

SCO gets $50 Million Investment 491
sjbe writes "It was announced today that SCO received $50 million in private equity funding. The lead investor is BayStar Capital which has invested in Roxio among other companies. This gives SCO a pretty big war chest to fight IBM. Before this investment SCO only had a few million in cash remaining. If you thought SCO was annoying before, this won't help."
$50 million? (Score:2)
Re:$50 million? (Score:2)
Re:$50 million? (Score:2)
Or put differently, they can now pay a lot of
lawyers.
$50 million is the max they invest... (Score:2)
"BayStar Capital invests in a broad range of small and medium capitalization growth companies including, but not limited to: technology, telecommunications and life sciences. Capital needs of $5 to $50 million are targeted towards acquisitions, product development, marketing or sales expansion, or as a bridge to a public offering."
So from this bit we can see they are putting every penny they can into SCO. Also they now own 17.5% non-voting shares of SCO
SCO market cap is 283 million (Score:2)
but maybe not. If we assume that SCO wins their suit id guess its worth about 2 billion dollars over a several years, maybe more. 18% of a 2 billion dollars revenue (less virtually nil in expenses) is 260 million, or basically a 5 to one profit
Re:18% in non-voting stock!?!? (Score:3, Informative)
I'm curious about what kind of person would buy 18% of a company with the stipulation that they would have *NO* say in how that company is run.
By definition, preferred stock does not give the buyer a voice in the way the company is run. It does, however, get preferential treatment if the corporation folds. AIR (and it has been a long time), owners of preferred stock are reimbursed at face value when the company disolves. My guess (see disclaimer above) is that in this deal, the buy-back value is fixed som
Re:$50 million? (Score:2)
Re:$50 million? (Score:2, Informative)
i mean - msft's revenue crushes IBM, at a whopping 32.19B.
oh wait, back up, reverse that... IBM does nearly 3x the revenue of MSFT.
IBM is *the* big boy... and they've been itching to pay msft back for a while now...
Re:$50 million? (Score:2)
Nice that Forward Looking Statements are required (Score:2)
This is one of the few cases where "third-party" is just too singular-sounding for the thousands of parties it applies to. But at least they are stating the obvious.
Re:Nice that Forward Looking Statements are requir (Score:2)
"These statements involve risks and uncertainties. The Company wishes to advise readers that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements. The Company has a history of unprofitability and has only realized revenue from its SCOsource licensing initiative during the last two quarters and the intellectual property rights that it is asserti
boycott all companies sharing funding! (Score:2)
How can we finally kill this thing? I'm getting so sick of all this!
sco.slashdot.org (Score:2)
more money? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Scum. (Score:2)
Re:Scum. (Score:2)
Re:Scum. (Score:2)
There is only one way to deal with this... (Score:2)
It's actually good news if you don't like SCO (Score:5, Informative)
From the PR:
The investment in SCO was structured as a private placement of non-voting Series A Convertible Preferred Shares, convertible into common equity at a fixed conversion price of $16.93 per share, which was the average closing bid price for the Company's common stock for the five previous trading days prior to the date of closing.
As someone else pointed out (but didn't get modded up since this is a site for tech geeks, not financial geeks), SCO has more than likely received what is generally known as "Death Spiral Financing." If BayStar believed in SCO, and SCO thought it had a future, the conversion price would have certainly been higher than the "average closing bid of the last trading days..."
Here's how BayStar makes money:
For those who aren't familar with shorting, this means borrowing stock you don't own to sell to someone else. You get the money, but you will have to give the stock back in the future, since it is borrowed. What you are anticipating is that the share price will go down, so you can buy the shares back for less than you got for them. Profit!!! The danger is the that stock will go up, which you means you will have to pay more than you originally got, causing a loss to you. So why is BayStar doing this? Easy, SCO just gave them enough shares to "cover their" short position. If the stock goes up, BayStar is covered. If it goes down, Profit!!! This is a big SHORT bet by BayStar. If SCO wasn't desperate, they could have told BayStar the conversion price is $20/share for example, something higher than the current average price when the deal was signed.
This most likely signals the beginning of the end of SCO.
Mod parent up! (Score:2)
Re:It's actually good news if you don't like SCO (Score:3, Informative)
The SCO convertibles have a fixed conversion ratio. It is true that buyers of such convertibles will short to stock to hedge their position, but a fixed convertible will only hedge a fixed sized short position. A variable convertible can hedge an exponentially increasing short position.
Re:It's actually good news if you don't like SCO (Score:3, Insightful)
you are shorting it at the same time? There is
no point.
Unless they are hedging their put options. (does
sco have options?)
Re:It's actually good news if you don't like SCO (Score:3, Insightful)
If you short the amount you hold all you are doing is protecting your capital amount. What you win on the shorts is what you lose on the shares and vice versa.
So unless there is something else I think the original post misses the point.
Re:It's actually good news if you don't like SCO (Score:3, Informative)
This is just a normal PIPE (private investment in public equity).
I don't think we know that yet. The S1 hasn't been filed yet.
See the comment by be2weenthelines on the Groklaw [groklaw.net]
Worst-case scenario (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Worst-case scenario (Score:2)
Heck, their market cap is $275 million, so you could look at t
Re:Worst-case scenario (Score:2)
Re:Worst-case scenario (Score:2)
Re:Worst-case scenario (Score:2)
That is, if, and that's a big IF, they were at all interested in pursuing product-based revenue streams.
Good ... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Good ... (Score:2)
BTW, I don't think IBM will get any of that $50 mil. It will all be gone...taken by lawyers and CEOs cars/vacation homes.
On a side note, I wasn't really in the industry when the whole BSD/Unix lawsuit took place. I do know that the reason we have Microsoft Server today is that the lawsuit scared companie
Re:Good ... (Score:3, Insightful)
This was what I was thinking too. * And * now the SCO execs have some people with pretty serious investments in their company that they are going to be accountable to. If I was in McBride, I would try to be accountable to as few people as possible -- because when you're hauled before court and it's exposed that your company has no product, provides no services and has tried to manipulate investors using unjustified, false claims, the last thing you wan
Sweet? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Sweet? (Score:2)
Now I get it... (Score:2, Funny)
SCO, owner of Unix (Score:2, Insightful)
Was SCO ever legally determined to own Unix? I can't keep track of the things that SCO claims to legally own anymore.
Huzzah! (Score:2)
Re:Huzzah! (Score:2)
But for those that read the transcript of the Darl interview posted on /. recently, SCO won't inform the Linux community what code is [supposedly] violating SCO's copyright. This is being don
Re:Huzzah! (Score:2)
Proof isnt needed.
Even if SCO is right and there is code in linux that SCO is not allowed to distribute, SCO is still not allowed to charge for other peoples copyrighted work.
Feedback? (Score:2)
How about we fire off a few emails to their contact address.
info@baystarcapital.com
Re:Feedback? (Score:2)
This is so irresponsible (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:This is so irresponsible (Score:2)
In fact, children do not starve due to lack of food.
They starve because their country's government either withholds it, or is so inefficient it cannot properly feed its citizens.
There's more than enough food to feed everyone on the planet, but a lot of it ends up going to waste.
Re:This is so irresponsible (Score:2)
$50 million just buys another tank.
These kids are most certainly not starving because of a lack of funds, and it's not a very valid point if you take 5 minutes to Google it.
Unless, of course, you're in favour of spending $50 million to overthrow some third world governments, but that would just get the US in trouble again
Re:This is so irresponsible (Score:2)
The money that goes to SCO isn't going to just evaporate. When money is spent on something it ends up back in the system. When SCO drains their funds on legal fees and crack or whatever they spend money on, that money gets put back into the economy and may eventually one day
Another FC candidate gets VC funding.... (Score:2)
Re:Another FC candidate gets VC funding.... (Score:2)
Merry Christmas.... (Score:3, Funny)
Cui bono (Score:5, Interesting)
Answer that question, and it will probably become obvious why they would be willing to "waste" $50 million.
SCO is just a foot soldier in a war that is being fought by Microsoft and associated proprietary software firms against the adoption of Linux as the dominant Operating System for the next century.
They are buying time, for one thing. Every day this FUD campaign drags on, slows the rate at which corporations switch their infrastructure to Linux. For all that those in the know realize what a crock of steaming shit this is, the courts are unpredictable at best, and PHB's are a conservative lot. Many won't bet their future on an OS which is the subject of litigation because they cannot be certain of the outcome.
SCO will die. But that's what foot soldiers do. Meantime, those pushing them forward are happy to lend them all the resources they need to prolong the fight.
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
On the plus side, this means that we are long past the point where proprietary corporations see us a threat and to the point where they start seeing us as a true revolution.
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
Name a company that can afford to just throw away $50 million, and hates Linux.
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
http://www.piratenet.com/index2.html
I was just watching the Preview for "Bludd".
It made me laugh.
This is another one of BayStar's investments.
Re:Cui bono (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
See page 3: Top ten investors in BayStar:
Microsoft Corporation is listed as having about a half billion dollars invested.
Re:Cui bono (Score:2)
Care to do more than just insinuate?
More fine investing with my retirement funds (Score:2)
I just found
cold fusion -- 100 million please (Score:2)
Please send a check or money order to...
oh wait... damn, never mind.
More Jail time for Daryl et al (Score:4, Funny)
They are trafficing.
not sure this will help them with IBM.. (Score:2)
All depends on the odds... (Score:2, Interesting)
DB apparently thinks the odds are between 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 that they'll win. They see a $180 per share upside if SCO wins, but a zero value if they lose. So, if you look at it as P(win) * $180 + (1-P(win) * 0) = their target of $45. So, P(win) is 1/4.
Alternately, you can look at it as either $30 upside (from ~$15
Roxio is shit and so is SCO (Score:2)
Probably the Usual Suspects (Score:2, Insightful)
Kaaa-Ching (Score:2)
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http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/management/0,3 9 02 0654,39115337,00.htm
"We have an authorised capital of 45,000,000 shares of Common Stock, par value $0.001 per share... Our board of directors has authority, without action or vote of the shareholders, to issue all or part of the authorised but unissued shares," the statement said. "Any such issuance will dilute the percentage ownership of shareholders and may dilute the book value
*sniff sniff* Smells like conspiracy to me... (Score:2, Interesting)
* - First, it becomes public that many of the top SCO execs are cashing in big stock options as they get pumped in the media as the thorn in Linux side. Several collect tens of millions of dollars from stock not worth a nickle prior to the IBM "lawsuit".
* - Next, we never actually see any of the "evidence" that is to be used in the case, just small portions of what is promised to be "major violations of IP" that they may -- or may not -- actually own. This issue gets set aside a
Why are rich companies so dumb? (Score:3, Insightful)
From the article:
"BayStar Capital looks to invest in growth-oriented firms with strong management, substantial market opportunity and solid, comprehensive business plans, and we believe that all of those fundamentals are in place for SCO to succeed," said Lawrence Goldfarb, General Partner, BayStar Capital. "SCO owns the most predominant UNIX software assets in the I.T. industry, has a 20 year history of providing trusted software solutions to end users around the globe, and an aggressive and seasoned management team focused on generating profitable growth."
Are you fscking kidding me? How does SCO continually manage to BS rich investment firms into believing it is more than just a frivolously-litigating, artificial-stock-inflating joke? Are investment firms really that dumb? Can I sue IBM and just get $50 million by pretending to be a player in industry?
-jag
Re:Why are rich companies so dumb? (Score:2)
Ummm.... yes.
Then again, this could be a wolf [microsoft.com] hiding behind a flock of sheep.
Can I sue IBM and just get $50 million by pretending to be a player in industry?
Ummm.... no.
Then again, we could just all take a chunk of SCO's new $50M check with a class action suit [slashdot.org].
Re:Why are rich companies so dumb? (Score:2)
Not just the predominant UNIX, but the MOST predominant!
Class action time (Score:3, Insightful)
After all, in this impromptu, roadside interview [groklaw.net], Darl @ SCO basically states that they have to protect their income (6:42 into the conversation) and their employees' livelihoods. Those of us who depend on Linux for a living should protect ours too.
As an independent IT pro, I can honestly say that my company's bottom line can definitely use an injection. SCO's unchecked, continuing spreading of FUD has seriously impacted the number of companies implementing Linux (thus lowering the number of potential customers).
Let's face it, SCO's practically using the court system as its marketing department. That "courtroom marketing" just got the company a nice, fat $50M check. I don't see how they can get away with this right under the SEC's (apparently not-so-watchful) eye. It's so ridiculously obvious that they pumped up their stock with false claims and dumped it successfully for a huge profit, and now they're getting ready for a second round of pumping. I wonder how much the SCO execs will rake in this time around. (watch SCOX tomorrow)
SCO: Give me a copy of your source code, the Linux source code, and the BSD source code and I'll tell you whether or not your claims hold merit. My bet is that after I publish my results, your precious UNIX products will have nice, big GPL and/or BSD licenses on them. Either that, or your UNIX products will fit on a 1.44MB floppy after I remove all of the code you stole from the BSD project(s).
It's great to see that your Bayside stakehorse just dumped another bankroll of chips in front of you. I'll see your UnixWare and raise you one Linux kernel. Now call, fold, or get the hell out of the game. Whatever you do, make it quick before everyone notices you're dealing from the bottom of the deck.
Hah! SCO... (Score:2)
After all, thier main competitor on the PC platform was MS was it not? With DOS and Windows operating systems being the main competition? Now it seems that they are fighting a battle on the side of their old competitor.
I'm really sick of the whole thing. It bores me.
Next issue please!
Daryl's buddy? (Score:2)
Bright side (Score:2)
Re:Bright side (Score:2)
Damn... groklaw.net is going to need a few mirrors if SCO keeps this crap up and dumps this $50M into its FUD machine.
This is great! (Score:2)
They evidently didn't learn a thing from the dot-com bust, which came from investors throwing gobs of money at tech companies with no hope of success. These guys are throwing gobs of money at SCO (probably because they owe the Canopy group a favor), so SCO will stay around a little longer, but still fail miserably. In the end, these people will have absolutely nothing to show for their $50 million. It'll be a good lesson to them. Natural selection in the business world.
steve
Microsoft connection? (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Good, (Score:2)
Look on the bright side (Score:2)
I can see why.. (Score:2)
To draw some paralell to the dotcom era; lots of companies getting over inflated IPO's and getting lots of cash through that avenue...These people and companies getting rich don't care whether or not SCO will be around for the long haul as long as they get back more than they invested. So, if you invested 50 million and through the stock market you get back 75 million then all the better. Of course they are really aiming for some so
Why did they do this? (Score:3, Insightful)
What it does highlight is the way the VC suits think, and what they actually know of technology. It shows that VC suits like companies with management that makes big bold and agressive statements. It shows that VC companies will spend money on words alone, because SCO's verbal tactics open them to charges of slander and libel, and even if they actually win part of the case (although I severly doubt it, IBM is going to kill them in court I think) there's still the RedHat and IBM countersuits to consider.
What this makes me think is that it's time to start skinning VC companies for money again. All you need is some arsewipe businessplan and some agressive statements and someone who's been in the business for a while and the VC loonies will throw $50 milloin at you.
Deep Pockets (Score:3, Interesting)
Rus
Ridiculous (Score:3, Informative)
read redherring article to understand (Score:4, Insightful)
1) BayStar loans Scox $50 million.
2) In return, scox owes baystar $50 million worth scox stock. NOTE: the 2.9 million shares is just an estimate based on scox's share price over the last 5 days. If scox share price falls to $8.50/share; then scox will owe baystar almost 6 million shares. Scox has about 13 million shares outstanding now - that means *huge* dilution.
3) baystar takes a huge short position in scox.
4) Since scox now has a cash position of $61 million, scox is now worth suing. Scox is already being sued by about six different companies, expect more to pile on.
5) Death spiral.
It's worth taking a quick look at the article.
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?f=articl
Re:What the hell! (Score:2)
Re:What the hell! (Score:2)
Re:What the hell! (Score:2)
-russ
Re:BayStar just threw away 50 Million dollars (Score:2)
People on
Re:BayStar just threw away 50 Million dollars (Score:4, Funny)
Yes, for arbitrary generous definitions of possible and values of merit less than epsilon.
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Re:BayStar just threw away 50 Million dollars (Score:2)
The second part of your statement is true. The first, I can't agree with. Quite obviously "pump and dump" is occuring, in that Darl's beating of the litigation war drum has caused an otherwise highly infeasible rise in SCO's stock and that executives at SCO including Darl are selling off their now valuable shares for hefty gains. The only thing left to decide is if there is a "scheme", meaning Darl
Re:BayStar just threw away 50 Million dollars (Score:3, Insightful)
SCO's lawsuit (not their obviously cracked copyright claims) rests on their claim that anything IBM developed for use with UNIX being owned by SCO and thus it's insertion in Linux being a contractual violation.
Do you really think IBM would sign a contract like this? One that would assign ownership of all of their technical advancements that have been used with their UNIX property of another company? Even if they did, do you think that with a
Re:BayStar just threw away 50 Million dollars (Score:2)
Slashdot announces 5 billion dollar lawsuit vs IBM (Score:2, Funny)
Commander Taco was reported as saying, "There's no basis for this suit, but that didn't stop SCO. Our case is just as strong."
In unrelated news: BayStar Capital is looking to invest $80 Million in Slashdot
Re:Any bets? (Score:3, Insightful)
Easy bet, too. It's not my money
Put another way - I'd trust SGI's assertions that SCO ain't got shit for a case more than I trust some VC firm's experts. Exhibit A: thousands of failed dot-com IPO's. Exhibit B: SGI's actual e
Re:I use to just hate M$... (Score:2)
Re:they follow what analyst said... (Score:4, Funny)
They misspelled bye
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Re:BayStar doesn't necessarily believe in SCO (Score:2)
Re:More pump & dump (Score:2)
-russ
Re:bingo- found it (Score:5, Interesting)
try this [baystarcapital.com]
if that doesn't work, go to google, type in "baystar capital microsoft" it is the PDF link that is for me third down the page.. once the PDF opens, search for microsoft. since october 2002, it looks like they've put 500 million into baystar deals.
Re:bingo- found it (Score:5, Insightful)