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An anonymous reader writes "A fleet of icebergs is heading north from Antarctica and at least one has reached New Zealand, an event that has not occurred in decades. While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!"
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Icebergs Sailing Past New Zealand

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  • by zxnos (813588) <zxnoss@gmail.com> on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:52AM (#16864626)
    i for one hope the iceberg doesnt get cocky and run into a titanic.
  • Old story (Score:3, Funny)

    by siriuskase (679431) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:54AM (#16864632) Homepage Journal
    I read about this years ago, a penguin wanted to travel north, so he used an iceberg as a boat. this is what happens when the cinemas run too many penguin movies.
  • by WidescreenFreak (830043) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:54AM (#16864634) Homepage Journal
    While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!

    Was that juxtaposition intentional? :) (Laugh, mods. It's a joke.)
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Tablizer (95088)
      While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!

      Behold, a new sport: Iceberg Racing!
           
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by zwerf (114259)
      Chill out man. I think it's cool that Slashdot is warming up to conservation, even if this incident is not a result of global warming. And yes, it is common knowledge that icebergs are cool.

      Anyway, don't put these stories on ice, Slashdot. I hope this is just the tip of the iceberg.
    • Also, I feel I should point that heading north away from Antarctica is pretty much an inevitable consequence of moving away from Antarctica at all.

      These 'bergs are hardly going to be moving south, east or west away from the Antarctic are they?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by jo42 (227475)
      While waving hands "This isn't the global warming you are looking for..."
  • Horseshit. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:55AM (#16864640)
    "...an event that has not occurred in decades."


    The same thing happened last year.
    • Re:Horseshit. (Score:5, Informative)

      by pudro (983817) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @05:11AM (#16866416)
      Mod parent up.

      I know no one read the article, so let me relate this to you from the article:

      "Scientists had said earlier that it was not unusual to see icebergs so far from the Antarctic coastal region"

      The whole point of the article is the danger this poses to ships in the area.
  • awesome! (Score:5, Funny)

    by ILuvRamen (1026668) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:55AM (#16864642)
    anyone else think this would be the best freakin idea for the next location of Survivor ever:
    Survivor: That Iceburg Floating Past New Zealand
    They could vote each other off as it gets smaller and smaller in warmer water :P
    • Re:awesome! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Loadmaster (720754) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:00AM (#16864684) Homepage
      I think that's a great idea. Put all the Survivor people on the iceberg, set it adrift, and then wait for it and everyone on it to disappear in the ocean never to be seen nor heard from again.

      Swi
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by NZBeeMan (690544)
      Why let them vote each other off? Just view the feed as it gets smaller ;)
    • by Himring (646324)
      My friend's dad lives on vaunajautu (sic?) where they held a survivor episode a year or so ago. He said between tapings, they stayed in hotels -- never slept outdoors, etc. A highly credentialed man too with no reason to make this stuff up....
  • by Salvance (1014001) * on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:55AM (#16864648) Homepage Journal
    Does this remind anyone else of the scene in Brewster's Millions where the guy sells Richard Pryor on a concept to intall a tugboat inside an iceburg and sail it to desert countries in Africa? Maybe nows the time to start looking into this ...

    I know, I'm completely off topic ... but this "news" story didn't really warrant much real discussion ... iceburg floats to New Zealand because of benign wind change, more news at 11
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:57AM (#16864664)
    New Zealand thinks they are so special... and they get in the news when they can see an iceberg from the kitchen window.

    We get that all the time in Nunavut [wikipedia.org] (canada's newest territory), and you don't see me posting to slashdot about it.
  • by springbox (853816) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @12:59AM (#16864678)
    Ha, that would be funny to see someone like president Bush speaking in New Zealand..

    "Global warming does not exist!"

    (Iceberg floats by in background)
    • From TFA:

      "Scientists had said earlier that it was not unusual to see icebergs so far from the Antarctic coastal region, where they had broken off the ice shelf - but that they were expected to melt as they drifted toward New Zealand."

      NOT UNUSUAL! No where in the article does it say scientists theorize that this was caused by Global Warming.
  • Global Warming (Score:3, Informative)

    by PresidentEnder (849024) <wyvernender@gmai ... m minus caffeine> on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:02AM (#16864710) Journal
    While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!

    The article doesn't mention global warming at all! I'll agree with the "very cool" part, but mentioning global warming seems unnecessary.

  • by rbrander (73222) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:02AM (#16864714) Homepage
    ...by a "necessarily". For future reference EVERYTHING is a consequence of global warming.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Did anyone else parse that as a grammatical error because of the placement of the hyperlink? I think something fun and insightful would come of a study on the different ways hyperlinks interact with their surrounding verbiage.

    • Were you confusing the "icebergs is" part as not being correct as a result of the underline causing you to subconsciously ignore the "A fleet of" part?
  • Opportunity (Score:5, Funny)

    by jomama717 (779243) <jomama717@gmail.com> on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:21AM (#16864836) Journal
    Have they spotted a Starbucks on any of them yet?
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by kfg (145172)
      No, but there's a Gap between them.

      KFG
    • by antic (29198)
      While in this article they're reported to be bigger than the size of a house, there was another news piece this morning about one nearing NZ that was 100m tall and another that was around 300m long - frickin' massive houses...
  • by Bifurcati (699683) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:23AM (#16864862) Homepage
    Unfortunaly, many sight see-ers received the cold shoulder from the icebergs, whose watery eyes and cold stare spoke of hidden depths.
  • you float past the iceberg
  • by Ralph Spoilsport (673134) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:33AM (#16864946) Journal
    While not necessarily a consequence of global warming, it is very cool!

    Yeah - approximately 0 degrees celsius, IIRC.

    RS

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Secrity (742221)
      The outside, melting part of an iceberg is 0C; the core is considerably colder, about -15C to -20C.
  • by zwerf (114259) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:34AM (#16864952) Journal
    After all, they were responsible for the death of Leonardo Di Caprio.
  • In fact... (Score:5, Funny)

    by aarku (151823) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:43AM (#16865006) Journal
    The icebergs are on a direct collision course with a ranch in Crawford, Texas. At last, Earth fights back!
  • Why would it? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nwbvt (768631) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @01:43AM (#16865012)

    Why would it have anything to do with global warming? Are people really under the impression that icebergs don't naturally exist and are really a product of the evil Bush administration's plan to cause global warming so they can drown the entire West coast?

    Its sort of sad when we have to clarify which stories might have to do with global warming and which don't...

    • by eebra82 (907996)
      Why would it have anything to do with global warming?

      Ice has a nasty habit of melting and breaking up when heated up. Note the word 'warming' in the phrase 'global warming'.

      Are people really under the impression that icebergs don't naturally exist [..]

      I'm sure most of us are aware that icebergs exist. Who are you talking to? Who's making such claims?

      a product of the evil Bush administration's plan to cause global warming so they can drown the entire West coast?

      Yes, anyone who has experienced
      • by nwbvt (768631)

        "Ice has a nasty habit of melting and breaking up when heated up. Note the word 'warming' in the phrase 'global warming'."

        Are you under the impression that temperatures all around the world stay constant unless global warming causes them to go up?

        "I'm sure most of us are aware that icebergs exist. Who are you talking to? Who's making such claims? "

        Perhaps I should have made my sarcasm more clear.

        "Yes, anyone who has experienced an alien anal probe believes in this. "

        Perhaps you should have made y

        • by eebra82 (907996)
          While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!

          It's pretty clear that the author does not imply that this would have anything to do with global warming.

          I know perfectly well that temperatures do not stay constant. It's fairly obvious that there are more factors than just global warming. My point is that it is possible global warming could have caused this and should not be ruled out. I for one am worried about global warming. I doubt that the air pollution caused by humans isn't
          • by nwbvt (768631)

            "It's pretty clear that the author does not imply that this would have anything to do with global warming. "

            Yes, I was mocking the need for that comment.

            "My point is that it is possible global warming could have caused this and should not be ruled out"

            So you are going to go through life assuming anything unusual having to do with weather was caused by global warming? Thats not a very scientific approach.

            "I know you were sarcastic, but you used it to insult those who are worried about global warmin

    • by saforrest (184929)
      Why would it have anything to do with global warming?

      Because global warming has already significantly altered ice distribution around the poles, leaving thousands of what was once ice to be open water?

      One could plausibly speculate that this iceberg's appearance is connected with climate change without being a ridiculous conspiracy theorist (and Bush doesn't even have to come into it).
      • by nwbvt (768631)
        You know what else alters ice distribution around the poles? The fact that it is summer in the southern hemisphere.
        • Re:Why would it? (Score:4, Informative)

          by saforrest (184929) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @05:31AM (#16866540) Homepage Journal
          You know what else alters ice distribution around the poles? The fact that it is summer in the southern hemisphere.

          Oh, for God's sake. It's a verifiable fact that significant amounts of Antarctic ice that have never been thawed in recorded human history are now gone. See for example this article [bbc.co.uk]:

          The Larsen A ice shelf, which measured 1,600 sq km, broke off in 1995. The 1,100 sq km Wilkins ice shelf fell off in 1998 and the 13,500 sq km Larsen B dropped away in 2002.

          Though if you seriously think every person complaining about global warming is too stupid to know when it's summer in the Southern Hemisphere, then I don't think it's worth expending much effort talking to you.

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by nwbvt (768631)

            "Oh, for God's sake. It's a verifiable fact that significant amounts of Antarctic ice that have never been thawed in recorded human history are now gone. See for example this article"

            Thats a small part of the Antarctic ice sheet. The East Antarctic sheet is actually growing [physorg.com].

            "Though if you seriously think every person complaining about global warming is too stupid to know when it's summer in the Southern Hemisphere, then I don't think it's worth expending much effort talking to you."

            No, not every per

            • by saforrest (184929)
              Thats a small part of the Antarctic ice sheet. The East Antarctic sheet is actually growing.

              You have not demonstrated any evidence that this part which is growing is substantially larger than the portions which have thawed. This is the general problem when comparing multiple qualitative reports of two counterbalancing phenonema, whether it be global weather patterns, or insurgents in Iraq.

              Of course, the same argument applies to my position, since we can draw no quantitative conclusions at all without the n
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by alphabetsoup (953829)

      Icebergs are natural, icebergs so far up north aren't. The chief reason why this indicates global warming is to sail this far up north, the sea surrounding the iceberg must have been cooler than usual. This can only happen if more and more ice is melting from the iceberg, which reduces the temperature of the ocean current, enabling the iceberg to move further north without melting.

      This may sound counterintuitive, global warming reducing ocean temperature, but it actually isn't. Global warming means incre

      • Re:Why would it? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by DerekLyons (302214) <[moc.liamg] [ta] [retawriaf]> on Thursday November 16, 2006 @05:21AM (#16866498) Homepage
        Icebergs are natural, icebergs so far up north aren't.

        Actually, if you read the TFA, or know anything about icebergs - you'll realize you are full of crap. Icebergs have been sited near NZ in the past - it's a rare occurence, but it does happen. A singular reccurence of something that has happened in the recent past and repeatedly across recorded history does not constitute proof (or disproof) of anything.
      • by nwbvt (768631)
        It happened decades ago, which means it isn't that rare at all. Yes, global warming could have many diverse effects on the climate around the world (in fact, one would be that the ice in Antartica would increase rather than decrease due to increased precipitation), but it still shouldn't be the default explanation for any weather-related phenomenon.
      • by E++99 (880734)

        Icebergs are natural, icebergs so far up north aren't. The chief reason why this indicates global warming is to sail this far up north, the sea surrounding the iceberg must have been cooler than usual. This can only happen if more and more ice is melting from the iceberg, which reduces the temperature of the ocean current, enabling the iceberg to move further north without melting.

        Wow, you should publish a paper on that! Or sell some of this special ice that doesn't melt because it melts so fast! Or read

    • by E++99 (880734)
      Are people really under the impression that icebergs don't naturally exist and are really a product of the evil Bush administration's plan to cause global warming so they can drown the entire West coast?

      Yep. Also, Bush made hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans because he found out that they had a large black population. (and he doesn't like black people, if you hadn't heard.)
  • All I could think about when I saw the picture was "claiming" the iceberg and creating te world's most exclusive floating bar... Of course the frozen daiquiris and iced vodka shots would contribute to its demise.
  • Finally some corroboration of our Global Cooling campaign.
    http://www.fcpp.org/main/publication_detail.php?Pu bID=864 [fcpp.org]

    Drs. Tim Ball and David Suzuki.
  • I, for one, welcome our new iceberg overlords.
  • These days you get any freaky weather event, and it gets blamed on global warming. Even when it doesn't make sense.

    Surely, more ice making it further north would, if anything, be supporting evidence for datasets that show the oceans are getting cooler [agu.org]? You might also note that some data sets suggest that the global warming trend is not present [blogspot.com] in the Southern Hemisphere.

    There is some evidence that the icecaps melting around the edges, but getting thicker in the middle [co2science.org]. Perhaps that's because the Sun' [agu.org]

  • "Scientists had said earlier that it was not unusual to see icebergs so far from the Antarctic coastal region, where they had broken off the ice shelf - but that they were expected to melt as they drifted toward New Zealand."

    See, they're not melting as fast as expected. Fear the coming ice age!

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