In2TV Goes Public 99
An anonymous reader writes "It looks like AOL has finally released In2TV, allowing us to watch some of our favorite shows on the internet. It looks fairly promising." In2TV has managed to bag four major advertisers right from the start but if you want to watch on anything but a WindowsXP machine you may be out of luck.
Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:4, Informative)
In2TV is also out of bounds to other alternative browser users inside XP.
Unless you use Internet explorer 6.0 and Media Player 10 you can't watch the big streams.
This obviously rules out Firefox users, so no Babylon 5 for me
You can't even use it on XP 64.
Damn good though, and so far the only thing that has tempted me to install WMP 10...
Hell, I might even use IE for it as well.
tip for Windows users who have removed their IE icon, open "My Computer" and directly enter the URL into the address bar - it converts from Explorer to Internet explorer automagically...
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:3, Informative)
When you go to the site with firefox (after you choose a show). It prompts you to install the Mozilla Firefox ActiveX plugin you might be saved.
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
I hadn't seen anything about that until having a really close look, but if you go here:
http://television.aol.com/in2tv/heroes_horror_tv?d efaultLevel=0&defaultItem=0 [aol.com]
And click on the "HI-Q Video" link in the spotlite, it brings up the error page.
Its only after this (in Internet explorer) that it asks about an ActiveX control.
I believe however the FLASH console hosts the expected ActiveX and th
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
http://television.aol.com/in2tv/heroes_horror_tv [aol.com] in ff and it shows part of the screen that will have the player and controls. In there it says:
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
http://kontikiapp.stream.aol.com/zodiac/servlet/zo diac/template/pub%2Cinstall%2CGetIt.vm/moid/8cba9b d2-9d32-efcc-f56d-ebd94262dafa/m/d7a28aad-1f36-e5c f-8b0e-76a7412d3034/s/kdx/kget/urn:kid:aol_hqv:aol _hiq:moid:8cba9bd2-9d32-efcc-f56d-ebd94262dafa [aol.com] here
The actual message he sees (in case you don't) is http://cdn.digitalcity.com/_media/hiq [digitalcity.com]
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
If its faster in IE I would never know, but it sortof worked for me.
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
Upgrade? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Upgrade? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2)
Second of all, can you imagine getting any content without DRM? Yeah, it's a royal pain for the user, but the content owners won't go near a system that doesn't have it. That's actually another reason for supporting Wind
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:3, Informative)
I sold out.
I installed WMP 10.0
I used Internet Explorer 6.0.
I still can't play this fucking thing (during the licensing for the stream it says "We apologize, this content must be played in the AOL Video Player. Please goto aol.com/video."
Teething trouble, or over complexified DRM?
It looks like a good time to hit the p2p.
I wanna see B5 now damnit, how far off streaming torrents are we?
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2)
Not quite streaming, but...
If you use a client that can set priorities on individual files of a multi-file torrent, you can set the first episode enabled and the rest disabled, then the second when the first is done, and so on. Just don't try do download raw DVD rips of the entire 7 series' of Ranma [wikipedia.org]. Your ISP will not like you.
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2)
Probably quite a long ways, as BitTorrent doesn't require that parts of the file are sent in-order.
As the protocol stands now, to try to improve the overall download situation for everyone in the swarm, BitTorrent attempts to download the rarest file chunks (usually 256KB long) first. This probably isn't the first chunk in the file. Just as the next rarest chunk you download probably isn't the second chunk in the file, etc.
In-order BitT
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:1)
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"></HEAD>
<BODY></BODY></HTML>
But it's HTML 4.0 compliant! At least that's something! Way to go AOL, embracing the standards of 6 years ago!
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:5, Informative)
Core System Requirements
The United States one is more glaring to me (Score:1)
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:3, Informative)
Screen size too small (Score:1)
XP 64 problems, and "automagically" (Score:2)
You can't even use it on XP 64.
Well, I pretty much assumed that. My sister has a 64-bit machine, but we've just decided to run XP Pro on it; once we get around to getting a new hard drive in it that actually has decent size (long story why we didn't in the first place) and install an OS to take advantage of that juicy 64-bittedness, it's certainly not going to dual-boot into XP 64, it's definitely going to be some distro of Linux. I mean, does anything work on XP 64? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if p
Re:Not just Linux and Mac with problems... (Score:2)
Don't waste time (Score:1)
http://www.getdemocracy.com/ [getdemocracy.com]
At least they offer some stuff AOL/TW can't dare to air. Oh, not porn
Brisco County Jr! (Score:2)
Re:Brisco County Jr! (Score:2)
Re:Brisco County Jr! (Score:1)
Help! (Score:4, Funny)
Please.
Re:Help! (Score:2, Funny)
Pointless (Score:5, Funny)
I thought BotTorrent was the first broadband television network?
Re:Pointless (Score:3, Funny)
reasons for missing mac/linux support? (Score:1)
it needs media player 10. but why? because of DRM? copying / recording restrictions? soecial features, codecs? just missing interest in supporting different platforms?
i got to run drm'ed streams using cxoffice plugin in firefox/linux, any chances for me?
Re:reasons for missing mac/linux support? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:reasons for missing mac/linux support? (Score:2)
Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:4, Insightful)
Until they fill that worldwide "analog hole" there's no way this stuff is really going to compete. Even if the US succumbs to pervasive DRM, are they going to stop marketing shows internationally? It seems most of the torrents come from abroad anyway. I once downloaded a "West Wing" episode before it had even appeared on TV in my east coast market.
Thanks to the indie film makers there's already better stuff freely available on the internet than on most of those 500 TV channels, anyway.
Re:Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:1)
It does not have to be that way. Most people have DSL or Cable Modems, and they can get a good resolution video without the stream stopping to rebuffer.
Maybe some shows are slightly less res than television because the provider wants to make money twice. They want to sell it on the internet, and then again on DVD. They have been doing this for a long time. How many DVD's have been re-released multiple times with "special edition" then "directors cut
Re:Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:3, Interesting)
Umm.. not exactly. A majority have access to broadband, but a third of the US still doesn't. And even among those who have broadband access, in most places reasonable broadband speeds are still so expensive most households don't have it. If you're on cable it's a boon, but a good portion of that tiny majority has access only via dsl. While BASIC dsl prices are not too bad (30 bucks around h
Re:Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:1)
You might want to check out Yahoo SBC DSL (if they have it in your area). It is only $12.99 a month for 12 months. For $4 bucks more, they sell a 3meg DSL. It's a much better deal than cable which ripped me a new one with a $100 bill for basic and internet. I got rid of them, and started buying DVD sets, and I came out ahead.
Did you n
Re:Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:2)
I don't have an index of stuff... I just lookk around and find things. Maybe I need to start posting that stuff on a blog somewhere and then others can subscribe to the torrents via my css feed. Hmmmm... do I smell opportunity? Maybe if I was more ambitious - right now I got too much other stuff on my plate.
Anyway, I'm glad
Re:Watch favorite shows on the internet? (Score:1)
I'd be in line to subscribe. And you could make money with adsense or whatever google has going.
The cool thing about the show is I didn't need bit torrent to download. I got rid of that software a
How much does it cost? (Score:1)
I really don't want to instal Media Player 10. I had it on a system, and I just didn't like it compared to Media Player 6. I wonder what good the DRM in 10 is if people can record the video when it plays?
Re:How much does it cost? (Score:2)
I went ahead and installed TCMP and it works just fine.
Re:How much does it cost? (Score:2)
Re:How much does it cost? (Score:2)
Excerpt of the listings (Score:5, Informative)
The shows are organized into six genre-themed channels (with two more to launch this summer), including:
- LOL TV: Laugh Out Loud with everyone's favorite comedies from Welcome Back, Kotter, which made a household name out of John Travolta to the slapstick antics of Cousin Balkai and Larry in Perfect Strangers as well as the Emmy-winning Chico and the Man, Hangin' With Mr. Cooper and Head of the Class.
- Dramarama TV: Fans will enjoy the unaired "lost" pilot of juicy soap Falcon Crest and all the drama of five-time Emmy nominated Sisters, plus there's Scarecrow and Mrs. King, Spenser: For Hire and the family favorite Eight Is Enough.
- Toon Topia TV: Kids and adults alike will flock to animated fare such as Beetlejuice, Steven Spielberg Presents Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid, The New Adventures of Batman, and Histeria!
- Heroes and Horrors TV: Sci-Fi and Horror come together in heroic proportions with Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, Babylon 5, Wonder Woman, V and Freddy's Nightmares.
- What a Rush TV: Rev up for plenty of action-adventure when East meets West in Kung Fu, plus La Femme Nikita, The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr., Dark Justice and The Fugitive.
- Vintage TV: Fans find all-time favorites such as Growing Pains with heartthrob Kirk Cameron, F-Troop, The F.B.I., Maverick and Alice.
Re:Excerpt of the listings (Score:2)
F-Troop? Eight is Enough? Chico and the Man? Where do I sign up????
Good for European viewers? (Score:1)
Re:Good for European viewers? (Score:1)
Re:Good for European viewers? (Score:2)
Firefox is fine (Score:1)
Re:Firefox is fine (Score:1)
Ack (Score:1)
Damn Office Workers (Score:2)
Why is it that only people who are at work can get to watch TV on their computers?
Resolution/Quality? (Score:2)
Seems to work as advertised (Score:4, Insightful)
Overall it's not going to win any awards for design - but it works, and for free I suppose I can't complain too much.
Requires WMP10 though (Score:2)
Security issues aside I guess its nice that they made the effort so that Firefox users can use it.
Too bad it won't work without the UI nightmare that is WMP10. Someone post a WMP9 workaround...
Waste-of-time dept (Score:2)
Re:small image on high res display (Score:1)
Direct link (Score:2)
"Upgrade"?! (Score:2)
To be expected.
But then I notice the title of the window, "AOL Television: In2TV: Upgrade." And in bold letters on, the page says "How to Upgrade" followed by a link to Microsoft's page on Windows XP.
So, I need to "upgrade" my Mac to a Windows machine to
WinXP (Score:3, Funny)
Damn. I was just about to fire up AOL on my Apple ][.
TV over IP really requires Multicast or "Peercast" (Score:2)
I guess that's where the DRM comes in. Nobody will want it, so no problem.
only ads - don't bother installing anything (Score:1)
Re:only ads - don't bother installing anything (Score:1)
Damnit, I want Pinky & The Brain!
Looks like Firefox/Mac might be supported someday (Score:2, Informative)
Anger. (Score:2)
And these companies wonder why things are pirated. When this thing dies a fiery death, they'll sit and scratch their heads and wonder why.
Anger.
AOL stores the high quality files locally! (Score:4, Interesting)
If you look into the service, you can stream the videos for free with nothing but an ActiveX plugin and Macromedia Flash. However, if you want "HighQ" video (what they claim is "DVD Quality"), you have to install a piece of software.
It's basically a BitTorrent ripoff. It's a peer-to-peer upload-as-you-download service. But since the files are stored locally and not streamed, I started poking around. Lo and behold, I found the hiding place for the WMV files!
Download a file with the service, then navigate to:
c:\Documents and Settings\~user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\*random hash*\filename.wmv
Note: You may have to do this at the command prompt, as any attemps I made to get into the "Content.IE5" folder through the GUI were futile. But take a look around, and you'll find all of the WMV files the program uses. Copy them to another directory, and there you have your DRM'd file. The first one I tried was named "PerfectStrangers_Barcode_151772C_1500.wmv~". It plays fine in the standalone WMP10, but not in BSPlayer or MPC. GSpot also doesn't recognize the file.
So there's the source file. Gentlemen, start your cracking!
Small Update (Score:1)
Odd.
Re:Small Update (Score:1)
c:\Documents and Settings\username\Documenti\My Deliveries\kdx\tmpcache\
What disturbes me is that even though I had requirements (except location, I'm in Italy but content got downloaded) it doesnt plays the video (head of the class, I was a kid and I loved that geeky show).
It opens it with the AOL Video player and tells me:
We appologize, this content must be played in the AOL Video Player. Please go to www.aol.com/video
How crappy is that?
Re:Small Update (Score:2)
Re:Small Update (Score:1)
Freakin' Freddy's Nightmares! (Score:1)
And they got V too! Another Freddy/Robert Englan
Animaniacs and Tiny Toons (Score:2)
AOL hasn't always used totally closed video format (Score:2)
Re:AOL hasn't always used totally closed video for (Score:2)
Re:AOL hasn't always used totally closed video for (Score:2)
Re:AOL hasn't always used totally closed video for (Score:2)
.NSV = AOL proprietary format (kinda) (Score:1)
Re:AOL hasn't always used totally closed video for (Score:2)
If they used Realmedia or Quicktime (Score:2)
They could offer same content to mobile platforms too.
Or same goes for Quicktime which they DEVELOP the content on.
I guess another "code/invent nothing, just spread spyware lie and bribe content providers" wmedia lame dominance strategy from MSFT.
United States Only (Score:1)
Re:United States Only (Score:1)
Can someone give us a clue?