Sysadmin Day. Yay. 320
Izeickl writes "The BBC is running an article about sysadmin day. One admin is quoted saying, 'We are unappreciated and no-one knows what we do for 364 days of the year.' Apparently even the online greeting cards are getting in on the action check out 123Greetings.com and put a smile on that cranky admins face! The starter of this day also has a page here." Well, most competent sysadmins probably have electronic greeting cards blocked at the router, but I suppose it's the thought that counts... Jeremy Sieminski submits a Mouse Pad Couch as the appropriate place for a sysadmin to rest his weary, uh, wrists. And of course if you've never read the BOFH stories, you're missing out.
Know one knows what we do for 364 days of the year (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Know one knows what we do for 364 days of the y (Score:2, Funny)
So unappreciated...
hmmpf! (Score:3, Funny)
You bastard!
a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2)
And I will shut down the servers unless you pay me the sum of... one meeellion dollars!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You gotta be kidding! This isn't 1999, that kind of money doesn't even exist anymore!
Re:a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2)
Who leaves one of their systems turned off for 9 months? It must not have been very important. If one of our developers leaves a system down for 9 months, we re-task it to someone who'll actually use it. And if that developer asks, "whatever happened to box foo?", I'd probably give him some bullshit excuse like "oh it had the Nimda virus, so we had to turn it off".
But then, I don't store my passwords in plaintext fields, so I guess I'm allowed to do things like that.
Re:a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2, Informative)
Pi
Re:a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2)
My mind boggled at the idea of leaving a server turned off for 9 months, especially when there are apparently people who want it to be on. Out of that boggle sprang my initial reply.
I feel very, very sorry for you. Clearly the company you work for has some serious issues.
Re:a good sysadmin is worth a million dollars... (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm really the only one who wanted to access it, because i'm the only one that groks linux over there. Netadmin claims to.. Our web server was linux at one point, and she claims the power going out while it was working destroyed it...
ooook... Your first and only linux box died during a power outage. You take my linux box and POWER IT OFF while it's working?
Again, she's an idiot.
Pi
Dear System Administrator: (Score:4, Funny)
Official SysAdmin Day Greeting (Score:5, Funny)
Sysadmin: "Thanks, server's down to you too!"
Re:Official SysAdmin Day Greeting (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Official SysAdmin Day Greeting (Score:2, Funny)
--Mark
Wow this is stupid. (Score:5, Insightful)
GO AWAY
Now that is some serious appreciation.
Re:Wow this is stupid. (Score:2, Interesting)
As a sysadmin, it seems that the only time anyone ever attempts to communicate with you is when something is broken, and needs to be fixed. It will be hard to get over that feeling of "something's broke" while people are talking to you all day, even if they're trying (in their own way) to be appreciative.
Re:Wow this is stupid. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Wow this is stupid. (Score:2)
Re:Wow this is stupid. (Score:2, Insightful)
True appreciation!! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wow this is stupid. (Score:2)
NOOOOO!!! Not my 3MB Dilbert Power-Points! Do you know what impact that will have on my productivity as sanitation engineer?!
Wow, you don't understand customer service (Score:5, Insightful)
The parent post has some good points but its tone reminds me of some unfortunate tendancy in the IT world: the beliefs that technical prowess does exempts you from offering good customer service, and that anyone who doesn't understand computers must be stupid. While I'd like to indulge the day and let venting occur - I have to deal with self righteous IT folks every day.
Regarding "Stupid questions": A huge ammount of time is wasted at my company because not enough people are asking stupid questions. They just keep doing stupid things. If you don't like to answer stupid questions, make sure that your company has a help desk (or person, depending on the scale) who's job it is answer stupid questions. Stupid questions are the oil in the corporate machine. I consider it my job to turn stupid questions into smart ones.
Arrogance: - keywords incompetence, etc: yes, a lot of people with valuable skills grew up without computers. I know a lot of IT people who think that because they understand discreet mathematics, they understand business rules better than the managers who work with them. We've lost a lot of money that way. More frequently than a lay person not understanding the network, is the problem that the guy coding business logic into the mainframes, didn't understand the point made by the non-technical manager.
If you have problems with misuse of resources on your network - you have to deal with the human element and work with trainers / managers. Where training fails, quotas. It's a simple management issue. Every job has them. Don't whine, solve it.
Sorry, geeks. You can't isolate yourself from the humans you work with. I actually consider it one of the pleasures of the job to work both with humans and their problems, and machines and theirs.
Note: I've worked on various sides of the system administration fence. I've been soley responsible for a small (50 device) network, and user in a large one. Currently an informal part of my job is to act as buffer/liason/interpreter between IT and business process. I appreciate my current sys-admin specifically because he makes his knowledge available, has a system to handle stupid questions, and recognizes that there are skills of value not learnt in the CS department. I think I'll give a basket of fresh fruit and a hug.
Re:Wow, you don't understand customer service (Score:2)
(sigh) Story is a dupe. (Score:4, Informative)
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/24/14272
Makes point D of this comment [slashdot.org] that I posted earlier all the more relevant.
Also, I recommend this link [virgin.net] for the BOFH stories. This has more than the "official" site. The BOFH stories are hilarious. Will take you a couple of days to read it all, but it is SO worth it!
Re:(sigh) Story is a dupe. (Score:3, Funny)
Dude, yellow on a dark red background? They should forget about putting lasers on jets and just send people that link if they need to blind someone...
What's your user name again? CmdrTaco? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What's your user name again? CmdrTaco? (Score:2)
Call it a flame, but..... (Score:2)
What's the point? The story earlier this week suggested that the "holiday" was created by a SysAdmin. If that's the case, I should just create "Quality Analyst Day."
I guess I can at least be thankful that SysAdmin Day isn't Hallmark-ized yet. Christmas in July sales are on right now, and I fear the day that they merge with an extended shopping season.
Re:Call it a flame, but..... (Score:3, Insightful)
So you're saying your job has paged you on a December 24th at 23:40 to work on a QoS report through the night, staying twice as long as you needed to cause none of your support services were available? *grin* Being On-Call means someone owns your body, and you dont get anything extra for it. But you do it anyways cause someone's gotta do it, and it doesnt look like anyone else is gotta, so it's all you, man... ..Yeah OK I dont know if I would want anyone at my company hugging me, but if someone said "hey thanks for you know, always being within 40 minutes of our data center no matter what" then I would go "hey, you know, you're welcome."
Appreciation? (Score:5, Funny)
If those are the things you want, J Crew Boy, you are in the *wrong* line of work.
The tradeoff of getting to do your thing with others that are like minded (or solo) in an enviornment that is very much your own and on one bothers you is that no one knows what you do (or cares..let's face it) until it's broken and they run at you like they are on fire in trade for a job where you get to do something you are good at, get paid for, and get to play with new toys all the time.
Appreciate me by not sending 100M email attachments to distribution lists. That'll do.
Re:Appreciation? (Score:2)
A good sysadmin (Score:3, Funny)
The 1 day out of the year they are noticed is the day something beyond their control breaks (hardware failure, etc).
Let them know... (Score:5, Funny)
Isn't it ironic (Score:5, Funny)
Now if you're a bad sysadmin, you're always fixing things up and braking other things at the same time so you're always doing overtime so eventually your boss hire people to help you, you become those people manager's so you let them fix all the stuff you broke and read slashdot all day in the mean time, but with a hiher pay and job security.
CRAP (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Isn't it ironic (Score:2)
Also, you should have learned by now that "looking busy" and "furrowed brows" are valuable job skills. :-)
--
Now that I'm not a sysadmin, all I can say is... (Score:2)
Aside from my home system and a friend's system, I'm no longer one for a whole network of ungrateful users. Or bosses. Hooray for that alone! And the friend is getting smart about running his own system. So yay again.
-- haaz, who doesn't miss being a sysadmin one bit.
Unappreciated? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Unappreciated? (Score:2, Insightful)
How many sysadmins do you know who aren't on some form of on call or pseudo-24x7 support? Even if things are running well at their company, you can bet that if the server blows up at 2 AM on a Saturday, they're going to get the call to come in and fix it before the place opens back up on Monday morning.
Do construction workers take training courses (or are expected to teach themselves) about a new hammer/screwdrive/whatever everytime one comes out? Of course not. Learn one hammer, you've pretty much learned all hammers. Now how well do you think a sysadmin would do if he learned _zero_ new knowledge for 1/2/4 years straight? Think about all the mainframers who had to throw out a good chunk of what they knew when they moved to UNIX/C, or microcomputers. The fact that my father (for example) knew the DEC PDP series of minis inside out did him _zero_ good whenever I turned him loose on a modern UNIX system.
Not to dis manual labor, but our society places a monetary premimum on professions that require a lot of study up front and/or near-constant re-training over the course of a career. Don't like it? Go to night school. Or crack a book.
/home is 98% full !!!!! (Score:3, Informative)
especially if
Re:/home is 98% full !!!!! (Score:2)
96%
Re:/home is 98% full !!!!! (Score:2)
For a good sys admin, its a chuckle, however long it takes to mount the tape and de-tar it, whereas the crappy ones are the ones who have to come into work on the weekend.
123 Greetings (Score:2)
Re:123 Greetings (Score:2)
Re:123 Greetings (Score:2)
Re:123 Greetings (Score:2)
Re:123 Greetings (Score:2)
1.1 - 1.0 = 0.1
Yours Truly,
dpk, a sysadmin who needs no appreciation
dont invite SPAM (Score:2)
- that is not visible in his browser
- and subscribing his email address to spam houses (how do you think the greetings site make money? they sell emails to their 'partners')
Sysadmin Day at Geekculture (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.geekculture.com/geekycomics/After
I get it (Score:3, Interesting)
Is it just me... (Score:2)
What a joke! (Score:3, Interesting)
Do you get a paycheck? That's why you get one.
Don't like your job? FIND ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU DO LIKE.
Honestly, very few people deserve their own "day" (like veterans that lost their lives at war, etc...), but sysadmins don't fall into this category.
Arg (Score:2)
What I've done for my work's system admins ... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What I've done for my work's system admins ... (Score:2)
Linux : Windows :: Manual : Automatic Transmission
Hardly.
Can you write a batch file that takes a directory, zips it up, encrypts it and attaches it to an email with the text being the changelog since the last email? The only thing it asks me for is the passphrase.
Can you write an at job that runs the win32 equivalent of xplanet to update the background of your desktop every 5 minutes?
Linux is not the manual transmission of the computing world. Having a powerful shell and goodies like DCOP and XML-RPC built-in from the ground are wonderful things. Nice try, though. :-)
Re:What I've done for my work's system admins ... (Score:2)
And yes, they all are the product of accellerated MCSE "boot camp" training.
I am sysadmin.. (Score:5, Funny)
I slay Cisco, RAID and PowerPoint enemies.
I retreat in darkness until called again.
You need not know my name, for I am legion...
The Sysadmin Song (Score:4, Funny)
http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/2625/262591
wes
Three Dead Trolls tribute (Score:2, Funny)
I get paid (Score:3, Funny)
"Being a sysadmin..." (Score:4, Insightful)
"Being a System Administrator is like being the phone company. Nobody ever calls up to say 'you know, this thing works great. Thanks!'"
Thanks, Gabe.
Thanks, Vadim.
Thanks, csoft.net guys.
Thanks, Jonathan.
Thanks, root.
Let's Celebrate! (Score:2)
Is it just me (Score:3, Funny)
Online Greeting Cards for Sysadmins? (Score:2)
Just imagine: you go to 123greetings.com, send a card to your sysadmin, and he starts getting even *more* spam!
BOFH stories (Score:2)
You're welcome. [slashdot.org]
Preen, preen...
Fowarding this to your boss, good idea? (Score:2)
Re:Fowarding this to your boss, good idea? (Score:2)
123Greetings == SPAMMER (Score:2)
Any lusr on one of my systems that did this would find his entire account sent to
Then I would get mean....
Re:123Greetings == SPAMMER (Score:2)
Re: Preach it, brother! (Score:2)
One simple rule that would make EVERYBODY happy:
Don't give out somebody's (email|phone/pager number|address) without their EXPRESS permission.
If you think George needs my email address, then YOU ask GEORGE for his address and (with George's permission) mail me, asking me to please send George my address. Same thing with phone numbers - get George's number & permission, then phone me!
Just think what would happen if people followed this simple rule:
1) Companies would no longer sell your email to spammers - instead, if Company A thought you might want to hear from Company B, they would send you a mail asking you to contact B if you wanted to.
2) No junk like 123Greetings.
3) No telemarketers.
Of course, this is little more than a specialization of the Golden Rule, and look how many people follow that....
My boss noticed... (Score:4, Funny)
Subject: System Admin appreciation day
Just a quick note to say how much I appreciate all the great
things you all do!!!
You make it a pleasure to work here and are extremely talented at what
you do!
My hats off to you!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
In fact, why don't you take tomorrow off!!
------
Remind me to shoot the guy who scheduled SysAdmin day on a Friday.
It's filky goodness! (Score:2)
All backups are done
Here but now they're gone
Servers don't fear the admin
Nor do the disks, CAT-5 or LAN... we can be like they are
Come on baby... don't fear the admin
Baby take my resume... don't fear the admin
We'll be able to work... don't fear the admin
Baby I'm your geek...
Linux is gone
Windows is on the run
Network geeks and sysadmins
Are so underappreciated... network geeks and sysadmins
40,000 men and women everyday... like network geeks and sysadmins
40,000 men and women everyday... recompiling kernels
Another 40,000 coming everyday, we can be like they are
Come on baby... don't fear the admin
Baby take my resume... don't fear the admin
We'll be able to work... don't fear the admin
Baby I'm your geek...
Love the Net as one
Sendmail is so fun [NOT!]
Came the last night of budget
And it was clear we couldn't work on
Then the door was open and the jobs appeared
The UPS blinked then disappeared
The GUI flickered and then appeared... saying don't be afraid
Come on geekoid... and she had no fear
And she ran to it... then they started to code
They looked backward and in passive mode... she had become like they are
She sent her resume... she had become like they are
Come on baby... don't fear the admin!
I got the Best gift possible for SysAdmin Day ... (Score:2)
Happy System Admin Day... (Score:2)
"Sorry kiddo, I hate giving good people bad news." the oracle, from The Matrix
Note to the humor impaired: This is not a joke.
123Greetings.com == SPAMMERS!! (Score:2)
'nuff said.
Vortran out
mousepad couch? (Score:2)
Somehow, this made me think of... (Score:2, Funny)
num of days. (Score:2)
s/364/365/
today has been no different for me.
why not? (Score:2)
What Day? (Score:2)
Travis
IT is but one of my many jobs..... (Score:2)
A song... (Score:2)
SysAdmin Song Part1: Screeching noises ring out in the NOC room night
SysAdmin Song Part1: Enter the executive from the upper hall.
SysAdmin Song Part1: He sees the server in a cloud of smoke,
SysAdmin Song Part1: Cries out, "My god, Sircam's got them all!"
SysAdmin Song Part1: Here comes the story of the SysAdmin,
SysAdmin Song Part1: The one who can't ever seem to win
SysAdmin Song Part1: No respect until the server's down
SysAdmin Song Part1: Put in a cubicle, but one time he could-a been
SysAdmin Song Part1: Anywhere else but this town.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Three servers lyin' there does the executive see
SysAdmin Song Part1: And an MCSE named Ballmer, movin' around mysteriously.
SysAdmin Song Part1: "I didn't do it," he says, and he throws up his hands
SysAdmin Song Part1: "I was only logging in, I hope your understand.
SysAdmin Song Part1: I saw them crashin'," he says, and deflects
SysAdmin Song Part1: "One of us had better call up the techs."
SysAdmin Song Part1: So the veep calls up the techs
SysAdmin Song Part1: And they arrive on the scene
SysAdmin Song Part1: With the LEDs flashin' in the cold NOC room night.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Meanwhile, far away in another part of the town
SysAdmin Song Part1: The SysAdmin's fixin' the executive's sound
SysAdmin Song Part1: Just so the veep can play his MP3's
SysAdmin Song Part1: He had no idea what kinda shit was about to go down
SysAdmin Song Part1: When the CEO pulls him over to the side of the room
SysAdmin Song Part1: Just like the time before and time before that.
SysAdmin Song Part1: At Innotech that's just the way things go.
SysAdmin Song Part1: If you're technical, you might as well not even try to eat
SysAdmin Song Part1: 'less you wanna draw the heat.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Mr. Ballmer had a partner and he had a rap for the Board.
SysAdmin Song Part1: Him and secretary Buxley were just lookin' around
SysAdmin Song Part1: He said, "I saw two techs runnin' out, they looked like RHCE's
SysAdmin Song Part1: They ducked into an office with a bunch of PCs."
SysAdmin Song Part1: And the executive just nodded his head.
SysAdmin Song Part1: Tech said, "Wait a minute, boys, this one's not dead"
SysAdmin Song Part1: So they took it from the Suits
SysAdmin Song Part1: And though the thing could hardly boot
SysAdmin Song Part1: The log files would identify the guilty man.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Four in the mornin' and they haul the Admin in.
SysAdmin Song Part1: Take him to the hardware lab and they bring him to see
SysAdmin Song Part1: The server spits up its coredump, its untarred.
SysAdmin Song Part1: Says, "CTL-ALT-DEL pressed, now logging to
SysAdmin Song Part1: Yes, here's the story of the SysAdmin,
SysAdmin Song Part1: The one who can't ever seem to win
SysAdmin Song Part1: No respect until the server's down
SysAdmin Song Part1: Put in a cubicle, but one time he could-a been
SysAdmin Song Part1: Anywhere else but this town.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Four months later, the accounts are renamed,
SysAdmin Song Part1: SysAdmin's fixing PCs, fighting for his raise
SysAdmin Song Part1: While Mr. Ballmer's still earning the praise
SysAdmin Song Part1: And the CTO's are putting the screws to him, lookin' for somebody to blame.
SysAdmin Song Part1: "Remember that crash that happened in Maiy?"
SysAdmin Song Part1: "Remember you said you saw a CCNA?"
SysAdmin Song Part1: "Think it might-a been that Admin that you saw
SysAdmin Song Part1: Workin' that day?" "Don't forget your option pay."
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: Executive Baller said, "I'm really not sure."
SysAdmin Song Part1: CTO's said, "A rich boy like you deserves a break
SysAdmin Song Part1: We got you for the insider trading and embezzlement scam
SysAdmin Song Part1: Now you don't wanna have to go to jail,
SysAdmin Song Part1: be a good man.
SysAdmin Song Part1: You'll be doing Innotech a favor.
SysAdmin Song Part1: That sonofabitch knows about the insider trading.
SysAdmin Song Part1: We want to put his ass in stir
SysAdmin Song Part1: We want to pin this triple server crash on him
SysAdmin Song Part1: He ain't no Kernighan
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1: SysAdmin could fix the server with just dd and touch
SysAdmin Song Part1: But he never did like to talk about it all that much.
SysAdmin Song Part1: It's my work, he'd say, and I do it for pay
SysAdmin Song Part1: And when it's over I'd just as soon go on my way
SysAdmin Song Part1: Back to my Linux box
SysAdmin Song Part1: Where the packet streams flow, with its top and nice
SysAdmin Song Part1: And play TucRacer all the day.
SysAdmin Song Part1: But then they put in charge of the Windows block
SysAdmin Song Part1: Where blue screens rule and virii run amok.
SysAdmin Song Part1:
SysAdmin Song Part1:
Apologies to Bob Dylan. The "Sysadmin" prefix is to get past the Lameness filter.
No (Score:2)
Yes, there can be the occasional developer that makes your life hell. Guess what? There's the occasional BOFH who does the same for developers. By large both groups are good people, but every profession has their share of assholes.
Yes, you work overtime. YOU KNEW THAT BEFORE YOU GOT INTO IT. And damn it, so does everyone else in IT: Developers, CTO's, QA. And speaking of QA, talk about people who get no respect for what they have to put into it. It's the nature of the beast.
You do your job. You do your best. You take pride in it. That should be enough.
My two cents,
-Bill
Happy laid off day, whoopeee! (Score:2)
I love working for Verio, they make my life complete.
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This sysadmin is getting the boot and it's not because we are losing money...it's THEM!
You realize... (Score:2)
God sysadmins are so pitiful. Yay for you, you have the root passwords. You can 0wn my workstation. You can play Quake at work. How nice. Luckily those of us who actually do the work contribute to the profitability of the company, rather than the overhead.
Oh, and take that sign on your door saying I can't talk to you directly and shove it up your ass. Call the help desk? Yeah, nothing I like better than explaining to those monkeys how to do their job.
Now admittedly, there are some very professional sysadmins out there who can save your ass. But most of the ones I work with are self-important jag-offs of dubious usefulness.
God that felt good, burning karma is almost as stress relieving as drinking.
What was your username again? (Score:2)
It's a good thing I thought this through... (Score:2)
-JDF
Re:No-one knows what we do... (Score:2)
Re:Is this my future? (Score:2, Insightful)
If you're noticed, it means the network is falling apart. Unfortunately, most sysadmins do indeed get noticed. You do the math.
Re:Is this my future? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Is this my future? (Score:2)
they got you cake AND nerf?? i just got laffed at.
Re:Is this my future? (Score:4, Funny)
Look, it's not too late to change majors and embark on the path to a respectful profession like being a corporate attorney for the MPAA or RIAA.
I do.. (Score:2)
Re:Isn't everyday (Score:2)
Perhaps we should make this a weekly thing, including getting a raise and a hardware upgrade.
Re:Isn't everyday (Score:2)
Most of you are overpaid anyways, it's not like you need some fabricated day for people to show false appreciation to you.
Re:I'M A UNIX SYSADMIN! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Yeah, how charming (Score:2)
Ah such a wonderful day when a 'prank' is twisted to mean sabotage.
Re:It's just a job! (Score:2)
That's not what I said.
Re:If you really appreciate your sysadmin (Score:4, Funny)
Great, so they can go home after struggling with microsoft products all day to struggling with microsoft products all evening
Re:yeah (Score:2)
Re:Screw them. (Score:2)
but i imagine you deserve it because you _are_ special.