Top 25 Innovations of the Past 25 Years 624
HarvardAce writes "CNN has just released a list of 24 of the top 25 innovations of the past 25 years. Most of them are things we use every day in life, such as cell phones (#2), PCs (#3), and e-mail (#5). CNN won't release the #1 innovation until Sunday, January 18 at 8pm EST (Monday, Jan 19 @ 1AM GMT), so I wanted to see if Slashdot users could come up with what they think the #1 innovation is and comment on the rest of the list."
#1 will be... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:#1 will be... (Score:5, Funny)
Tough call...
The George Foreman Grilling Machine (Score:4, Funny)
Arrrgggghhhh! How could I have so foolishly said The World Wide Web? It's nothing compared to the tasty wholesome lean goodness of a George Foreman Grilling Machine grilled burger!
Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine (Score:2)
just don't say it's a novelty item, you'll really piss him off!
Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The George Foreman Grilling Machine (Score:4, Funny)
I've heards rumours of a George Foreman file system...
Re:#1 will be... (Score:2, Insightful)
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IAWTP (Score:3, Interesting)
Or is this another excuse for hypnotic television:
#1 Rule of profitable television - do not offend the advertised
#2 Rule of profitable television - do not challenge the viewer
#3 Rule of profitable television - pander to the viewer'
Re:IAWTP (Score:3, Insightful)
PCs are not required for the internet to function. Almost any consumer good that you purchase now has a version with internet connectivity; these range from the obvious, cellular telephones, to the not so obvious, washer/dryer, oven, refrigerator, etc...
PCs just happened to be the first such item that most individuals used to connect to the internet. The internet itself is far more valuable to society than just a forum
Rules of Slasdot: Profit!!!! (Score:2)
Re:#1 will be... (Score:2)
If they say the Web or the Internet then they'ld [sic] be wrong. The internet was started 35 years ago by DARPA. . .
Not necessarily. Yes, the internet was invented 35 years ago, but so were hearing aids. Modern hearing aids are on there so, a Modern internet could also be on the list.
Read the article (Score:4, Insightful)
The net most certainly falls into that category.
But one thing though... (Score:3, Informative)
But you have to admit one thing though: the real explosion of Internet use started in the fall of 1995, when Windows 95 with its built-in SLIP/PPP networking stack gave PC compatible users easy access to the Internet for the first time (Windows 3.1 could access the Internet using third-party addons, but given the nature of computer users that was still relatively
Re:#1 will be... (Score:5, Informative)
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And while it's probably true that NCP as it existed wasn't adequate, TCP/IP is rather kludgey too for today's use. It is there because of inertia and religious support for it (people worship it as if it were handed to Moses on Sinai).
Re:#1 will be... (Score:4, Informative)
Al Gore never claimed to _invent_ the internet. He did claim some credit for _creating_ the internet.
This article [perkel.com] gives the real story.
Essentially Gore provided political backing for the Internet which allowed it to become what we know today.
Among the quotes in the article:
According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by [Gore in his current role as Vice President] and in his earlier role as Senator."
The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."
Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"
Re:#1 will be... (Score:2)
Re:#1 will be... (Score:3, Insightful)
Microchips were invented after 1980?
Re:#1 will be... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:#1 will be... (Score:5, Funny)
The Spork! (Score:2, Funny)
They hype continues (Score:3, Funny)
Re:#1 *should* be... (Score:3, Interesting)
Or, perhaps, a related technology like gene therapy.
Re:#1 will be... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:#1 will be... (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, the net has a lot of stuff, but try finding it without google, yahoo, etc.
Re:#1 will be... (Score:3, Funny)
Print up your card from here [perkigoth.com]
For those who don't get it:
Ummmm.... (Score:2)
www? (Score:2)
Retarded CNN (Score:3, Interesting)
Was the voting done by 13 year old boys? (Score:2)
-JT
segway (Score:3, Funny)
Re:segway (Score:4, Funny)
CNN (Score:2)
Seriously "The World Wide Web" is a pretty good bet, the have only listed email so far.
Re:CNN (Score:2)
Or, for something that Joe public would recognise, how about Central door locking for cars?
Re:CNN (Score:2)
Sorry, but that's been around for much more than 25 years. I've ridden in 60's Cadillacs with central locking doors.
Boo on this list. (Score:5, Interesting)
Excuse me? PCs are VERY important and probably deserving of #3 but to say that HDTV and Plasma are in the top 100 is pushing it.
I have only seen HDTV at stores and on display at the state fair (I'm relatively unimpressed). I know one single person that has it and he uses it through DirecTV. I don't know a single person that owns a Plasma screen and I really don't think that they are terribly important.
HDTV is a bunch of tax-funded bullshit that's going to bring down the right to record as you choose. Media conglomorates aren't going to want you to have digitized recordings of high-def format because then you can compete with their DRMd discs.
Boo on this list.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more (Score:5, Interesting)
I own two HDTVs, an Hitachi rear projection CRT set and a Sony HS-20 front project or for my living room. Combined with a decent DD 5.1 sound and a home theater really does compete with commercial movie theaters. In Boston every broadcast station is now digital; that's ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, FOX, UPN, and WC. I actually get more HD content from broadcast than DirecTV (I have DirectTV too). HBO and Showtime in HD is pretty damn nice. Widescreen aspect ration is very damn nice! Uhhh... whether HDTV is the greatest consumer invention since sliced bread, I don't know. But... I like it!
HDTV is a bunch of tax-funded bullshit that's going to bring down the right to record as you choose. Media conglomorates aren't going to want you to have digitized recordings of high-def format because then you can compete with their DRMd discs.
Uhhh... just so we're clear: HDTV display technology and broadcast standards are different from the political policies being pursued by media conglomerates in their attempt to limit consumer freedom. Right? HDTV deployment does not mandate the consumer limitation by politcial fiat. --M
Re:Wow, I couldn't disagree more (Score:2)
NO, HDTV is NOT good for the consumer.
So you're claiming that HDTV is "NOT good for the consumer" because consumers will have to buy a set top box (or migrate to cable) after a certain point within the next few upcoming years? Just how else would you handle a nationwide migration so large as this? The migration to digital requires a cutoff point where everyone who wants to watc
Re:Boo on this list. (Score:2)
How important is HDTV really to *most* Americans?
Boo to that list, indeed!
And airbags? (Score:4, Funny)
Well this is CNN (Score:5, Funny)
iPod (Score:5, Funny)
Re:iPod (Score:2)
RFID (Score:5, Interesting)
From the article: In creating the list, the group hoped to single out "25 non-medically related technological innovations that have become widely used since 1980, are readily recognizable by most Americans, have had a direct and perceptible impact on our everyday lives, and/or could dramatically affect our lives in the future
Is RFID really recognisable by most Americans?
Re:RFID (Score:2)
The World Wide Web (Score:2)
I also noted that Magnetic Resonance Imaging wasn't in the article. That technology changed surgery.
Re:The World Wide Web (Score:2)
#1 is the Segway (Score:2)
Remember, these are journalists they don't admit mistakes.
#1 innovation (Score:2)
The Fleshlight! Super-tight, just like prom night.
The Internet (Score:2)
RDS Radio (Score:3, Interesting)
Other inovations I would have expected, would be Digital Radio and Digital TV. But they aren't as common as RDS because they are newer.
Re:RDS Radio (Score:2)
Re:RDS Radio (Score:2)
Re:RDS Radio (Score:2)
But, I keep hearing about satelitte radio here on
Re:RDS Radio (Score:2)
Since they can't say the internet (too old)... (Score:2)
#1 will be search engines (Score:5, Insightful)
They make the web, newgroups, etc useful.
"Google it" :-)
The finest operating system on earth (Score:2)
Amen. (Score:2)
I'm not sure that NetBSD is the #1 technical innovation in the last 25 years, but it's pretty damn nice.
I'm happily running NetBSD 2.0 with my Netgear WG311T wireless card, and I was pleasantly surprised at how seemless the whole process was. (Finding the right card was the trick).
In any case, NetBSD never fails to impress me with its professional polish.
-Peter
What is wrong here (Score:3, Insightful)
Hm, in 1978 I remember using a Commodore PET PC. I believe Apple IIs also existed in 1978... BSD was there also with uuget and uuput and we bundled mail for nightly transmission. 2005 - 1978 == 27 years.
Can it be the internet? (Score:2)
I could see them doing something like "commercialized internet" like they did for GPS.
Re:Can it be the internet? (Score:2)
I could see them doing something like "commercialized internet" like they did for GPS.
Email is pretty much the same age as Internet, which is closer to 35 than 25 years.
On the other hand, innovation means roughly the same thing as commercialization, I think...
3-blade razor (Score:2)
Re:3-blade razor (Score:3, Funny)
obviously... (Score:2)
Windows.
After all, Microsoft does nothing but innovate, right?
DVD's will be number one. (Score:4, Insightful)
As HDTV made it and DVDs were invented in the past 25 years (and this is CNN, not Nature) it'll be #1.
Re:DVD's will be number one. (Score:2)
Oh, I know... (Score:2)
jeff
What I don't see... (Score:2)
Is the VCR. Granted, I'm pretty sure it was developed for home use before 1979, but it certainly didn't become widespread until the 1980s.
20. Space shuttle ??? (Score:2, Insightful)
Ok, I have to call bullshit here. The space shuttle does not have much of an impact on our lives. Other than being a drain of tax money, of course.
It's old and obsolete technology, so it won't have much of an effect on our future either. These days, it doesn't inspire anyone anymore either. I can get excited about SpaceShip one, but about the next shuttle mission? Give me
#1 The vibrator (Score:2)
The vibrator is way older than 25 years (Score:3, Interesting)
Another interesting article from Wired titled "Love Machines" can be found here [wired.com].
an entire category is missing. (Score:2)
of course, they'll pick the web. but what about military applications, that are missing from the list? the american military has driven technology in to nearly incomprehensible realms, and they seem only to get recognition for doing so once the products are mainstreamed.
Military technology? Meh. (Score:2)
Strange use of the word innovation (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, portable computers (3) have not been 'innovative' in the usual sense of the word - its been a long slow evolution over decades, from small-screened 'luggables' in the early 1980s.
#1 must be slashdot, right? :) (Score:2)
Obviously 1st place innovation (Score:5, Funny)
Email? (Score:2)
Sure, it's been around for more than 25 years, but as others have pointed out, that wasn't the criteria.
Last I checked, it was still the top Internet application.
If #1 is not an Internet application, then my guess will be microwave burritos.
Chinese cargo ship (Score:2, Funny)
I think the CNN list is a bit lame, and some of the timings to make it within the 25 years are questionable.
Also to lump in Flash memory with CD technology is ... well wrong !
regards
dbcad7
No, it's not "nanotech" (Score:5, Informative)
No, it's not. It's an accelerometer made in an IC fab. That's not atomic-level engineering. Not even close. By IC standards, it's huge.
The "nanotechnology" label is getting out of hand. It used to apply to concepts for elaborate structures made atom by atom. Now that funding is available, it's used to refer to finely ground particles.
The list sucks (Score:5, Interesting)
10) RFID tags. Given that RFID is still mostly smoke and mirrors, is it reasonable to call it a major innovation of the past 25 years? Maybe 10 years from now we'll think so, but it doesn't belong on this year's list.
11) MEMS. What? No! VLSI is vastly more important than MEMS, and it didn't even make the list. Besides, MEMS is little more than a pit stop on the road to nanotech.
19) HDTV. HDTV is not a top innovation of any year, let alone a top innovation of the past 25. It was a committee-designed system haphazardly thrown together that has yet to make any meaningful impact on everyday life.
21) Nanotech. Nanotech will be an amazing innovation if it ever gets here, but is it fair to call something that's still mostly science fiction a top innovation of the past 25 years?
24) Modern hearing aids. Yes, they're better, but its evolutionary not revolutionary.
25) Short Range, High Frequency Radio. Uh yeah. This is not an innovation. Its a category of innovations like digital radio, spread spectrum, 802.11 and cordless phones.
And of course, #1 will be the World Wide Web. Since they've seperated email from the Internet, they'll seperate that as well.
But, having split out the Internet into its components the panel has failed badly in missing TCP/IP v4 from 1981, clearly a critical innovation of the past 25 years. Vastly more important than HDTV.
Some errors IMO (Score:5, Informative)
The PC is a product of the late 70's too. The Apple II, Atari and Commodore PET all were released in 78-79.
So # 3 & 20 are 70's
Air bags date to the 60's but is the footdragging by and reluctance of goverments to make the car makers use them innovation? NO
Strike number 13 too.
So it down to 22.
The Real #1 Innovation (Score:5, Funny)
Fake breasts ....
Think about it for a minute. Without fake breasts we would never have had Bay Watch. Without Bay Watch, David Hasselhoff would have been a has-been alcoholic actor rather than an alcoholic actor in the twilight of a mediocre career in television. What a crying shame that would have been.
HDTV and Plasma Screens common place??? (Score:3, Insightful)
The Integrated Circuit (Score:3, Insightful)
Cheers,
Adolfo
Oh GOD!!! Can I take it back??? (Score:3, Funny)
Cheers,
Adolfo
Sony Walkman (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:frogs post (Score:2)
Re:frogs post (Score:3, Insightful)
Search engines will be #1. Without them, the signal-to-noise ratio of the net would be higher than here on slashdot.
Re:The Web, not the Internet (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:Not that important (Score:2)
Need to write something to kill 20 seconds.......
Re:Digital music.... no damn. (Score:2, Insightful)
I suppose you mean that it has changed the way lots of people think about whether or not they can get away with stealing property?
Re:Duh! (Score:2)
Google etc... you use it every day, and it's so useful that you can't even imagine the net without it, but it's so natural that you don't even notice it.
Re:Duh! (Score:2)
Re:Duh! (Score:2)
Without Yahoo, Google, and other indexers, the internet would have choked on its own growth, instead of exploding.
Do an experiment - try to find something WITHOUT using a search engine.
Re:Duh! (Score:2)
Also, if the whole internet were to disapear except for google, it would still work, until google's cached copy disappears.
Re:#1 invention (Score:2, Funny)
Re:#13 is wrong (Score:2)
Re:The iPod WHAT ELSE? (Score:3, Funny)