

Wanna Buy a Reusable Rocket for 19k USD? 153
Anonymous Coward writes with story from the Mainchi Daily News: "'Earlier this month,
Hokkaido University started putting its Camui rockets on the open market. Camui rockets are true rockets, being 1.6 meters long, flying at 300 meters per second and parachuting slowly to the ground after reaching heights of up to 1 kilometer.' The Camui use a mixture of fixed fuel acrylic and liquid oxygen."
Be sure to read the fine print: (Score:5, Funny)
"Not recommended for use near airports or presidential motorcades."
Re:Be sure to read the fine print: (Score:2)
Re:Be sure to read the fine print: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Be sure to read the fine print: (Score:5, Funny)
So is marriage.
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Or just having little kids.
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I mean, come on, if they're going to ban model rockets like Estes (and their engines), how long until they do the same with these?
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1 [sas.org]
2 [space.com]
And I'm sure Google has even more info on it. I haven't seen anything new on it, so I have no idea what has happened since then. I haven't seen any new complaints, but I also haven't seen anything to indicate people being happy it didn't pass, so...
Re:Be sure to read the fine print: (Score:2)
Wikipedia Article [wikipedia.org]
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But then again, a model rocket engine isn't very fancy- if you've got a burnt out one for a model, it's not that hard to reload with a sugar/amonium nitrate mixture.
Not first post :-( (Score:1, Funny)
WMD? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:WMD? (Score:3, Interesting)
Bonfire night (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Bonfire night (Score:1)
How are these going to be re-usable after they've been blown into a multi-cloloured explosion?
Camui rockets suck (Score:5, Funny)
In addition, during this file transfer, the guidance system will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even GPS is straining to keep up as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various Camuis, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Camui that has run faster than its Boeing counterpart, despite the Camui's faster propellant architecture. My hobby kit model rocket with helicopter nose cose runs faster than this 300m/s rocket at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the Camui is a superior machine.
Camui addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Camui over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:4, Funny)
Might be a possible candiate for a new "space speed record" for data.
+2 informative? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:+2 informative? (Score:1)
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:1)
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:1)
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:1)
I would just like to ask the idiots who modded this +2 interesting how a rocket can copy things between folders on its harddrive.
This is a copy/paste troll thats been around for ages. Fucking read the comment before you mod it next time...
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:3, Funny)
http://www.pakin.org/complaint?firstname=Camui& p gr aphs=10&gender=c
"The purpose of this letter is to outline a plan to rise to the challenge of thwarting Camui's money-grubbing, vile plans. Let's review the errors in Camui's statements in order. First, Camui's use of acrimonious scrubs is unquestionably pathetic. I do not find warnings that are stingy, sexist, and impolitic to be "funny"
Re:Camui rockets suck (Score:1)
regulations (Score:4, Interesting)
With so much airtraffic is not a danger?
Can be this technology used for making weapons? I remember the article of someone building cruise missiles: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/09/205252.shtm
Seems very nice, but I would not like a plane shot down because a rich kid was playing with one of this toys.
Second Amendment (Score:2)
Re:Second Amendment (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Second Amendment (Score:2)
Hmmm... maybe I should stop being ironic and maybe I should not have seen Outfoxed (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418038/) last night.
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CC.
Re:regulations (Score:3, Interesting)
Still, if I were a terrorist I wouldn't be looking to buy some proper rocket system. Over the counter fireworks seem like a great way to dump anthrax spores over a wide area. Do it at an event like bonfire night, July 4, New Years Eve etc. and you'd probably have a nice crowd of people standing under
Re:regulations (Score:2)
1. when the firework is launched...how are you going to package it so the sports don't "burn up"
2. when the firework explodes, how do you protect the spores?
Grump
Re:regulations (Score:3, Informative)
Re:regulations (Score:2, Funny)
Sir, the affordable Camui range is aimed at the masses so your plane is much more likely to be brought down by missiles fired by kids from lower income families.
I trust this allays your fears.
Camui Marketing Director
Re:regulations (Score:2, Informative)
The air traffic is not really an issue, even near a airports. It's hard to hit an airplane with a rocket. That's why military missles are guided and typically use some sort of proximity fuse and explosive warhead. Those guidance systems and warheads with pr
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Re:regulations (Score:2, Informative)
Wanna Buy a Reusable Rocket for 19k USD? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wanna Buy a Reusable Rocket for 19k USD? (Score:2)
why is this here? (Score:5, Interesting)
Why is this a story? Someone deisgned and constructed an overpriced, hard to use, liquid fuel rocket that can be outperformed by a twenty year old Estes and is offering copies of it for sale, but no one has been stupid enough to buy one yet. This is news?
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Re:why is this here? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:why is this here? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:why is this here? (Score:2)
59 km, to be precise.
Re:why is this here? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:why is this here? (Score:2)
Judging from the pictures on the same website, the rocket looks fairly simple except, perhaps, for the liquid fuel system. With the low cost of materials and labor in Asia, I wonder why this r
Re:why is this here? (Score:3, Funny)
Yes, but Japanese are short so 1 km probably seems much more impressive to them.
To summarize (Score:5, Funny)
On road costs (Score:3, Insightful)
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IN OTHER NEWS: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:IN OTHER NEWS: (Score:1, Redundant)
OMFG, I just realised this could just be true (and insightful)....Hey Jimbo, go run check on the tarp ....
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That's OK. You have no oil in your backyard so you're perfectly safe, just like North Korea.
Re:IN OTHER NEWS: (Score:1, Offtopic)
No. Where's that? Do they have oil?
Re:IN OTHER NEWS: (Score:1)
We should all chip in, buy a couple and send them to Iraq so W can find justification for the invasion.
Well, then again, it'd look a bit silly since he changed the reason so many times since.
One most important question! (Score:5, Funny)
Wanna build a reuseable rocket for 20 bucks USD? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Wanna build a reuseable rocket for 20 bucks USD (Score:1, Offtopic)
pictures ... (Score:5, Informative)
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I can buy God for only $19,000?
Re:pictures ... (Score:1)
"Camui" is a traditional Japanese male child name.
Ainu (Score:4, Informative)
The real significance of this project is that it's probably about the last time anyone names anything in Ainu, the old language of Japan...
Re:Ainu (Score:2)
Re:Ainu (Score:1, Troll)
It will go absolutely perfectly... (Score:3, Funny)
Within Three Seconds? (Score:5, Interesting)
I Googled for "Camui rockets", to see if the whole "1 km" deal was true. From what I read, this article was taken from an AP article, which originally read:
"The Camui-50P rocket was developed by a team from Hokkaido University and can fly as high as one kilometer (0.6 mile) within three seconds after take off"
Dunno if that means "that's as high as it gets" or "that's how high it can get within that short amount of time"; for $19,000, though, let's hope it's the second one.Re:Within Three Seconds? (Score:4, Informative)
If the fuel is cut there:
vf^2=vo^2-2*a*s or 1000^2/(2*9.8)=50km
That sounds a bit better. Loki Darts [designation-systems.net] could do that.
Re:Within Three Seconds? (Score:1)
from the article:
In June 1963, the XRM-82 was redesignated as PWN-1A.
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All this talk of rocketry is cool, and I think I'm gonna start looking into it more, and hopefully get my own.
Re:Within Three Seconds? (Score:2)
reaching heights of up to 1 kilometer.. (Score:4, Funny)
What makes this a "True Rocket?" (Score:5, Informative)
The latitude and longtitude of the bios writers .. (Score:2)
Re:The latitude and longtitude of the bios writers (Score:2)
When you program a ballistic missilie you need target lattitude, longitude and altitude even if it is not an air burst.
SASE (Score:2)
Wanna buy a re-usable rocket for 19k (Score:2, Informative)
Acrylic (Score:1)
Playboy magazine? (Score:3, Funny)
?? So I am not the only one who reads the articles?
Lets think seriously:
1: When does linux get installed
2: What kind of imaging can we expect
3: Some more money than sense geek gonna hack us up a nice GPS tracking and imaging softwqare with gyro compass and GIS based ground sensing auto navigation?
Neat.
Real Rockets! (Score:5, Interesting)
One kilometer?? DEBI [erau.edu] was a real rocket. [pictures [erau.edu]] About 30 feet long, two stage solid fuel. With 40 G's acceleration it reached mach 10 in a little under 30 seconds (below 40km altitude) and sailed to a apogee of about 800km. Since the rocket had a ballistic trajectory we needed clearance through the pentagon to circumvent the anti-ballistic missle treaty.
Even little baby Loki Dart's [designation-systems.net] will reach 50km on a good day.
Link (Score:2)
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/10/05/explorers.rock
Innuendo (Score:1)
Very Interested.. (Score:1)
Osama
1 km? For 19k dollars? (Score:1)
Vituous cycle, New Markets (Score:2)
In another article today on Burt Rutan (link [yahoo.com]), he talked about how "Lockheed and Boeing will be making very low-cost access to space hardware within 20 years. They just don't know it yet...because they're going to have to."
We're just starting down the path where lower costs allow new users into a market, which increases sales volumes, which further reduces pr
But what about my car ? (Score:1)
I mean, it's not a JATO unit, but it would still be one hell of a ride before I hit that canyon wall
First Hamsternaut? (Score:1)
When the new police station/courthouse opened in town, it had one of those air-delivery mail systems, like your bank's drive-up teller window. Within two weeks, the newspaper printed an article that some people had been disciplined for sending a hamster all around the building!
kM
Talk about overpriced (Score:2, Informative)
Naaah, I'll wait for Rutan to release a home-built (Score:1)
"And you're going to do WHAT with that tanker truck full of NO2 and those old tires in your backyard?"
Only 1 Kilometer? (Score:2)
One kilometer is 3280 feet. I've taken my homebuilt airplane (RV-7 [vansaircraft.com]) to 18,000 ft (5.48 kilometers, the highest allowed in VFR flight) several times still showing 500 fpm climb and other RV builders with setups similar to mine have made it to 25,900 ft. (7.59 kilometers) [hiwaay.net]
This rocket costs 2.1 million Yen is $20,000 US dollars. A finished RV will cost you about twice that but it'll get you a lot
ObSimpsons (Score:2)
Homer: [thoughtfully] Hokkaido, eh?
Re:Ah, that's tame. (Score:1)
Nuke Supermarket [telegraphindia.com]
Re:Ah, that's tame. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why do they offer these (Score:2)
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Model rocketry is no exception. There were several stories a few months back regarding the US Government banning or limiting the sales of certain types of rocket motors for this very reason. The outrage rung far and wide;-)
So when you put a post up here, advocating an extremely unpopular decision, you g
Re:Why do they offer these (Score:2)
Thanks,
-A
Re:Why do they offer these (Score:2)
The only difference between an AK-47 and every other rifle that wasn't banned during the assault weapons ban is the way it looks and it's name. The AK-47s that are legal now are 7.62mm semi-automatic rifles, just like other ones that were perfectly legal during the ban.
Read the assault weapons ban sometime. It's stupid.
Re:Why do they offer these (Score:2)
Ah boy...first of all, the manufature and import of new automatic weapons to the US for civilian sale has been illegal since 1986. As a result, legal automatic weapons are very expensive now (at least $10k). On top of that, if I remember right only about 100 or 150 fully automatic AK-47s were ever