). I also own Atari Retro Classics DS, which has to be the buggiest, most thrown-together piece of junk I've seen in a long time. I nearly gave it to a jumble sale, but if somebody paid 10p for i
      • it really is basically impossible to get the games legally for an emulator

        Well, you could buy/find/make your own dumper, find the carts at a flea market or "jumble sale" and dump them yourself.
    • is this simply a way to crack down on emulators and ROM sites?

      I think it's an attempt to sell games. Just a guess though.
    • Agreed. If I could get a full compilation of Phantasy Star 1-4 (hopefully on the DS), I would be the happiest pony in all of ponyville.
    • I remember Herzog Zwei...it's the earliest RTS game I can ever remember seeing. It beat Dune 2 and Warcraft by something like 5 years. It's not exactly like modern RTS's (you fly a plane around, pick up/drop units, and you have to pick up a unit to give it an order, and there are only like 3 orders - defend, patrol, and attack enemy base)...but it's definitely an RTS, even if you don't have direct control over the units. Very very fun game. I think it should be recognized as one of the first RTS's, even
  • Mixed feelings (Score:3, Informative)

    by BertieBaggio ( 944287 ) * <bob@nospam.manics.eu> on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:53PM (#15906778) Homepage

    I'll admit, when I saw this I thought "Excellent, a chance to do what I really want: play the classic games I love, portably". Then I realised that Sony wasn't doing a Good Thing (TM) at all. The Good Thing would be to stop messing with the firmware with every damn update and let the homebrew developers in. Give me the ability to run a Genesis emulator without jumping through contrived hoops (which are really holes in Sony's attempted patching), and without a chance of bricking an expensive piece of kit. Hell, I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount, say $5-10, to 'unlock' the PSP to do homebrew stuff. I don't think such a move would be morally right (and probably not financially right for Sony, what with support), but I *really* like the old Genesis games.

    As for the game lineup itself... well, it's good, but they could've done better. Golden Axe is plain fun, and Phantasy Star will keep you entertained for quite a while. Sonic 1 and 2 are *excellent*, but they missed the best of the lot: Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles. I can't believe this is by accident. I smell a "Genesis Collection Vol II" in the works.

    Will I buy this collection? Nah. true, it's the right sort of idea -- and multiplayer makes it *almost* worthwhile -- but I just don't agree with either the method or the game choice. So come on Sony, let us use our hardware the way we damn well please, and do what we will with emulators and other nice things.

    (...and while you're at it, let us rip UMD games to memory sticks. Those things are sloooow. kthxbye)

    • As for the game lineup itself... well, it's good, but they could've done better. Golden Axe is plain fun, and Phantasy Star will keep you entertained for quite a while. Sonic 1 and 2 are *excellent*, but they missed the best of the lot: Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles. I can't believe this is by accident. I smell a "Genesis Collection Vol II" in the works.

      Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2) has both of the games you mentioned, plus many more. You might be right that they're thinking about doing more classic

      • Re:Mixed feelings (Score:3, Informative)

        Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2) has both of the games you mentioned, plus many more

        I appreciate the sentiment, but this announcement is newsworthy (to me) mainly because of the announcement of these games for the *PSP*. The PS2 is a neat system, but if I'm playing a fixed console, why don't I just fire up the games on my original Genesis (à la Mega Drive over here)? Better still, I can play them on my PC, and take advantage of save states and save state 'hacking' to make the game do interesting thi

        • Re:Mixed feelings (Score:3, Informative)

          by Babbster ( 107076 )

          I guess what irritated me about this collection was: 1) Sony wanting to say "Hey, we're into classic games too!" whilst trying frantically to lock out homebrew developers (wouldn't it be apropos to have a further lock-out firmware update included on the UMD with this collection, mandatory to play the games?)

          Wouldn't it be Sega saying that they're "into classic games," given that they're the ones making this game? If Sony is saying anything by trying to lock out emulators, it's "Hey, Sega, we're trying har

          • TFA doesn't seem to mention a 'developer' / porter / publisher, but I guess Sega would be a sound guess. You make a good point actually; in a sense, Sony is getting good PR from this both ways.

            To Sega, they can say:"We're good guys. We are putting up roadblocks to try and halt homebrew development, and are keeping the average user away from Genesis emulators. You guys get to rerelease old games and we both make money!"

            To users, they can say:"Hey, look! We have some classic Genesis games officially and

        • appreciate the sentiment, but this announcement is newsworthy (to me) mainly because of the announcement of these games for the *PSP*. The PS2 is a neat system, but if I'm playing a fixed console, why don't I just fire up the games on my original Genesis (à la Mega Drive over here)? Better still, I can play them on my PC, and take advantage of save states and save state 'hacking' to make the game do interesting things. I can also take screenshots / recordings easier on the PC, and I can store my *enti
  • Enough Value Added? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SlashdotOgre ( 739181 ) on Monday August 14, 2006 @05:57PM (#15906814) Journal
    It ought to be interesting to see if there will be enough bonus features to compete with homebrew emulators. If the price is reasonable ($30 or less) and the games are at least slightly updated (eg. the Sonic Jam or GBA versions of the games), then I'd consider it.
  • wow! (Score:5, Funny)

    by minus_273 ( 174041 ) <aaaaa@[ ]M.yahoo.com ['SPA' in gap]> on Monday August 14, 2006 @06:05PM (#15906866) Journal
    finally a new original game on the PSP that not a port! oh wait..
  • The article doesn't say if these will be the Sega CD versions or no? Although the Sega CD was a terrible flop and what not, it did make better versions of the genesis games.
  • This is very good news, and finally we see they're releasing a good number of games, not just 5-6 (pm àst compilations: it's not fun to pay whole price for 5-6 games, older than gramps --great games, but older than gramps-- you already own). The only downside to it is: Where's my Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Goddamn them, they must've thought this through; they'll be releasing another collection with the missing great games. I think they are missing... - Sonic 3 & Knuckles (S&K with Sonic 3 on) -
    • Agreed. I was pretty miffed about the lack of S3 & K et al, but the Shining series was a bunch of great games. I spent countless hours playing and replaying the Sonic games and Shining Force 1 -- time unrivalled even by modern games (no I don't play WoW). I'll admit the rest of the games on offer aren't bad, but, as noted above and in other comments, there are some surprising omissions. Makes you wonder - did Sony/Sega listen to the community (or even common sense) when choosing the games for publicatio

    • Where's your Sonic 3 and Knuckles? In the Sonic Mega Collection Plus, of course. They've got Sonic 3 and Knuckles, the Sonic 1 and Knuckles bonus stage game, Sonic 2 and Knuckles...why, everything you think is missing! And for only $20 to boot!

      Sega isn't run by idiots. Including all of the Sonic games in the package would mean that the incentive for buying the Mega Collection is close to zero. Even if it's an older title, it's still being produced and there's still some level of demand for it.

      In any ca
      • I'd heard it had Sonic and Knuckles, but I'd NOT heard of the ones that the combo games were included, now I've GOTTA get it! Hyper Sonic is just too damn cool to pass up.
      • Where's your Sonic 3 and Knuckles? In the Sonic Mega Collection Plus, of course. Oh, awesome. Then where's my Sonic Mega Collection Plus for PSP? Sega isn't run by idiots. LOL man. I mean it, I laughed in real life, in front of my monitor. If I were editing an encyclopedia and had to do an article of "idiot", I'd ask current and past Sega directors for pictures to illustrate my article.
        • Oh, awesome. Then where's my Sonic Mega Collection Plus for PSP?

          You're right - that doesn't exist and probably never will. To be fair, though, I don't believe you mentioned the PSP once in your original post, and because the number of people who own a PSP is very, VERY small compared to the number who own a PS2, I guessed PS2 instead of PSP.

          And regardless of Sega's management mishaps, you've got to admit that it makes zero business sense to remove a product that's still viable and not technologically outda
          • Yes, I hadn't mentioned the PSP, my bad. Yeah, I own a PSP and despite how wrong not being able to run open sauce on it is, I'm seeing if I can avoid exploiting/modifying it; partly because of the time it takes to learn all that, and partly because I buy my games anyways; that's why I'm very concerned regarding my favourite MegaDrive games for it, I'd like to play them without having to modify it then use an open sauce emulator.

            BTW, replacing a product by a superior product is perfectly acceptable (if onl

  • by Stormwatch ( 703920 ) <rodrigogirao AT hotmail DOT com> on Monday August 14, 2006 @07:31PM (#15907330) Homepage
    Altered Beast, Bonanza Bros, Flicky, Gain Ground, Golden Axe, Super Thunder Blade - why the Genesis versions? Port from the better-looking arcade versions.

    Sonic The Hedgehog - again? Sonic Mega Collection was released two years ago!

    Virtua Fighter 2 - gotta be kidding me... release the Sega Ages port instead.

    Phantasy Star series - now here's the most flawed part. It's incomplete, put the first one there too - anything less won't do. And in PS2 and PS3, I sure don't want accuracy: despite the good plots, these games desperately need a massive overhaul! They look crappy, sound horrible, have exceedingly complex labyrinths, characters move and level-up too slowly.

    This compilation is overall very weak. It certainly could use games like Beyond Oasis, Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, Pulseman, Dynamite Headdy, Kid Chameleon, Ranger X, Revenge of Shinobi, Mystic Defender, and the Shining Force series.
    • Oh crap. "Gunstar Heroes". Now I think I'm going to cry. I loved that game so much.
    • While I agree with you that it SHOULD include those games, in a perfect world, here in reality, Sega is only legally allowed to put out a compilation of it's own IP's and certain games that it published. Almost all of the games you mentioned aren't Sega properties, and thusly couldn't be included.

      Though, I will heartily agree that we need to see some Shining Force action soon! Preferably a collection that includes all of the Genesis games and the all versions of SF3, including the ones we didn't get here
    • A reasomable proportion of the ones you ask for were not published by Sega.
    • If you read my other post in this story the Action Replay MAX includes a Genesis emulator for PS2.

      Yes I know I could do it on my PC but gaming in the living room comfortably with my wife in the setting intended for those games sounds much better to me.

      Anyways... thanks for the list of games to try out!!!!!
  • Just to get around the lousy keyword ads.

    Of course, this may be too late, as it's been /.'d
  • Collections such as these won't always meet your expectations; if for nothing else, modern controllers aren't close enough to what the original games used, and so it won't always work that well.

    "Midway Arcade Treasures 2" - Xbox(1):

    Mortal Kombat 2, Mortal Kombat 3, Gauntlet II, Spyhunter II, Xybots, NARC, APB, Cyberball 2072, Timber, Total Carnage, Pit Fighter, Wizard of Wor, Xenophobe, Primal Rage, Arch Rivals, Rampage World Tour, Kozmik Krooz'r, Championship Spirit, Hard Drivin', Wacko.

    -Of these, Timber i
    • Well, one difference between the two compilations is that the Sega one will be of Genesis games. The Genesis gamepad is awfully similar to current modern pads (including the PSP's), so the control schemes can stay relatively intact.

      Midway Arcade Treasures 2, on the other hand, contained arcade games. One of the more interesting aspects of arcade games is that developers can experiment with unconventional controls without significantly increasing the price of a cabinet. Sprint, for instance, had a really
  • As I think someone has mentioned, they have a couple of Shinobi games on there, but not Revenge of Shinobi. Wasn't that widely considered to be one of the best of the series? Also, this falls in my personal favorites--the Streets of Rage games were excellent. The controls of Streets of Rage 2 were just about perfected, and there was a pretty good balance in the four playable characters. (Um, except that Axl had that incredibly awesome sliding uppercut that was da bomb.) That was some pretty good multi-p

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