The Ultimate S.U.V. 471
Max the Merciless writes: "Take one part KITT, one part 007, one part Unimog, throw in a whole lot of high technology and you get the MaxiMog, perhaps the ultimate SUV! The MaxiMog is a go anywhere, do anything 'expedition system'. The vehicle (and trailer) runs a total of 7 separate computers, a high speed network and a google of different communications devices. I enquired as to the operating systems, and apparently "real time and safety related systems control run under QNX, scheduling and communications management under Linux, and there are a few apps that run under OS9/OSX and WinNT (hate the NT stuff, but some of the communications software is yet to be ported to anything else)". However, my favourite feature is the "High Intensity Air horn system - two air horns producing 137dba at 15 feet in front of vehicle. Note -- Due to high sound pressure levels only for use off road when no personnel are nearby!"
Where is my 802.11b antenna? (Score:2)
who cares? (Score:2)
The question we're all asking... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The question we're all asking... (Score:3, Interesting)
Soon to be seen in a grocery-store parking lot... (Score:2, Flamebait)
The vehicle of course will never see anything rougher then the family's paved mini-mansion driveway where it will of course be painted to contrast nicely with the house and gardens and show up the pricy but effete Mercades-Benz SUV the Joneses across the street dared buy.
Weather report (Score:2)
Re:Weather report (Score:2)
Re:Soon to be seen in a grocery-store parking lot. (Score:2)
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2, Funny)
^^^
Mod parent up to "funny" plz
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2)
Get a minivan. I honestly believe that SUVs should require a separate license, and hefty registration fees. And automatic liability in any accident situation.
I'll take my Jeep, thanks. We have both, a Pontiac Transport and a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I drive the Jeep because I often drag around equipment that won't fit in a trunk and don't require the extreme size of the minivan with the seats out, and I also do a lot of northern Ontario driving in winter. And the odd time I have to do so with a couple other people. My wife transports 3 kids around and flips a couple seats up for groceries and stuff.
From your next post:
If you're specifically driving a vehicle that's designed to resist damage, and I'm driving one that's designed to write itself off, on impact, for safety reasons, then yes, you should have automatic liability. Oh, and all vehicles should come with cell phone jammers that are on when the car is running. :-)
So if you jump out in front of me at an intersection when I have the right of way, it's my fault just because I paid more for a vehicle that won't crumble? Blow me. Double that for the phone jammer comment. If you can't handle driving in decent weather with light traffic and talk on a cell phone, that is your problem, not mine. I happen to be able to control my vehicle when I'm distracted, and I also have the presence of mind to ignore/drop the cellphone when things happen.
Anyway (desperately trying to find the original thread), SUVs aren't just for offroad. Trucks and cars can only get you so far, and minivans definately have advantages in medium-size people movers. But SUVs are idea for people like me.
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2, Insightful)
Can we agree that it is not the actual activity but generally the person who is to blame?
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:3, Insightful)
Jaysyn
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2)
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:3, Insightful)
1. Its next to impossible to see around the average SUV, creating problems when someone is trying to maneaver around you, but you probably have never experienced this, so you wouldn't know.
2. You waist gas. Just because you have the money to pay for a lot of gas, doesn't mean we should suffer the environmental inpact of you consuming it. Agreed if you have several people in your car, the benifits of car pooling start to outweigh the problems, but you should try to rarly drive it by yourself, that is such a waist.
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2)
Its next to impossible to see around the average SUV, creating problems when someone is trying to maneaver around you, but you probably have never experienced this, so you wouldn't know.
So how do you deal with the 18-wheelers on the highways? Good lord, if you can't see, you don't manouvre. And you can almost always peek around any vehicle to see past it. Failing that, BACK OFF! Your visibility increases when you don't have your fiat's hood under my Jeep's ass-end.
Re:I resent the underlying sexism of your comment. (Score:2, Insightful)
1. When I get in the mid turn lane to turn left and some SUV comming in the other direction get in their turn lane way too close to me, and I can't see, and don't know if any cars are comming, but they just sit there, forever, sometimes expecting me to go first.
2. Parking, not to mention that fact that most SUV drivers don't know how to park them. Often it becomes very difficult to back out of the spot if there is are SUVs next to me, and I can't see what cars are comming around the SUV when I'm trying to back out of the spot.
I know there are a few other examples, but those 2 are the most frequent, and most 18-wheelers atleast know how to drive. I really don't have a problem with large vehicals for commerical purposes, but when people purchase large vehicles for no good reason, and don't know how to control them, and don't understand when people can't see around them. It really urks me.
Re:"Necessary" SUVs (Score:2)
How stable could this be? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:How stable could this be? (Score:2, Informative)
Think "center of gravity" (Score:2)
Note that this thing can supposedly "climb a 45 degree slope" - just don't turn sideways while doing it or your expedition will come to a rapid, messy end.
Re:How stable could this be? (Score:2)
FROM THE PICTURES, IT LOOKS TOP HEAVY.
While the vehicle has a high profile to provide adequate internal headroom (BTW - It's the same height as the original Unimog U90 chassis on which it was based.), the center of gravity is quite low due to the placement of heavy items such as the Engine, Generator, Batteries and Fuel Tanks. Additionally, the vehicle has front and rear antisway bars and an auto leveling air suspension system to assist in dynamic stability.
Truck not SUV (Score:5, Informative)
The MaxiMog(TM) is a Truck not an SUV and requires a driver's license for a heavy (over 12,500lbs) vehicle with air brakes.
So I doubt that we would see these being driven by soccer moms. Although it would be cool for a road trip.
Cool for road trip? NO. (Score:2)
The specs state this thing has a fairly standard 5.7 L Chevy under the hood. That's not much power for moving such a large amount of weight. Dual alternators and other accessories further drag this thing down. Plus, I speak from experience when I state that a 5.7 L chevy, old or new isn't the best for moving something heavy when you want to keep up with the 75MPH speed limit on a moderate hill.
This thing is good for off-road trips. Excess power under the hood in that situation wastes fuel, which is obviously a bad thing. With a highway monster, a good 454 suits me just fine.. and if I don't mind stopping to pick up $50 of gasoline every 2-300 miles or so, I can climb hills at about 75+ MPH.
Re:Cool for road trip? NO. (Score:2)
With a 5.7L Chevy, this thing is probably unstoppable right up to grades that flip it over, especially if the original tranny or gear ratios are still being used.
Re:Cool for road trip? NO. (Score:2)
I have an '82 K5 Blazer with a naturally aspirated 6.2L Diesel. I routinely get 22-25MPG (US). This is a 6000lb 4x4. It doesn't have the HP of a gasser, but the torque is right up there in the BB range.
A slightly newer 6.5TD would be a good choice, or alternatively, a new 6.6 Duramax.
Rebels (Score:4, Funny)
Has someone told Clive Cussler? (Score:2)
Oh dear, another road clogger (Score:3, Insightful)
Hold on while I masturbate furiously in anticipation ... :-(
Uh, probably not (Score:3, Troll)
I have a feeling this is mostly going to be used by people who actually need one.
Re:Uh, probably not (Score:2)
UNIMOG (Score:3, Troll)
Unimog info [unimogusa.com]
Re:UNIMOG (Score:2, Interesting)
They are UVs perhaps.
They are not exactly know for their extreme speed.
Is it just me, or ... (Score:5, Funny)
Open Source (Open Design) Short Bus (Score:5, Interesting)
A couple months ago some friends of mine and I bought an old super heavy duty school bus to deck out with gear. GPS, wireless lan, satelite transponders, audio gear, radar (marine radar), HUD, etc... basically anything ridiculously gratuitous that you see on the MAXIMOG vehicle. Our vehicle has 450 horses and weighs about 3.5 tons gutted. We got it from a podunk town that was using it as a fire and rescue support vehicle to haul rescue workers and equipment such as the jaws of life, chemical fire extenguishers, etc. It is a beastly machine.
Anyway for our vehicle systems, the design documents are to be public domain (with author copyrights of course) and support software will be GPL'd or BSD licensed. There are the beginnings of a project on sourceforge and photos. Basically the whole project is focused on building a totally insane techno machine from a bunch of junk on the cheap.
Check it out! [sourceforge.net]
Oh yeah, it's already named Richard, III.
Re:Open Source (Open Design) Short Bus (Score:2)
Re:Open Source (Open Design) Short Bus (Score:2)
Anyway for our vehicle systems, the design documents are to be public domain (with author copyrights of course) and support software will be GPL'd or BSD licensed.
*sigh*
If you create something, copyright is implicitly granted to you.
If you explicitly register it with a government, or mark it with a copyright notice, or both, the copyright is made more enforceable in courts, but the copyright already existed.
If you transfer or license copyright to another party, then they can copy or distribute it within the bounds of the agreement. It depends on the bounds of the agreement as to whether you, the creator, can continue to copy or distribute it.
Putting something in the Public Domain negates and relinquishes all copyrights. That's the point. The thing may then be copied and distributed and modified and incorporated in derivative works by anyone in the world, without attribution. The only thing that is still not possible ethically or morally is to try to assign or limit reproduction with a new copyright on any substantially unchanged version.
It is rare, but sometimes excessive licensed reproduction, to the point of cultural ubiquity, can negate all copyrights on a work and put it into the Public Domain. For example, NASA's photograph of Earth during Apollo 17 mission was once the most reproduced photo in the world, with hundreds of thousands or millions of licensed placements. Its ubiquity dilutes its controls.
If you consciously put your vehicle design documents into the Public Domain, then you can choose whether or not to include attribution of the authors. However, saying that Joe Blow wrote the plans is a far cry from claiming, asserting or enforcing a right to control copying.
Excessive? (Score:5, Funny)
I guess the 'James Bond' types will be easy to spot in the near future. He's the guy driving the huge ambulance with a jet boat on the back and spy plane on the roof.
It will be an obvious choice who to kill for the bad guys.
Re:Excessive? (Score:2)
Re:Excessive? (Score:2)
No jet boat, but drops oil, smoke-screens, pepper spray, teargas, electro-shocking door handles, bulletproof, and with some get up and go to boot.
DEJA SUV! Does this remind anyone... (Score:5, Interesting)
the OS (Score:2, Informative)
BB
SUVs are evil (Score:4, Interesting)
"I'm an environmental oxymoron - I buy organic and drive an SUV"
.02
cLive ;-)
Re:SUVs are evil (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:SUVs are evil (Score:2)
Go to the mall, however, and it's a different story.
motorcycles are worse (Score:2)
Let me help you out with that sticker. (Score:2)
90% of Stupid Urban Vehicle owners are office workers that will never see an unpaved road. They buy these moster machines because they have been taught to fear their neighbors. In reality, the world has them to fear as the stupid things are difficult to handle and much less stable than the simple 4 door sedan that would fill all of their automotive needs.
The flicker in my eye is a reflection of burning karma.
Didn't I see this in a movie? (Score:2, Funny)
Seems like a lot of really cool ideas from movies are being taken on as projects and being made into reality. This is making for some really fun new toys that we've always wished we could have. C'mon Hollywood, keep 'em coming!
But look what it doesn't have! (Score:3, Funny)
Creature Comforts
* 5.1. Self leveling leather upholstered air suspension seats with five way adjustments, lumbar air bags, heat, and on/off road modes)
* 5.2. Inertia reel seatbelts with off-road lock
* 5.3. Refrigerator/food warmer/coffee maker
* 5.4. Heated and cooled drink holders.
* 12 disc CD changer (connected to entertainment AM/FM/CD player)
* 5.6. Retractable (air powered) entry steps (one on each side), provide access step for front and rear doors.
from this page [maximog.com]
Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:5, Insightful)
The vehicle is not for sale, another one could be build if you have enough money. But i bet that there won't be alot of these things sold.. if people just look at the site they would have found out that this truck, bike, UAV, powerboat etc, was entirely build for EXPEDITIONS ! It isn't meant to be used as a recreational vehicle.
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2, Interesting)
a large petrol engine, a diesel is a must. Why?
A) It is more fuel efficient
B) They are more reliable
C) They have about 50% more torque for the same engine capacity
Also this vehicle doesn't appear to have a manual gearbox option. So basically its for posers.
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2)
I'd add D) They're much more useful when you're driving through deep water. Electrically ignited gas engines have to be very carefully sealed. Diesel engines only need to get air from somewhere. (Hence the "snorkel" on military trucks.)
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2)
Electrically ignited gas engines have to be very carefully sealed. Diesel engines only need to get air from somewhere. (Hence the "snorkel" on military trucks.)
Take a look at the specs. This thing is very carefully sealed *and* has a snorkel.
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2)
Great. Now you have to worry about maintaining and replacing dozens of gaskets and seals, on top of all the other high-tech gadgets. Why not just go with the simplest solution?
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2)
I sure hope not. I think it has to be just a showcase for all sorts of new technology. Because something that complex would be USELESS for truly rugged work. Can you imagine adding the job of maintaining dozens of computers on top of everything else while on a trek?
Why on earth would you want an ultra high-performance jet boat that you'd never have a prayer of repairing in the field? Why a huge BMW cruiser bike when a simple dirt bike or four-wheeler would be more flexible and have half as many parts to carry replacements for?
Heavy duty equipment for remote expeditions has to be VERY easy to maintain in the field. The last thing you'd ever want is a bunch of extra feature-crap that costs you the whole trip when it starts to fail.
I wish they'd make it more clear that it's just a concept vehicle, because as an actual work platform it's pointless.
We can read. (Score:2, Insightful)
SUV's in general (Jeep, Range Rover) were originally meant for expeditions and military use - not recreational or personal use. But they are now a menace to drivers everywhere. So... uh, what was your point again?
By publicizing yet another outsized vehicle, they are doing their part (even if it's only a small one) to accelerate the disturbing trend of using these wasteful and dangerous "cars" as family vehicles. Even if this vehicle isn't for sale, there's little doubt that it will stimilate a few Unimog sales at least. Publicity works.
Re:We can read. (Score:2)
I know SUV-bashing is very chic these days, but allow me to point out that there are families for whom this type of vehicle makes perfect sense. Mine, for example.
Show me another vehicle that will seat seven (with seat belts for everyone and no chilren in the front seat), has four-wheel drive and high ground clearance (we spend a lot of time in the mountains) and can pull a 7000 lb. camp trailer.
As for it's use as a family car, well, unless we wanted to own three vehicles, it must be a family car. I have a Saturn for commuting, and we use the small car whenever possible, but with a large family like mine no sedan is adequate; we'd have to buy a mini-van. The cost of buying, owning and maintaining a third vehicle would far exceed the cost of the extra fuel for the SUV. Alternatively, I could commute in the mini-van, but that would consume far more fuel than my little Saturn, and I rack up a *lot* more miles commuting than we do driving in non-mountainous places as a family.
I agree that there are plenty of people whose SUVs never get off the pavement, and those people are somewhat silly, IMO, but for a large number of active families, particularly in the mountainous regions, SUVs are a perfect family car.
Ford Van (Score:2, Insightful)
My parents have one, just a little higher than the normal econoline(sp?), extremely practical for a family living in/near the mountains, frequently taking the children and their friends on ski trips. A lot more storage space and leg/head room than any SUV.
And excursions are just plain scary. If you need that much room, get a van.
I propose (Score:3, Funny)
That we stop referring to these vehicles as SUVs. Only a small minority of the owners actually use then for off road sporting type functions or use them to haul lots of equipment that would classify them as being a utility vehicle. Face it, 80-90% of them are used for commuting, running down to the store to pick up a bag of groceries and the ever popular picking up kids at school. How about these choices:
If anyone can think of any more, I'd like to hear them....Looks like I need to change my sig again. Damn
Re:Reading is difficult isn't it? (Score:2)
Just the FAQ's (Score:4, Informative)
WHY WAS IT BUILT?
The MaxiMog(TM) vehicle and trailer was built because it's owner plans to drive around the world to remote and hard to get to places doing both photography and scientific exploration. Contrary to what many people believe, most of our planet is still relatively unexplored. After a year of research, he determined that a custom vehicle would have to be built to meet his requirements. The MaxiMog(TM) is the first pass at that solution and is a work in progress.
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WHY A VEHICLE, TRAILER AND MOTORBIKE?
To provide the most flexibly. The hybrid system allows the vehicle or motorbike to go off exploring while the trailer remains behind as a base camp. The MaxiMog(TM) vehicle alone can be used by itself for small expeditions that don't require sleeping, kitchen or toilet facilities.
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WHY IS IT CALLED AN EXPEDITION SYSTEM?
Because the various components including the vehicle, trailer, motorbike, underwater submersible (ROV), remote surveillance aircraft (UAV), Jet Boat, and modular electronics systems are designed to be easily interchangeable, and work together as a coordinated whole.
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WHAT WAS IT BASED ON?
The MaxiMog(TM) vehicle is based upon a highly modified Mercedes Benz Unimog U90 chassis. At this point about 30% is original. The MaxiMog(TM) trailer was designed and built from scratch.
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WHAT'S ITS DRIVING RANGE?
The vehicle has a design driving cruise range of about 1200 miles without refueling. Obviously this MPG rating is affected up or down based upon speed and terrain.
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HOW MUCH DOES IT WEIGH?
The vehicle weights approximately 16,500 pounds loaded, and the trailer weighs about 14,000 pounds.
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FROM THE PICTURES, IT LOOKS TOP HEAVY.
While the vehicle has a high profile to provide adequate internal headroom (BTW - It's the same height as the original Unimog U90 chassis on which it was based.), the center of gravity is quite low due to the placement of heavy items such as the Engine, Generator, Batteries and Fuel Tanks. Additionally, the vehicle has front and rear antisway bars and an auto leveling air suspension system to assist in dynamic stability.
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DON'T THOSE NERF BARS HURT GROUND CLEARANCE?
The Nerf Bars (side steps) are shown extended in the pictures on the site. When driving, they are pneumatically retracted.
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WHY SO MUCH CHROME!?
There is actually no chrome anywhere on the Maximog(TM). Everything you see that looks like chrome (including the 4 front bumper mounted 5 gallon water tanks) is solid 316 stainless steel alloy with a natural polished finish. Beyond corrosion resistance and appearance, the polished finish minimizes adhesion of snow, ice and mud.
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DOES THE TRAILER HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO THE MAXIMOG(TM) VEHICLE TO GET POWER AND COMMUNICATIONS?
While the trailer can be connected to the trailer for power, communications and data, it does not need to. It has it's own water cooled quiet 25KW generator which can supply power, air conditioning or heat, or hydraulic power to operate the wheel motors at low speeds (Both 4 wheel drive and steering) for campsite positioning or power assist for off road mobility.
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CAN IT STAY IN COMMUNICATION AND CONNECT TO THE INTERNET IN VERY REMOTE AREAS?
Yes. It has multiple long range communications systems for plain or secure message traffic in addition to short range VHF and UHF transceivers for short and medium range use. The principally long range (non-emergency) communications systems are Inmarsat-B/C/Mini-M, Globalstar LEO, and a HF/ALE (High Frequency/Automatic Link Establishment) transceiver for low bandwidth communications in areas where there is no satellite visibility. Asymmetrical data-only internet connectivity for wideband downloads can be accomplished via a tracking DSS satellite dish if within the satellite footprint. When wideband video Uplink capability is required an independent satellite system is carried on board the Vehicle or trailer.
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WHAT IF IT BREAKS DOWN?
The MaxiMog(TM) carries a significant compliment of spare parts and tools to effect field repairs. It is also designed so that critical systems have backups and automatic systems can be isolated and operated manually if needed. However in the event of a serious component failure such as a broken drive-line component, the approach is to take the BMW R1150GS bike and get help, or use the global communications system to get parts and tools driven or flown in.
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HOW GOOD IS IT FOR ROCK CRAWLING AND EXTREME OFF ROADING?
Simply stated, it's an expedition vehicle, not a recreational vehicle. While it is designed for severe off road conditions whenever encountered, this is a vehicle that is intended for long duration expeditions, not "seeing what it can do" by traversing technical trails created by off road enthusiasts. However, the Maximog(TM) chassis provides 20+" of suspension travel, 25" inches of ground clearance (worst case, under the differential housings), positive locking differentials, CTIS, variable ride height, adjustable shock absorber compliance, and air shifted transfer case for low range operation. This makes it quite capable in a broad variety of off road conditions.
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BUT WON'T IT GET STUCK OFF ROAD IF TOWING THE TRAILER?
The Maximog(TM) trailer is designed for the same off-road operation conditions as the Maximog(TM) vehicle. It has a ruggedized chassis, the same 25" ground clearance, and the same air suspension and adjustable shock which are coordinated in operation with the tow vehicle. Additionally, the trailer is a fully powered 4X4 using computer controlled hydraulic wheel motors so the combined MaxiMog(TM) + Trailer functions as an 8X8 with coordinated drive, suspension ride height and compliance, and CTIS operation. The front wheels are steered so the vehicle and trailer combined has the same turn radius as the vehicle alone.
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HOW DO YOU CHANGE A TIRE AND WHAT DO THEY WEIGH?
Fortunately, this size of heavy duty Michelin tire doesn't get a lot of punctures and if it's a slow leak the Central Tire Inflation System (CTIS) can often keep up with it. When you do need to change a tire, the vehicle has a tire lowering winch built into the swing away spare tire holder that easily lowers it to the ground or raises it into the storage position. Depending upon which tire size and tread pattern (highway, off-road or combination) is fitted, the weight is between 325 and 400 pounds each.
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WHY THE BIG TELESCOPIC MAST?
The mast has a variety of uses. It can elevate an electro optics package for long range observation and rangefinding (day or night). It is also used to mount communications antennas to increase point-to-point communications range. This is especially useful for flying the UAV (Unmanned Air Vehicle) at long range, and to increase the service area of portable communications devices like walkie talkies (using the onboard VHF and UHF repeaters). A chair can also be fitted to the mast to elevate a person for direct observation. The mast has a tilt-down facility which facilitates loading heavy items on top from ground level. It has a static payload capacity of 350 pounds.
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WHAT IF IT GETS STUCK?
It has 20,000lb capacity (continuous duty) front and rear hydraulic winches with 150' stainless steel cables. The winches are dual speed units and may be controlled locally from the drivers cab, or remotely via a safety interlocked radio remote control system. The vehicle also carries a variety of hydraulically powered accessory tools including an submersible chain saw, impact wrench, bolt/cable cutter, grinder, and multi-purpose push-pull jacks.
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IS IT LEGAL TO DRIVE IN THE USA?
Yes, once certified and licensed it is fully legal to drive on any road that is rated for it's weight (all major roads and highways) and height (10'6"). It meets California emissions standards and all applicable DOT/FMVSS/EPA regulations. The MaxiMog(TM) is a Truck not an SUV and requires a driver's license for a heavy (over 12,500lbs) vehicle with air brakes.
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HOW IS THE TRAILER CONSTRUCTED?
It is a composite panel structure using a sandwich of fiberglass reinforced plastic, thermal insulating foam, and electrical shielding to provide lightning protection. These custom panels are fabricated with internal metal tubes and fittings to provide reinforcement where needed. Unicat in Germany is expert at this construction technique which yields an excellent strength to weight ratio and superior thermal insulation for extreme heat or cold.
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HOW DOES THE TRAILER FOLD AND UNFOLD?
The trailer uses a new system which combines a lifting roof with two interchangeable side mounted Swingout® modules (patent pending). These modules are electrically operated with a microprocessor based motion control and safety system doing the motion control coordination. It takes approximately 5 minutes to complete its fold/unfold cycle (limited to this speed for safety). When in its folded state the trailer is fully protected (all glass covered) and the overall size as the MaxiMog(TM) vehicle. When it unfolds, there is approximately double the internal volume. There are seven steps to the fold/unfold process.
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DOES IT HAVE A TV AND AM/FM?
Yes to both with DSS satellite TV capability.
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DOES IT FLY?
Not intentionally...
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WHO DESIGNED IT?
The vehicle was designed by Bran Ferren of Applied Minds Inc in collaboration with Thomas Ritter of Unicat. He can be reached at bran@AppliedMinds.net.
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WHO BUILT IT?
Thomas Ritter at his company Unicat based in Hambrücken Germany was selected as the best and most experienced manufacturer to build the vehicle he designed, and the staff at Applied Minds in Glendale California did the technology systems design and integration.
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WHAT DOES IT COST AND CAN I BUY ONE?
Well, let's just say that it costs more than a Hummer and Less than a Boeing 777 -- and you can't buy this one. However, you can have one built just like it, or to your precise specifications by the same company, Unicat. For more information please contact Thomas Ritter
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MogCam (Score:2)
Use? (Score:2)
Re:Use? (Score:2)
-Legion
Engine from sportscar (Score:2)
Umm - and this is 'news'? (Score:2)
I saw this website months and months ago. Is Slashdot really 'news for nerds' or is it just 'links from people who didnt see this stuff ages ago'?
The vehicle itself seems to just be a promotional vehicle for www.unicat.net, a company that seem to make custom Unimogs. The various modules for the Maximog - plane, boat, time-machine, are as much vapourware as a 100:1 lossless compression program.
HACKED!@#$ (Score:2, Funny)
But for style you need this... (Score:2)
robots in disguise (Score:2)
Whatever it is its ugly as sin.
I want (Score:2)
And I want it to play both "Dixi" and "La Cucaracha"
Mogs (Score:2)
Needless to say I've done a fair amount of looking into these things, and have found a few things [carradine.net] out there [unimogmagazine.com] that may be of intrest [unimogusa.com] to someone who may want to know more [mercedes-benz.com] about these things. Sweet machines, they are.
Mercedes Jeep (Score:2)
I owned the Jeep for two years in the Mid-East. I spent many a day two-tracking though the desert. I slammed it into rocks. I drove it through sandpits. I even jumped it quite a distance. The skidplate underthe motor was like 1/4 inch thick. The only proble I ever had with it was the throttle cable coming off after jumping it about 15 feet. I'd love to own one again.
We lost little Timmy in the back.... (Score:2)
The Miabatsui Monstrosity... "Mine's Bigger".
;)
=tkk
Disclaimer... (Score:2)
Brings a tear to your eye... (Score:2, Interesting)
It's just freaking inspiring that someone with the resources to pull this thing off is going to get to go on adventures with it all over the world, which is obviously his life-long dream which, judging by the fact that he says the whole thing costs a bit less than a Boeing 777, is probably a well- deserved vacation from all the wealth-building he's been doing up until now to be able to afford not only the lifestyle of a free-roaming expeditionist, but a free-roaming expeditionist with the ultimate custom-built geek adventure vehicle of all freaking time.
It almost brings a tear to your eye...::sniff::
Interesting blip... (Score:3, Informative)
Ironically, after the Germans were allowed to establish a military force again they ordered Unimogs and rated them as "military vehicle class A" which means that it is "able to follow a heavy combat tank through heavy terrain with medium speed under all conditions". Created for civilian use it received its well-deserved military honors. Even the US army uses some of them. (Among many many others).
You can check out the vehicle history at the link below, along with some pictures. You can also take a look at the new U400 which looks way ugly in comparison to the older models. Maybe I just like them better because I have driven one of 'em for so many miles.
Unimog History [mercedes-benz.com]
Ironically for Mercedes-Benz, the sales are going very bad in the last years, that was part of the reason for the facelifted U400 but it is not the competition that's digging MB. Everyon who could possibly use one (military, agricultural, construction,
Re:Interesting blip... (Score:2)
Awesome wheelwork [unimogusa.com]
It's not tipping over... [unimogusa.com]
Pulling a 188,000 pound railcar (old model) [unimogusa.com]
Just in time (Score:2)
I suggest only a few modifications:
Oh, and if we there are no more buyers in Afgahnistan, no problem! Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, manhole-in-the-desert-stan, plenty of places that will appreciate the next level in guerrilla transportation.
Art? (Score:2)
well, that and the intent of exploring this "or similar" planets...
Astronomers use Unimogs, too! (Score:2, Informative)
During the snowy winter months, Unimogs are just about the only way for researchers and astronomers to access the Meyer-Womble Observatory [du.edu] atop Mount Evans, Colorado [du.edu]. 14,148 feet above sea level.
An image of the Halloween '99 DU Astronomy Unimog expedition is here [du.edu].
Re:Weird (Score:4, Funny)
Fault tolerance for the computers doesn't matter for the following reason:
If you look closely at the tires, you'll notice Firestone lettering. I think that computer-safety is of minimal concern.
Re:Weird (Score:2)
Re:Weird (Score:3)
Not to mention that it SCREAMS top-heavy: A versatile off-road vehicle (which about 0.001% of the population actually needs) needs to withstand high angles of approach both from the back and left to right, and I suspect this vehicle would be on its side quite quickly.
READ the FAQ (sigh) (Score:2)
You'll also find, when you read the FAQ, that this isn't an SUV for climbing hills and trails - it's for "exploring". It's supposed to be capable of some challenging offroad but it wasn't built for the "let's see what it can do" mentality. I also doubt it's meant to be driven very fast on the highway. It requires a trucker's license for vehicles equipped with "air brakes" so I don't think they were shooting for "sports car" handling. Hell, the tires weight as much as 400lbs depending on what set it's got loaded. This thing is a beast.
It's big, probably slow as heck, and not something I'd want to encounter in rush hour. Hell, if he hit the horn would I lose my hearing AND my window glass?!
You're using the word "fault tolerance" wrong (Score:2)
And as far as the computer systems on this machine, there is probably a lot of fault tolerance over all, most of the computers are not going to be mission critical in the sense that they need to be there for the car to work. Most cars these days already have multiple interconnected computers running the engine and breaking system, but this adds separate machines for things like communication, GPS, etc. And if those machines go down, well, who cares? Just reboot em while on the road (well, you might want to pull over if you don't have a passenger, but you get the idea). It simply doesn't matter if their up constantly. And it is possible to make computers that don't crash ever, and they seem to be going that rout (using QNX for more critical systems, along with the separate computers and networks that undoubtedly run the engine)
Re:Very few people need an SUV. (Score:2, Insightful)
I agree, most people don't need SUVs. Hell, most SUVs hardly ever have a drop of dirt on them. But this is slightly different.
Re:Very few people need an SUV. (Score:2, Informative)
They are alternative spellings of the same word, as this site [wsu.edu] says.
Dictionary.com [dictionary.com] lists 'enquire [dictionary.com]' as a 'Variant of inquire'.
Also, the Concise Oxford English Dictionary lists enquire and inquire as having the same meaning.
Re:Very few people need an SUV. (Score:3, Informative)
From my Oxford dictionary:
enquire v. to ask. enquiry n. Although these words are often used in exactly the same way as inquire, there is a tendency to use en- as a formal word for 'ask' and in- for an investigation.
inquire v. to make an inquiry. inquirer n.; inquiry n. an investigation, especially an official one.
See note under enquire.
Re:Very few people need an SUV. (Score:2)
enquire
v.
Variant of inquire.
[Middle English enquiren, from Old French enquerre, from Vulgar Latin *inquaerere]
Sorry grammar nazi. Keep readin' those textbooks. You'll get it one of these days.
Re:Very few people need cars (Score:3, Insightful)
america is just obsessed with going great distances to do pedantic things, like go shopping. this is somwhere between cause an effect as to the death of the corner drugstore. there's a tremendous essay here, there really is.
fFor now we'll just say: people will buy this thing, not because they need a monser truck to get to work, but because they want a cool toy. i predict these will sell very well in rural areas where people have lots of room to roll around the "backyard", and in the academic and celebrity circles of people who use machine-guns to go hunting - because they can.
this thing represents at once everything that makes america great, and everything that makes america a fFoul shithole.
No they won't... (Score:2)
It weighs like 20Klbs and can't be terribly "fast". What would the possible attraction be, even for folks like Arnold. This is a true expeditionary vehicle, I cannot imagine owning it myself as the maintenance alone would kill me. Water warmed fuel tanks?! Ouch this thing is built like a tank!
Re:MPG highway average: 9.5 (Score:3)
I own a late sixties muscle car that gets less than that. But the difference is, it gets out of the garage on rare occasions, delivers over 500 horses, gobs of torque and looks a whole lot better than this horror of a truck :)
Re:MPG highway average: 9.5 (Score:2)
Re:MPG highway average: 9.5 (Score:2)
As for the gene-pool, I promise you he's a smarter man than 90% of the people you know.
Jaysyn
Re:MPG highway average: 9.5 (Score:2)
Yeah, the BMW 530d [carkeys.co.uk] is a real pokey shitbox (50mpg extra-urban, 180bhp). European manufacturers are already close to and above (Audi A2 - 70-something mpg) those mileage figures.
I'd guess the Audi A2 (but probably not a BMW 5-series) cost less than the SUV.
Re:MPG highway average: 9.5 (Score:2)
s/prices/taxes/ (Score:2)
Re:Fuel is too cheap in the US (Score:2)
Jaysyn
Re:Ultimate? I'm thinking more along these lines.. (Score:4, Funny)
What is 25 tons, has tank tracks, armor plating and a vicious streak a mile wide? the ultimate SUV of course! [army.mod.uk]
Off road SUV use (it might scratch the paint) (Score:3, Funny)
i have a friend of a friend who "claims" to have seen one in an off-road situation.
You must be joking right?
The average SUV driver would be so scared of scratching the metallic paint on there all terain vercle, they will never dare take it off road!
Editing, People, Editing! (Score:2)
What started this thread? A googolplex is 10^googol, not google.
Geez.
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