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10 Panel LCD Displays 139

Alien54 writes "As seen on the Website: 9X Media offers the most complete line of multiple monitor products in the world including: patent-pending X-Top expandable multi-monitor displays that support from 2 up to 30 flat panels, X-Wall Video Walls, Multi-Screen servers, workstation grade computers, multi-head video cards and Multi-screen management software. Design your own configurations. I am drooling over the ten panel desktop display."
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10 Panel LCD Displays

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    See store for details.
  • by Kandel ( 624601 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @08:22AM (#7193966) Journal
    Remember... Multiple Monitors Increases Productivity [slashdot.org]
    *looks at 10 panel display*
    WHOA!
    His productivity's way off the charts!
  • A complete circular one of these, completley surrounding me, it'd be like another world. How long is it till they bring out films that are filmed from all angles for complete immersion?
    • I bet you could make your own immersive movies.

      just get 5 or 6 miniDV camcorders, and modify a helmet so you can mount all of them to cover 360 degrees.

      But how would you edit the separate footages together so they play simultaneously?
      • You'd sync the timecodes from the various cameras, of course. Same way they do multi-camera shoots of real movies and the like.
      • ust get 5 or 6 miniDV camcorders, and modify a helmet so you can mount all of them to cover 360 degrees.

        But how would you edit the separate footages together so they play simultaneously?


        I actually saw a demo at Apple's WWDC this year where the guy did something like this. He used some kind of bridge software to combine traditional Quicktime with Quicktime VR, producing a movie that the viewer could swivel the point of view in. It was pretty neat -- his example was one of those extreme sport street luge
    • or dome theater at home. Maybe George Lucas alerady ordered one for his home. If not soon.
    • Re:I would love (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      They have this at Disneyland, I saw it in 1971. It was shown in the movie Soylent Green with Charleton Heston & Edward G. Robinson.
      • They also have (had?) it at the Canadian pavilion at Epcot Center. Mind you, it's only the "nature" type movies they show. The cameras were basically a circular cluster of cameras either hanging from a helicopter or on a tripod of some sort. Of course, in the latter case the crew either had to run off a long distance or duck beneath the camera so as not to get in the scene.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      A complete circular one of these, completley surrounding me, it'd be like another world.

      Or you could just get a girlfriend. They tend to immerse you in another world, if you get my drift.

      • Or you could just get a girlfriend. They tend to immerse you in another world, if you get my drift.
        I've already got one, if you get my drift.
      • Yeah, but this is cheaper, and updating is much less trouble.
        Also, you can have a couple/few of your buds over and you can all enjoy the view. You'll need a really open minded girlfriend for that. :-)
    • A complete circular one of these, completley surrounding me, it'd be like another world.

      The technology for "wraparound displays" has been in development for some time. I've certainly seen demonstration models (not personally, alas, but in print and on-line) for 40+" monitors that basically fit on a desk and wrapped around so a user positioned at the desk could look at all parts of the screen without distortion. I think it was in one of the megacorps' "office of the future" concept shows, though it would

    • Disney has done it already- The Circarama at Disneyland in 1955, and then rehashed as Circlevision in 1967.

      They closed it up around 2000. It's a shame too. I'll always remember the view from the deck of an aircraft carrier, in 360 degrees.
    • Put panels surrounding you and get DOOM running. First person shooter and see mutants coming up from behind you. Add Surround sound...
  • by rf0 ( 159958 )
    Now with a few TV tuner cards and some PC I can watch all of my favourite TV channels at once :)

    Rus
    • Now with a few TV tuner cards and some PC I can watch all of my favourite TV channels at once :)
      Or... with a few TVs and an antenne that lets you use multiple TVs you can watch all your favourite TV channels at once!
    • Or you could buy a 52" plasma, and a zandar which takes 16 inputs and puts them up on the screen.

      Better would be 12 inpputs into both the zandar and a matrix, and the output from the matrix to input #13 on the zandar. Then you can see 12 channels at once and have the thirteenth channel magnified in the middle at 4* size.
    • Interesting question: Do you also need ten sets of speakers (and ten sound cards) to be able to play the sound on all of these stations concurrently? Or, is the sound satisfactory mixing everything through a single sound card? If using a single sound card, can you easily adjust down the volume on MTV so that the baseball commentary and the Star Trek sound track are easily audible?
      • You'd probably need to write your own pre-mixer software, if you're going to use one sound card.

        I've never messed around with audio processing (or even v4l), so I have to say even that with a disclaimer.
    • "OK, I want channels 18, 24, 63, 109, 87 and the Weather Channel." -- Marty McFly Jr.
  • Off the website (Score:1, Redundant)

    by Sir Haxalot ( 693401 )
    The revolutionary new Matrox Parhelia-512 high-fidelity GPU delivers a new level of visual quality, excellent performance and a wide range of innovative technologies. Parhelia-512 is an 80 million transistor, 0.15, 2D, 3D and DVD/video GPU with a true 256-bit DDR memory interface providing over 20 gigabytes per second (GB/s) of raw memory bandwidth. This AGP device supports unified frame buffers up to 256MB in size and integrates two RAMDACs, a TV encoder and support for dual TMDS transmitters. Designed to
  • ...that CmdrTaco posted this story in the hope that the company might send him some product as a thank you?
  • Just how many complete pr0n/flight sim freaks are there out there with $155,799 to blow on these screens.
    • Its one of those "if the nerd hit the lottery" sort of things.

      Frugality is fun, but 10 displays, I think I need a bigger computer room!
    • True. I don't think I could honestly use a 10 screen setup. I'd have to turn around too often to use most of it, so I'd probably end up using 3 screens all the time, or maybe 3 with another 3 screens above them.
      • True, I think it is meant for very special applications only. I recently acquired two 18" LCD Screens wo work with and I'm feeling really comfortable with them. But I'm not sure if I would really find use for a third or even more ones. I don't think it's the same thing as with harddrives where you can't have enough storage space.
        • i use two monitors, crt's (i'm poor) a 19 and a 17, one for all the stuff that's running all the time, aim, emailbox etc.. and one for browsing or photoshop, or html work etc... i tried setting up a third monitor, but it seemed too much, possibly if could set up a 2x2 display with LCd panels, it'd work better but beyond that i think it'd be too much of your field of vision. you'd lose track of most things except your primary one or two monitors, which kinda defeats the purpose of having multiple monitors an
    • Nah, you buy a projector instead.

      134 inches diagonal of pr0n in your living room, I mean, MAN! It's a new experience :-)

      All this for just, like, $1k today. Plus some $100s for a good projection cloth.

      That way you're out much less than if you buy one of these screens. Plus, you have one hell of a movie rig (which serves as an excellent official excuse).

      (As for the flight sim freaks, I'm not really sure... but pr0n freaks probably outnumber them anyway...)
  • wow.. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Worminater ( 600129 )
    Anyone remember the flight sim one [chello.nl]?

    I think it just got owned...

    Gah now I want one... put it on my entire desk...
    /me drools
  • by Anonymous Coward
    The image processor handles only 1024 pixels vertical resolution. When you use the 20.1" version you get instead of 2x1200 pixels native only 1024 pixels visable. That will be an ugly screen. For pictures okay, but not for text displays. Stock brokers need a high resolution, and that are the people willing to pay for this kind of screens.

  • It supprises me that things still can be patent pending with the whole "let 'em patent it now, whether they deserved it or not is the courts decision" attitude.

    It just goes to show, even when all time consuming attention to detail is bypassed by sheer laziness that burocracy will always find a way to slow things down to their healthy speed.

    • It was my impression from the patents I filed that it takes 3-4 years even for "slam-dunk" patents.

      First off, there's this giant bureaucratic backlog of things filed and not even looked at, and then they always ask for 2-3 rounds of "clarification".

      So even in the best case scenario, the ideas behind most products will only be patented well after the initial product is obsolete.
  • ten twenty-four... hundred
  • I'm sorry, but there are a lot cooler ways to spend 200 grand then on a 10 LCD display.
  • Drooling over that?

    Yuk! Look at those ugly borders!

    This one [screentechnology.com] is much better. Unique in fact - they use lenses to craftily spread the pixels out, covering the panel edges..
  • Lets see... A fully decked out x9 system has about 94371840 pixels. How many rods and cones can there possibly be in a human eye? 10^14 neurons in the brain, brain is 3 dimensional and the size of my two fists, retina is 2dimensional and fits in the back of my eyeball.... I think we are going to start making monitors that add pixels to your eyes soon.
    • You don't see the entire movie screen at once, you focus on different parts of it, and only make out detail in a small area at a time.. you might be surprised how small. That's the center of your vision. Torwards the edges, and I don't mean just the very edges, you sense motion better, light and dark better, but not color.. and you lose detail as you go to the edge.

      Your brain creates a nice image in your head for you to work with... but it's really nothing like a tv screen, or a computer display.. it's no
    • 10^14 neurons in the brain, brain is 3 dimensional

      Actually most of those neurons are in the cerebral cortex, which is a flat sheet. It's the white matter (mostly nerve fibres providing interareal connections) which make it three-dimensional. Total area if you laid the cortex flat would be about two square feet. It is also a bit thicker than the retina. In any case, the point about having more pixels than the eye can resolve is lost if you are displaying a really big graphic and you lean close to focu

  • Considering that their most basic entry - a 2x15" system - costs $2399, I would have to say that they obviously don't plan to sell many of these...

    I can go on eBay and buy 15" LCD monitors for $200 a piece (or less) and that for another $200 I can get a custom aluminum monitor chassis built, these things are nothing but very overpriced toys...

    • i agree. if this was really innovative (patent pending and all), there shouldnt be any seams between monitors, or they should at least be very minimal. as it is, it looks like a panorama from a jail cell window.
    • I agree that this is way to expensive but you can't really acomplish the same effect from buying regular 15" monitors. From what I saw, the apple ones have very small frames around the actual screen. My lcd monitor's frame is a little bigger, i don't think it would look as good.
  • yeah these things look cool.. but comeon.. $10,700 for 3 wide 20' digitial? And look at the brightness and contrast ratings - all well below mid to higher end units available today. You can go buy 3 formac 20" platinums for 4k (or even cheaper with other brands), and they fit together quite closely (disclaimer: I have 2). In fact, there are other brands such as planar whos units are cased even better for edge to edge contact. And if you *really* need to stack them, I'm sure you can build a custom housin
  • So "LCD Display" is redundant.
  • Man, it'd be great to flip this bastard on end and play Mars Matrix or any arcade-perfect top down port! You'd have to stand a block away though.
  • Droool (Score:4, Funny)

    by FrostedWheat ( 172733 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @09:07AM (#7194089)
    I am drooling over the ten panel desktop display.

    You better be careful. Drooling over electrical equipment is bad for your health.
  • by cioxx ( 456323 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @09:10AM (#7194101) Homepage
    Just like the other site [go-l.com], which has been debunked. [plex.us]

    I could be wrong though. But the design and the feel of the whole site is totally unprofessional.
  • by Stiletto ( 12066 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @09:10AM (#7194103)

    YOU DECIDE!
  • Why a bezel? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by no_such_user ( 196771 ) <jd-slashdot-2007 ... Mdreamallday.com> on Sunday October 12, 2003 @09:17AM (#7194123)
    Why does there need to be a bezel between the LCD panels? Is it possible make LCDs where the glass from one panel will touch the glass from the next? Granted, at that point you're no longer talking about creating a system from off-the-shelf components, but if I'm about to spend $150k on a setup like this, I hope that price will include *some* cusomization.
  • Nice flat panels and all, but haven't macs been able to do this since, like, forever. Does nobody else remember Radius Pivot monitors. Full A3 resolution! Rotatable monitor that maintains orientation of the image. The MacOS supported multiple monitors for as long as I can remember (System 6?). I remember an early version of F-18 demoing at macworld with a 3 monitor setup, and I think we managed to trick out a 9500 with PCI video cards for a museum installation once.
    • Nice flat panels and all, but haven't macs been able to do this since, like, forever. Does nobody else remember Radius Pivot monitors.

      Windows, *nixes, and other OSes have also been able to do this for A LONG TIME NOW.

      This is not the point of the article.
  • ...to waste on 10 monitors, can someone please mod the other 8 redundant? ;)
  • You could buy a projector or large plasma screen for less money, and it would be roughly the same size. Or, as others suggested, make your own out of 17" LCD screens and a custom frame, would cost a lot less than the 150,000 theyre asking for their top end system.

    To run that thing would also put a lot of strain on your system, (large amount of memory to hold all screen resources etc) but I guess you would only use it if you felt you needed it, and then the tradeoff would be worth it.

    But yeah, just get a p
    • Yeah, I mean you could buy a Christie Roadie S12 (12,000 ANSI lumens, 1.9kW, 400:1 contrast ratio, 3-chip DMD, 1280x1024 resolution, up to 40' diagonal screen) for only $76,000. Of course, at 1.9kW, we lose the "power saving" aspects of LCD displays...
    • Yes, but what's the resolution on a good plasma or projection display??? You can take a 50' diagonal 640x480 display and it would be pretty usless with one desktop icon alone taking up like 5% of the screen.

      With a good plasma or projector you can get what??? 1368x768??? The whole point of multiple monitors is so you can make use of having a behemoth sitting on your desk...Not just so you can just have something that fills out your peripheral vision.
  • Surely this sort of stuff is more for managing multiple displays in airports and train stations than the business user?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I recommend the Ergotron [ergotron.com] Paraview stand system over the 9X Media setup. With Ergotron, you can buy your own inexpensive LCD's to make your multi-monitor setup the way you like it. I have been using the 33-095-200 with three Samsung [cnet.com] 191T, and really like it. This option is a few thousand less than the 9X setup and works just as well.
    • Damn, I wish I'd known they made this. I wouldn't have cheaped-out on the warehouse-club special LCDs, and gone for the Samsung instead. Like the article says, the size of the bezel really matters, and on the cheap LCDs with a 2.5" gap between them, it takes a little getting used to when a dialog box gets split in two across them.

      Chip H.
  • wasn't this already on /. months ago
  • by oren ( 78897 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @11:56AM (#7194711)
    If LCDs could be stacked side by side without any bezel, it should allow creating very large screen. It might also reduce costs of existing screens since I believe the cost of creating an LCD is worse than linear in its size.

    So - exactly why do LCD displays require a surrounding bezel? I'd expect that for for both strength and connections it should be possible to attach to the LCD from behind. Or at least reduce the width of the bezel to something much lower (say, 1mm).
    • Not really sure why not from a design stand point. I took my laptop apart a few months ago to check out compatability with some new components.

      One of the things I needed to check was the type of lcd screen used. Anyhow, at the outer edge of the lcd screen was just folded over metal.

      Unless there is some electrical interferance... which I doubt because the outer edge is just plastic.

      The big worry is you don't want to touch some things. You can get a nice jolt from those things.

      Anyhow, inside, they are fai
  • by indole ( 177514 )

    This looks strikingly similar to the Liebermann Inc [go-l.com] hoax [plex.us].

    Why the photoshop jobs? You'd think a company capable of making these devices might be a little interested in actually proving their existence.

    I.E., be wary which amateurish websites you make $10000+ credit card transactions with.

  • 10 screens...*getting faint*
  • by briancnorton ( 586947 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @12:39PM (#7194904) Homepage
    That's Really special and all, but there are only a couple dozen computers on the planet that could handle this.

    per screen resolution up to 3840 x 2400
    So 10 screens as they show is a resolution of 19,200 x 4800. That's 92 Megapixels. That's 117 times as many pixels as a 1024x768 display.

    All of a sudden your Geforce whatever is looking a little lame.
    It's still pretty cool.

  • Let's put things into perspective...

    Would you rather have a 10 panel LCD system or a brand new 2005 Ford GT40 [fordvehicles.com]?

    I've got a bucket of change I'm saving for the GT40. I'm going to buy a used one when they're one year old. Not sure how, but I am.
  • At my place of work we set up multi-monitor systems all the time. We make 12 monitor "video walls", and every one of our desktop systems have Matrox Millenium g450's with dual heads. It's really not that difficult.
  • Getting closer. All it needs is a nice computer chair suspended in a spherical surrounding display.

    How's that for a FPS? :)
  • This surely isn't breaking news. Multi-monitor displays have been in vogue on trading desks for nearly ten years.

    We used STB multi-monitor cards back in the mid 90s, but by the time they inexplicably dropped the line (and subsequently imploded), a few flat-panel vendors had started supporting multi-monitor displays from a single video card.

  • by TheNetAvenger ( 624455 ) on Sunday October 12, 2003 @02:40PM (#7195452)
    When you can pick up descent and cheap DLP 1024x768 Rear projection displays that can do 2000 ansi, why not just use a nice rear projector for your desktop wall.

    Additionally if you want more resolution or immersion, buy a few rear projectors and use a circling curtain screen (Can be made with sheets even)

    Not only would you have a seamless display, but it would be cheaper, and have a larger screen.

    Many of our techs have used rear projectors for large display projects - even tiling them for seamless displays.

    Also with the quality of even the low cost models (under $2000) you can make a quite impressive desktop for yourself. Especially when your eye stops being able to discern the pixels at certain distance - even if you are just using a 1024x768 projector for a flight sim or other immersion project.

    I would recommend trying rear projection technology, and if you want the display to come at you, use a screen like the 'floating displays that were on here a month ago' and make the rear projection devices into front projection.

    So instead of wasting $50,000 just pick up a couple of rear projection devices (LCD or DLP) and you can get a nice large display with a credible resolution.
  • I'm wondering about the pricing of these two ultra high resoultion monitor systems.

    10 x 20.8"
    Digital Color

    10 x 20.8"
    Digital Grayscale

    Both offered for $63,599. Anybody know why one would choose a grayscale screen over a color screen offered at the same price?
  • The "Aggregate Resolution" appears dodgy. Two rows of five 3840x2400 monitors should be 19200x4800, not 12800x1024. If I was paying a quarter million Australian dollars I'd like to think I'd know a little better what I'm actually getting.

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