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GPL 3 Launch Date Announced 223

Posted by ScuttleMonkey
from the full-speed-ahead dept.
Joe Blakesley writes "Today, the Free Software Foundation announced that version 3 of the GNU General Public License will be released on Friday, June 29 at noon (EDT). Live video footage of the GPL's unveiling by Richard M. Stallman will be available as a stream on the FSF's website."
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GPL 3 Launch Date Announced

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  • by onemorehour (162028) * on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:03PM (#19669025)
    GPL v3 + iPhone in one day = collective nerdgasm?
    • Finally there's something happening on my birthday =) June 29th needs more great events than "Canada House opening in London" or "Coal is discovered on Vancouver Island" or a building collapse. But I guess iPhone release or GPL3 isn't something you could tell your grandchildren. At least Ray Harryhausen and Bernard Herrmann were born on the same day - now I only need to meet someone who knows who they are ..
      • by Tokerat (150341)
        hey, it's my birthday too! I keep seeing this date everywhere....weird. Well, Happy Birthday!
        • Two people with birthdays on June 29 - thus proving Slashdot has 730 (and a half) users.
      • But I guess iPhone release or GPL3 isn't something you could tell your grandchildren.

        iPhone release? Probably not. GPL3? Quite possibly, though if you were around for GPL2, that would probably be better.

  • Who'll be watching? They'll all be queued up at the Apple store to buy into the hysteria.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by badboy_tw2002 (524611)
      Right, because otherwise the servers would be flooded by people clamouring to see the latest GPL! But stick with the Apple story, it will make people feel better :) (Its not our fault, people just like dumb ol' apple, that's all!)
      • Re:Timing (Score:5, Funny)

        by eln (21727) * on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:21PM (#19669217) Homepage
        I don't know about anyone else, but I plan to camp out all night in front of the FSF so I can be the first to get a copy of the final version of the GPLv3. Then I'm going to sell it on eBay.
        • by sepluv (641107)

          To quote TFA, "if you are in the Boston area you can also join us at the FSF offices from 11:30am. Please let us know at if you would like to attend.".

          So they won't let you in until 11:30 and you should contact them first so they can make sure not to let in capming crazies like you (or, on second thoughts, maybe you'd fit right in). Just don't tell them you are selling it on the website of evil software patenting nazis.

        • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward
          Ha, fuck you! I'm going to give it away for nothing.
        • I don't know about anyone else, but I plan to camp out all night in front of the FSF so I can be the first to get a copy of the final version of the GPLv3. Then I'm going to sell it on eBay.

          I'm already in line for that, and I'm going to redistribute it under the BSD license, MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
        • by ImaLamer (260199)
          I'll be orgasming on my iPhone when it's streaming Stallman's speech.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by fsmunoz (267297)
      "No retroactive effects on the MS deal. More lines than GPLv2. Lame."
      • Re:Timing (Score:5, Informative)

        by Bruce Perens (3872) * <bruce@perens.com> on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:46PM (#19669455) Homepage Journal
        ) "No retroactive effects on the MS deal.

        Actually, there are. Novell got let off easy in a way because FSF feels it's more important to use the Microsoft "coupons" to go after Microsoft's remaining patent rights with GPL3 (after doctrine of Laches, etc. has already cost MS most of those rights). But I don't think Microsoft would be very happy about Novell using GPL3 software because of that. How this plays out will be interesting.

        Bruce

        • by fsmunoz (267297)
          Damn, you had to spoil it for me. It's the only "No" thing I remembered.

          More seriously, I agree with your view, it will be interesting, and tactically it was well played.
          • Re:Timing (Score:5, Informative)

            by Bruce Perens (3872) * <bruce@perens.com> on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @07:11PM (#19669637) Homepage Journal
            And you should not be bothered by the more lines, either. Compare them to the more lines of "intellectual property" legislation like DMCA and the more lines of case law. GPL has to deal with all of that or it will progressively weaken. So what you are really seeing is FSF running as fast as it can to stay still in the context of new law.

            Bruce

            • by fsmunoz (267297)
              Bruce (sorry for the first-name basis, but I've been hearing about you for so many years now that it's hard to avoid it), it was an attempt at a joke (remember, the CmdrTaco comment about the iPod? "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame."). You're really preaching to the choir, look at my email. I would sign the GPLv3 in blood if I had to. Actually, *that* would be something worth streaming.
              • Trust me to miss any reference to pop culture. Not enough time in my life. Not even enough sleep, this time.
    • by Animats (122034)

      The line for the iPhone hasn't quite started here in Palo Alto yet. I saw three girls standing in front of the closed Apple store on University Avenue last night, and asked if they were in line for the iPhone launch. But no, they were just waiting for their ride.

      People are already lining up in New York, though, according to press reports. People will stand in line for stuff in New York. Here, they usually go elsewhere.

  • Does the FSF often do video streaming? Are there any video streaming methods/codecs/packages that are are sufficiently `free' for the FSF's tastes, and are installed already on enough systems that somebody might be able to view it?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Are there any video streaming methods/codecs/packages that are are sufficiently `free' for the FSF's tastes
      It's going to be a Windows Media file...
    • Re:Video streaming? (Score:5, Informative)

      by fsmunoz (267297) <fsmunoz.member@fsf@org> on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:13PM (#19669141) Homepage
      Yes, they use video streaming [fsf.org] sometimes. "Often" is to strong a word, but they have been doing it more as of late due to the GPLv3 process. To sum it up, it's Vorbis and Theora.
      • by sepluv (641107)
        I think you've missed the point. Those are just videos downloaded via HTTP (which, sure, you could, from the users' point of view, stream, although it mightn't be very reliable and isn't what HTTP is designed for). With this video, it will be live so they will have to use a specialist streaming protocol (e.g.: RTP) as the video won't be completed when you start downloading it.
        • by fsmunoz (267297)
          You're right. I didn't actually miss the point, just assumed that they were archived but that they were - some of them - streamed live (got that impression from "...You can listen to and watch online the proceedings of the 2nd International GPLv3 Conference, part of the Seventh International Free Software Forum..."). I'm curious now though, will investigate further.
        • by fsmunoz (267297)
          Right, so I've been searching and the FSF Europe has been using live streams more than the FSF. They reference "...the Free Software activists of the Politecnic University of Torino, though, who volunteered to use their Free Software video streaming software to stream the entire sessions live, and who will be offering recordings of the sessions online..." in all the places streaming is referenced.

          This seems to be a reference to Feng [polito.it], a "... multimedia streaming server compliant with the IETF's standards
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by jZnat (793348) *
          They could just use Icecast from Xiph (the same people who develop the standards for Ogg, Vorbis, Theora, FLAC, XSPF, etc.) I believe.
    • by sepluv (641107)
      I'm the submitter and TFA doesn't actually say video, just live streaming. I was embellishing as I kind of assumed it would be video as audio wouldn't really be very interesting—I guess RMS would have to read the GPL or something...or maybe he could sing it (for wide values of sing).

      I guess they'd use Theora over RTP (draft RFC) [xiph.org] although I'm not sure how well implemented that is (even in clients that support Ogg Theora).

  • I submitted this and am intrigued by why ScuttleMonkey has made one change to the story as submitted: moving the link to the announcement from the word "announce" to the date (which isn#t even the date of the announcement). Bizarre.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Hatta (162192)
      The W3 does not recommend hyperlinks on verb phrases [w3.org].
      • by sepluv (641107)
        The note you link to is for when the verb relates to the reader, their UA or the author. When the linked verb has the same semantics as a noun that describes the target, as in this case, that is different (and I'm sure I've seen the W3C doing that). It is the semantics not the part of speech which are important.

        Anyway, that still doesn't explain why he linked to the date which has nothing to do with the link.

      • by sepluv (641107)
        BTW, they are called the W3C. The W3 is the World Wide Web.

        Also, further to my previous post, looking at it again, I admit they do explicitly say no verb phrases. However, too quote from the start of the note you link to, a link should:

        1. provides some information when read out of context
        2. explains what the link offers
        3. doesn't talk about mechanics
        4. not be a verb phrase

        The first three are most important. Now I think the last one is a mistake and the rest of the document makes it clear that they haven't

      • What, and you think what is optimistically called a Slashdot "Editor," of all people, would know (let alone care) about W3 recommendations?! HA!

    • by Blakey Rat (99501)
      They did that to a submission of mine, also. I was linking to an article about a study, and they moved the link to make it look as if I was linking to the study itself. I can only assume the "editor" either didn't read my submission, or read it and didn't understand it. (Or, they just meddle and make random changes to justify getting paid for this.)
  • by ChrisMounce (1096567) on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:13PM (#19669129)
    I mean, it isn't a physical object. Print it out and frame it? Throw copies into the crowd? A reading by Stallman himself (followed by a license signing)?
    • by heinousjay (683506) on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:16PM (#19669167) Journal
      A reading by Stallman himself (followed by a license signing)?

      If you could somehow bottle that concept you would cure insomnia the world over.
    • by fsmunoz (267297)
      Print it out and frame it? Throw copies into the crowd? A reading by Stallman himself (followed by a license signing)?

      I'm not sure if you're kidding or not. I can see them all happening. Seriously. There is already a GPL for framming available at the FSF shop, several tunes with RMS reading from "Free Software, Free Society". Throwing copies I haven't seen, but an ordered line of people receiving a first copy (think "soup nazi") would be something I wouldn't be surprised.
      • Throwing copies I haven't seen, but an ordered line of people receiving a first copy (think "soup nazi") would be something I wouldn't be surprised.

        And, if you're the first person in line, you can copy it, and sell the copy to the guy behind you! Of course, you can't restrict that guy from selling copies of their own, either.
    • Just write it out, in its entirety, on a giant poster, or engrave it in its entirety on a large metal plaque. Use a large font and all-caps. Cover the engraved GPLv.3 with a cloth until the time of unveiling; then lift the veil, and there it is!
      Stallman should probably read it out as well.
      • by Fozzyuw (950608) on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @07:25PM (#19669727)

        ...then lift the veil, and there it is!

        At which time a large audible *gasp* from the crowd, and sweeping pan of the aforementioned veiled area shows that, in-fact, the GPL has been STOLEN! An audible laughter is heard over the loud speakers...

        In A.D. 2007, GPL3 was beginning.

        Stallman: What happen ?
        Mechanic: Somebody set up us the iPhone.
        Operator: We get signal.
        Stallman: What !
        Operator: Main screen turn on.
        Stallman: It's you !!
        JOBS: How are you gentlemen !!
        JOBS: All your publicity are belong to us.
        JOBS: You are on the way to destruction.
        Stallman: What you say !!
        JOBS: You have no chance to survive make your time.
        JOBS: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....
        Operator: Stallman !! *
        Stallman: Take off every 'Zig' !!
        Stallman: You know what you doing.
        Stallman: Move 'Zig'.
        Stallman: For great justice.

    • by Jose (15075)
      A reading by Stallman himself (followed by a license signing)?

      did you mean to say 'singing'?

      that would be cool!
    • Le Denounement (Score:3, Interesting)

      by matt me (850665)
      How can you unveil something that's been through a year of public drafting?
  • Richard Stallman and the Deadly Hallows!
    • Deathly Hallows, sir. It's Richard Stallman and the Deathly Hallows.

      No offense, but with his hair and beard, I've always thought of him as more of a Hagrid.
  • by javacowboy (222023) on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:34PM (#19669343)
    Excellent news!

    I'm curious about when Sun plans to GPL 3 Java, OpenSolaris, along with ZFS, DTrace, and hopefully NetBeans.

  • SP1 (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:36PM (#19669369)
    I'm going to wait for SP1 before I upgrade.
  • Tattoo (Score:5, Funny)

    by athloi (1075845) on Wednesday June 27, 2007 @06:48PM (#19669461) Homepage Journal
    Gotta update my tattoo, Which was the GPL-2, But from the looks of v3, Should be hours of agony!
  • The one where if you modify software that had a "web distribution function" (from my recollection, an optional function within web-based software that enables a remote user to obtain the source code), and then run the modified program on your website, you are required to disclose all changes even if you don't distribute the software?
  • Things necessary for the world to implode:

    Richard Stallman will start using Vista cause it looks kewl
    Apple will go back to PowerPC cause of all the people stealing MacOS (see: kext)
    George Bush will physically launch himself at the evildoers in a selfless act of courage
    Microsoft will sue everyone, everywhere, for everything. Its all MS property Bitches.

    Ok that last o

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