Sony Struggles To Define the PSP 289
Brian Crecente has a piece over on the Rocky Mountain site talking about Sony's struggle to make the PSP stand out. The failure of the UMD format, its de-emphasis as a media player, and the lackluster stable of games leaves PSP owners wondering exactly what to use it for. From the article: "While digital media is a key focus for Sony Computer Entertainment right now, the company is also working to expand other elements of the portable as well. In November, the PlayStation 3 will launch with built in PSP support. While [PSP Marketing Manager John] Koller wouldn't discuss specifics, he did say that the PlayStation Portable will be a 'remote control device' for the next-gen console. He says more details about that connectivity will be coming out in the coming months, perhaps at the Tokyo Game Show next month."
Defining the PSP (Score:5, Interesting)
The PSP is a brilliant piece of hardware, but 99% of the games suck, im not stupid enough to buy my movies over again and its too freakin big for an mp3 player, so most of the time it sits on the desk waiting for some game to come out that I might actually enjoy. Its pretty sad when the best game on the platform is the first one that was launched with it (Lumines). Oh well, at least there is Lumines 2 on the way.
99% of all PSP games? (Score:5, Funny)
How is that possible if it doesn't even have 100 games? Possibly you mean that 95% of all PSP games suck 100%, and the last one sucks 80%? :-D
I own a PSP. I use it for Puzzle Block Party, a game that uses about a fifth of its blurry battery-eating screen for actual gameplay (the rest is used for weird animated comic characters). I wish they made it for the PSP, then I could, uhm, try to sell my PSP on eBay or something.
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:4, Informative)
I also play the Colin McRae 2005 [amazon.co.uk] rally game a lot - again, ideal for travelling - although I admit that it took a larger learning curve than usual to get to grips with some of the (ahem) "features".
As for others, both LocoRoco and Mercury are simple but addictive.
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a launch title. I can play games for a long time, but years? Also, Puzzle Block Party plays similarly, so I can't really go back to Lumines. I always want to turn the blocks in Lumines now that I'm tuned to Puzzle Block Party.
I own it. It's probably a good game, but I'm more an F-Zero person, myself. Wipeout Pure simply feels slow and sluggish. F-Zero cars are fast, accelerate fast and turn quickly, and it's kind of hard for me to adjust to
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:2)
Wipeout is slow? There is a steady speed increase in the game. Some of the later levels are so fast you kinda have to develop a sixth sense for the track. Try playing zone if you need more speed. the turning is just how the game was
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:2)
Welcome to the wonderful world that is Sony. I used to be a big fan of all that was Sony, even to the point of recommending Sony products to many many friends and family. Now, I don't even consider Sony with regards to my purchases due to their complete contempt for their "consumers" in all divisions of their business (not just SOE o
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:3, Interesting)
Pretty much the same way here too. I used to be a big fan of everything sony. I bought a sony dvd player, big screen TV, surround sound, a camera, even this laptop I'm on right now is a sony vaio. Then I bought a sony PDA, TH-55, and it crapped out 1 day after I bought. I took it back the store that I got it from and after a week they found another one. After I replaced it, it lasted for about 6 months then it died. I sent it in for the warrenty replacement. Sony sat on it for about six months then
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:2)
Right, of course.
Yeah. Loco Roco has been out for a month or something in Europe. It's fun, but short. I played through it in a few days. Didn't get every last Mui Mui, but probably not going to play it anymore. Lumines is a launch title. It's way, way old. I've been playing it for months, but eventually, I did get bored. And now
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:5, Interesting)
Now that I think of it, the PSP's price likely has something to do with that. It just came down $100 recently here in Canada and it's still about $80 more than a DS Lite. If the PSP were closer to the same price as the DS I might be able to forgive the smaller library and take a chance on it. As it stands I'm considering just buying a DS Lite so I can bring both DSes with me and play multiplayer games with friends who don't have one yet.
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:3, Informative)
You should get a DS Lite anyway, if only for the screen, comparing the DS Fat and the DS Lite' screens is like night and day.
Re:99% of all PSP games? (Score:2)
I own the original as well, and I would agree with you: it works just fine. However, I am a teensy bit jealous of my friends that have Lites; the difference in brightness has tempted me dangerously close to purchasing one.
Like you, I'll probably wait until it breaks (or I decide to put Linux on it [dslinux.org]) before getting a Lite.
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2, Informative)
What's your price? A quick look at ebay shows one going for $167 with 3 min left. Not bad for a paperweight.
This 99% of games suck bullshit has just about got to stop. Have you bought a game in the last 6 months? There are many fine games for the console now, even if they weren't there at launch.
My advice is to take it off of Craigslist, buy a couple
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
You mean the PS2 version plays as badly as the PSP version? Gah. I heard the PC version is pretty cool though, with keyboard and mouse.
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
What Might Help (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:3, Interesting)
There are many fine games for the PSP if your idea of a fine game is a sequel to a PSX/PS2 game . The problem for many PSP owners seems to be that if they want those games, they alreadyt bought them, and aren't interested in just buying the PSP versions. PSP developers might be able to get away with just dumping out low
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
but the PSP cannot catch up to the DS as long as PSP owners look at DS owners and seem them getting a endless stream of innovative, engaging games that cost less.
So you're saying that the best hope Sony has is for Nintendo to churn out a bunch of sucky DS games? Makes sense to me.
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
It will never stop, just like it never stopped for the Xbox (I still see people occasionally say "Halo is the only reason to buy an Xbox"). Some people just can't change their minds once they've made them up, and what is true early in the console's life will be believed until the thing is replaced with a "PSP-2."
Personally, I could only imagine buying a PSP if I started getting tired of the games I'm playing on my DS and there's nothing left to
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
Untold Legends has its set of fans, as does Metal Gear Acid. Ridge Racers is a pretty good title, but it's limited in its replayability b/c it was rushed. There are lots of good titles available and alot more on the way. It's hard to tell your gaming preferences, but based on what youve already bought you should check out Daxter, Burnout Leg
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
I love my PSP, and I still plan to eventually get a DS too. I say hold on to both for a while. The PSP has some good games coming down the tubes, and Nintendo will always have its core franchises. You have the best of both worlds. They are both solid consoles; light years better than any portable thusfar.
Since you
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
Sorry if my inital post sounded trollish it really wasnt ment to be, its just that so far for me I havent found alot of quick games, most are ones you have to spend alot of time with. I think maybe the problem is
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:3, Insightful)
My homebrew solution allows me to use 2gb Mini-SD cards. You can't imagine how many nes/gameboy/gbc roms that I can keep with me.
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
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Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
My PSP isn't downgradeable. New ones aren't (yet), I think. And if you actually do want to download demos or buy games, you can't do that with a "fixed" PSP, either.
With a DS, you have none of these problems.
Re:Defining the PSP (Score:2)
One of the best portable media players... (Score:4, Informative)
How I use it: In flight entertainment. It's amazing what a flight attendant stopper it is.
Ingredients:
Options:
DVD backups (VOB files) that you save to another file server.
Converting FLV videos from YouTube or Google (a bit too much effort for the resulting crappy quality).
Basically, I take PSPVideo9, add a line to its XML configuration file to recognize a DVR-MS file (I have a Media Center), and then pick about 6 hours of Colbert Reports and Daily Show's I've missed in the past week or so. Anything with a DirectShow filter installed can be converted by PSPVideo9... it just takes an extra line of XML to recognize the file extension.
This process takes a while, so I start it the night before my trip...
In the morning, I copy the files to my Memory Stick during my shower (once a month, whether I need it or not). This can take some time depending on your card reader speed.
I then laugh my ass off on the plane all the way across country. You can do this with a DVD backup program and PSPVideo9 as well. A 30 minute TV program is about 60MB and a 2 hour movies chops down to less than 300MB. If you have a 16:9 aspect ratio movie, it fills up the screen as the director intended. If you have a 4:3 show, just zoom the PSP screen and it will fill it (you lose 10% off the top and bottom, but it isn't stretched out).
Now, here's the next part... there are 100's of ways to skin this cat, but here is how I did it...
Get TV programs remotely (extra credit):
So, on your remote computer:
I'd like to do the RSS route... that would be cool.
Everyone I've let use my PSP to watch video (even iPod users) are blown away with the quality of the playback.
Battery life for memory-stick based operations is *great*. I use 1 bar out of 3 watching movies or TV for 2 hours. iPod / iTunes video does work well.
Be sure to pick up a combination USB and PSP cable so you can charge your PSP and another USB device as well off 1 port.
Drawbacks and gripes:
1 GB Mem sticks are a small. 4GB will be great. Those can be had for $150 or so now.
You can't take a HUGE library of media with you (like a 60GB iPod)... which is fine for TV for me
File format for video has to be MP4... way lame, but you have to chop it anyway.
Volume for playing video back isn't great - it needs to get boosted during conversion
Playing audio through FM tuners is NOT good... too quiet for most cars with the road noise
But, I think it is a really nice piece of hardware... I dan't play many games, but the ones I have, I enjoy. I don't play a lot of other games on other platforms either, so I don't have a lot to compare it to...
TTFN
The Screen has huge Problems (Score:3, Insightful)
No, it's not. Sony went after two properties when choosing a screen: Big and Bright. They got those two, but they messed up the rest. First of all, it's blurry as hell. When I first played Ridge Racer on my PSP, I thought they had actually managed to implement motion blur on the PSP. "Wow, didn't think it could do that", I thought. Until I played some other games. All of them had motion blur. It's not the games, it's the sucky screen. It's especially visible in games like Lumi
Re:One of the best portable media players... (Score:3, Insightful)
But now with the new Homeland Security policy and the TSA's help [foxnews.com], I won't have to brush my teeth or style my mop while on the road either! (Not that Fox News is a great source, but it was in the mighty Slashdot post about the terrorism event... so it must be true... or canonically wrong.)
I can pack lighter AND have more time too!
TTFN
Easy! (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll take 10!
Re:Easy! (Score:3, Insightful)
I have 6 games, all of which I really enjoy. (Lumines; Armored Core; Tiger W. Golf; Wipeout; Tomb Raider; and Burnout) In addition to that I can webbrowse via the wifi and watch movies from the memory stick.
The problem with UMD is that Sony never priced the movies at a reasonable price point. Why on earth would I pay more for less than I can get on a DVD?
*That* is why UMD wasn't adopted.
Re:Response From the Fans (Score:2, Insightful)
UMD gets the job done. It's a portable media format smaller and more durable than miniDVD that can store data and music for games. DS games aren't exactly printed on an 'open' format either... If you don't like the idea of UMD movies or they are too expensive for your likes, then simply don't buy any. Problem solved. It's nic
Re:Response From the Fans (Score:2)
2) You will also be able to use a straight USB connection as well. Depending on the type of game interactivity. [ps2 games already have this functionality]
3) If the PS3 has media center capabilities, it can obviously connect with other devices on the same network; if you have a w
It's a pocket Betamax (Score:2, Funny)
Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:4, Insightful)
If they wouldn't try so damn hard to break homebrew apps, I bet people might buy more games. I know for a fact that before the ability to downgrade firmware, people wouldn't buy games because it required an update first.
Open the thing up (except the UMD format -- I'll give them that much to keep), let us make our own games without implementing roadblocks to homebrew, and the thing will sell more.
Oh, and actually release some damn games already.
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
If they wouldn't try so damn hard to break homebrew apps, I bet people might buy more games. I know for a fact that before the ability to downgrade firmware, people wouldn't buy games because it required an update first.
Presumably they're doing that to prevent piracy, but why are they so worried when so many PSP games suck anyhow? The really sad part is that most of the games suck less after piracy because they load faster and use less battery when loaded from a flash card.
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
They'd sell more hardware at a loss anyway. Hehe. Seriously, though, Sony needs more sales of games. I'd recommend better games that don't cost $50. The one time Sony doesn't copy Nintendo...
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
I dunno, dude. The Gizmondo and GP32 were both handhelds that were pretty much designed expressly for homebrew gaming (and by that, I of course mean "emulators and warez0red ROMS"), and neither of them has found the success of even an N-Gage.
(Okay, so the Gizmondo was actually designed mainly to get venture capital to spend on fast cars and fast women, but my point about the GP32 stands.)
The homebr
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
The previous posted was suggesting that Sony encourage homebrew development instead of trying to quash it. There are some seriously talented coders writing homebrew, despite all the interference. That talent could better be used to improve the homebrew, instead of the hacks.
Also, quite a few of the exploits were developed with homebrew in mind, not theft. Sony's theft probably would be eased if they
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
I like brackets.
Re:Push homebrew, maybe? (Score:2)
Speaking of homebrew I hear all sorts of Sony fans going on and on about how the PS3 will run Linux and allow for homebrew games. Maybe I'm missing something but I seriously have to question why they would make the PS3 an open platform when in the past they've done nothing but try to stomp out homebrew efforts like those on the PSP.
DRM Again (Score:5, Funny)
After you pay for it once, you should be able to float it around wherever you want to let it float. Grrrrr
Coinceidence (Score:2)
Huh, that's funny, it turns out I don't want a portable player that media cannot float easily onto. And the content is already floating, so all they've done is make it hard for the mass market to add media to the device - the ones that might think about buying the product.
The day that Sony Games rebels agains
Re:Coinceidence (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, this is the whole problem right here. If Sony hadn't tried to position this thing as a "multimedia" device in the first place, they wouldn't be in this mess at all. And they wouldn't be trying to fight on three different fronts - against both MS and Apple, as well as Nintendo - rather than one. They've set themselves up for failure.
Nintendo is beating them because the DS does o
I think position is less important (Score:2)
I agree wit
Re:Coinceidence (Score:2)
In Japan, the Play-Yan media player has been an official Nintendo product for years, allowing users to listen to MP3's and watch movies on GBA SP and DS systems.
Opera web browser for Nintendo DS is coming out soon.
wow (Score:5, Insightful)
They all want to be Wii (Score:2)
Of course, I love my DS Lite for all other sorts of reasons.
Re:wow (Score:3, Informative)
A $200 controller with a 4.3" 16:9 TFT LCD screen at 480 x 272 pixel and 16.77 million colors. Not to mention built in stereo speakers and headphone jack.
I think this is one thing that consoles could use. Especially with the popularity of things like Madden football, video board / card games, or anything that has multiple players with secret information.
The Dreamcast had the ability to have a display in the controller, and I know t
Re:wow (Score:2)
Not a bad idea, but as history has shown time and again, if it isn't going to be used in every game, then it isn't going to be used. And since taking your eyes off the main screen on any fast-paced game to glance down to your controller for information is probably going to result in you losing, that kills
Re:wow (Score:2)
Hell, even plugged in, the PSP will drain out of power in 10 hours. It's cool to connect it to PS3, but other than that, Nintendo had this in mind long before. I don't know about controlling the Wii via DS, but they will interact. Pretty sweet.
Re:wow (Score:2)
then the USB ports, what was the original intention for them? maybe the ones that made the FPS' to use the keyboard and mouse combo got scolded by sony for not using only the controller.
as for using the PSP as a "really cool feature/option" I say hell no. The console is already $500 or $600 (depending on which one you get) throwing in another $200 "Accessorie" isn't going to appeal to to many game
Re:wow (Score:2)
-Eric
Re:wow (Score:2)
Not only that, but you can use it as a REAR VIEW MIRROR in Gran Turismo!!!
WOW! Where can I get a realistic rear view mirror mount accessory so that I don't have to hold it up with my left hand all the time?
Of course the one thing nobody mentions is that a real rear view mirror doesn't require you to refocus your eyes. I guess if you were playing it on a 20" widescreen LCD TV on a desk, and had the PSP next to the LCD TV, it wouldn't be so bad.
But it really doesn't matter to me, since I went to the "Li
Instrument panel on controller (Score:3, Interesting)
Instead of the common (but fake) driving displays, where the dashboard is magically visible at the bottom of the driver's field of vision, perfectly in focus and clear, make the TV picture nothing but the view out the window, and then put the speedometer/tac
Re:wow (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:wow (Score:2)
mylo could kill it. they should be one product. (Score:3, Interesting)
It's probably plans to release mylo that prompted the crackdown on homebrew games and apps for the PSP. Now that there's little of the PSP's original promise left fulfilled, it's a struggling product. Now they want those of us who laid out $250 for the PSP to repeat the cycle with mylo at $350. I say tough shit, Sony. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I still have a working Betamax VCR, still have a Sony Walkman somewhere, and regularly use my Sony CD boombox from the late 1980s when I'm in the kitchen or the back yard. The Walkman and the CD boombox they got right -- they were interoperable and I could play homebrewed content on them. At least the Betamax I could get blanks for and it would take homebrewed content. I never bought a PS or PS2 but I'd been considering a PS3 or maybe a PS2 for now. At least with the PS2 they paid lip service to homebrew. It was never the homebrew system the Atari 2600 or the Sega Dreamcast were (and heck, still are). Sony says the PS3 will be able to replace a PC. If they think my desktop will be locked in to their vicious vendor lock-in and Sony's planned upgrade cycle, they are sorely mistaken. I'm not dropping that kind of money on another closed hunk of Sony crap.
There will be no mylo and no PS3 in my home unless Sony fixes their "dumb consumer" thinking. I want my purchases to serve my needs and wants, not just theirs. I'll not buy another Sony product until they fix themselves. Right now, Sony is broken and so are all of their products.
Re:mylo could kill it. they should be one product. (Score:2)
I bought a PS2 because it had games I wanted to play. If the PS3 doesn't have games I want to play at a price I want to pay I won't buy one. There's no sense in getting angry over this. Either it's something you want at a price you want to pay or it's not.
It's your choice. Raging against Sony is pointless.
Re:mylo could kill it. they should be one product. (Score:2)
It's probably plans to release mylo that prompted the crackdown on homebrew games and apps for the PSP. Now that there's little of the PSP's original promise left fulfilled, it's a struggling product.
"promise"? Really? Someone promised that you would be able to play homebrews on the PSP? That's news to Sony. Dreams, maybe, but not promise.
Re:mylo could kill it. they should be one product. (Score:2)
off-target (Score:5, Insightful)
And as for the PSP's non-gaming functionalities... You could cut UMD movie prices in half for all I care and there will still be an overflowing stack of unsold discs at the videogame store... and no ammount of add-on peripherals like GPS receivers will save the PSP, since the same devices can be easily developed for any other handheld.
Is it so hard to abide by the rule of Keep It Simple Stupid?
Re:off-target (Score:2)
Excellent post, sir.
Re:off-target (Score:5, Interesting)
Sony fights homebrew, Nintendo doesn't seem to care. Makes the biggest difference for me.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for... (Score:5, Interesting)
I will start out by saying I have the 1.5 firmware and refuse to upgrade. There is a wealth of homebrew emulation and other software out there that really makes this a pretty cool handheld platform. As far as playing newer games that require firmware upgrades, there is an easy and brilliant way around it thanks to the PSP hacking community.
The PSP is great for travel. I could care less about the failure of UMDs. The format was doomed from the start. It is relatively painless to convert existing DVDs to the PSP's format and load them onto a memory stick. I brought a movie with me to watch on the plane on my last business trip, and it was a very enjoyable experience. I also had a few albums loaded onto the same stick to listen to while I was on the road.
The screen is beautiful and great for movies.
Yes, the ergonomics suck for a handheld, it's not perfect.
As far as commercial games go, there are actually enough great games on it to make it a worthwhile platform including tight baseball, some good racers, Tekken, and a decent RPG to name a few. That situation should continue to improve.
I'm not happy with Sony as a company, but I'm pretty happy with my hacked PSP. I'm not sure why so many people are down on the platform; it's got the processing power of close to a PS2 under the hood.
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:2)
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:2)
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:4, Interesting)
It might have something to do with the number of PSP owners who have the wherewithal and the confidence to hack their PSPs without turning them into $200 bricks. If, instead of your PSP, you had a brand new one right off the rack with newer firmware and didn't know how to revert it, would you be able to get the use out of it you're getting out of the one you actually have?
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:3, Insightful)
On the other hand I've just upgraded to a DS Lite from my original DS Phat. I use it all the time especially in conjunction with the GBA
Re:I guess it depends on what you're looking for.. (Score:2)
Which is why Sony is not happy with you!
Easy to define, just ask Engadget! (Score:2)
Trouble with PSP is the UMD (Score:2)
say what? (Score:2)
My reason for selling - online play (Score:4, Insightful)
If the games suck... (Score:3)
Using it as a controller (Score:2, Interesting)
I don't really see how Sony, with it's terribly high priced PS3 and PSP with few games, wou
One thing the PSP is good for: Games (Score:3, Interesting)
Reguardless, it is true. Most technology should not be convergent.
Cons:
Sony Bashing Needs To Stop (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Sony Bashing Needs To Stop (Score:2, Insightful)
Slashdot vs Sony (Score:2)
I'm with you in that. There are more objetive posts on Microsoft Windows Vista than in PSP and PS3 together.
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Overpriced (Score:2)
Ummm... (Score:2)
Shouldn't that be PIMP, not John? Last I checked, sales folks were pimps.
Re:PSPPS3 Integration Very Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Gamecube -- GBA connectivity.
I think we all know how that turned out.
Re:PSPPS3 Integration Very Cool (Score:2)
Yeah, and that's a real shame, too. The few times I've found enough people to play with have been a blast. It's an awesome game.
Re:PSPPS3 Integration Very Cool (Score:2)
As for downloading music and games, you can do that already. There are a wide range of Nike adverts you can spew into your PSP at various WiFi hotspots. If they extend this to something usefu
Re:PSPPS3 Integration Very Cool (Score:2)
Re:Obligitory (Score:3, Funny)
OMG NINTEDO IS tEH SUXXOR!!!! SoNy 4 LIFE!! I CANt WAiT To SpEnD $600 4 GAME SeQUELS WiF PURDIER GRAFIX!!
Re:Obligitory (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Obligitory (Score:5, Funny)
Re:what to use it for? (Score:2)
It does have some decent emulation use. But for those of us who aren't able to download some of those libraries (or just choose not to) it's cheaper to just dust off the old GBA, find a bunch of used games, and check out the NES classics that have been re-released for the GBA.
Don't get me wrong, I believe the PSP to be an excellent homebrew and emulating device. However, it's not that way out of the box, and I doubt that Sony is anxious
Re:what to use it for? (Score:2)
Re:Over-ambitious (Score:2)
As a male turning 34 this year, I for one, will not be lining up to buy a PS3 at launch, post launch, or even at PS4 Launch.
About the only thing I liked about the ps3 is Linux. If it costs more than a PC running Kubuntu than they can keep it. If we can use "the PS2 supports Linux" hype as an example of Sony's Support for Linux. Pass.
Shame, I liked sony equipment once long ago. (Wow that was before their first Vaio PCs)
Re:Wtf? "the lackluster stable of games"?! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Wtf? "the lackluster stable of games"?! (Score:2)
Re:Wtf? "the lackluster stable of games"?! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:XBOX Portable (Score:2)